sexyeyes3616
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I just wanted to start by saying I am a Christian. Growing up I was always taught that psychics are of the devil. Do you all believe this to be true? Please share your opinions.
Ladies what is your stance on psychics?
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Highly Favored8
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Highly Favored8
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I am going out on a limb on this one
I am reading a book called "In the Pursuit of Peace" By Joyce Meyer
In this book she speaks of people who call psychics- That for one thing they do not know the future no one knows our Alpha and Omega in our lives Only God knows.
When a child of God seeks out these psychics then they lost total trust in God! B/c now they put their trust in man and where does this man really get their information from. She was saying in her book I am paraphrasing
That demons and satan watch and hear God's Children all of the time so when a child of God might get discouraged about what is going on in their lives they seek these pyschics and leave saying WOW they know every thing about me Why? B/c demons whispered into the ears of the psychics about you.
I also say this Saul lost his Crown to David b/c he Stopped Trusting in God and put his trust in these readers. Then their is King Nechabezzner (SP?) experience for people who trust more in the pychics than in God. They're Grave consequences in this. For the Bible is very clear on this, I mean very clear.
We cannot know our future or what lies ahead it is just too much for us to bear. If we knew it all then why do we need to have Faith? So, by not trusting in psychics and just Trusting in God we walk by faith and stand on his Word and his promises. For every problem man has the Bible has the answer.
Too me also psychics exalt themselves aganist God and Place themselves higher than God! Who else does that? satan so, also, if a person trusts in the psychics and not God then the person trusting in the psychic leans towards their own understanding. God says no do not do that.
Know a person calls a psychic and they say these things and it turns out to be false, the Bibile forwarns on people who Bear False Witness and their word cannot be trusted.
The Point is Trust God , Trust God in all of your circumstances this is why God scriptures back him up! God is an awesome God.
Know the only thing I am confused about is
Prophets or Prophetess? Any answers? What is different between them and psychics?
I am reading a book called "In the Pursuit of Peace" By Joyce Meyer
In this book she speaks of people who call psychics- That for one thing they do not know the future no one knows our Alpha and Omega in our lives Only God knows.
When a child of God seeks out these psychics then they lost total trust in God! B/c now they put their trust in man and where does this man really get their information from. She was saying in her book I am paraphrasing
That demons and satan watch and hear God's Children all of the time so when a child of God might get discouraged about what is going on in their lives they seek these pyschics and leave saying WOW they know every thing about me Why? B/c demons whispered into the ears of the psychics about you.
I also say this Saul lost his Crown to David b/c he Stopped Trusting in God and put his trust in these readers. Then their is King Nechabezzner (SP?) experience for people who trust more in the pychics than in God. They're Grave consequences in this. For the Bible is very clear on this, I mean very clear.
We cannot know our future or what lies ahead it is just too much for us to bear. If we knew it all then why do we need to have Faith? So, by not trusting in psychics and just Trusting in God we walk by faith and stand on his Word and his promises. For every problem man has the Bible has the answer.
Too me also psychics exalt themselves aganist God and Place themselves higher than God! Who else does that? satan so, also, if a person trusts in the psychics and not God then the person trusting in the psychic leans towards their own understanding. God says no do not do that.
Know a person calls a psychic and they say these things and it turns out to be false, the Bibile forwarns on people who Bear False Witness and their word cannot be trusted.
The Point is Trust God , Trust God in all of your circumstances this is why God scriptures back him up! God is an awesome God.
Know the only thing I am confused about is
Prophets or Prophetess? Any answers? What is different between them and psychics?
Farida
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I think the worry with psychic is where do they get their information? Discernment? The worry is it is from a dark force, unlike the prophets/prophetess of the bible who got their info from God.
I also get the sense that in the bible the prophecies were to serve God's purpose. To warn his people, teach them, give them hope. Unlike psychics where it is usually about what the person wants to know/hear.
I also get the sense that in the bible the prophecies were to serve God's purpose. To warn his people, teach them, give them hope. Unlike psychics where it is usually about what the person wants to know/hear.
momi
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We are to avoid all works of the flesh - and this includes sorcery/psychics (Galations 5:20) (Deutoronomy 18: 9-13)
Christians are to have no part of them - these are an abomination to the Lord.
