Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[LAURENCE]

Hi guys!
Brittany has new videos on you tube and her hair looks so healthy! I think I will take the plunge the first weekend of Dec. my hair has had a year to recooperate from last years heat damage, so it should be ready. Thanks ladies for sharing.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

I just did my 2nd BKT application but I think it's my fault it's not great. I just finished my 2nd QOD gold application. I used as little as possible... a fingertip application for almost each layer about 1/3 to 1/4" each and combed through and detangled thoroughly, both before and after the BKT application.


I skipped the clarifying poo, I DC'd and colored last night (semi perm)... rinsed it out anf applied QOD damp. Then I airdried. My ends were already dry when I started flatironing while the rest of the hair was damp. I figured flatironing damp would help seal in more moisture under the keratin seal.

When I started flatironing, my ends were coming out dry, rough and crispety crunchety. I added Aphogee Keratin and Green tea to remoisten the ends and they smoothed down considerably, but are still "crunchy" ad coarse and/or rough.

Now, the end result? A Dull flatiron with lots of body, and no swing.
I know for the most part my hair DOES NOT do well with blowdryers, or when it is flatironed while dry; therefore, I kept my hair damp- like 80% dry. I've had GREAT wraps when I have damp hair that is flatironed into submission.
Out of frustration, I wrapped my hair--- and put it under a stocking cap. I've slapped the wig back on until the 72 hours -- Sunday night comes. Then I will wash it out, do a comparison, and possibly retry wrapping and flatironing.



But I want to know what you ladies think I should do better? I fear it's a combination of my technique (application) and how I normally flatiron/straighten my hair.

Hair Type info: 4a/3c, 100% reversion from a summer relaxer, color treated. The only huge problem I have is detangling, but I keep it braided so it can grow. I'm trying to perfect my flat iron technique and am giving up the relax attempts for good.

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

I just did my 2nd BKT application but I think it's my fault it's not great. I just finished my 2nd QOD gold application. I used as little as possible... a fingertip application for almost each layer about 1/3 to 1/4" each and combed through and detangled thoroughly, both before and after the BKT application.


I skipped the clarifying poo, I DC'd and colored last night (semi perm)... rinsed it out anf applied QOD damp. Then I airdried. My ends were already dry when I started flatironing while the rest of the hair was damp. I figured flatironing damp would help seal in more moisture under the keratin seal.

When I started flatironing, my ends were coming out dry, rough and crispety crunchety. I added Aphogee Keratin and Green tea to remoisten the ends and they smoothed down considerably, but are still "crunchy" ad coarse and/or rough.

Now, the end result? A Dull flatiron with lots of body, and no swing.
I know for the most part my hair DOES NOT do well with blowdryers, or when it is flatironed while dry; therefore, I kept my hair damp- like 80% dry. I've had GREAT wraps when I have damp hair that is flatironed into submission.
Out of frustration, I wrapped my hair--- and put it under a stocking cap. I've slapped the wig back on until the 72 hours -- Sunday night comes. Then I will wash it out, do a comparison, and possibly retry wrapping and flatironing.



But I want to know what you ladies think I should do better? I fear it's a combination of my technique (application) and how I normally flatiron/straighten my hair.

Hair Type info: 4a/3c, 100% reversion from a summer relaxer, color treated. The only huge problem I have is detangling, but I keep it braided so it can grow. I'm trying to perfect my flat iron technique and am giving up the relax attempts for good.

I dunno...I probably would have added a lil more QOD to my ends rather than the chi, just to make sure they were coated. Don't panic or stress for now, just see how it looks in two days after your wash. Also, if you flat iron it then, use as little products as possible prior to blow drying (leave-in, oil, heat protectant), and you should have great, swangy hair!

 

[GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I]

Just wondering, but I like to stock up on things when they are on sale ...has anyone tried Puffchino on Ebay? Protein Keratine Treatment Cream? Puff didn't tell me the manufacturer but said it was made in Florida.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=260483747937

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=260476413594

For a limited time, all three with free shipping. Hmmm. I wish I had seen it before I placed my previous order. If images won't load, log in and check for seller Puffchino.

