This has confirmed a lot of what many of us has already said. if it wasn't so long I would post it all in here.
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The group called Mary Mary took the "gospel" stage by storm with their debut album "Thankful" in 2000. Currently Mary Mary has produced a CD called ‘The Sound’, and after reviewing it and being chilled to my spiritual core, I can honestly say that it is one of the most theologically challenged and imbalanced CD’s that I’ve heard in recent times that proports to be gospel.
The problem is that Mary Mary (sisters Tina ‘I can’t see you singin’ outside the church’ Atkins-Campbell & Erica Atkins-Campbell) have decided, with the help of Erica’s husband, Warryn ‘Baby Dub’ Campbell, to introduce a style of music targeted particularly to youth and the hip-hop generation. Their music is popular in both secular and gospel music circles. Secular folk have long played Mary Mary songs at parties, clubs, skating rinks and all. The music is set to BUMP and PUMP the ride right along side of its secular competitors.
To show their mixture with the world, on this new CD, a rift on the song ‘Get Up’ is simply a take off of the late Michael Jackson’s "Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough". Borrowing from the world is not uncommon in the modern gospel music circles. It was their last CD entitled "Mary Mary" which presented the song "Want Ads" with reworked lyrics retitling it as "Heaven". Although there is no acknowledgement of borrowing on this CD, it’s obvious with a quick listen that you’ve heard this somewhere before. What is confusing is that every now and then you’ll find a melodically worshipful song such as "I Worship You" (also "Yesterday" off of their previous CD).
The group has obtained 1 Platinum (over 1 million copies sold) and 2 Gold albums (over 500,000 units sold). They are the winner of 6 Stellar Awards, 1 NAACP Image Award, 2 MOBO Awards, 2 Lady Of Soul Awards, 2 Grammy Awards, 7 Dove Awards, and 1 American Music Award. Their crossover appeal is orchestrated by it’s producer Warryn ‘Baby Dub’ Campbell.
This is ‘Baby Dub’s’ mission:
"Right now I know God has placed a calling on my life, through my music to touch people. Right now I'm not a preacher but I realize there's a message, especially when doing Gospel. There's a certain standard that He's set. Right now my ministry is to make hits. That's my ministry! To make as many hits as possible, so that in the future people will respect me that when I'm ready to put my own record company together, I'll have people's respect to let me do what I do."
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But to my surprise, not only did I find him on a gospel CD, but I also found the SAME concept and disdain for God, women and the church within his rap on Mary Mary’s "gospel song" Superfriend. Here are a few of the lyrics:
Mary Mary ~ Superfriend
A superfriend, a superfriend
Yes sir, I got me one of them
A superfriend, a superfriend
I got me a superfriend
Stop there for a minute. Is this honoriffic of God or somebody you know around the way? "I got me one of them" Obviously this CAN’T be a song about the Lord. How can you "get you one of them?" Who is this Superfriend??? Maybe David will reveal the nature of that Superfriend to us. Here we go:
David Banner’s Superfreind rap:
Lord, I'm so weak and scared to run
What have I done to deserve a life like this?
The devil's scared to fight us in the light
He hides in the midst of religion
But I know that my God is listening there for me
There's a greater mission
OK, let me interrupt for a minute. The devil hides in the midst of religion? But God is listening to him because he has a "greater mission"???
What mission could Mr. Banner have? We know that Baby Dub’s mission is to "make hits" so he can be respected…What is David Banner’s mission??? Let’s look further:
You're no girl, you're no man, but a plan for greater peace
I'll fight for the light until my flesh falls deceased
I'm fighting the devil, fighting police
And in the church, Lord I'm looked at as Satan
'Cause in my music I curse
Now, David affirms "unisexuality" by declaring a unigender as simply a "plan for greater peace".
This is a secret encouragement for the homosexual agenda and same sex union. Yep! Right in the middle of a gospel song.
Before you criticize me for seeing it, and speaking about it, tell me what you think he means…I wanna hear that. Don’t give me that he was indicating that there is neither male nor female in Christ…remember this song only sparingly mentions Christ and certainly doesn’t mention scripture in almost any sense.
