Low Porosity Support Thread

Kindheart said:
I find products with a high PH work alot better for my hair . Kbb Sweet ambrosia absorbs into my hair ..only con is the glycerin.

Does LP hair accept conea better than HP hair?
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My natural hair can't deal with dimethicone. Not sure about the others. It blocks too much moisture for my hair.
 
I just found out my hair is low porosity ( I did the glass test and the majority of it floated on the top, only the tips sank a little ).

Is there anything I should add into my regimen to help combat that? I don't use heat for my DC's but I do rinse with really warm water before applying anything to my hair. I know a lot of people use steamers with their DC but I dont know where I could get those. Sometimes the product sits sometimes it doesnt and I dont know if I am sure I know the difference.

Is there anything I change do conditioner wise? I just recently used redkin extreme conditioner (protein) and it made my hair feel SUPER hard for some reason so I did a tea rinse under a moisturizing shampoo and it helped a little but it still felt a little hard. Which was a big change from when I tea rinsed and DC on my big wash day. My hair it hadnt done before I started using the moisturizing conditioners and dc's.

The breakage and shedding has cut down since I have been doing the tea rinses so maybe my hair doesnt need that much protein anymore? All I know is before I used to do protein conditioners and DP and I was fine, then all the sudden my hair feels like clumps of straw after using them. What do I do?

ETA: my reggie right now is, Sunday: Major wash day, DC with Organics Olive Oil and black tea/chamomile/green tea rinse for an hour.

Wednesday and Fridays are my co wash days and I have both the redkin and organixs morrocan argan creme and nexus humectress leave in.

Then depending if I am going to flat iron or not I either do a heat protectant with Paul Mitchel Heat seal and wet wrap or Baby Butter creme for curly.
 
Ok Lo Po ladies trying to see if there is a consensus on any regimen/product since most of us have varying levels of lo po issues and diff products that work fork for diff folx etc.

I'm personally in a trial and error stage and after just re-reading this post, I may have to change up some of my prodcuts.

If I'm understanding this correctly: During the wash process or right before we condition we should raise the PH of our hair (using an alkaline product/method)?

I currently wash with Trader Joe's Shampoo and then do the baking soda rinse (Cherry Lola) moisturize then follow with Kimmay's recipe and Darcy's Botanicals leave in.

Is raising the PH what has worked for most? Is anyone using an alkaline shampoo and if so which? Castile?

So after rinsing condish out, is the hair still at a high PH? What type of leave in is working for most? It hair is at a high ph still does it matter what leave in you use as long as you bring hair back down to normal ph?
Seems like some like liquid vs creamy leave ins.. My hair feels moisturized using the DB and Kimmay (this is after rollerset) but idk if it is truly moisturized or if it's just really soft because I've used so much product...

Is there anyone who is not bringing hair back down to normal ph using Kimmay's or another product?

After styling, what is everyone doing to moisturize hair before next shampoo? If the cuticles are closed (from Kimmay's or another product from wash day) how can cuticles be reoponed when you are trying to moisturize during the week?
 
cocoagirl said:
After styling, what is everyone doing to moisturize hair before next shampoo? If the cuticles are closed (from Kimmay's or another product from wash day) how can cuticles be reoponed when you are trying to moisturize during the week?
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To reopen my cuticles I like to apply moisturizer and then baggy overnight or ill baggy at night and then apply my moisturizer in the morning. Either way a baggy is involved lol
 
Igotstripes said:
To reopen my cuticles I like to apply moisturizer and then baggy overnight or ill baggy at night and then apply my moisturizer in the morning. Either way a baggy is involved lol
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ok, do you wet your hair at all before applying moisturizer or just use water based moisturizer (before baggying)
 
cocoagirl said:
Ok Lo Po ladies trying to see if there is a consensus on any regimen/product since most of us have varying levels of lo po issues and diff products that work fork for diff folx etc.

I'm personally in a trial and error stage and after just re-reading this post, I may have to change up some of my prodcuts.

If I'm understanding this correctly: During the wash process or right before we condition we should raise the PH of our hair (using an alkaline product/method)?

I currently wash with Trader Joe's Shampoo and then do the baking soda rinse (Cherry Lola) moisturize then follow with Kimmay's recipe and Darcy's Botanicals leave in.

Is raising the PH what has worked for most? Is anyone using an alkaline shampoo and if so which? Castile?

So after rinsing condish out, is the hair still at a high PH? What type of leave in is working for most? It hair is at a high ph still does it matter what leave in you use as long as you bring hair back down to normal ph?
Seems like some like liquid vs creamy leave ins.. My hair feels moisturized using the DB and Kimmay (this is after rollerset) but idk if it is truly moisturized or if it's just really soft because I've used so much product...

Is there anyone who is not bringing hair back down to normal ph using Kimmay's or another product?

