Mary Mary at the BET Awards

HMMMM.... IS SOMEONE TRYING TO START ANOTHER FIGHT????
wow we are such Christians in here...
this is pitiful... let the women make their living... for 5 mins. everyone was singing "Its the God in Me"
Instead of "Blame it on the alcohol..."
Be happy that they did something positive instead of sitting around on long hair care forums and complaining all day...
who did you "minister to" today???
not me...
:lachen: leaving...
:wave: Bye :yep:
 
Ugh I'm back...
I just wish someone would commend these ladies for being musicians and spreading the word... They showed us all that you can be an artist and stikk have a ministry at the same time... Crossing over is a powerful way to reach unbelievers... I have heard many singing that song. That is awesome and I believe that our Savior is proud of them, yet we 3e picking them apart and judging... That's why I am cranky. I admit it, it makes me cranky, especially being someone who is an artist and who understands the power of music that reflects society
 
Ugh I'm back...
I just wish someone would commend these ladies for being musicians and spreading the word... They showed us all that you can be an artist and stikk have a ministry at the same time... Crossing over is a powerful way to reach unbelievers... I have heard many singing that song. That is awesome and I believe that our Savior is proud of them, yet we 3e picking them apart and judging... That's why I am cranky. I admit it, it makes me cranky, especially being someone who is an artist and who understands the power of music that reflects society

That's your opinion, which is fine. However, songs like "God in Me" may be why some people don't take Christianity seriously because they feel like it's really just one step from the world anyway. Not everyone is the same, and that doesn't mean they are picking Mary Mary apart. When some people come to Christianity, they are really looking for a difference from what is out there.

Honestly, Mary Mary didn't show me any of the sort mentioned in your post. I've known many Christian artists, who are clearly artists with a ministry. Jesus didn't need to cross over. He just lived the truth and that brought people to Him.
 
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Jesus did cross over... he hung out with all the lepers, prostitutes, everyone... Honestly we don't even know what Jesus was doing... we were not there... we really werent
"one step away from the world" is such a sweeping comment. you specifically may not have been touched by their song, but many people that aren't Christians love their music and it may be their only connection to Christ...
People should be coming to Christianity because they love Jesus... not because of a criticism they have on society... I wonder how Jesus feels about that... "Hey God I'm coming to you now, not cuz I love you but because everyone else sucks..."
That makes no sense...
People don't take Christianity because of the hypocritical judging ways of most of the people that practice it. If we were to support people instead of "calling them out" and if we showed everyone what Christ's love was really about, then people wouldnt care about what believers are doing every day. Our acts are magnified when we start pointing fingers, and thats what people need to understand.
 
Jesus did cross over... he hung out with all the lepers, prostitutes, everyone... Honestly we don't even know what Jesus was doing... we were not there... we really werent
"one step away from the world" is such a sweeping comment. you specifically may not have been touched by their song, but many people that aren't Christians love their music and it may be their only connection to Christ...
People should be coming to Christianity because they love Jesus... not because of a criticism they have on society... I wonder how Jesus feels about that... "Hey God I'm coming to you now, not cuz I love you but because everyone else sucks..."
That makes no sense...
People don't take Christianity because of the hypocritical judging ways of most of the people that practice it. If we were to support people instead of "calling them out" and if we showed everyone what Christ's love was really about, then people wouldnt care about what believers are doing every day. Our acts are magnified when we start pointing fingers, and thats what people need to understand.

So how do you feel about Mary Mary having secular artists, who promote fornication, drugs, sex, violence etc., on their albums and concerts? I'm just curious of your viewpoint. Thanks God Bless
 
Jesus did cross over... he hung out with all the lepers, prostitutes, everyone... Honestly we don't even know what Jesus was doing... we were not there... we really werent
"one step away from the world" is such a sweeping comment. you specifically may not have been touched by their song, but many people that aren't Christians love their music and it may be their only connection to Christ...
People should be coming to Christianity because they love Jesus... not because of a criticism they have on society... I wonder how Jesus feels about that... "Hey God I'm coming to you now, not cuz I love you but because everyone else sucks..."
That makes no sense...
People don't take Christianity because of the hypocritical judging ways of most of the people that practice it. If we were to support people instead of "calling them out" and if we showed everyone what Christ's love was really about, then people wouldnt care about what believers are doing every day. Our acts are magnified when we start pointing fingers, and thats what people need to understand.

No, I'm talking about people who are non-Christians who don't take Christianity seriously. Some don't see the point of being Christian because they don't see enough of a difference between where they are in the world and where some Christians are. And they truly want a difference, which something that all of us as Christians should be mindful of...

