Mary Mary at the BET Awards

[ajoyfuljoy]

I love Mary Mary and the fact that when they came out they had their own sound and style that sent waves through the Christian and secular music world. Their albums were in regular rotation in my college dorm.

But I must say that one of their latest songs "It's the God in Me" which sounds like a knock off of Jamie Foxx's "Blame It on the Alcohol" has me shaking my head. Maybe they didn't know when they were producing it that it would sound like his. IDK. I'm not behind the scenes in the music industry. But anyone that has heard those two songs would agree that the instrumental track sounds almost absolutely the same.

And why did one of the sisters have on skin tight leather leggings? The other sister's skirt was also ultra tight...like to the point where male pervs I know could only comment on what they had on.

You can be trendy and fashionable without having people question what type of attention you are looking for with your clothing choice. Case in point, Joann Rosario. This chick is georgious, trendy and her clothing choices are tasteful and do leave "something" to the imagination.

Mary Mary has done it before and I know that the current season's clothing selections do provide that option.

Once again, I celebrate the talent of these ladies but I question the direction that they are going in as of late - with that song and their clothing choices.

http://www.bet.com/Specials/betawards09/betawards09_videos/betawards09_video_showperformances.htm
(you have to scroll to the bottom of the page to click on the Mary Mary video)

 

[SHEANITPRO]

I love Mary Mary and the fact that when they came out they had their own sound and style that sent waves through the Christian and secular music world. Their albums were in regular rotation in my college dorm.

But I must say that one of their latest songs "It's the God in Me" which sounds like a knock off of Jamie Foxx's "Blame It on the Alcohol" has me shaking my head. Maybe they didn't know when they were producing it that it would sound like his. IDK. I'm not behind the scenes in the music industry. But anyone that has heard those two songs would agree that the instrumental track sounds almost absolutely the same.

And why did one of the sisters have on skin tight leather leggings? The other sister's skirt was also ultra tight...like to the point where male pervs I know could only comment on what they had on.

You can be trendy and fashionable without having people question what type of attention you are looking for with your clothing choice. Case in point, Joann Rosario. This chick is georgious, trendy and her clothing choices are tasteful and do leave "something" to the imagination.

Mary Mary has done it before and I know that the current season's clothing selections do provide that option.

Once again, I celebrate the talent of these ladies but I question the direction that they are going in as of late - with that song and their clothing choices.

You really have a good point. It is a fine line....Christian/secular music these days.

I was happy about, the "polarity" that was shown though! It just went to show some of the young folks who party down based on the rhythm of the music and not the actual "content"....that there is indeed a difference.

 

[Ramya]

I did notice the outfits but I held my peace until my mother says "Why did she choose those leather/pleather leggings?" it was a bit much. That skirt was tiiiighhht too. I really wish they would invest in a stylist that actually dresses them for their body types and ages. They look a mess frequently. Yeah I did notice the similarities between Blame It and It's the God in Me. A DJ that I know actually mixes the two. Now I can't say the intent behind the song but it is almost uncanny that my mind goes to 'Blame It' every time I hear the song.

 

[Angelicus]

I don't even know why you all entertained that foolishness.

 

[meka]

I love Mary Mary


God in me didn't come from Jamie, if anything, he got it from them....

 

[ajoyfuljoy]

I did notice the outfits but I held my peace until my mother says "Why did she choose those leather/pleather leggings?" it was a bit much. That skirt was tiiiighhht too. I really wish they would invest in a stylist that actually dresses them for their body types and ages. They look a mess frequently. Yeah I did notice the similarities between Blame It and It's the God in Me. A DJ that I know actually mixes the two. Now I can't say the intent behind the song but it is almost uncanny that my mind goes to 'Blame It' every time I hear the song.

smh that a DJ mixes the two!

I love Mary Mary


God in me didn't come from Jamie, if anything, he got it from them....

IDK. Blame it is a pretty huge song. If you noticed when they were performing at the awards show, hardly anyone in the audience knew the lyrics. Everybody knows Shackles and some of their other songs but secular people don't really seem plugged into this one (judging by the awards show).

I do know that one of their husband's is a big time secular producer so that would explain the sound maybe. Which song came out first?

 

[Ramya]

I do know that one of their husband's is a big time secular producer so that would explain the sound maybe. Which song came out first?

