tthreat08
New Member
Good call. And very take charge on your part - i know what a pain it can be to move a child to another school, but it was definitely worth it.
Thanks. Gotta do what'cha gotta do.
Good call. And very take charge on your part - i know what a pain it can be to move a child to another school, but it was definitely worth it.
God bless you, I think you are doing the right thing and I love that you are proactive. A lot of parents give their kids lip service "oh but of course your hair is pretty" and then do nothing to reinforce the words. How many black mothers like their own hair? How many black parents give their kids black dolls to play with instead of buying white, often blond, straight-haired dolls? How many black women stop in their tracks to admire a nice fro they way they point and gasp and stare at long, straight hair? If you (not anyone here, just "you" in the general sense) crave "bouncy", "silky" straight hair then why be surprised or "sad" when your daughter craves straight hair and feels less than for not having straight hair? More black women need to start asking themselves honest questions instead of pretending they don't understand where their daughters' self-hatred comes from.
I have experienced this with my daughters. They have two different textures (same two parents-just different textures between the two of the them). The youngest one is 3b while the older one is more like 4a maybe. Well, when the youngest one would get her hair wet, it would go down and curly. The older one's hair when wet goes OUT and curly. The older one had problems with this. THEN after my constant coaching and kudos on how beautiful BOTH heads of hair were, the oldest one came home from her suburban predominately white school and SAID,
"Mommy I want BLONDE hair and BLUE eyes, and I want my hair straight".....so I did not wait to pass go, did no wait to collect $200, I dis-enrolled her from the school she was in (only chocolate love drop in her class) and placed her in a more DIVERSE school sprinkled with ALL different ethnicities. NOW, she sees other kids like herself at school and has her own confidence. Every child is different. She's the only one of my children that had this issue. She now loves her hair, and when her little friends want to dress alike or what not....she doesn't ask for BLONDE hair, only "make it into one ponytail with bangs mommy" or something like that. Incidently her group of frineds is diverse but she still is confident in herself. I thank God for revealing to me the change she needed.
Question for the folks who have posted thus far in this thread...
Do you think wanting to have straight hair is symptomatic of self hatred? Or is it only self hatred in a certain context?
Personally, I think it's self hatred if you want straight hair BECAUSE you think your natural hair just isn't as good. And I think that that's what's going on with a lot of little Black girls. It's not just that they like the look of straight hair and enjoy having it, but that they think that they are less than for not having it.
I prefer to have my hair relaxed/texlaxed. Not because I don't like my natural hair (I've seen my curl pattern, it's really quite lovely), but because I love having the current length and don't want to whack it off!!!
However, I realize that if I do make a choice to wear my hair straight, I'll have to do some explaining to my future daughter for sure. And that's going to be tough. How do you explain to a child that you should love what you have but how you wear it is a personal choice of expression?
I guess it's about making sure that they understand that they don't HAVE to look one certain way to be considered beautiful.
Question for the folks who have posted thus far in this thread...
Do you think wanting to have straight hair is symptomatic of self hatred? Or is it only self hatred in a certain context?
Personally, I think it's self hatred if you want straight hair BECAUSE you think your natural hair just isn't as good. And I think that that's what's going on with a lot of little Black girls. It's not just that they like the look of straight hair and enjoy having it, but that they think that they are less than for not having it.
I prefer to have my hair relaxed/texlaxed. Not because I don't like my natural hair (I've seen my curl pattern, it's really quite lovely), but because I love having the current length and don't want to whack it off!!!
However, I realize that if I do make a choice to wear my hair straight, I'll have to do some explaining to my future daughter for sure. And that's going to be tough. How do you explain to a child that you should love what you have but how you wear it is a personal choice of expression?
I guess it's about making sure that they understand that they don't HAVE to look one certain way to be considered beautiful.
I understand a lot of this unfortunately. I have had to battle it. Not only did I not buy my nieces black dolls but any other child that I bought gifts for.
Even when I gave gifts to the needy for Christmas, and the girls ask for dolls guess what color they got? Did not matter to me what color the family was that we were getting the doll for.
My sisters daughter from when she could start talking and raise her first for the black power stance we always said and say to her. Who are you?!! She would yell and raise her fist and say. I am a strong black woman"!!!! Even today she will say I want to be like nana (that is me!) she wanted her hair cut off because she no longer wanted the relaxer my sister kept putting in her hair. The girl wanted a BC. Yes, she got it but not before we had a loooong talk and explained that people were going to give their opinions family and strangers alike, but it did not matter because this is what she wanted and ........"She was a strong black woman!"
The girl has a lot of confidence to be only 11 and she will hold her opinion and give it with the best of them. Not in an arrogant fashion but you best believe you will know what she is thinking.
We talk about everything and anything and she will even call me now that she no longer lives with me to just talk about things in general. She is coming upon the months of womanhood (menstural) and nothing is off topic. She will ask questions or want answers to things that from a cultural standpoint for other races she may not understand. The girl is loved by her non black friends because she treats them like everybody else but they know she won't take no mess from them if they want to go racial or start doing the comparison stuff about hair, skin color, etc..