Further, David admits his fight with the devil (white man) and the police (authority) and acknowledges that "his mission" currently encourages him to be as profane as possible. In fact the church doesn’t really understand him.
Next verse:
But I'm trying to do better and that's the thing that really hurts
All this sex and the drugs in my life mean nothing
When my superfriend hugs me at night tears come rushing
There's no kryptonite, no dealing no lie that could be told
OK, here we go once again…"all the sex and drugs" in his life (in a GOSPEL SONG) mean nothing. It doesn’t??? Sex and drugs means nothing according to David Banner.
This is a new gospel according to David Banner perpetuated through the music to this generation. This is a total and absolute shift from biblical morality to secular morality and norms.
To affirm his position, he simply is comforted by his "Superfriend" that hugs him at night until he cries…What in the world is this??? As long as we have this "Superfriend" that affirms us we need not worry about changing anything. Just continue in sin??? What about 1 Cor. 6?
Let’s finish this:
That can separate the power that you have over my soul
So stunting is a habit when I'm gripping this mic
Ya'll thinking I'm a pimp but I'm trying to be like Christ
In real life, yeah
OK, here we have confusion over who David is trying to be like. He tells us that we think he’s a pimp because of his profession, what he says and what he displays to the audience.
The reality is (in his world) that he is simply TRYING TO BE LIKE CHRIST??? So if we are confused, we can simply be confused because we can’t identify the difference between David ‘Pimp’ Banner and Jesus Christ???
As we should be able to see…the SUPERFRIEND of Mary Mary is not and has nothing to do with Christ. Christ is a deliverer FROM sin not INTO sin.
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Do clubs really play Christian/ Gospel/ Inspirational Music nowadays?
I remember people saying Kanye's "Jesus Walks" was a club banger but I really can't imagine it .
I have a friend who works ata strip club and she says they Play Kirk Franklin all the way to Michael Jackson's 'Thriller'. As long as the beat is good no one cares about thr lyrics. That's why sometimes Gospel songs shouldn't be so beat catchy, because then the song is taken the wrong way.
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Aside from rappers songs, Mary Mary also render another song called ‘Dirt’. This song tries to contrast trials and tribulations with "dirt" in a garden as an essential part of the growth of the believer. The problem is that we should ask, is "dirt" as described by Mary Mary in this song, a parallel to daily life’s trials or is it descriptive of unchecked sin in the life of the believer?
The Saint should ask, is what we go through in daily living "dirt"? Mary Mary answers the question by further explaining that the "dirt" they are referencing is personal failure and not mere daily trials. In other words the "Dirt" is SIN. Here it is:
"Dirt" ~ Mary Mary
Ooh sometimes you may sing for yourself
You struggle hard just to prevail
It’s the lesson you need to learn
It’s the way you’ve got to earn
Champions never accept defeat
They fall and get back on their feet
‘Cause they know (they know)
Just like I know (I know)
That if you want to grow we…
We all need a little bit
(I) need a little bit
Need a little bit of dirt to grow
OK, We "fall down" but that’s OK because we all NEED to fall INTO SIN in order to grow. WOW!Back to the scripture:
Hezekiah’s Solution
Hezekiah prayed 2 Kings 19:14-19 and placed himself and the nation on the complete mercy of God. Without the use of one soldier or any loss of an Israelite life, God turned the captivity around and gave Hezekiah and Judah the victory.
How Did This Happen?
Hezekiah did something miraculous before these trials began. 1- He maintained his heart before God as one who was sincere in doing right even when he made bad judgements and 2- he fortified the water system of Jerusalem. (2 Chron. 32:1) You see, it was because there was a free flow of water that Jerusalem was able to thrive while they were shut up. This water system did not exist in Lachish and Libnah which had fallen and been taken and 3- he listened to the promise of God, when God said he would send a "blast" (Is. 19:6-7)(a ruwach) and turn the enemy away and kill him in his own land.