Or rather which one was recorded first...

 

[barnardbaby027]

It's not a "Blame It On The Alcohol" knockoff. You CAN mix the two sounds, but you can say that about a lot of music. I have some talented Christian rappers in my church's youth ministry who produce some beats that I'm almost sure some secular rappers would be willing to pay big bucks for. That doesn't make the song any less Christian. God created music for HIS glory. Just because the world takes it and uses it for their own purposes does not make it wrong for Christians to continue to use hip hop to glorify God.

With that said, I think that the "God In Me" song lyrics are tough for people who are not Christians to really understand. When you aren't saved, don't know the bible, and don't have a relationship with Christ, you don't really understand how tithing and praying can become keys to unlocking the prosperity that God has for you, and you don't really understand how to properly apply those principles to your life. Because "God In Me" doesn't fully explain it, it's a tough concept for non-Christians to understand.

Couple that misuderstanding with the hip - hop beat (which those who are in the wold associate only with the world's music, not with Chistian music), and what you get is a bunch of people at the BET awards waving their hands around and dancing, but not really understanding what it is that they are hearing. Add to that the tight clothing and poor presentation, and you essentially have a perfect example of ineffective witnessing.

It was NOT a poor performance because of the song (the song really is good and talks about Godly principles), but because they failed to understand how to properly witness to this particular audience - and because the presentation - NOT THE SONG! - was a little too "conformed" to this world...

With that said, I think that if they wanted to really do something that would get the crowd hyped, "Superfriend" would have been a better choice. Everyone - including non-Christians, can understand the concept of God being a friend that will never leave you nor forsake you.

 

[loved]

It's not a "Blame It On The Alcohol" knockoff. You CAN mix the two sounds, but you can say that about a lot of music. I have some talented Christian rappers in my church's youth ministry who produce some beats that I'm almost sure some secular rappers would be willing to pay big bucks for. That doesn't make the song any less Christian. God created music for HIS glory. Just because the world takes it and uses it for their own purposes does not make it wrong for Christians to continue to use hip hop to glorify God.

With that said, I think that the "God In Me" song lyrics are tough for people who are not Christians to really understand. When you aren't saved, don't know the bible, and don't have a relationship with Christ, you don't really understand how tithing and praying can become keys to unlocking the prosperity that God has for you, and you don't really understand how to properly apply those principles to your life. Because "God In Me" doesn't fully explain it, it's a tough concept for non-Christians to understand.

Couple that misuderstanding with the hip - hop beat (which those who are in the wold associate only with the world's music, not with Chistian music), and what you get is a bunch of people at the BET awards waving their hands around and dancing, but not really understanding what it is that they are hearing. Add to that the tight clothing and poor presentation, and you essentially have a perfect example of ineffective witnessing.

It was NOT a poor performance because of the song (the song really is good and talks about Godly principles), but because they failed to understand how to properly witness to this particular audience - and because the presentation - NOT THE SONG! - was a little too "conformed" to this world...

With that said, I think that if they wanted to really do something that would get the crowd hyped, "Superfriend" would have been a better choice. Everyone - including non-Christians, can understand the concept of God being a friend that will never leave you nor forsake you.

I think there are a lot of Christians who understand the principles you mentioned who have a problem with that song. I don't want to take the thread off course though, because there's a very long thread here already about just the song.

I will say that I was disappointed by their appearance and music choice at the awards. A lot of people were hurting and it seemed like a missed opportunity for ministry.

 

[TrustMeLove]

It's not a "Blame It On The Alcohol" knockoff. You CAN mix the two sounds, but you can say that about a lot of music. I have some talented Christian rappers in my church's youth ministry who produce some beats that I'm almost sure some secular rappers would be willing to pay big bucks for. That doesn't make the song any less Christian. God created music for HIS glory. Just because the world takes it and uses it for their own purposes does not make it wrong for Christians to continue to use hip hop to glorify God.

With that said, I think that the "God In Me" song lyrics are tough for people who are not Christians to really understand. When you aren't saved, don't know the bible, and don't have a relationship with Christ, you don't really understand how tithing and praying can become keys to unlocking the prosperity that God has for you, and you don't really understand how to properly apply those principles to your life. Because "God In Me" doesn't fully explain it, it's a tough concept for non-Christians to understand.