It's not all about "hypocritical judging ways." No one is judging Mary Mary as individuals but are looking at their music and dress etc. Further, "whom the Lord loveth, He chasteneth" Heb. 12:6. It is precisely because God loves us, that He shows us where we are wrong. It is because of His love and mercy that He lays down standards for us. That's why God's law is called the LAW OF LOVE. Discussing issues such as these are fine as long as it is done with a kind and loving heart. One doesn't have to perfect to do so.

Lastly, Jesus did not cross over by loving everyone. When He hung out with all kinds of people, He was always different from the world. And we know what He was doing because His life is recorded in the Holy Scriptures.
 
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I like classic gospel music (Shirley Ceasar), but I also like some the modernized gospel music groups (such as Mary Mary). Some people will like it, some people won't. It reaches a younger audience and I think this is what is most important. If it grieves your spirit, then please, by all means don't listen to it. However, I have a very good relationship with Christ, and my spirit isn't grieved by this song. As such, I will continue to enjoy it. I listen to the content of the song ( although the music composition doesn't hurt either). Bad content is what makes bad music.

I will say is this: I can't remember thinking much about the group member that was wearing the skirt (don't really remember it--just that it was a skirt). However, I immediately thought that the one in black shiny tights looked like she was headed out to the club.

You can be fashionable without oozing sexy. If she had thrown on a cute tunic (or any other long stylish top), it would have been just as fashionable. I wear tights and tunics myself. That outfit was sending the message that you can be Christian and still be EXACTLY like the world. Christians are supposed to be a "strange" people.

My issue is that fact that she dressed that way singing a song that was meant to glorify God. I'm not judging her, however, there is no way I would have felt comfortable singing about the "God In Me" whilst sauntering around stage in skin tight pants (that weren't at all flattering btw). I believe these ladies are Christians, however the clothing choices were a mistake. I've certainly messed up before:yep:, so I am not throwing stones.
 
Hi dicapr!

I am trying to understand your post. Are you defending banners position as a follower of Christ?


No. I'm saying he is grabbing for straws because he doesn't agree with something. Calling someone a devil worshiper or taking away their christianity requires more than conjecture and pulling stuff out of thin air!
 
No, I'm talking about people who are non-Christians who don't take Christianity seriously. Some don't see the point of being Christian because they don't see enough of a difference between where they are in the world and where some Christians are. And they truly want a difference, which something that all of us as Christians should be mindful of...

It's not all about "hypocritical judging ways." No one is judging Mary Mary as individuals but are looking at their music and dress etc. Further, "whom the Lord loveth, He chasteneth" Heb. 12:6. It is precisely because God loves us, that He shows us where we are wrong. It is because of His love and mercy that He lays down standards for us. That's why God's law is called the LAW OF LOVE. Discussing issues such as these are fine as long as it is done with a kind and loving heart. One doesn't have to perfect to do so.

Lastly, Jesus did not cross over by loving everyone. When He hung out with all kinds of people, He was always different from the world. And we know what He was doing because His life is recorded in the Holy Scriptures.

Everything you said makes sense... However...
This doesn't add to the previous arguement... With everything you said I still believe these ladies are being obedient to their calling...
 
But my dear don't you realize you are guilty of the same thing? You are judging the ladies on here for having an opinion and sharing that opinion. This is a public forum and the least we can all do is respect everyone's opinion whether we agree or not and keep it pleasant :yep:

God bless and have a wonderful day ladies!

Nobdy said I don't respect their opinion... I love their opinion... This gives me something to do...
Its just that in my opinion, their opinion is wrong LOL
And I am expressing that opinion on the public forum that I paid for as well lol.
I will say that my tone may be a bit aggressive for an all womans forum... But that's what happens when you chill with your boyfriend all day lol
 
So how do you feel about Mary Mary having secular artists, who promote fornication, drugs, sex, violence etc., on their albums and concerts? I'm just curious of your viewpoint. Thanks God Bless

If the artist's contribution is tasteful and contributes to the word then what is the issue? Why not give those other artists the chance to say something positive... Who knows how that might change that persons life? My boyfriend says that God always finds his way into everything... How awesome is that! To know that God can take someone from talkin about pimpin hooes in one song to singin about Jesus in another? He will use whoever He chooses to send his message... That's how awesome he is! Moses was a murderer... Look what God used Him to do!
One of everyones favorite gospel songs was written by a Muslim man... God even used him,because I have seen what that song does to people... I can't say which one cuz ill get in trouble... But God always finds a way to do what needs to be done
 
I will say that my tone may be a bit aggressive for an all womans forum... But that's what happens when you chill with your boyfriend all day lol

In all honesty your tone was extremely aggressive but I got you now. I really do want to know the ends and outs of what you speak of in the music industry.

