Ladies what is your stance on psychics?

[**Tasha*Love**]

Shimmie, thank you for your words of wisdom. I knew when I read this part of your post God was going to deliver a powerful message for us to hear:

It's interesting and fascinating how God moves. I had been avoiding this thread topic. God knows how I don't like it, for I have not only lived it, but satan loves to 'fight' with this issue, and I was simply not in the mood. But God gave me this scripture this morning and it is so on time.

Those things that we wrestle with the most are the same things that bring God the most Glory.

You made a another PROFOUND statement here:

What occurred to you in Church, only God can tell you. Only God. I believe that the Pastors were operating under the 'gift's of the Spirit, but often, our flesh gets in the way and we miss God. One thing I will tell you is that God does not want us to become dependent upon having 'a word' spoken to us and over us.

We STILL and we MUST be able to walk by faith and to be able to rightly discern God's direction for our lives. What happens is that the Prophets become our God. People will depend upon hearing 'a word' spoken over them and not seek God for themselves. It's not a sin to have a prophetic word spoken over you, but many times God will say, 'enough', come know me for yourself. God wants to speak into our lives. And He will.... Just ask.

People are just 'fools' these days. They say they are Christians and the stuff that they believe in and support is so off the wall, that you wonder if another god has arisen. And literally, another god has, it's satan. And what satan is doing is using those who profess to be God loving Christians, as his tools to lead others astray; others who have not taken time to 'know' God for themselves.

I have noticed in the past few years when watching TV or listening to the radio that every ministry conference has someone speaking that will deliver a PROPHETIC word! My spirit would become really unsettled every time I would hear an announcement about all of these prophets. There is nothing wrong with receiving a prophetic word but I believe that Christians are turning to people instead of God for answers. Its like everyone is hanging on to the end of their seats waiting to hear what the next prophet has to say about their life and future. Why not trust God? I guess that is why my spirit was always so unsettled when I would read my astrology. I knew that I was wrong but I was hooked until this week. Haven't even read it or thought about it. This may sound small to some but believe me its a MAJOR step for me.

You also spoke on the voice of a stranger versus that of God. When I with the psychic it seemed evil. Her voice was harsh and dark and there was something about her eyes. I paid for an hour session but eventually I could tell that she wanted to end it sooner. Her face began to tighten up and her words were minced. She was not like when we first started talking, maybe she sensed something? I may have made her uneasy because I just sat there and I couldn't form any words or thoughts so she began to talk. She was telling me things that were true but I was thinking "would God really allow her to know this about me?". If God and I are friends and I get a sense of darkness about this person I don't think he would let her know me like this???

I am rambling at this point but thank you Shimmie for your wisdom. See its that "Seasoning" that makes you wise.

 

[Shimmie]

Shimmie, thank you for your words of wisdom. I knew when I read this part of your post God was going to deliver a powerful message for us to hear:

Those things that we wrestle with the most are the same things that bring God the most Glory.

You made a another PROFOUND statement here:

I have noticed in the past few years when watching TV or listening to the radio that every ministry conference has someone speaking that will deliver a PROPHETIC word! My spirit would become really unsettled every time I would hear an announcement about all of these prophets. There is nothing wrong with receiving a prophetic word but I believe that Christians are turning to people instead of God for answers. Its like everyone is hanging on to the end of their seats waiting to hear what the next prophet has to say about their life and future. Why not trust God? I guess that is why my spirit was always so unsettled when I would read my astrology. I knew that I was wrong but I was hooked until this week. Haven't even read it or thought about it. This may sound small to some but believe me its a MAJOR step for me.

You also spoke on the voice of a stranger versus that of God. When I with the psychic it seemed evil. Her voice was harsh and dark and there was something about her eyes. I paid for an hour session but eventually I could tell that she wanted to end it sooner. Her face began to tighten up and her words were minced. She was not like when we first started talking, maybe she sensed something? I may have made her uneasy because I just sat there and I couldn't form any words or thoughts so she began to talk. She was telling me things that were true but I was thinking "would God really allow her to know this about me?". If God and I are friends and I get a sense of darkness about this person I don't think he would let her know me like this???