Couple that misuderstanding with the hip - hop beat (which those who are in the wold associate only with the world's music, not with Chistian music), and what you get is a bunch of people at the BET awards waving their hands around and dancing, but not really understanding what it is that they are hearing. Add to that the tight clothing and poor presentation, and you essentially have a perfect example of ineffective witnessing.

It was NOT a poor performance because of the song (the song really is good and talks about Godly principles), but because they failed to understand how to properly witness to this particular audience - and because the presentation - NOT THE SONG! - was a little too "conformed" to this world...

With that said, I think that if they wanted to really do something that would get the crowd hyped, "Superfriend" would have been a better choice. Everyone - including non-Christians, can understand the concept of God being a friend that will never leave you nor forsake you.

You are teaching in this post. TEACHING! THank you for so eloquently saying everything that I believe too.

I love the God in me song. It's like finally music that I can listen to and jam...but still receive something good for my spirit...because it's focused on God.

Just like the world has their love songs...we have ours to God.
Just as the world has their rock songs...we have ours to God. (Jars of Clay, DC Talk)
Just as the world has their alternative songs..we have ours to God (Chris Tomlin, Israel).
Just as the world has their rap we have ours to God (Lecrae, Trip Lee)
Just as the world has their R&B/HipHop we have ours to God.

Just as the world worships the things of the word..we worship God.

Just as the world has marriage..we have marriage to God in God etc...

I didn't see Mary Mary and I heard they were doing some outlandish stuff by my LA fam...but I'm not surprised if there outfits were not becoming...

However, that still doesnt' negate how their songs minister to me personally. And I'm a worshipper. I worship at home..on the train..at the gas station, at work.
Sing in praise and worship, sing in a community choir, and sung all throughout college in an a capella gospel group.

But, I like their hipper songs and I've turned them on for some of my younger cousins who weren't raised in church and they will even listen to it....So it's a good ministring tool for me to reach my younger family members. Because of course I start talking about the lyrics in the song..and give a short testimony or something mini sermonette. lol.

 

[ajoyfuljoy]

It's not a "Blame It On The Alcohol" knockoff. You CAN mix the two sounds, but you can say that about a lot of music. I have some talented Christian rappers in my church's youth ministry who produce some beats that I'm almost sure some secular rappers would be willing to pay big bucks for. That doesn't make the song any less Christian. God created music for HIS glory. Just because the world takes it and uses it for their own purposes does not make it wrong for Christians to continue to use hip hop to glorify God.

With that said, I think that the "God In Me" song lyrics are tough for people who are not Christians to really understand. When you aren't saved, don't know the bible, and don't have a relationship with Christ, you don't really understand how tithing and praying can become keys to unlocking the prosperity that God has for you, and you don't really understand how to properly apply those principles to your life. Because "God In Me" doesn't fully explain it, it's a tough concept for non-Christians to understand.

Couple that misuderstanding with the hip - hop beat (which those who are in the wold associate only with the world's music, not with Chistian music), and what you get is a bunch of people at the BET awards waving their hands around and dancing, but not really understanding what it is that they are hearing. Add to that the tight clothing and poor presentation, and you essentially have a perfect example of ineffective witnessing.

It was NOT a poor performance because of the song (the song really is good and talks about Godly principles), but because they failed to understand how to properly witness to this particular audience - and because the presentation - NOT THE SONG! - was a little too "conformed" to this world...

With that said, I think that if they wanted to really do something that would get the crowd hyped, "Superfriend" would have been a better choice. Everyone - including non-Christians, can understand the concept of God being a friend that will never leave you nor forsake you.

It's nice to have different perspectives. I do respect your opinion. I still think the song is a Blame It knockoff. Whether it is or no, many who hear the song will automatically think of Jamie's song.

I'm not debating musical sounds at all. I'm 26 and I don't have a traditional mindset when it comes to music. But I must say that it's one thing for two songs to sound similar. It's another for two songs to have nearly identical instrumental tracks.

I also know Christians that produce beats who think some of Mary Mary's music has really crossed a fine line. Another poster stated that there is a super long thread already about the song so I won't focus on that.

We do agree though that the presentation was . Hopefully they will get some contrustive feedback about that and change how they do things.

 

[TrustMeLove]

God in Me was released wayy wayy before Blame it On the Alcohol. That's unfair for Mary Mary's music to be considered a knock off of Jamie's.