This is one of the ways people become posessed because those works can open up your spirit to demonic attack.
Christians are to have no part of them - these are an abomination to the Lord.
This is one of the ways people become posessed because those works can open up your spirit to demonic attack.
sunshineyellow
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Earlier this year myself and girlfriend while visiting my kids in Arizona we decided to see a psychic, I have also had experiences with prophets before. In my visit with her there was nothing demonic about it that I could see. She told me I have absolute trust and faith in the God and I surrender easy to him which is why I have so much faith. She said you have prepared the ground work for many and helped alot of people along the way including my children, family and friends and God is ready to help me and I will never have to worry about finances again. But ladies not like you think winning the lottery or something else but because I see the big picture and have trust that God is there I am okay with what life brings to me there is no worry or stress. Even before I saw her I knew God was working in my life and something was changing and finances was not going to be a problem because he always comes thru. She said your abundance comes not from the riches of the world but from seeing thru Gods eyes truly enjoying life's simple pleasures which is so true so no matter where I wake up at in life I am okay with it.
What she told my girlfriend...she needs to let of the fear in her life let go and let God (she lives with tons of fear not enough money, homeless, being alone for the rest of her life)...She spoke of her having a sad heart because she thinks she is not worthy of Gods love (so very true her heart is litterally breaking because she does not think she is worthy of anything and twice and once since I have known her she has been in the hospital with all body functions shutting down because she thinks she deserved to die for whatever reason). She said she needs to know that Gods loves her just like he loves everyone and she needs to learn to accept that.
What she told my girlfriend...she needs to let of the fear in her life let go and let God (she lives with tons of fear not enough money, homeless, being alone for the rest of her life)...She spoke of her having a sad heart because she thinks she is not worthy of Gods love (so very true her heart is litterally breaking because she does not think she is worthy of anything and twice and once since I have known her she has been in the hospital with all body functions shutting down because she thinks she deserved to die for whatever reason). She said she needs to know that Gods loves her just like he loves everyone and she needs to learn to accept that.
Plain and Simple:
It's witchcraft. It is communcation with 'familiar spirits', demons. There is absolutely no innocense in this.
It stems from one source and for one purpose. It is from the works of darkness to mis-guide and mis-lead those whom they have deceived.
God says to seek 'Him'. He is God and there is no other. Plainly God says, "....there shall be no other gods before me."
Pychic phenomia is a demi god whom others seek in stead of All Mighty God!
Seek God!
It's witchcraft. It is communcation with 'familiar spirits', demons. There is absolutely no innocense in this.
It stems from one source and for one purpose. It is from the works of darkness to mis-guide and mis-lead those whom they have deceived.
God says to seek 'Him'. He is God and there is no other. Plainly God says, "....there shall be no other gods before me."
Pychic phenomia is a demi god whom others seek in stead of All Mighty God!
Seek God!
**Tasha*Love**
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Sunshine that is an interesting perspective but I could probably tell you the same thing after sitting down and analyzing you and your words. I am not taking away from the experience you had but the information that she provided was general. Trust in God, lean not unto your own understanding, if you sow good seed you will reap good seed, live a life that is fulfulling to God and not to yourself, God loves you, etc.
I went to a psychic once and was afraid to ever go back. I left her house and my whole day was so gloomy! My heart was so down and I truly felt like I had betrayed God's trust. I got down on my knees that night and prayed for God's forgiveness. I was so curious to hear what the person had to say that I did not think about how I would feel afterwards.
I got a quick testimony
: I am really addicted to reading my horoscope. Don't know why I do it but I do. I always feel bad but could never break the habit. I get on the internet then I go out and ready my astrology. I would feel bad and it seems like nothing I read ever happened anyway 
. This thread really made me think this morning about my habit and how I have got to stop. Reading all of the responses got deep into my spirit, I was convicted and went into my favorites file and deleted all of my daily astrology websites. I thank God for each one of you, your wisdom is appreciated and valued.
I went to a psychic once and was afraid to ever go back. I left her house and my whole day was so gloomy! My heart was so down and I truly felt like I had betrayed God's trust. I got down on my knees that night and prayed for God's forgiveness. I was so curious to hear what the person had to say that I did not think about how I would feel afterwards.