I am rambling at this point but thank you Shimmie for your wisdom. See its that "Seasoning" that makes you wise.

You are right on target, Natasha

You know I used to study astrology. I had books and books on it and I could name just about all of the inward studies of it. I even 'studied' how to chart horoscopes. One of my (PAST) favorite astrologers was Sidney Omarr. I also 'read' people. But it was God's gift of the prophetic being mis-used. I didn't know that satan was using what God has placed in me for God's glory and not his.

Plus, it always left me dry and empty; I was always 'missing' something and I was very empty and always sad. Nothing I did outside of God fulfilled me until I fully received our Lord Jesus Christ. God had His hand upon me the entire time, I just didn't 'know' it. Sometimes we have to know the bad before we can appreciate the ultimate of Good whom God is. Now that I know the love of Jesus, I can never go back. I just can't. Even when 'Shimmie' is in her 'flesh', fussing and disagreeing up a storm, God has a way of getting a hold of me, and just making me fully aware of Him and not the issues. Then I 'fuss' with the Lord.

We have to know God. We have to. The devil is out here deceiving so many people and messing up their lives. I've never seen so much confusion. People say they love Jesus Christ and yet their 'fruit' shows or says otherwise and they don't even see it.

I can remember when it was time for me to tie my shoes without 'Mommie' helping me. I got it 'twisted' and knotted, or they would get loose, but eventually I learned how to tie my shoes by myself.

Now they have 'Vel-Cro' Gee! Who knew?

God bless you Natasha Each day I grow more and more and each day, I wish it were as easy as Vel-Cro, but God wants us to learn how to tie our shoes. Afterall, we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us.

 

[GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I]

The first commandment...to love the L-rd your G-d with all your heart, mind and soul. We must trust in His providence. There have been psychics that have tried to tell me something similiar. I know that it's G-d in whom I must trust. Even prophets...you have to be careful. It's so easy to fall for them when you are hurting, tired, spiritually hungry. What I'd suggest is to leave those be and not consult them at all. It's a sin (psychics). And there have been so many religious that have abused their congregations, leaving people dry and miserable. Get alone with G-d and pray unceasingly and He will tell you you need to do. Keep asking...never stop.

 

[Shimmie]

The first commandment...to love the L-rd your G-d with all your heart, mind and soul. We must trust in His providence. There have been psychics that have tried to tell me something similiar. I know that it's G-d in whom I must trust. Even prophets...you have to be careful. It's so easy to fall for them when you are hurting, tired, spiritually hungry.

What I'd suggest is to leave those be and not consult them at all. It's a sin (psychics).

And there have been so many religious that have abused their congregations, leaving people dry and miserable. Get alone with G-d and pray unceasingly and He will tell you you need to do. Keep asking...never stop.

Amen, Angel......... Amen.

Pray without ceasing.

There's just too much to 'tell' on this subject, way too much. But the best way to know is by staying in prayer and allowing the Holy Spirit to speak to your heart.

In all of my life as a Christian, the Lord has only allowed two major Prophets speak to me. And I know why. It was for me to know Him through Him and not through man.

I love this scripture from the book of I Kings 19:11-13. Please read the entire chapter when you have a chance.

11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD.

And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD;

but the LORD was not in the wind:

and after the wind an earthquake;

but the LORD was not in the earthquake:

12 And after the earthquake a fire;

but the LORD was not in the fire:

and after the fire a STILL SMALL VOICE.

13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it,

that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?

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This scripture minsters to me so deeply. Our 'flesh' always seeks a grand stand to hear from God. But when we allow ourselves to bypass the destractions, we will here God deep down in our heart, our spirit, in that 'Still Small Voice' which is always there, waiting for us to listen and hear Him speak.

God's voice, is not in the obvious, but yet it is obvious when we listen.

Praise the name of Jesus....... Praise God, Praise and Bless His holy matchless name. In Jesus's Name, Amen and Amen.