Mary Mary's The Sound Album was released October 2008.
Jamie's Album Intuition was released December 16, 2008.

Blame it came out January 26, 3009.


That's like Columbus discovering America. That's a joke.

Regardless, of whether or not one thinks they have gone too far...They did come out with theirs first.

 

[divya]

I could only take a few minutes of the BET awards, so I didn't see them. My view is simply that there should be a clear distinction between that which is Godly and that with is secular. To me, Mary Mary's song "God in Me" and the video is too borderline.

Revelation 3:13-16 - He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

These verses speak to me as an individual as music is a struggle for me. They definitely come to mind when discussing this particular Mary Mary song. Honestly, I should not have been watching the BET awards with high level of filth on it. Further, should Christians even attend such affairs? It's a question worth asking ourselves...

 

[Ramya]

God in Me was released wayy wayy before Blame it On the Alcohol. That's unfair for Mary Mary's music to be considered a knock off of Jamie's.

Mary Mary's The Sound Album was released October 2008.
Jamie's Album Intuition was released December 16, 2008.

Blame it came out January 26, 3009.


That's like Columbus discovering America. That's a joke.

Regardless, of whether or not one thinks they have gone too far...They did come out with theirs first.

It was released to the PUBLIC at that time. The song was already recorded prior to that date. It sounds like Blame It. Maybe the same people worked on the songs? Who knows. I like Mary Mary and I like "The Sound" for the most part BUT their performance at the BET awards was shameful.

 

[Country gal]

I am not feeling the song. I understand that It's the God in them that allows them to have the success. I just think the song is poorly written.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

Why not let God deal with whether or not they were lukewarm?

To some, it can be seen as lukewarm, but if it exposed millions to God... and possibly influenced some to learn more about Him, then it far overshadows anyone else's thoughts if it accomplishes their goal.

Otherwise, although you acknowledge that you feel you shouldn't have watched "such filth" as you called it (and I know you're SDA, I remember - we spoke about this a while ago ) ... someone could say you were "just as lukewarm" for watching it...

I'm not saying that to attack, but simply from another viewpoint.

I personally do not like a lot of gospel, and no it's not a spirit of rebellion or apathy against praising the Lord. I just have personal and valid reasons behind it. However, I like the God In Me song. I listened to the song before I realized what I was listening to, and I was thrown by how powerfully the message reached me. It compelled me to speak to God and establish a daily relationship with God.

I have no comment on their performance/attire/etc. ... but I will say is God knows what God is doing when it comes to attracting people to the Kingdom.

 

[MA2010]

I can only think of T-Pain when I hear "God in Me". Auto tune and all. He might as well be featured in the song. Sounds just like him.

 

[TrustMeLove]

We laughed and thought the song sounded like a Tpain song as well. But, what does that have to do with the song?

Because it sounds like something else it's unholy? It still was about God. If one just doesn't like the words OK. But, just because something sounds the same doesn't mean it's garbage.

For some you can't listen to certain music because of what that music means to you in your life. However, for the rest of us WE ARE GOOD. Listening to God In Me doesn't have me feeling ill or like I'm sinning or unholy because it sounds like a TPain song.

When I was younger I was a HUGE MatchBox 20 fan...huge OASIS fan...I loved Third Eye Blind....and in another thread I started..these folks did not talk about Holy things. Semi Charmed was all about drug use and how it made you feel good.

I now listen to similiar music styles by Christians....

Of Course Chris Tomlin who I LOVE comes to mind..DC Talk..Barlow Girl...

Sam type of chords even writing styles in some of their music, but the MESSAGE IS DIFFERENT. I am so in a place of worship. Should I not listen to them because they remind me of wordly music I listened to in my past?

Your convictions aren't my convictions and I think that's being spread around very loosely.

I don't watch BET. I didn't watch the BET awards I think the whole channel and show is garbage and I am always watchful to try my best to guard my eyes, ears, and all windows to my soul. You ladies who did watch..umm I don't care. You might not be as susceptible to things like I am...or you may not see anything wrong with it..and that's fine...that's based upon YOUR personal relationshp with God.

I still haven't seen the God In Me video..from you all said it's very worldly...from the discriptions of the video it sounds a hot mess too. NEVERTHELESS, it still doesn't negate the fact that when I first heard the song (before any video)..FOR ME...I was really blessed.