Suddenly, after receiving the promise of God, over night (2 Kings 19:35-37), God kills 185,000 Assyrian soldiers. Naturalistic speculation is that this was due to either a plague of flesh eating rats or some mysterious deadly illness that invaded the camp. This could have been a reflection of Israel’s Exodus from Egypt when the death angel exacted judgement according to the direction of God. The result was that Sennacherib after receiving the word that his army was trached and had suffered defeat without even engaging in combat, left Libnah and after a silent 22 year absence from the area, died in his capital city of Nineveh, at the hands of 2 of his sons, while worshipping his false god.
What Was The Message?
There are plenty of natural reasons to give up, but none of those reasons are valid. In fact because God is God we have every reason to believe that HE will provide for us as we render sincere service to him.
- The threat of the enemy against the Lord’s church is actually against the God himself.
- Compromise and rendering to the devil what belongs to god is not according to the scripture, God’s word or HIS ultimate plan for us.
- What is dedicated to the Lord is to remain dedicated to the Lord no matter the culture or the desire to do otherwise.
So far as music is concerned, too many of our artists feel that they cannot and won't be successful unless they give tribute to the enemy, with little or no regard to who they actually belong to. We should be aware that God’s people don’t have to give the enemy anything and especially that which belongs to God. The praise of the saints belongs to God so much so until he inhabits it. This is the type of Glory that the devil has desired to steal from the beginning, and it is in the church’s power to deny and refuse the enemy what he desires.
Should the venue called the "gospel music industry" exist for any of this to take place at all??? Coming up in our next post.
Blessed!
Posted by District Supt. Harvey Burnett at 3:06 PM
Labels: David Banner, gespel music industry, Hip Hop, Mary Mary, rap music, Warryn Campbell
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I interpret the lyrics completley different. Homosexuality-really?!! Sometimes when you are looking for something you find it. Like the line about sex and drugs-I take it to mean that that is not the mission in this life and is nothing in the long run. The pimp line I take to mean that just because you see what I do on the outside you have no idea about the struggle I have on the inside. I could go on and on.
James 4:4
You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
Music is universal and a gift from God.
But when someone can't tell whether a song is about God or a lover, there's been some compromise. And what we compromise, we will lose. Thankfully, not all Christian artists are ambiguous..
I hear you! I hear you!.
Exactly, why do we have to sing in-between songs? A gospel artist should be preaching the good news, that Jesus is risen, alive and coming back again. Any form of dilution will get muddled responses at best.
I am not sure that these songs will minister to a stark unbeliever, maybe to a believer that already has an inclination that this is tagged "gospel music".
When you listen to some artists, nobody needs to tell you its preaching Jesus and who he is.
This is really hard for me to deal with because I'm a Christian, and while I don't like the lyrics or tune of "God in Me," I know all the words to the very similar "Blame It." That's a conflict of interest on my part. I understand that we should hold ministers of music to high standards, but we musn't forget that we all struggle with maintaining an accurate representation of our faith. All Christians should strive to be different in this world because God has said that he has set us apart as a "peculiar people," and I don't think Mary Mary is being peculiar by featuring Common (a 5%-er, who sees himself as God), Amber Rose and Kanye West in their video for this song. At the same time, we should not forget to look at ourselves and strive to be seen as Christians in our own walks. If I have a problem with Mary Mary's closeness to the world, then I need to assess my own musical tastes. If I don't like what they wore to the BET awards (which I didn't), then I need to make sure that my wardrobe reflects my devotion to Christ as well. It's so easy to talk about the speck in another's eye (not to say that Mary Mary shouldn't be more careful about how close they get to the world; they are in the ministry), but we shouldn't forget that we can see things a lot more clearly once we remove the planks in our own.