I got a quick testimony
: I am really addicted to reading my horoscope. Don't know why I do it but I do. I always feel bad but could never break the habit. I get on the internet then I go out and ready my astrology. I would feel bad and it seems like nothing I read ever happened anyway . This thread really made me think this morning about my habit and how I have got to stop. Reading all of the responses got deep into my spirit, I was convicted and went into my favorites file and deleted all of my daily astrology websites. I thank God for each one of you, your wisdom is appreciated and valued.One phrase: FAMILIAR SPIRITS.... counterfeits... looks like it... acts like it...may even touch vaguely in the GENERAL sense, but not in full....not the authentic...the HOLY SPIRIT of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
http://www.gotquestions.org/familiar-spirits.html
Also have to be careful about entertaining familiar spirits because it opens a door to other, more intense, spiritual drama, if you will...and not the good kind....
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So why did you have to have a witch tell you what God has already proclaimed in your life? Sunshine yellow, you are too precious and too loved by God to ever go before a psychic. All that I am about to share is in love, I promise.
satan is a MASTER Deceiver. A Master of it. satan is the father of deception and will deguise himself as an ally when he is truly not.
I used to be in the pychic realm and I did exactly as this woman you saw did. I spoke about God and the Bible, I could even quote scripture. BUT it was not from God, whom I was speaking or representing.
You cannot serve two masters. A psychic will lead you into hell and the path of destruction. Why? Easy! People want answers and they want answers quick. It is as addictive as smoking cigarettes or shooting up heroin, for one to sit at the table of a psychic. Or at the sofa or pillow of one.
Honey, what if satan were sitting with you and telling you the very same things that this woman did? Would you have listened? I have news for you.............you were sitting with satan himself, and you didn't even recognize him. The words, psychic, fortune teller, spiritualist, etc., are all of his code names for hell's representatives. Hell's ambassadors.
God speaks clearly and admonishes us against familiar spirits. spirits who are FAMILIAR with you and your past and they take your path and create a 'future' for you. If what they you of your past rings true it is because they have been familiar with you. They were there and have been with you all of your life. satan creeps and seeks any/all of whom he can devour....to sift as wheat.
I do not care what she may have told you about you and what she said to and about your friend, she is only speaking of what she is familiar with about you.
And OF COURSE she spoke of you and God. That's the kicker right there. For how can this woman be bad if she is 'acknowledging' your relationship with God and your faith in Him. And that is what satan is after.................your faith in God.
Did he not tell Jesus to bow down and worship him? satan wants your worship and your addiction to him, instead of God.
I know who psychics are and what they do and how they do it. As I said earlier, I was among them. But God and only God took over my heart and my life and the gifts that He gave me through and by His Holy Spirit, are not being used to His glory and no one else's.
There's so much I can tell you and want to tell you. But some you are going to have to learn it by yourself. And you will. And this experience is going to 'visit' you. Oh yes! Expect a 'visit' from satan and often. For now that he's gotten your attention, he's going to challenge you to test your loyalty, to him or to God.
God's answers take time and seasoning, yet it's worth it as we are being seasoned and conditioned to know and to recognize HIS voice. satan's answer's come quickly, via psychics and that's appeals to the flesh of those who succomb to him; for people want to know and instantly. They want shortcuts.
But just as there were no shortcuts to the cross, there are no shortcuts to an eternal relationship with God. If anything psychics should be running to us for prayer and deliverence instead of any child of God, running to them for a reading. For our instruction is of and comes from God alone.
Blessings Sunshine yellow......
Sunshine that is an interesting perspective but I could probably tell you the same thing after sitting down and analyzing you and your words. I am not taking away from the experience you had but the information that she provided was general. Trust in God, lean not unto your own understanding, if you sow good seed you will reap good seed, live a life that is fulfulling to God and not to yourself, God loves you, etc.
I went to a psychic once and was afraid to ever go back. I left her house and my whole day was so gloomy! My heart was so down and I truly felt like I had betrayed God's trust. I got down on my knees that night and prayed for God's forgiveness. I was so curious to hear what the person had to say that I did not think about how I would feel afterwards.
I got a quick testimony
Thank the Lord for your testimony.... I used to read my horoscope when I was a teenager and my mom would take us to see this lady who could "read".... She would say "Oh kind spirit" and stuff like that.... and my mom would burn those "holy candles".... I/we didn't know any better until I started going to my current church.... that was entertaining those familiar spirits....