After styling, what is everyone doing to moisturize hair before next shampoo? If the cuticles are closed (from Kimmay's or another product from wash day) how can cuticles be reoponed when you are trying to moisturize during the week?
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i sometimes use shampoos that are 5-6, but i don't get too caught up into that. i use castile soap mixed with my conditioner to help with hydration. (just a several drops mixed with conditioner) i stay away from heavy products that can cause buildup and coat the hair, or i wash my hair twice a week.
 
Thank you faithVA for this thread. About 6 months after my HHJ began I discovered applying a heat source after leave in and my hair felt awesome. For some reason I forgot all about this now I am back full circle:) I will not stop doing it this time. My hair like indirect heat after leave in and it really helps get the moisture in. I think if someone is having trouble keeping moisture longer than a day or they should try this. I dont have to moisturize for at least a week:)
 
winona said:
Thank you faithVA for this thread. About 6 months after my HHJ began I discovered applying a heat source after leave in and my hair felt awesome. For some reason I forgot all about this now I am back full circle:) I will not stop doing it this time. My hair like indirect heat after leave in and it really helps get the moisture in. I think if someone is having trouble keeping moisture longer than a day or they should try this. I dont have to moisturize for at least a week:)
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I just tried this today and it has definitely made a difference. I also wanted to share a new product that I have been using. Its called elasticisizer by Philip Kingsley. Its a pre poo and I have been using it for the last three months and I think it really does help with my hairs elasticity.
 
As I trim off some troubled ends, I'm finding my porosity isn't as low as it once was. The last time I checked porosity, my roots & length seems normal porosity whereas ends seem low porosity. I don't check porosity often or every wash day. I only check it when I'm having issues.

I tried something last wash day that turned out ok. I turbie twisted my hair for about 10 minutes then applied my leave in and finished off with air drying. I normally apply leave in on sopping wet hair.
 
[USER=347559 said:
heirloom[/USER];17710571]I just tried this today and it has definitely made a difference. I also wanted to share a new product that I have been using. Its called elasticisizer by Philip Kingsley. Its a pre poo and I have been using it for the last three months and I think it really does help with my hairs elasticity.
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Please explain further. Why do you need help with your hairs elasticity? Is it preventing breakage? Or is there some other benefit? tia
 
faithVA said:
Please explain further. Why do you need help with your hairs elasticity? Is it preventing breakage? Or is there some other benefit? tia
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I think it's meant to make hair less prone to damage.

Here is the product description and ingredients:

Elasticizer Extreme is targeted at a very specific hair type: Extremely dry, porous and very thirsty! Suited to all variants of African-Caribbean hair types. This pre-shampoo intensive super moisturizing product is ideal for hair that is exceptionally processed and damaged as it will provide instant replenishment, hydration and nourishment. Also provides UV protection even after washing, helping prolong the life of colour treated hair. Visible results from one application that continues to improve with regular use. Fragrance free. Not suitable for fine hair.
150ml
Higher level of active ingredients from the original Elasticizer
Higher levels of natural castor oil and olive oil - locks in moisture, adds bounce and improves shine
Higher levels of elastin - greater strength and elasticity
Suitable for use on colour treated hair
Directions: For best results use regularly. Before shampooing, wet hair and apply in sections. Work into hair with finger tips. Cover with a plastic cap and leave for 10 - 20 minutes before washing. Rinse well and follow with the appropriate Philip Kingsley shampoo, conditioner and scalp toner. Finer hair textures apply sparingly through mid lengths and ends
Indications: Keep away from eyes. In case of contact, rinse immediately with clean warm water
Ingredients: Aqua (Water),Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Olea Europaea (Olive) Husk Oil, Ethylhexyl Dimethyl PABA, Amodimethicone, Polyquaternium-37, Silicone Quaternium-18, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, Trideceth-12, Diazolidinyl Urea, Trideceth-6, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Elastin, Methylparaben, PPG-1 Trideceth-6, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben
Special Size Type: One size
 
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faithVA said:
Thanks Kindheart. That was helpful. It does seem to be aimed at porous hair vs. low porosity hair, but it may work for both.
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You're very welcome .
I used it in the past and remember liking it ,it's quite smoothing and doesn't leave hair greasy .I never repurchased cuz I didn't see the point of using it on dirty hair before shampooing.It seemed a waste .
 
winona said:
Thank you faithVA for this thread. About 6 months after my HHJ began I discovered applying a heat source after leave in and my hair felt awesome. For some reason I forgot all about this now I am back full circle:) I will not stop doing it this time. My hair like indirect heat after leave in and it really helps get the moisture in. I think if someone is having trouble keeping moisture longer than a day or they should try this. I dont have to moisturize for at least a week:)
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I am confused. Sorry. What heat source do u use?
 
faithVA said:
Thanks Kindheart. That was helpful. It does seem to be aimed at porous hair vs. low porosity hair, but it may work for both.
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I'm not sure whether it works for high porosity. But before I used it it was really hard for me to get any moisture into my hair therefore it would break like crazy, about 3inches at a time. Now I'm getting hardly any breakage and my hair feels more moisturised. I use it under the hood dryer for at least 20 mins before rinsing out and it does the job
 
[USER=342565 said:
Prettycoach[/USER];17720267]I am confused. Sorry. What heat source do u use?
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I have been doing this in the form of hooded dryer after setting my hair on rollers. 1st time was flexi rods, 2nd time was curlformers. I was stretching my hair before but I was missing the hooded dryer piece out of sheer laziness:look: I dont have to spend all day under there just about 30 min with warm heat.
 
hnntrr said:
I just found out my hair is low porosity ( I did the glass test and the majority of it floated on the top, only the tips sank a little ).