This is really hard for me to deal with because I'm a Christian, and while I don't like the lyrics or tune of "God in Me," I know all the words to the very similar "Blame It." That's a conflict of interest on my part. I understand that we should hold ministers of music to high standards, but we musn't forget that we all struggle with maintaining an accurate representation of our faith. All Christians should strive to be different in this world because God has said that he has set us apart as a "peculiar people," and I don't think Mary Mary is being peculiar by featuring Common (a 5%-er, who sees himself as God), Amber Rose and Kanye West in their video for this song. At the same time, we should not forget to look at ourselves and strive to be seen as Christians in our own walks. If I have a problem with Mary Mary's closeness to the world, then I need to assess my own musical tastes. If I don't like what they wore to the BET awards (which I didn't), then I need to make sure that my wardrobe reflects my devotion to Christ as well. It's so easy to talk about the speck in another's eye (not to say that Mary Mary shouldn't be more careful about how close they get to the world; they are in the ministry), but we shouldn't forget that we can see things a lot more clearly once we remove the planks in our own.
This is really hard for me to deal with because I'm a Christian, and while I don't like the lyrics or tune of "God in Me," I know all the words to the very similar "Blame It." That's a conflict of interest on my part. I understand that we should hold ministers of music to high standards, but we musn't forget that we all struggle with maintaining an accurate representation of our faith. All Christians should strive to be different in this world because God has said that he has set us apart as a "peculiar people," and I don't think Mary Mary is being peculiar by featuring Common (a 5%-er, who sees himself as God), Amber Rose and Kanye West in their video for this song. At the same time, we should not forget to look at ourselves and strive to be seen as Christians in our own walks. If I have a problem with Mary Mary's closeness to the world, then I need to assess my own musical tastes. If I don't like what they wore to the BET awards (which I didn't), then I need to make sure that my wardrobe reflects my devotion to Christ as well. It's so easy to talk about the speck in another's eye (not to say that Mary Mary shouldn't be more careful about how close they get to the world; they are in the ministry), but we shouldn't forget that we can see things a lot more clearly once we remove the planks in our own.
Beautiful message.Your words are wise and well-received...
But you also must remember, these artists also have made themselves publicly known to be Christians, so responsibility comes with that -- just like I and any other Believer have the responsibility of representing Christ in all we say or do and are transparent to others.
While there's room for personal preferences (attire, style, etc.), a person's life should line up with the Word for them to be able to draw others to Christ. If people are led to believe they can be saved and still get to live the life they are living, they are being misled. Period. A Believer isn't going to stand to the side and be OK with something like that.
Acceptance of Jesus comes with change.. a renewing of the mind, through the Holy Spirit. When someone gets saved, they should slowly start to change... It is the Holy Spirit that will do the condemning.. not us. But I don't see anything wrong with merely stating the obvious. We're all entitled to that right at Believers, without being accused of judging others.
I say this only in love, so I hope it is received in love.
God Bless you.
I am not certain I follow you but i will say this you would be so right if they had change their life around and were praising God and thanking him for getting them out of the mess they were in and their songs was uplifting God in heaven and magnifying him. As all songs should be, Magnifying God and his glory and mercy and his goodness and his kindness. We have the bible as our example. Mary when she discovered God has chosen her she sang a new song to the lord. ( she praised God for choosing her and it was not an easy thing for her she was facing possible stoning) Elizabeth sang a new song when she was pregnant with John the Baptise Praising God once again. Psalms are full of the songs David sang to the Lord for saving him over and over again. We know from the Word of God that all of our songs are to be uplifting to magnify God. Our father in heaven and that those of us that are christians that see fellow christians not doing this should say something about it. But this is the thing. Mary Mary are not trying to uplift God - Erica's husband said it he is trying to make those hits. its all about those hits so he can be and remain on top. They forgotten what they had started to do. they just remember the struggle of trying to make ends meet and don't want to rehash that again. but I must confess. I like the beat of blame it. I never listen to secular music but I hear it and I know its hypnotising - but its glorifying the evil one. I am fully aware of the attraction of secular music and I am fully aware of who it glorifies and I am not to long coming out of that lifestyle myself and so when I hear it and I have a chance to let someone know what the real deal is I take that chance. Music to the Lord is glorifying its uplifting its wonderful, music to the evil one is hypnotising and you have this mindless movement that sometimes you can't even control and sometimes it can lead you far from where you intended to go.
I can see that you are uninformed about 'Ministry'.