 

[GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I]

God's voice, is not in the obvious, but yet it is obvious when we listen.

Yes, indeed. He used Moses who had a speech impediment. I began peeing back the layers for several years now and G-d has been there to help me keep focuses. To some, my religious choice is a chain about the neck. But it's in that tradition and obedience that the simplicity of life is being found. We make things so very complicated and yet, we think G-d himself should be so very simplistic as though He is not omniscient. We should be simplistic and allow Him to be so very complicated in what He does for our lives. It's not believing everything without questions ...He didn't give us a brain like that. But oftentimes there is coming to understanding through struggling. Jacob becomes Israel by wrestling with G-d.

There have been some very supernatural events happening to me all throughout my life and I'd rarely told my parents or others close to me. I just usually didn'tt since I knew that they wouldn't comprehend that that was how G-d speaks to me. I think it takes time to figure out whether what a "prophet" says is truth. That's why I say to leave it all alone when you are searching for peace. I did get caught up in that stuff years ago and it nearly destroyed my life. G-d sent me elsewhere and it took years, but I've finally found the truth.

 

[Shimmie]

Awesome post, hwiseman.... I placed my answers within your post in red bolded.

Yes, indeed. He used Moses who had a speech impediment. I began peeing back the layers for several years now and G-d has been there to help me keep focuses.

To some, my religious choice is a chain about the neck.

Yet, Jesus said, "Take my 'yoke' for it is easy...." ;

But it's in that tradition and obedience that the simplicity of life is being found. We make things so very complicated and yet, we think G-d himself should be so very simplistic as though He is not omniscient.

We should be simplistic and allow Him to be so very complicated in what He does for our lives. It's not believing everything without questions ...He didn't give us a brain like that. But oftentimes there is coming to understanding through struggling. Jacob becomes Israel by wrestling with G-d.

Amen, Jacob said to the 'angel' of the Lord, "I will not let you go until you bless me."

There have been some very supernatural events happening to me all throughout my life and I'd rarely told my parents or others close to me. I just usually didn'tt since I knew that they wouldn't comprehend that that was how G-d speaks to me. I think it takes time to figure out whether what a "prophet" says is truth.

It does take time, but it's worth it. It eliminates confusion and gives us substantial power over the enemy.

That's why I say to leave it all alone when you are searching for peace. I did get caught up in that stuff years ago and it nearly destroyed my life. G-d sent me elsewhere and it took years, but I've finally found the truth.

Whew! Your entire post.... awesome testimony unto the Lord. You are making Him so happy, because you have placed your trust in Him and not in man.

Hugs and blessings to you....

Shimmie is still growing in the Lord.....

 

[kally]

I grew up the same way and think they exist. My faith however is in God in heaven and Jesus Christ.

 

[GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I]

Whew! Your entire post.... awesome testimony unto the Lord. You are making Him so happy, because you have placed your trust in Him and not in man.

Hugs and blessings to you....

Shimmie is still growing in the Lord.....

I'm trying. It's not easy in my community but I know there is only 1 G-d. I'm just trying to live well and let the rest speak for itself. I'm often imperfect . But anyway......

 

[aribell]

Yes, indeed. He used Moses who had a speech impediment. I began peeing back the layers for several years now and G-d has been there to help me keep focuses. To some, my religious choice is a chain about the neck. But it's in that tradition and obedience that the simplicity of life is being found. We make things so very complicated and yet, we think G-d himself should be so very simplistic as though He is not omniscient. We should be simplistic and allow Him to be so very complicated in what He does for our lives. It's not believing everything without questions ...He didn't give us a brain like that. But oftentimes there is coming to understanding through struggling. Jacob becomes Israel by wrestling with G-d.

I love that story of Jacob struggling with the Lord because that really is so much of what walking with the Lord is about. I'm so happy that people have been willing to share their perspective and experiences in this thread because, truly, prophecy and the supernatural (and flesh v. spirit) are things which I have been struggling with spiritually for almost 2 years. But I sensed throughout that journey that the Lord was trying to teach me something that I would only be able to understand fully if I walked through it.

