Keratin Treatment Support Thread

I have mixed feelings about BKT... unlike a lot of the product makers suggest, i would not recommend the process for anyone whose hair is not 100% HEALTHY. The keratin doesn't repair the damage and the heat needed to bond the product to the hair cuticle will only worsen any damage underneath. The coating makes the hair look healthy and shiny, but as it's washed out the damage will be obvious. i also wouldn't suggest overlapping BKTs because 1) they contain a lot of protein, which could lead to protein damage if overlapped in people whose hair doesn't require much protein or people who use protein products in between BKTs and 2) for people who don't want to completely lose their curls, BKT is a progressive treatment which means it works better and better everytime you use it, making the results more permanent and long-lasting (hence the name escova progressiva). The treatment lasts longer depending on how porus and the texture of your hair (mine last about 6 months and i have virgin hair) but i wait until it is completely washed out before reapplying.
 
yes but i have to admit it was my fault. i did i BKT in june and backed off using heat protectants and DCing as much for the sake of maintaining that "salon swang" and now I have had 4 trims since due to spit ends and had some strands that were broken and frayed up to 3 inches up the hair shaft. i also have hair in the front left side of my hair that is permanently straight. i don't think that the heat from the intial product application is was damaged my hair the most but the flat ironing in between. I have been flatironing/straightening my hair every week to 2 weeks since i was a child and have never had the kind of damage and loss of length i had after getting the BKT.
 
Cloefa said:
yes but i have to admit it was my fault. i did i BKT in june and backed off using heat protectants and DCing as much for the sake of maintaining that "salon swang" and now I have had 4 trims since due to spit ends and had some strands that were broken and frayed up to 3 inches up the hair shaft. i also have hair in the front left side of my hair that is permanently straight. i don't think that the heat from the intial product application is was damaged my hair the most but the flat ironing in between. I have been flatironing/straightening my hair every week to 2 weeks since i was a child and have never had the kind of damage and loss of length i had after getting the BKT.
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Yikes...thanks for sharing your experience. I want to BKT because I have very dry hair. I've tried many things to combat the dryness and nothing really works out for me. I'm natural and I wear my hair in it's natural state daily and I don't plan on flat ironing my hair while having the BKT with the exception of the initial process. Do you think if one strays away from heat your hair will be alright and not suffer any damage like you have experienced?
 
Good comments, definitely something to think about regarding the heat damage. I really just want to take advantage of the faster drying time. I still really wants this done. I am in Houston and have yet to find a stylist that I am comfortable go with. Many of the salons here tend to cater to caucasion clients and don't have experience with 4a/4b textures like mine. I know many of you diy your BKT but I am lazy and want it done in a salon.

FYI....I phoned Yamil and she doesn't really know about 4a/4b hair in my opinion. It told her I was natural and she insisted that she relax my hair first. Guess what she wanted to relax my hair with prior to the treatment? A thio straightner...:nono: which told me she probably wasn't good choice. Oh well.
 
Hmm that's crazy
I know I was on a no-trim challenge and stopped trimming. I think that's what might be my problems because I'm looking at some of my ends and I see small splits. I'm not "tripping" off of these small splits, because they are tiny, but they could be part of the reason I'm only starting to touch BSL in the back. Good growth overall though.

I also maintained a strict braiding and wigging regimen since before and after the BKT. I really don't want to deal with my hair until I'm done "growing it." I just want to know the basics of washing, moisturizing and protecting for now to get my hair at desired length. I find that the BKT did strip some with frequent workouts without daily co-washing.

Overall I'm not a big flatironer... or heat user. Thanks for sharing though. I think it's time to request a trim at a local salon.
 
I think your hair will be fine, heat or no heat, as long as you treat your hair the same as you would if you didn't have it. some people just give in to the hype and think that the BKT is a cure all for hair problems when it isn't. it's a tool to make hair less frizzy and more manageable, not to make hair healthier, stronger, etc. this was my 2nd treatment and my hair was fine after the first one, i damaged my hair the second time bc i thought the BKT was a miracle product i didn't have to take care of my hair because it looked so good. i don't know how well it works for moisture loss...i know that it coats the hair with cones which is why the hair looks so shiny and could make your hair less porus and retain more moisture in the short run, but it's a short term fix because it gradually wears off the more you wash your hair, especially if you co wash a lot
 
I washed the treatment out, and it did take. I let it airdry in a bun over night and it is smooth and silky. My ends feel a whole lot better, but I am still considering a trim, it's been maybe... 1.5 to 2 years and I think it's starting to hold back my growth. I'm at the top of BSL at my "tail" but a little behind everywhere else. It looks "not-quite-APL"-ish but it really stretches down when you get it really straight.