It has been a long road but this is one little lady that I am not worried about because inferiority about her hair is not an issue nor her skin color we determined that at a young age the girls in our family we had any influence over were not going to be dealing with issues such as this because life was going to be difficult enough. We tell her all the time she is ours, she is beautiful and she is.....A Strong Black Woman!!!
Question for the folks who have posted thus far in this thread...
Do you think wanting to have straight hair is symptomatic of self hatred? Or is it only self hatred in a certain context?
Personally, I think it's self hatred if you want straight hair BECAUSE you think your natural hair just isn't as good. And I think that that's what's going on with a lot of little Black girls. It's not just that they like the look of straight hair and enjoy having it, but that they think that they are less than for not having it.
I prefer to have my hair relaxed/texlaxed. Not because I don't like my natural hair (I've seen my curl pattern, it's really quite lovely), but because I love having the current length and don't want to whack it off!!!
However, I realize that if I do make a choice to wear my hair straight, I'll have to do some explaining to my future daughter for sure. And that's going to be tough. How do you explain to a child that you should love what you have but how you wear it is a personal choice of expression?
I guess it's about making sure that they understand that they don't HAVE to look one certain way to be considered beautiful.
That's beautiful. My daughter knows when I say "say it LOUD" she screams "IM BLACK AND IM BROWN!!!" I taught it to her one day when she was babbling something about white. Oh yeah on the train she had just come back from seeing her dad and she looked at me like I was an alien and said "mommy you're black!" Im like you just noticed?
The way I will answer that is, yes. It is self hatred because at the age of a young child, they don't have to do their hair. All they're doing is looking around and seeing what's around them and wanting to be like what they think is better than themselves. So it has nothing to do with ease of hair because they don't know what it's like to have to do their hair at that point.
My daughter is 3 and is going through this right now. It's very hard for her not to notice when she is the only black girl EVERYWHERE. She's noticing that she's different and although she sees me and daddy and my mom and her aunts and uncles it still seems to bother her that she's not white. She tells me "Mommy, I want to look like her on the tv" (pointing to a white girl). I tell her "Honey, you're beautiful just the way you are and complement her skin and hair, etc. She started crying and saying she wanted to look like the girl. She also says she wants to have straight hair like Grandma (My MIL is white) I tell her her hair is curly like mine and beautiful. Perfect just the way it is. My MIL tells her that grandma is the only one in the house with straight hair and she wishes she had curly hair like everyone else because curly hair is so beautiful.
My child has mostly white dolls. Not by choice but because we can't find any black dolls where we live. It's sad. My MIL found a black Barbie (DD's new favorite thing) with beautiful curly hair just like my daughter and bought it for her. She gets it because she went through this with her own children that are biracial.
My child is the only black child in her whole dance class. Our first day there we were saying hello to some of the parents and children. DD has a Brobee backpack that she brings he ballet shoes in. A little girl was admiring it and then turns to her mother and says "Mommy, is she a black?". I think that might be where it all started. My daughter is very smart and very observant and since then (This happened her first day) we've had a lot of talks about skin and hair. All of her cousins are white (we only see MIL's side of the family. FIL's is in a different state) and while they adore each other, I think it gets to her a bit.
My child can also be a bit concieted and will say "Mommy, don't I look cute? Look my hair is curly, like yours" (this is why I went natural) but I don't care.DH and I complement her all the time about her beautiful her hair is and gorgeous her skin is. I rather have my child be overly confident than to have low self esteem. She still has moments when she says she wants to be white but I'm building her confidence in her own looks as much as I can.
This is why I wished we were back in NY. Here in MN there's not much diversity (atleast where we live. and the neighborhoods that have people of color tend to be pretty bad neighborhoods).I figured we'd have this conversation eventually but not at 3 years old.
Sorry, this is a jumbled mess of thoughts. It's just been a really hot topic in our house recently.
I hate to say this, but mom, you need to seek out more black images for her. In the days of the internet, you have no excuse. I couldn't find the black holiday barbie for DD, so what did I do? I ordered it online directly from Mattel. I asked ladies on this board for book recommendations with black characters. When I couldn't find them, I ordered directly from barnes & noble online.
I also think you should be more diligent about finding at least one other black child for her to play with. DD might be the only black girl in her class at school, but she goes to Sunday school and plays with other black children. I know that may be challenging for you based on your location, but you have to try.
I've heard these stories from moms here and IRL, and I think that as mothers, we have to be more proactive.
I hate to say this, but mom, you need to seek out more black images for her. In the days of the internet, you have no excuse. I couldn't find the black holiday barbie for DD, so what did I do? I ordered it online directly from Mattel. I asked ladies on this board for book recommendations with black characters. When I couldn't find them, I ordered directly from barnes & noble online.
I also think you should be more diligent about finding at least one other black child for her to play with. DD might be the only black girl in her class at school, but she goes to Sunday school and plays with other black children. I know that may be challenging for you based on your location, but you have to try.
I've heard these stories from moms here and IRL, and I think that as mothers, we have to be more proactive.
I live in Minnesota, as well, and there are definitely opportunities to expose your child to other African Americans, African American culture, etc. You just have to be more proactive here in seeking them out.
Where? We're no where near the cities and that's the only place that I know there's a lot of diversity.