From those lessons I can also, as Shimmie and Hwiseman said, attest to the fact that the only thing needful is to submit to the Holy Spirit, and to seek Him alone. A friend of mine and I erred a while back in seeking too much knowledge for ourselves, which is what psychic phenomena and fleshly prophecy can become about. Unwilling to wholly depend on the Lord, and growing impatient in waiting on Him, I was seeking after knowledge and understanding that I could get for myself. It can be a subtle thing.

As far as the church that I went to is concerned, I think that is an issue of the flesh being prevalent in the use of the genuine gift. In thinking about it more, I realized that what has always seemed off is that those pastors seem to be ultimately concerned with building their church, and their ability to speak a word over people is center stage, which should not be what draws people to a church.

 

[mrselle]

I would love a straightforward general answer to this as well.

I've always been told that prophecy is confirmation for something that God has already spoken to you. So in other words, when someone is truly prophesying to you, what they say isn't going to be a shock to you. God will have already placed what they are speaking in your heart.

I've only had to people prophesy to me...my prayer partner and my former pastor. Both of them spoke to me about things I hadn't shared with anyone but God, so what they told me could have only been from God. Others have tried to speak into my life and what they said didn't sit right in my spirit.

 

[Shimmie]

I've always been told that prophecy is confirmation for something that God has already spoken to you. So in other words, when someone is truly prophesying to you, what they say isn't going to be a shock to you. God will have already placed what they are speaking in your heart.

I've only had to people prophesy to me...my prayer partner and my former pastor. Both of them spoke to me about things I hadn't shared with anyone but God, so what they told me could have only been from God. Others have tried to speak into my life and what they said didn't sit right in my spirit.

So True, Mrselle, so true. You are blessed in many ways, but the one reason you 'knew' this prophesy to be true, is because you are 'seasoned' with the voice of the Holy Spirit.

And it's so critical to 'know' His voice; for even a pychic can speak of things which only you (speaking 'you' in general) know about, for 'familiar spirits' are in operation who are 'familiar' with your life. They are reading our actions, so even when we don't 'speak' vocally what we going through, the enemy is still making note of the events surrounding your life and how you 'privately' respond to them.

Prophesy goes beyond giving a 'personal' word to someone. Prophets are sent by God to forwarn the "Church" of what's to come. We've seen many prophet within the koolaide bunch, with their 'weird' predictions and all that came about were false notions. But even as seasoned humans who know and flow with God, we still operate 'in the flesh', we can still hit or miss when giving a 'word' from the Lord.

We have to have that 'knowing' --- knowing the difference between His voice and that of humans. No matter how close or accurate they are, we still have to know the difference between that of man and that of the Holy Spirit. All is takes is a bad day in traffic, argument with a spouse, boss or challenge with a child, a human can miss it and be off by a hair.

We can get so 'caught up' in the accuracy initially of a prophetic word, and then miss the rest of the message which may have error. But because of the Holy Spirit, we will be able to tell the difference, if the words should go off track, even the slightest. That' one word can make us or break us.

God bless you, and I'm in admiration of your walk with the Lord. It strengthens my walk all the more.

 

[mrselle]

So True, Mrselle, so true. You are blessed in many ways, but the one reason you 'knew' this prophesy to be true, is because you are 'seasoned' with the voice of the Holy Spirit.

And it's so critical to 'know' His voice; for even a pychic can speak of things which only you (speaking 'you' in general) know about, for 'familiar spirits' are in operation who are 'familiar' with your life. They are reading our actions, so even when we don't 'speak' vocally what we going through, the enemy is still making note of the events surrounding your life and how you 'privately' respond to them.

Prophesy goes beyond giving a 'personal' word to someone. Prophets are sent by God to forwarn the "Church" of what's to come. We've seen many prophet within the koolaide bunch, with their 'weird' predictions and all that came about were false notions. But even as seasoned humans who know and flow with God, we still operate 'in the flesh', we can still hit or miss when giving a 'word' from the Lord.