Is there anything I should add into my regimen to help combat that? I don't use heat for my DC's but I do rinse with really warm water before applying anything to my hair. I know a lot of people use steamers with their DC but I dont know where I could get those. Sometimes the product sits sometimes it doesnt and I dont know if I am sure I know the difference.

Is there anything I change do conditioner wise? I just recently used redkin extreme conditioner (protein) and it made my hair feel SUPER hard for some reason so I did a tea rinse under a moisturizing shampoo and it helped a little but it still felt a little hard. Which was a big change from when I tea rinsed and DC on my big wash day. My hair it hadnt done before I started using the moisturizing conditioners and dc's.

The breakage and shedding has cut down since I have been doing the tea rinses so maybe my hair doesnt need that much protein anymore? All I know is before I used to do protein conditioners and DP and I was fine, then all the sudden my hair feels l

Wednesday and Fridays are my co wash days and I have both the redkin and organixs morrocan argan creme and nexus humectress leave in.

Then depending if I am going to flat iron or not I either do a heat protectant with Paul Mitchel Heat seal and wet wrap or Baby Butter creme for curly.
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maybe you have used the protein too often?
you should buy a heat cap... that will help your hair absorb the conditioners... heat cap or steamer is a must!:yep:
a heat cap went out.
i took my damp towel microwaved & wrapped my hair. until I bought another heat cap. you have to use heat..
 
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winona said:
I have been doing this in the form of hooded dryer after setting my hair on rollers. 1st time was flexi rods, 2nd time was curlformers. I was stretching my hair before but I was missing the hooded dryer piece out of sheer laziness:look: I dont have to spend all day under there just about 30 min with warm heat.
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Ok thanks. Now I understand lol.
 
hnntrr said:
I just found out my hair is low porosity ( I did the glass test and the majority of it floated on the top, only the tips sank a little ).

Is there anything I should add into my regimen to help combat that? I don't use heat for my DC's but I do rinse with really warm water before applying anything to my hair. I know a lot of people use steamers with their DC but I dont know where I could get those. Sometimes the product sits sometimes it doesnt and I dont know if I am sure I know the difference.

Is there anything I change do conditioner wise? I just recently used redkin extreme conditioner (protein) and it made my hair feel SUPER hard for some reason so I did a tea rinse under a moisturizing shampoo and it helped a little but it still felt a little hard. Which was a big change from when I tea rinsed and DC on my big wash day. My hair it hadnt done before I started using the moisturizing conditioners and dc's.

The breakage and shedding has cut down since I have been doing the tea rinses so maybe my hair doesnt need that much protein anymore? All I know is before I used to do protein conditioners and DP and I was fine, then all the sudden my hair feels like clumps of straw after using them. What do I do?

ETA: my reggie right now is, Sunday: Major wash day, DC with Organics Olive Oil and black tea/chamomile/green tea rinse for an hour.

Wednesday and Fridays are my co wash days and I have both the redkin and organixs morrocan argan creme and nexus humectress leave in.

Then depending if I am going to flat iron or not I either do a heat protectant with Paul Mitchel Heat seal and wet wrap or Baby Butter creme for curly.
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hnntrr

I've found for me that a strong black tea rinse can sometimes act like protein on my hair. One or two others have said the same. Maybe it was that and the pro treatment that made your hair hard. Just use moisturizing condish for the next two weeks or until your hair feels better. I'm in the middle of a protein overload, too. So don't feel discouraged. It happens!
 
Bajanmum said:
@hnntrr

I've found for me that a strong black tea rinse can sometimes act like protein on my hair. One or two others have said the same. Maybe it was that and the pro treatment that made your hair hard. Just use moisturizing condish for the next two weeks or until your hair feels better. I'm in the middle of a protein overload, too. So don't feel discouraged. It happens!
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Yes black tea makes my hair hard. I try to use some type of herbal tea, like chamomile.

I tried to use Nubian Heritage Growth and Strength 1x a month :nono: Even that was to much. I am going to look at every 3 to 6 months. My ends just snapped off. My hair was mad at me :sad:
 
I have finally found a protein treatment that works well with my hair. I used ION Reconstructor last night and my hair feels stronger, softer and more moisturized today. I haven't done a protein treatment since 2011 because the Aphogee 2 min scared me. And protein conditioners have been leaving my hair hard.

But I color my hair so I definitely need protein. I also bought the ION Effective Care which I think is a milder protein. I will try that soon. I may use the Reconstructor after I color my hair and the Effective Care if I need it in between.

I am hoping that this really helps my retention.
 
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