And the Lord knows who I am because I am the type to want to know what's going on in the spirit realm.... And there is a way to know... through the HOLY SPIRIT....and because the Lord has given me to operate in the prophetic.... That gift given without repentence. I came on the planet with it.... Those psychics came on the planet with the gift to see as well.... but the devil stole and perverted the gift (just like the devil perverts the things of the Lord to make it his own but the devil is the opposite of the Lord God).
msa
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Now whenever I try to explain this to my friends this is exactly what I will say. Before I could never really find the right words to express what I meant. Thanks Shimmie.
HeChangedMyName
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I feel like this about psychics:
Deuteronomy 18(NKJV)
9 “When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the LORD your God has not appointed such for you.
KJV
9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
Deuteronomy 18(NKJV)
9 “When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the LORD your God has not appointed such for you.
KJV
9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
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Ramya
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Mine started off this way. I was not raised in a Christian household but relatives recognized my gift and told me that I was doing "good things" I really thought I was helping people and that I understood my gift. Boy was I wrong
sunshineyellow
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I must say thank you ladies for the info, but I am not into psychics just went that one time she is who she is and I am who I am I didn't leave thinking I need to do this every week or even one more time nor did she try and con me (she did say she wish she could surrender as easily as I do) into it I thanked her and that was it. It hasn't change the way I feel about my walk with the Lord for I am still on the path. Believe me I have been tested many of times and still being tested on a daily basis on my faith in the Lord and part of the faith is not judging people or trying to convince them that how I do it is better, that is the Lords place not mine. The only way the devil can come in is if I allow him with fear and I when I feel him sneaking up I just rebuke him in the name of Jesus and maybe he may get a foot in the door but when I get drift of him he's gone. I accept and respect everyone to be who they are, I can talk to them, have fun with them or whatever but, I know who I am and whose I am and it keeps me where I need to be. On the flip side we always think others will change us but who knows how many we will change or have changed already just by being who we are. God puts us in path of others for a reason and it's not always bad for us as most would think it may be to help bring someone to HIM.
sexyeyes3616
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Ladies thanks for your responses they were really helpful and I enjoyed them
Duchesse
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I've enjoyed reading all of you ladies posts.
I do have a question though..is it a general consenus that all people who call themselves psychic are receiving messages from satan?
What about people who have received images from the future or impressions about people/events since childhood? Or what about people who ARE definitely Christians and who do not exalt themselves over God, but say that their images/messages are from God? Am I making sense ?
The reason I ask this is because my mother is a very spiritual person and she is very much a Christian. Since she was a child she was a "seer" you can say, and she often receives impressions about people pr events that come to pass.
She also has a friend who is a minister, and is most definitely gifted with prophetic powers. She preaches from the Bible. I know that she used to use tarot many years ago, and others things in the past, but has renounced such practices for years, because she did realize that they were not of God, and openly stated that she does not touch that type of stuff anymore.
What is the difference between the gift of prophecy, and "psychics"? How can you tell the difference?
When I say psychic, I'm not talking about tarot users, or folks who have those shops, or people who try to rob other's money and lead them astray. I mean people who truly do receive images about the future (from God) and use them to help guide.
I am currently reading the Bible for myself, I've never read it in entirety before, so I am far from a scholar, and I'm unsure about many things. Maybe I am confused about the term "prophet."
TIA
I do have a question though..is it a general consenus that all people who call themselves psychic are receiving messages from satan?
What about people who have received images from the future or impressions about people/events since childhood? Or what about people who ARE definitely Christians and who do not exalt themselves over God, but say that their images/messages are from God? Am I making sense ?
The reason I ask this is because my mother is a very spiritual person and she is very much a Christian. Since she was a child she was a "seer" you can say, and she often receives impressions about people pr events that come to pass.
She also has a friend who is a minister, and is most definitely gifted with prophetic powers. She preaches from the Bible. I know that she used to use tarot many years ago, and others things in the past, but has renounced such practices for years, because she did realize that they were not of God, and openly stated that she does not touch that type of stuff anymore.
What is the difference between the gift of prophecy, and "psychics"? How can you tell the difference?