We have to have that 'knowing' --- knowing the difference between His voice and that of humans. No matter how close or accurate they are, we still have to know the difference between that of man and that of the Holy Spirit. All is takes is a bad day in traffic, argument with a spouse, boss or challenge with a child, a human can miss it and be off by a hair.

We can get so 'caught up' in the accuracy initially of a prophetic word, and then miss the rest of the message which may have error. But because of the Holy Spirit, we will be able to tell the difference, if the words should go off track, even the slightest. That' one word can make us or break us.

God bless you, and I'm in admiration of your walk with the Lord. It strengthens my walk all the more.

Thank you, Shimmie for your kind words. Somehow your words want me to walk that much closer with God. You have such an encouraging spirit that I really admire and appreciate.

You are absolutely right…we do have to be able to discern the voice of the Holy Spirit and the voice of humans. There have been times when my friend and prayer partner spoke some things to me and it was clear that while some of it was from the Holy Spirit, some of it was *her* own thoughts and feelings. God had to use those situations to show me that I don’t have to go to someone else to get HIM to hear my prayer; I can pray to HIM all by myself and HE still hears me. It also taught me that there are certain things that God will speak to me that I shouldn’t share with others, no matter how much of a trusted friend they are.

 

[Shimmie]

Thank you, Shimmie for your kind words. Somehow your words want me to walk that much closer with God. You have such an encouraging spirit that I really admire and appreciate.

You are absolutely right…we do have to be able to discern the voice of the Holy Spirit and the voice of humans.

There have been times when my friend and prayer partner spoke some things to me and it was clear that while some of it was from the Holy Spirit, some of it was *her* own thoughts and feelings.

God had to use those situations to show me that I don’t have to go to someone else to get HIM to hear my prayer; I can pray to HIM all by myself and HE still hears me. It also taught me that there are certain things that God will speak to me that I shouldn’t share with others, no matter how much of a trusted friend they are.

That's because we 'love' each other and as sisters we seek to encourage one another. It's as natural as breathing to us to speak words of our own to encourage those whom we love.

However, we can speak things over our lives, another gift of the prophetic. God gave this to us.

I so agree with wanting to get closer to the Lord. Lately, I've been 'clinging' to the Lord. And it's a wonderful place to be.

Mselle, I'm still being blessed by you. One day, I will share in detail. Have a beautiful thanksgiving. I mean it with all of my heart.

 

[mrselle]

Mselle, I'm still being blessed by you. One day, I will share in detail. Have a beautiful thanksgiving. I mean it with all of my heart.

And I have been blessed by you. I can't wait for you to share, but I know that you will do it at the appointed time. ;0)

I hope you have a beautiful Thanksgiving too.

 

[firecracker]

I don't believe in that madness. No offense to whomever does. As a Christian only God knows what my future holds because he planned it all out. What some crystal ball looking card laying lifeline hand looker gon tell me bout me? Yeah I went really countrified on that last sentence. I worked in Hollywood where a bunch of fakes were ripping folks off for money looking for miracles, healing, etc. OOOOKKKKKKKKKK whateva gypsy woman

 

[chicacanella]

I don't believe in going to phsychics cause' I am a child of the most high God and if I want to know anything, I can open my bible or pray to God and receive revelation by the holy spirit.

Regarding pyschics telling the truth i.e. sunshine Yellow's experience:

there was an apostle in the bible, can't remember his name but this girl who had a familiar spirit on her was going through the town saying, "These men are ......." The apostle rebuked her but what was the reason behind her doing this; she wanted to gain their attention through initially telling the truth but really was only saying what they alread knew to be true. She was trying to captivate them into her web or I should say, they were trying to captivate the apostle.

 

[rayness]

Speaking from experience don't even get involved with that stuff. I will not go into details but trust me you don't even want to deal with psychics and all of the other things that it brings upon you. Especially if you are a Christian and believe in God.

 

[aribell]

Reading over this again, and am still perplexed.

Off to start a spinoff...

 

[topsyturvy86]

Reading over this again, and am still perplexed.

Off to start a spinoff...

What perplexes you hun?