So I'll keep skipping the first blowdry - it was just too drying, do the second blowdry when I apply (heat seal the keratin in)... keep DCing... and work on the flatironing technique - AND TRIM. I should see a marked difference in my hair's ends after my trim.

I'm ready to try another brand though. Dream hair? Is that what everyone's in love with?
 
Just wanted to say thank you to all the BKT beauties out there who inspired me to go ahead and take the plunge! I finally tried the Zene Escova progress on my 10 month post relaxer hair. I have about 4 inches of new growth at the root, and 6 inches of relaxed ends from last year.:look: I think I like the results; its taken me all week to get used to the new feel, look, and behavior of the BKT treated hair! I just wanted to share a few pics to show my growth progress now, and will report back with my full BKT experience pics and story as soon as I put them in order, and upload them on my computer. Geez, I need a fotki with my lazy self!:yep:

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Inch by inch..step by step..this hair journey is a real trip-but I'm enjoying every minute of it!!!:drunk: Thanks, y'all, couldn't do it without you!
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I have a hair appointment tomorrow evening for a trim. The stylist will wash, blowdry and straighten, then trim. She's Hispanic and it only costs $31 but I may get a military discount. I'll post pics then... oh yea...she uses a natural hair line in her store that's sulfate free so I wont have to bring my stash. She knows I have a BKT and is fine with it. I'm in a fro now and feel free... keep u all posted
 
GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I said:
So I bought one system. Keratina by Salon Pro. It supposedly has more proteins than other brands, got good ratings by those who purchased it, is sold by a top-rated seller with fast delivery and good customer service based here in the U.S. Only thing, it's a 2-day wait to shampoo...but it's also 25 oz. of each product and made in Brazil. The other competing systems were Inoar and Encanto. 16 oz. of Encanto 3-system treatment were 99.00 but I paid the 130.00 for this one because the sizes were bigger and the protein content:



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So did you use this yet?

Natural Glow said:
***Okay Ladies, I made a group for us: BKT Beauties***

Right now it's invite only so I'm gonna try to go through and try to invite everyone from this thread to join, but if I over look you please, please let me know and I'll invite you:grin:
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And I just wanted to quote this incase some :newbie:s might want to join.
 
mstar said:
I subscribe to this thread, and I'd love to join the BKT group, please! I will be doing my own BKT probably in January, as soon as I'm confident that my hair is in good condition and my moisture balance is up to par.
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Same here. I've been lurking. I want to BKT but my hair has been breaking lately and I can't pinpoint what it is. I am relaxed but I am going to get my hair texlaxed this week. I use henna but I am going to go back to cellophane....
 
Just to update you ladies.

I finally finished my BKT last night. I had a long day yesterday and I started to put off washing it until today but decided against that.

While washing it I could see an immediate difference as my hair didn't shrink up to my scalp. I like that I still had my curls though relaxed and it was soft.

Today I flat ironed it and it came out pretty good. Nothing pic worthy.

I think I'm pleased with the result but I'll see. I know I'm gonna do it again in about 3 weeks and try to do it better since I have hands on experience now.

I think I'm gonna do roller sets if I wanna wear my hair straight because there is too much heat with the process and then to flat iron it more to style is too much.

I'm gonna continue to follow the thread and hoping that my next attempt will be pic worthy.

Thanks to all for your hints and tips , especially Sheba.
 
^^^^ Congrats, MsDeevee! You're a BKT newbie and by number two you'll be a pro!! :yep: Did you ever see my roller set and silk wrap post BKT? My hair came out soooo smooth without a flat iron in sight. Gotta love that.

I wanted to reply to a post earlier about needing 100% healthy hair to BKT and I'm not sure I agree. If the hair is already damaged, it must be trimmed away over time, anyhow. BKT can make it look better as it's cut away in order to avoid the trauma of a big chop. The new hair coming in will have protection from day one and have a better chance of staying healthy. I'd also venture to say that my hair is, indeed, stronger with the additional protective layer of BKT. My super duper fine strands need not fear wet bunning when BKT is involved.