I only feel I can judge for myself because I was so engaged in secular music. Mary Mary's "The God in Me" brings me back full circle to somewhere I don't want to return to.

Now school me..........please! :yep:
 
In all honesty your tone was extremely aggressive but I got you now. I really do want to know the ends and outs of what you speak of in the music industry.

I only feel I can judge for myself because I was so engaged in secular music. Mary Mary's "The God in Me" brings me back full circle to somewhere I don't want to return to.

Now school me..........please! :yep:

I made a new thread for tha
 
I was somewhat embarassed or more so shocked of their appearance but that's my opinion. I think Queen Latifah was dressed more modest or at least decent.
I know that this topic can get really touchy but their performance was... I don't know the word... maybe it didn't match the title of their song "God in Me." Again, my personal (and many others that I talked to about it) feelings.
 
Everything you said makes sense... However...
This doesn't add to the previous arguement... With everything you said I still believe these ladies are being obedient to their calling...

It relates to the previous discussion because people are going to see things differently. Mary Mary may sincerely believe that they are being obedient. God alone knows their intentions. However, I believe that we still have to use the Word as the standard by which we understand these issues and others. Some may or may not feel like this song and others are in accord with the Word, and that is OK. And disagreement is not automatically an attack on Mary Mary, but may very well be a concern for Christianity on a whole and the message we are sending to the world.
 
WHOA! Let's keep the truth the truth. Jesus never did cross over- He carried the cross and died on the cross, but there was no crossing over for Him. He was the Word made flesh, the Truth, and the Life-
He did not hang out with these individuals in that sense but went to heal, deliver, save, and set them free. Jesus was on a mission not mere association.
People should be coming to Jesus through Christianity. We were not called to become a part of a religion but to a real relationship with Christ.
Blessings to you-


Jesus did cross over... he hung out with all the lepers, prostitutes, everyone... Honestly we don't even know what Jesus was doing... we were not there... we really werent
"one step away from the world" is such a sweeping comment. you specifically may not have been touched by their song, but many people that aren't Christians love their music and it may be their only connection to Christ...
People should be coming to Christianity because they love Jesus... not because of a criticism they have on society... I wonder how Jesus feels about that... "Hey God I'm coming to you now, not cuz I love you but because everyone else sucks..."
That makes no sense...
People don't take Christianity because of the hypocritical judging ways of most of the people that practice it. If we were to support people instead of "calling them out" and if we showed everyone what Christ's love was really about, then people wouldnt care about what believers are doing every day. Our acts are magnified when we start pointing fingers, and thats what people need to understand.
 
It is important that we don't try to defend things because we feed into that particular system or are associated with it. There is a wide road that leads to destruction and a narrow road that leads to truth; few find the latter.
We should not be so concerned with standing in defence for Christian artists more than Christ and the cross. These individuals will have to answer to God for themselves one day just like all of us. They are just doing their jobs and getting paid to do it. That's what entertainers do...entertain. Many may be won through their message which is great but lets remember the focus and who we sing about.
Blessings and Peace-
 
http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/continuous-worship/idolatry

Speaking to pastors and church leaders. Spoke about something interesting in the first 1/3 about subscribing a moral value to a style of worship/music. It had me really thinking over a lot of things.

It goes on about many other things as well. All about Worship..the sermon.

He said have you ever come out of a service and said wow that was bad worship or that was good worship?

Who are we worshipping? God. So isn't HE the one to decide what is good and bad worship.

Talk about convinction hitting me...because I've said wow that worship was bad....ummm.

He said I'm sure someone who loves Jesus wants to worship and honor God could worship to Techno..in a phonebooth..lol ...but I couldn't. I just couldn't..I'm a white guy I have no rhythm...I just couldn't..It's not my preference.

He talked pretty crazy about charasmatics and the opposite of that, but still talked about folk prescrbing a moral value to certain music or style of worship.

Very interesting...very challenging.
 
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It is important that we don't try to defend things because we feed into that particular system or are associated with it. There is a wide road that leads to destruction and a narrow road that leads to truth; few find the latter.
We should not be so concerned with standing in defence for Christian artists more than Christ and the cross. These individuals will have to answer to God for themselves one day just like all of us. They are just doing their jobs and getting paid to do it. That's what entertainers do...entertain. Many may be won through their message which is great but lets remember the focus and who we sing about.
Blessings and Peace-
I'm so glad you are back on the forum....:yep:
 
I know one thing....if the song claims gospel...I should know its a gospel song...

..and it should not take me to the chorus to figure it out, lol
 
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