When I say psychic, I'm not talking about tarot users, or folks who have those shops, or people who try to rob other's money and lead them astray. I mean people who truly do receive images about the future (from God) and use them to help guide.
I am currently reading the Bible for myself, I've never read it in entirety before, so I am far from a scholar, and I'm unsure about many things. Maybe I am confused about the term "prophet."
TIA
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Hi Sunshine yellow. I don't want anything in my post to offend you, neither am I passing judgement.
I will just address certain points in your post which are very important. My notes are in 'red' within your post. None of this is judgment upon you personally. It's an observation and my response. Also I am using the pronoun 'you' in general terms.
Question: Did you initially go to this woman to bring 'change' to her?
In your post it 'appeared' your experience was as others who go visit a psychic, 'searching' for answers. And in your post credit (acknowledgement) was given to this psychic for 'knowing' your past and that of your friends.
In so doing, without knowing, you have given those spirits that she is operating under, access to your spirit and they WILL come and visit you, adding to your daily tests. Even Jesus knew not to give satan any type of foothold.
Willfully walking into the 'house' of a witch and taking counsel with one, allowing one to look into your spirit, immediately cancels out this statement which you've made (bolded in red above).
"The only way the devil can come in is if I allow him with fear and I when I feel him sneaking up I just rebuke him in the name of Jesus and maybe he may get a foot in the door but when I get drift of him he's gone."
We cannot rebuke what you defend. It has to be fully acknowledged that you went there and was wrong to do so be it your intent or not. The enemy has to be rebuked in 'whole' not in part.
When someone visits a psychic and sits with them and listens, they are allowing the psychic to connect with their spirit and in many cases their soul. And you are literally sitting 'in agreement with them. Think about it. As soon as a psychic says something that has occurred in your life that you can relate to, IMMEDIATELY your spirit LEAPS towards him/her in total agreement.
You spirit releases an immediate reaction that says, 'Yes, that's right; or that's true. And immediately you lean in for more. " The devil 'has' you. he's made the connection with your spirit and you have become a "Captive Audience'. satan has you captivated. And everything oone does to justify a psychic experience is evidence that he still has you 'captive'. And why not? he has befriended you; he has revealed knowledge of you and past events which have deeply affected you ..... AND he's given you 'hope' for your future. 'You' have become his ally.
The evidence is when one becomes defensive and justifies. Until 'you' call it for what it is, which is witchcraft, these spirits which you have allowed into your spirit will indeed visit you in far greater measure than the trials you are having now.
For satan lies in wait, for just the right moment, just the right trial to launch his attack and it will be within your mind. There will be a conflict of interest, a conflict of faith and what to believe and who to believe, and the struggle will be back/forth, for a spirit of confusion has taken place over your mind and your relationship with the Lord.
We cannot serve two masters. We simply cannot.
It's interesting and fascinating how God moves. I had been avoiding this thread topic. God knows how I don't like it, for I have not only lived it, but satan loves to 'fight' with this issue, and I was simply not in the mood. But God gave me this scripture this morning and it is so on time.
Dear children, keep yourselves from idols (false gods)--[from anything and everything that would occupy the place in your heart due to God, from any sort of substitute for Him that would take first place in your life]. Amen (so let it be). 1 John 5:21 (Amplified Bible)
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Wow! "Stay away...... from anything or any sort of substitute for Him...."
What an awesome God we serve. And He is the REAL thing, no substitute. God doesn't give us generic, He gives us the original, the one and only, the first cast from the mold. Our God.
Hugs and blessings and peace :Rose:
I will just address certain points in your post which are very important. My notes are in 'red' within your post. None of this is judgment upon you personally. It's an observation and my response.
Also I am using the pronoun 'you' in general terms. Question: Did you initially go to this woman to bring 'change' to her?
In your post it 'appeared' your experience was as others who go visit a psychic, 'searching' for answers. And in your post credit (acknowledgement) was given to this psychic for 'knowing' your past and that of your friends.
In so doing, without knowing, you have given those spirits that she is operating under, access to your spirit and they WILL come and visit you, adding to your daily tests. Even Jesus knew not to give satan any type of foothold.
Willfully walking into the 'house' of a witch and taking counsel with one, allowing one to look into your spirit, immediately cancels out this statement which you've made (bolded in red above).