-------------------------> Ok, just saw ur spinoff.

 

[divya]

My position on the gift of prophecy has been formed through being taught the following Scriptural tests. (posted this in the spinoff thread as well).

The Scriptures give numerous tests or identifying marks of a prophet. When we take a close look at these tests/marks, psychics fail:


Test Number 1: Deuteronomy 18:21-22
"And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

Test Number 2: Numbers 12:6
"And he said, hear now my words: if there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream."

Test Number 3: Numbers 24:4 & 16
"He hath said, which heard the words of God, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open...He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:"

Test Number 4: Daniel 10:17
"For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me."

Test Number 5: Daniel 10:18
"Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me."

Test Number 6: Jeremiah 28:9
"The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him."

Test Number 7: 2 Peter 1:20
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

Test Number 8: 2 Peter 1:21
"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

Test Number 9: 1 Corinthians 14:3
"But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort."

Test Number 10: Isaiah 8:19-20
"And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

Test Number 11: 1 John 4:1-3
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they, are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is in the world."

Test Number 12: Matthew 7:15-16
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. . ."

 

[Laela]

I agree wholeheartedly...

We are to avoid all works of the flesh - and this includes sorcery/psychics (Galations 5:20) (Deutoronomy 18: 9-13)

Christians are to have no part of them - these are an abomination to the Lord.

This is one of the ways people become posessed because those works can open up your spirit to demonic attack.

 

[topsyturvy86]

I've enjoyed reading all of you ladies posts.

I do have a question though..is it a general consenus that all people who call themselves psychic are receiving messages from satan?

What about people who have received images from the future or impressions about people/events since childhood? Or what about people who ARE definitely Christians and who do not exalt themselves over God, but say that their images/messages are from God? Am I making sense ?

The reason I ask this is because my mother is a very spiritual person and she is very much a Christian. Since she was a child she was a "seer" you can say, and she often receives impressions about people pr events that come to pass.

She also has a friend who is a minister, and is most definitely gifted with prophetic powers. She preaches from the Bible. I know that she used to use tarot many years ago, and others things in the past, but has renounced such practices for years, because she did realize that they were not of God, and openly stated that she does not touch that type of stuff anymore.

What is the difference between the gift of prophecy, and "psychics"? How can you tell the difference?

When I say psychic, I'm not talking about tarot users, or folks who have those shops, or people who try to rob other's money and lead them astray. I mean people who truly do receive images about the future (from God) and use them to help guide.

I am currently reading the Bible for myself, I've never read it in entirety before, so I am far from a scholar, and I'm unsure about many things. Maybe I am confused about the term "prophet."

TIA

Interesting question. I hope someone will respond to this that has better knowledge on the gift of prophecy. What i''ll say is psychic isn't the right word for what you're describing although I can't suggest a better word ... perhaps they have a sensitive spirit?

I think I have a very sensitive spirit and i've never been 'psychic' or practiced anything dodgy. I have a feeling in my spirit when things are about to happen before there are any physical signs of it ... it's as if I just know. Before my ex and I broke up, things were perfect .. we were very in love and very connected. I was out shopping for lingerie for us to celebrate something that happened in his life one day and I just knew it was going to be a waste of money because we wouldn't make it until then (the following weekend or so). Why, I don't know. (I must add that i wasn't a committed Christian then. I've been able to 'feel/know' things before I became a committed Christian - although I was a fair weather Christian). The job I recently got happened really fast and kind of took me by surprise but I had been feeling in my spirit before then that something big and good was coming my way and urged to pray with authority before anything even happened. In church I think the Sunday before I got the call, I was feeling a pushing in my spirit ... like something welling up and I didn't understand it and then tried to put words to the feelings and what came out was authority. That I need to take authority and pray with authority and sureness/strong confidence, something like that. If you read my testimony, you would see why I needed to do that eventually. I didn't understand it at the time. I usually know when something unpleasant is going to happen in the day, I feel an anxiety and unrest in my spirit and it happens and i'm like, oh that's why and the feeling relieves me. I feel things in my spirit very often. Lately i've started dreaming ... I dream things and they come to pass. Not in the exact way it happened in my dream but the feeling and emotions are the same and when it happens I then understand why the setting was so in my dream. I can only feel and dream things about myself and my life though, not about others except my immidiate family but only occassionally. I pray about something and I dream the end result and it happens that way/close - the emotions/implications are usually the same.