Talking about giving God the glory and making sure the world doesn't think your material blessings came from YOUR hardwork..or YOUR brillance..that everything you have came from God. Like Job said the Lord giveth and the Lord hath taken away. And yes Job was talking about his tangible blessings...

That message resonated with me..and blessed me..and I don't have Job nor Mary Mary status, but the little I do have I am thankful and am not ashamed to make it known that it came from God. That's what I hear...that's what my spirit receives and praises in when I listen to that song.

 

[TrustMeLove]

It was released to the PUBLIC at that time. The song was already recorded prior to that date. It sounds like Blame It. Maybe the same people worked on the songs? Who knows. I like Mary Mary and I like "The Sound" for the most part BUT their performance at the BET awards was shameful.

Maybe it was worked on by the same people? That's pure speculation. Honestly. No one has proved that Mary Mary copied Jamie or that Jamie copied Mary Mary. No facts to back up this claim that Mary copied Jamie.

Only fact that has been stated were the release dates. Mary's came out before Jamie's.

However, it is very clear that their song sounds like music of the times. The beat etc... It's definitely not 2010 or ..1990..it sounds like music of other secular artist..except the words. I'm not shocked or appauled..my Christian Rock sounds like music of the times..when it comes to rock music. I'm not going to stop listening to it either. lol.

I didn't see their performance...I don't watch BET. But, I believe you when you say that it was shameful. I'm not surprised. Seems like a lot of stuff for us Christians who have known them for a while has been off in their attire and presentation...

My whole point is to say regarding this whole God In Me song. Not everyone feels the same about the song and people on either side shouldn't demonize or make folks who like or dislike it feel like they are wrong for feeling that way.

It's all about ones relationship with God and what you can do and what you can't do. I can't even think to watch the BET awards. Not an option. But, others can who are Christian and I refuse to judge ..don't even think to judge. I just can't...but obviously they can.

 

[luvn_life]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the song. I think that it's good that they are trying to appeal to the younger and unsaved crowds. Who cares about the beat, the important part is the message and if people can't get the song out of their head at least its a positive message and not blame it on the al al al al co hol... Their saving that God is the reason they made it and look fresh while doing it. Not everybody like hyms and old school spirituals. This is exactly the same argument people were trying to make when Kirk Franklin came out with Stomp and revolution.

And as far as their fashion choices... It was just an outfit. What were they supposed to wear??

 

[divya]

Why not let God deal with whether or not they were lukewarm?

To some, it can be seen as lukewarm, but if it exposed millions to God... and possibly influenced some to learn more about Him, then it far overshadows anyone else's thoughts if it accomplishes their goal.

Otherwise, although you acknowledge that you feel you shouldn't have watched "such filth" as you called it (and I know you're SDA, I remember - we spoke about this a while ago ) ... someone could say you were "just as lukewarm" for watching it...

I'm not saying that to attack, but simply from another viewpoint.

I personally do not like a lot of gospel, and no it's not a spirit of rebellion or apathy against praising the Lord. I just have personal and valid reasons behind it. However, I like the God In Me song. I listened to the song before I realized what I was listening to, and I was thrown by how powerfully the message reached me. It compelled me to speak to God and establish a daily relationship with God.

I have no comment on their performance/attire/etc. ... but I will say is God knows what God is doing when it comes to attracting people to the Kingdom.

Please reread my post. My statement was simply that the verse comes to mind when I think about the song and video and my personal struggles. It has nothing to do with Mary Mary as individuals...

Neither did I comment on their appearance, as I didn't see what they were wearing. Again, hardly saw any of the program at all (don't like hip hop a genre). My only interest was to see a tribute to Michael Jackson.

Also, could you clarify how SDA affiliation relates? I ask because the standards of the Scriptures stand regardless of anyone’s faith. Of one sees my actions lukewarm for watching 5 minutes of a program - such as life. It would be great if someone could provide me particular Scriptures and encouraging words to strengthen my spiritual walk. As stated earlier, music is part of my personal struggle.

However, one of the issues when discussing these things with some Christians. As soon as a person mentions a verse that may provide a standard for us to adhere to, then people assume that they are attacking individuals involved. Why? And then they attempt to make things personal.

Is it so difficult to contemplate how Scriptures may apply to certain situations?