"The only way the devil can come in is if I allow him with fear and I when I feel him sneaking up I just rebuke him in the name of Jesus and maybe he may get a foot in the door but when I get drift of him he's gone."
We cannot rebuke what you defend. It has to be fully acknowledged that you went there and was wrong to do so be it your intent or not. The enemy has to be rebuked in 'whole' not in part.
When someone visits a psychic and sits with them and listens, they are allowing the psychic to connect with their spirit and in many cases their soul. And you are literally sitting 'in agreement with them. Think about it. As soon as a psychic says something that has occurred in your life that you can relate to, IMMEDIATELY your spirit LEAPS towards him/her in total agreement.
You spirit releases an immediate reaction that says, 'Yes, that's right; or that's true. And immediately you lean in for more. " The devil 'has' you. he's made the connection with your spirit and you have become a "Captive Audience'. satan has you captivated. And everything oone does to justify a psychic experience is evidence that he still has you 'captive'. And why not? he has befriended you; he has revealed knowledge of you and past events which have deeply affected you ..... AND he's given you 'hope' for your future. 'You' have become his ally.
The evidence is when one becomes defensive and justifies. Until 'you' call it for what it is, which is witchcraft, these spirits which you have allowed into your spirit will indeed visit you in far greater measure than the trials you are having now.
For satan lies in wait, for just the right moment, just the right trial to launch his attack and it will be within your mind. There will be a conflict of interest, a conflict of faith and what to believe and who to believe, and the struggle will be back/forth, for a spirit of confusion has taken place over your mind and your relationship with the Lord.
We cannot serve two masters. We simply cannot.
It's interesting and fascinating how God moves. I had been avoiding this thread topic. God knows how I don't like it, for I have not only lived it, but satan loves to 'fight' with this issue, and I was simply not in the mood. But God gave me this scripture this morning and it is so on time.
Dear children, keep yourselves from idols (false gods)--[from anything and everything that would occupy the place in your heart due to God, from any sort of substitute for Him that would take first place in your life]. Amen (so let it be). 1 John 5:21 (Amplified Bible)
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Wow! "Stay away...... from anything or any sort of substitute for Him...."
What an awesome God we serve. And He is the REAL thing, no substitute. God doesn't give us generic, He gives us the original, the one and only, the first cast from the mold. Our God.
Hugs and blessings and peace :Rose:
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I can tell you in heartbeat what the difference is. But there's something that you need to do so that you will 'know, that you know, that you know the difference for yourself.
In prayer, ask God to show you the difference. He will!
sunshineyellow
New Member
Dear Shimmie,
You are so welcomed for your input. Love sunshine yellow.
You are so welcomed for your input. Love sunshine yellow.
sprungonhairboards
Well-Known Member
I would love a straightforward general answer to this as well.
I serious when I say this. It's just that critical.
Ask God to show you the difference. He will. He wants to.
Here's why:
To tell you in words, you will forget.
To learn it from God, you will never forget AND
You will be able to 'rightly' discern the Truth when someone is speaking a word over you. You will be able to discern if it is from the Holy Spirit or satan.
No matter what God has, satan has his 'counterfeit', a copy cat. an imitation. Deception.
And we cannot be deceived by thinking that a Prophet is truly a Prophet from God, just because he or she may be speaking from a Church pulpit or a prophetic service, even while quoting scripture.
satan has witches in the Church and you need to be able to discern them quickly and accurately, and without hesitation, dismiss them and not allow them to 'read' your spirit, nor allow your spirit to 'leap' in agreement with them as they speak of the familiar in your life, past/present/future. For they are 'familiar' spirits lying to you.
Ask God to teach you and show you the difference. For no amount of words can tell you.
Blessings...
God bless you precious daughter of God.
cocochanty
New Member
thank you shimmie for your explanation!!!!!! because the deception in this world is spreading at a fast pace. Not many people are willing to seek the truth, and they dont understand the truth
aribell
formerly nicola.kirwan
I serious when I say this. It's just that critical.
Ask God to show you the difference. He will. He wants to.
Here's why:
To tell you in words, you will forget.
To learn it from God, you will never forget AND
You will be able to 'rightly' discern the Truth when someone is speaking a word over you. You will be able to discern if it is from the Holy Spirit or satan.
No matter what God has, satan has his 'counterfeit', a copy cat. an imitation. Deception.