I have been meaning to speak to someone about this for a while but wasn't sure so i'm really hoping someone chips in.

 

[Jynlnd13]

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[Laela]

I was about to respond to your other thread...now I'm reading this post, I see why you were attacked in your sleep. .. demons really don't attack unless they have a legal right to do so, IOW, they got an "in" .

Last month, they got an in to attack you, because you knowingly exposed yourself to the darkness.

I'd once been attacked the way you described in your sleep attack thread, after watching a movie with witchcraft in it. Woke up to the bed shaking and I was physically orgasmic. It was a jarring experience and I asked God for forgiveness. I am now more vigilant about what I let into my "gates" (eyes, ear, mouth)

Your sleep paralysis was likely an attack by Incubus.. I pray for you deliverance from this foul spirit... There is deliverance and I'm glad you called on the name of Jesus!

Also, please remember, the kingdom of darkness has power, too. There are people who can see into the future, because Satan gave them that power.

God's power is a result of prayer and faith and it's never used for entertainment, but for restoration and healing. It doesn't come with a fee attached. We are to be always be prayerful and discerning in our spirit to be able to see the difference because Satan can present himself as an angel of Light. God always wants the best for us, the Angel of Light wants the opposite and seeks to destroy us.

Wow great thread. I got my "palm read" last month when I was in New York. I fully believe and trust in God. But my friend was getting her's done, and I thought why not, let's see if these people really know anything. Well, with my friend she was spot on with her, and said someone was practicing Black Magic on her, to try to ruin her love life..my friend was so freaked out she made me pray for her and bless the apartment when we got home. My friend is very spiritual, but she is a "New Age" believer, she believes there is a God, but not that one is right over the other. This lady wanted to come to our apartment and do some kind of "cleanse" with candles and stuff, I was a guest at the apartment at the time, I didn't want to be there, I prefer not to get invovled in that kind of stuff. The lady never got to do it anyway because she we had to leave.

But with my "reading" she basically said things I already knew. I said a pray before she even touched me. I know it is wrong, but I wasn't seeking her for answers. I already know God is my answer. I just wanted to see she had to say about me. I got cards done too, but she wouldn't read them to me, ripped me off $25. She kept saying, I won't read these to you because they don't matter right now, just listen to what I'm telling you to do... I was thinking um but I just paid you $25..?

After I got it done though I couldn't get what she said out of my head, I just kept thinking about it. But I talked to God during this time and he has helped me through. Everything she said to me was positive. I don't plan to ever do anything like this again.

All of this is so interesting to me because, I can feel when things are near, when I was little I used to hear convos and no one was there, I saw an angel once in my room, and I had a few dreams come to pass. So it's really interesting. I know people can tell the future, I know God has blessed people with that gift. I think some people miss use it or abuse their gift.

 

[Jynlnd13]

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[Marhia]

I was about to respond to your other thread...now I'm reading this post, I see why you were attacked in your sleep. .. demons really don't attack unless they have a legal right to do so, IOW, they got an "in" .

Last month, they got an in to attack you, because you knowingly exposed yourself to the darkness.

I'd once been attacked the way you described in your sleep attack thread, after watching a movie with witchcraft in it. Woke up to the bed shaking and I was physically orgasmic. It was a jarring experience and I asked God for forgiveness. I am now more vigilant about what I let into my "gates" (eyes, ear, mouth)

Your sleep paralysis was likely an attack by Incubus.. I pray for you deliverance from this foul spirit... There is deliverance and I'm glad you called on the name of Jesus!

Also, please remember, the kingdom of darkness has power, too. There are people who can see into the future, because Satan gave them that power.