Honestly, we can debate about why we like or support or don't like or support certain artists or actions. But what does the Scripture say? How can does it apply to our lives? That's what I'm most interested in...because I want to please God.

Hopefully this makes my post clearer...

 

[divya]

It was released to the PUBLIC at that time. The song was already recorded prior to that date. It sounds like Blame It. Maybe the same people worked on the songs? Who knows. I like Mary Mary and I like "The Sound" for the most part BUT their performance at the BET awards was shameful.

So they performed? Any pictures? Was there questionable dancing?

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

Please reread my post. My statement was simply that the verse comes to mind when I think about the song and video and my personal struggles. It has nothing to do with Mary Mary as individuals...

Neither did I comment on their appearance, as I didn't see what they were wearing. Again, hardly saw any of the program at all (don't like hip hop a genre). My only interest was to see a tribute to Michael Jackson.

Also, could you clarify how SDA affiliation relates? I ask because the standards of the Scriptures stand regardless of anyone’s faith. Of one sees my actions lukewarm for watching 5 minutes of a program - such as life. It would be great if someone could provide me particular Scriptures and encouraging words to strengthen my spiritual walk. As stated earlier, music is part of my personal struggle.

However, one of the issues when discussing these things with some Christians. As soon as a person mentions a verse that may provide a standard for us to adhere to, then people assume that they are attacking individuals involved. Why? And then they attempt to make things personal.

Is it so difficult to contemplate how Scriptures may apply to certain situations?

Honestly, we can debate about why we like or support or don't like or support certain artists or actions. But what does the Scripture say? How can does it apply to our lives? That's what I'm most interested in...because I want to please God.

Hopefully this makes my post clearer...

I somehow mistook you for the original poster, and then responded to others without directly quoting.

In my experience, as a former SDA, they are VERY strict on their viewpoints, even more strict than other "Sunday" denominations, that's why I mentioned that.

Again, I'm not attacking you, I was simply saying what some "Christian" people think is a sinful method of worship to God, actually brings others to God. The SDAs I knew and dated would have burned Mary Mary to the ground for their actions... but justify their use of the TV to watch them. Tis all.

but I'm staying out of this thread and forum, because despite what's here, every denomination and every person has a different "reason" for their beliefs and anyone can twist doctrine to their beliefs.

 

[divya]

I somehow mistook you for the original poster, and then responded to others without directly quoting.

Oh ok...b/c I was wondering where you were coming from. I'm definitely not the original poster. Not into Mary Mary like that or into hip hop or even the gospel scene much at all.

In my experience, as a former SDA, they are VERY strict on their viewpoints, even more strict than other "Sunday" denominations, that's why I mentioned that.

The SDA faith is doctrinally by the Scriptures and imo, that is the difference from first day denominations. However, there are all types of people from all walks of life within the faith.

Again, I'm not attacking you, I was simply saying what some "Christian" people think is a sinful method of worship to God, actually brings others to God. The SDAs I knew and dated would have burned Mary Mary to the ground for their actions... but justify their use of the TV to watch them. Tis all.

That is what some Christians may feel. There are people of all branches of Christianity who will fall under that category. My only point is that we have to be careful, because walking the line is not acceptable to God, as the Scriptures show.

However, we all choose who we associate with. The SDAs that you knew and dated were people that you chose to be around. There are a number of SDAs like Mary Mary, and plenty who don't - just like on this forum. If those who you associated with were the type of people to burn down others to begin with, why be around them? There are many other individuals to get to know and churches to associate with.

but I'm staying out of this thread and forum, because despite what's here, every denomination and every person has a different "reason" for their beliefs and anyone can twist doctrine to their beliefs.

True, but regardless, we have to choose an honest and truthful approach when we speak about a topic. If you are implying that people here are twisting their doctrine to suit their beliefs, please explain how.

What denominations are represented and what do they believe?

Are people twisting doctrine to their beliefs because they start a thread or participate in a thread about Mary Mary at a secular awards show?