And we cannot be deceived by thinking that a Prophet is truly a Prophet from God, just because he or she may be speaking from a Church pulpit or a prophetic service, even while quoting scripture.
satan has witches in the Church and you need to be able to discern them quickly and accurately, and without hesitation, dismiss them and not allow them to 'read' your spirit, nor allow your spirit to 'leap' in agreement with them as they speak of the familiar in your life, past/present/future. For they are 'familiar' spirits lying to you.
Ask God to teach you and show you the difference. For no amount of words can tell you.
Blessings...
Thank you, but I have questions too. And I've been trying to figure this out for over a year. There is a woman who co-pastors a tiny church with her husband. I went there because my sister was going. And they usually have a "prophetic word/annointing" part of the service where she (and sometimes her husband) will speak specific things to people in the congregation. The congregation swears that she has never been wrong...and she only encourages godly behavior. More than that, she more than once read my heart completely. I didn't seek her out, she has just always read my heart completely, and I was really taken aback by the experience. (and really, it wasn't general applicable-to-everyone stuff, it was really particular to me).
On one hand I cannot deny the accuracy of her words, and yet, like you said, my spirit has never quite settled about it...and I eventually ended up walking out right in the middle of a church service for no articulable reason other than that I just felt like I couldn't be there--and I've not gone back.
What you said about familiar spirits made sense to me, and I recognized it. But what I don't understand is how something can be of Satan when it doesn't lead you away from God's commands? I explicitly had the thought more than once that what she was doing seemed more like the insight of a psychic than the Spirit of God, and I did leave, but in I'm against calling fellow believers tools of Satan unless that is really the truth. It could be incredibly hurtful. And if that is the truth, then I should probably go back and talk to her about it, since there is something of a relationship there.
But to be sure, what would biblical prophecy look like? My best answer would be that biblical prophets are never just reading people's spirits or predicting the future, they are always bearing a word from the Lord and pointing individuals to knowledge of and obedience to Him. Is it right to say that any "prophecy" which is not serving this purpose is a "familiar spirit"?
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You are exactly where God wants you; so that He can show you the difference.
Anyone of us here can 'tell' you, but only in words. The position that you are in is a gift, so allow God to unwrap it for you and seal it in your heart and in your spirit.
I would have to be in the Church service to 'discern' what's in operation. God gives us the answers we are seeking.
AND what I am about to say is important!
It's not that deep!
It's not. It's quite easy, but we have to be willing to be 'fully' yielded to the Holy Spirit and submitted to His teaching. It takes time with Him...alone. Getting to know Him and His voice and not that of a stranger.
What does God say?
"My 'Sheep' know my voice and the voice of a stranger they will not follow. '
"Thine ears shall hear a voice behind it saying, this is the way, walk ye in it."
So many who say they are Christians, yet they are not following 'HIS voice. They follow that of a stranger.
What are the signs of those following strange voices? They go against God's word and follow that which is not of Him and justify it, make excuses or they harden their hearts against correction.
This is why God wants us to 'know' Him. Spend time alone with Him so that He can show us the difference. Once you 'know' and you are settled in with God's presence, you can immediately discern the voice of a 'stranger'.
What occurred to you in Church, only God can tell you. Only God. I believe that the Pastors were operating under the 'gift's of the Spirit, but often, our flesh gets in the way and we miss God. One thing I will tell you is that God does not want us to become dependent upon having 'a word' spoken to us and over us.
We STILL and we MUST be able to walk by faith and to be able to rightly discern God's direction for our lives. What happens is that the Prophets become our God. People will depend upon hearing 'a word' spoken over them and not seek God for themselves. It's not a sin to have a prophetic word spoken over you, but many times God will say, 'enough', come know me for yourself. God wants to speak into our lives. And He will....
Just ask. People are just 'fools' these days. They say they are Christians and the stuff that they believe in and support is so off the wall, that you wonder if another god has arisen. And literally, another god has, it's satan.
And what satan is doing is using those who profess to be God loving Christians, as his tools to lead others astray; others who have not taken time to 'know' God for themselves. "Father, teach me; teach me who you are; show me the difference. Teach me in the way, that I will have no doubt about what's from you and no doubt as to what I should do.
In Jesus's name, Amen and Amen.