God's power is a result of prayer and faith and it's never used for entertainment, but for restoration and healing. It doesn't come with a fee attached. We are to be always be prayerful and discerning in our spirit to be able to see the difference because Satan can present himself as an angel of Light. God always wants the best for us, the Angel of Light wants the opposite and seeks to destroy us.

Wow thanks for that response right there.

 

[8HoursFromHome]

I know that there are people that 'know' things. When I lived in FL, I was left in a room with a blind man. Surprisingly, he wanted to play cards, or so I thought. He asked me to shuffle the cards so I did. He proceeded to flip over cards and 'read' them. He told me that I was already pregnant with a boy and that he would have a very rough start to his life. He told me some other things but I wasn't really listening.

What he told me came to fruition. When he initially gave me this info, I tossed it to the side thinking he was nuts. Nowadays, I think about him from time to time trying to remember the other things he told me.

 

[SvelteVelvet]

First time reading this thread. Lot's of great knowledge in here. I've gone through my own struggles in the past with seeing psychics. What Shimmie mentioned about the agreeance and "opening yourself up" made so much sense.

Even though I've grown spiritually, there are times I still get tempted for confirmation that what I'm feeling is right. I understand fully how it's a trap of the enemy to try to lead me away from God's purpose for situations crossing (or re-crossing) my path. I'll have a "knowing" about whatever it is already. It wasn't, I don't know what's going on, tell me what's going on. It was, I'm pretty sure I know what's going on, but what if I'm wrong? Let me ask...

Either way, it's not trusting God. I believe it is God in me that allows me to know the things I know, so to entertain someone to tell me something different truly is opening up the door to confusion. Because we feel what we feel for a reason and that feeling won't go away simply because of something we hear. But once we've entertained it by listening to it and something said conflicts with your feelings an internal battle begins.

I see how people can fall into the trap. But being intune with God through Christ and the Holy Spirit and His word pays off soo much better. That faith and understanding in the midst is worth so much more, it is so much more powerful than someone speaking something to you and you knowing it in your head for some time. God lets you know exactly WHEN you need to know it, not a moment too soon, or too late for positive outcomes.

Well anyway, after all that, I really just came in here to say that earlier this year I had a revelation that seeing psychics is much like the tree of knowledge of good and evil satan tricked Eve into eating from. It was the same promise. "You will be as gods and know everything." In the same manner, it can cause a separation in our relationship with God and the life He wants for us should we make choices based on that 'knowledge' that goes against His will. God want us to trust in Him with all our hearts and in all our ways acknowledge Him and He'll direct our paths.

So today I say, don't give into anything else trying to lead you but God. He's the only one you can trust that won't steer your wrong. Always pray to God about prophecies in church settings as well. He'll always reveal the truth to you. Always.

 

[Poohbear]

Laela, that jesus-is-lord site about Incubus was quite interesting but do you know where the name Incubus came from and how they know that is the name of this particular devil? I did a keyword search in the Bible on biblegateway.com and there was no such thing in the Bible.

I was about to respond to your other thread...now I'm reading this post, I see why you were attacked in your sleep. .. demons really don't attack unless they have a legal right to do so, IOW, they got an "in" .

Last month, they got an in to attack you, because you knowingly exposed yourself to the darkness.

I'd once been attacked the way you described in your sleep attack thread, after watching a movie with witchcraft in it. Woke up to the bed shaking and I was physically orgasmic. It was a jarring experience and I asked God for forgiveness. I am now more vigilant about what I let into my "gates" (eyes, ear, mouth)

Your sleep paralysis was likely an attack by Incubus.. I pray for you deliverance from this foul spirit... There is deliverance and I'm glad you called on the name of Jesus!

Also, please remember, the kingdom of darkness has power, too. There are people who can see into the future, because Satan gave them that power.

God's power is a result of prayer and faith and it's never used for entertainment, but for restoration and healing. It doesn't come with a fee attached. We are to be always be prayerful and discerning in our spirit to be able to see the difference because Satan can present himself as an angel of Light. God always wants the best for us, the Angel of Light wants the opposite and seeks to destroy us.