I think the trouble comes in when people with damaged hair expect for BKT to do the impossible; save the damaged hair. I agree that BKT is not a cure all; only a really great tool to help manage and smooth for easier styling. :giggle: yeah... I love it. Can you tell? :rolleyes: :)
 
Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll said:
Stella!! You did it!! Where's the pics? I know it's gawjus. I just know it.:yep::yep::yep::yep::yep:
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Sure did!:grin: I've spent most of the week trying to figure out what my hair needs and likes now that I've got three different textures of hair!:look: (yes 3!!!)
The bottom six inches or so are relaxed from last year, the top 4-5 inches are natural from my already 10 month stretch, and I just BKT'ed over all my strands! Yea, the pics are coming soon......I promise!:yep:
 
Okay, I just had my hair flatironed and trimmed. She took about an inch off all over to even it out, but it looks really thick and healthy.

It's t-storming out here... and she was petrified to burn my scalp and get too close to it, so it's not a "pic perfect" flatiron but it's better than what I would have done. She used a sulfate free natural hair line and I had her use my Aphogee Keratin mist as well.




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Man seeing all of these great pics I can't wait! I finally ordered my Dreamhair from ebay so I should get it by the end of the week.

I do have a question though: I only have a Sedu and it goes up to 410. Has anyone successfully used a flat iron at a lower temp than 450 to apply the treatment?

ETA: Came home and found my package, my BKT is here!
 
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Muse said:
Man seeing all of these great pics I can't wait! I finally ordered my Dreamhair from ebay so I should get it by the end of the week.

I do have a question though: I only have a Sedu and it goes up to 410. Has anyone successfully used a flat iron at a lower temp than 450 to apply the treatment?

ETA: Came home and found my package, my BKT is here!
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Congrats, Muse! BKT party at Muse's house everybody!!! :grin:

I know Socalli used to get her BKT done with 370 degree heat, so 410 may work out for you alright, Muse. Most in these parts use seem to use 430 and up. I think you'll be ok, though, if you don't overdo it on the amount you put on. Worth a shot. If you find it's not enough you could grab yourself a babyliss at TJ Max for around $30 or borrow a friends, maybe?
 
TheLaurynDoll said:
Okay, I just had my hair flatironed and trimmed. She took about an inch off all over to even it out, but it looks really thick and healthy.

It's t-storming out here... and she was petrified to burn my scalp and get too close to it, so it's not a "pic perfect" flatiron but it's better than what I would have done. She used a sulfate free natural hair line and I had her use my Aphogee Keratin mist as well.




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You're so cute! Hair looks fab!
 
sheba1 said:
Congrats, Muse! BKT party at Muse's house everybody!!! :grin:

I know Socalli used to get her BKT done with 370 degree heat, so 410 may work out for you alright, Muse. Most in these parts use seem to use 430 and up. I think you'll be ok, though, if you don't overdo it on the amount you put on. Worth a shot. If you find it's not enough you could grab yourself a babyliss at TJ Max for around $30 or borrow a friends, maybe?
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Great thanks Sheba! I knew I could count on you! I think I'll try it on 410 and if I find that it's not working I will run to TJ Maxx. Good point about watching the amount I use. If I use a lot I imagine I would need a higher temp. Will report back next week.:grin:
 
Muse said:
Great thanks Sheba! I knew I could count on you! I think I'll try it on 410 and if I find that it's not working I will run to TJ Maxx. Good point about watching the amount I use. If I use a lot I imagine I would need a higher temp. Will report back next week.:grin:
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I hate to contradict Sheba's advice but a top quality ceramic iron is part of what makes the BKT treatment bond better and protects your hair from heat damage.

I was told by a pro that I needed to invest a FHI or Babyliss ceramic tourmaline ionic iron because it helps with your hair to prevent heat damage and it helps with the BKT bonding with the hair.

I invested in the top of the line BabyLiss and I believe that is one of the reasons I have had such great success with the product.

Just something to think about. Your 410 Sedu would be better than the cheap TJ Maxx iron. I looked at that thing and walked away from it and left it in the store. Try your Sedu, if that doesn't work upgrade. IMHO
 
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