 

[blazingthru]

I been thinking about how many say it reaches people that are lost --this here particular song---- but watching the BET awards and I never watch this stuff but i was getting my hair done and I let the young girls watch it since I refuse to go to her house and get my twist in and those girls were dancing to Mary Mary they werent' thinking about no God. This is not the first time I seen this I seen it on 106 and park and I see it on other shows that mary mary is a guest---and those people be just jamming. They aren't thinking about God. Or having a relationship with God they are thinking about the beat. My daughter has her friends come over and I catch a glimpse of what they be watching. I dont' like 106 and park and make her change it but I watched mary mary perform what a shame. its really all about the money its not about saving souls. Plus another thing. Why Why would God want you to show your wealth. How does it glorify God. When he says

“God blesses those who are poor and realize their need for him,[a]
for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.
4 God blesses those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 God blesses those who are humble,
for they will inherit the whole earth.
6 God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice,
for they will be satisfied.
7 God blesses those who are merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 God blesses those whose hearts are pure,
for they will see God.
9 God blesses those who work for peace,
for they will be called the children of God.
10 God blesses those who are persecuted for doing right,
for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.
I think that if you are wealthy that you are blessed and you should be blessing others continually. Continually not bragging about it. People should be speaking of you as a blessing to others.

 

[chicacanella]

What I do know is that heavy metal rock and rock and roll doesn't sit right with me. I know alot of Christians say it is still minstering but it induces a spirit of confusion in my opinion. Certain beats along with songs have attachments to them so someone could change the lyrics but still have the same spirit attached to it. That's a bit scary but eye opening at the same time.

 

[MA2010]

We laughed and thought the song sounded like a Tpain song as well. But, what does that have to do with the song?

Because it sounds like something else it's unholy? It still was about God. If one just doesn't like the words OK. But, just because something sounds the same doesn't mean it's garbage.

For some you can't listen to certain music because of what that music means to you in your life. However, for the rest of us WE ARE GOOD. Listening to God In Me doesn't have me feeling ill or like I'm sinning or unholy because it sounds like a TPain song.

I agree TML . I really do not want to come off as judging others who like the song.

Trust me when I say these are my convictions. I wouldn't speak for anyone else in the matter.

When I first heard God in Me, with no video, it immediately took me back to the clubs . No praise, no worship, just "shaking it". That's just me though girl.

I'm working on it.......

 

[Shimmie]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the song. I think that it's good that they are trying to appeal to the younger and unsaved crowds. Who cares about the beat, the important part is the message and if people can't get the song out of their head at least its a positive message and not blame it on the al al al al co hol... Their saving that God is the reason they made it and look fresh while doing it. Not everybody like hyms and old school spirituals. This is exactly the same argument people were trying to make when Kirk Franklin came out with Stomp and revolution.

And as far as their fashion choices... It was just an outfit. What were they supposed to wear??

Clothes..........

 

[ajoyfuljoy]

I'm glad to see everyone discussing peacefully. And it's interesting to read everyone else's opinions.

I agree with many posters that have said that many types of Christian and non-Christian music uses even the same cords.

But the two songs Blame It and It's the God in Me both sound like they were produced by the same person... It's not just the sound of the times but the sound of a very specific secular producer. And that is what gave me pause.

This song for me wasn't original like Shackles, Trevon's B-Day party, In the Morning or even that horrid song Yesterday which I despise (I just don't like it lol).

And like Ramya said, there is a diff. b/t which song was recorded first and which song came out first.

My point was that Mary Mary has too much talent to start sounding like everyone else. I just hope that they will continue to push themselves to create their own sound - the sound which raised them up in the music industry in the first place.

I just hope they get back on track and hop back over the fine line and return to the safe side.

 

[Shimmie]

I'm glad to see everyone discussing peacefully. And it's interesting to read everyone else's opinions.

I agree with many posters that have said that many types of Christian and non-Christian music uses even the same cords.

But the two songs Blame It and It's the God in Me both sound like they were produced by the same person...I believe that person is Akon. It's not just the sound of the times but the sound of a very specific secular producer. And that is what gave me pause.

This song for me wasn't original like Shackles, Trevon's B-Day party, In the Morning or even that horrid song Yesterday which I despise (I just don't like it lol).

And like Ramya said, there is a diff. b/t which song was recorded first and which song came out first.

My point was that Mary Mary has too much talent to start sounding like everyone else. I just hope that they will continue to push themselves to create their own sound - the sound which raised them up in the music industry in the first place.

I just hope they get back on track and hop back over the fine line and return to the safe side.

And dress appropriately...

BTW: I really llike Trevons' Birthday Party...