 

[msdeevee]

Ok, you ladies got me.

I've been natural for 6 years now and even though I hit APL I feel my hair should be so much longer. I ordered the Soft Liss chocolate a few months ago but was kinda leery of doing it. I love my natural hair. However I had to have 3-4 inches cut off last weekend because of wearing my hair in twists and other natural styles that tore up my ends.

I've decided to keep my hair straight for the Winter so I can baby the ends and hopefully retain some length. I did the Mizani Thermasmooth system last weekend which was great.

So I'm gonna jump in and do the BKT today and see how I do with that.

Thanks for all the tips ladies I've been following this thread for a while now.

Got a lot of tips and encouragement from Sheba1. Thanks again ladies.

 

[sheba1]

I'm so so so sorry to hear of your having to cut so much off due to natural styling. You know that I can completely identify as I lost a couple inches for the same reason and am dusting the rest until they get full and thick and knot free thanks to BKT.

Good luck to you. I think you'll really love the BKT Your cuticle is super healthy and unprocessed so I'm certain you will still have plenty of curl. I'm going to pm you my number so you can call me if you run into any snags.

 

[Blessed2bless]

Ok, you ladies got me.

I've been natural for 6 years now and even though I hit APL I feel my hair should be so much longer. I ordered the Soft Liss chocolate a few months ago but was kinda leery of doing it. I love my natural hair. However I had to have 3-4 inches cut off last weekend because of wearing my hair in twists and other natural styles that tore up my ends.

I've decided to keep my hair straight for the Winter so I can baby the ends and hopefully retain some length. I did the Mizani Thermasmooth system last weekend which was great.

So I'm gonna jump in and do the BKT today and see how I do with that.

Thanks for all the tips ladies I've been following this thread for a while now.

Got a lot of tips and encouragement from Sheba1. Thanks again ladies.

I know Sheba1 is the best!!! All the best! I just finished and so far so good... I will be trying Soft-Liss next treatment!
btw I had to cut 41/2 inches and I'l still cutting splits daily as I see them.

 

[MarieB]

Sheba, you are such a sweetie!

 

[sheba1]

I know Sheba1 is the best!!! All the best! I just finished and so far so good... I will be trying Soft-Liss next treatment!
btw I had to cut 41/2 inches and I'l still cutting splits daily as I see them.

Sheba, you are such a sweetie!

Awww stop guys :blush3: Just trying to pay it forward as so many helped me. I must have sent Brittany, Crazydaze, Princessnad and Socalli a million and one PMs

 

[msdeevee]

Ok ladies I've finished my 1st BKT with help from Sheba

I was afraid I didn't have enough on then I was afraid I put too much on but anyway I finished the flat-ironing but I'm too tired to do the second wash and mask . I'm really curious to see how it comes out after I do the second wash and the mask but I have other things to do today This treatment is a lot of work!!

My hair feels fine. It is a little dull and dry looking but I'll just put it up in some kinda updo for worship tomorrow.

I've been reading back through the thread and I will be buying some of those finger protectors , my fingers are mad at me.

Overall , I'm happy so far. No complaints.

Thanx again Sheba for all your help.

 

[sheba1]

This treatment is a lot of work!!

My hair feels fine. It is a little dull and dry looking but I'll just put it up in some kinda updo for worship tomorrow.

Isn't it, though?! BKT is hard work the first time. And then after, with product in, my hair was just like yours... kinda dull and dry. But, MsDee, just wait until your first wash. Wow... you'll see.

 

[Dak]

I just did my 2nd BKT application but I think it's my fault it's not great. I just finished my 2nd QOD gold application. I used as little as possible... a fingertip application for almost each layer about 1/3 to 1/4" each and combed through and detangled thoroughly, both before and after the BKT application.


I skipped the clarifying poo, I DC'd and colored last night (semi perm)... rinsed it out anf applied QOD damp. Then I airdried. My ends were already dry when I started flatironing while the rest of the hair was damp. I figured flatironing damp would help seal in more moisture under the keratin seal.

When I started flatironing, my ends were coming out dry, rough and crispety crunchety. I added Aphogee Keratin and Green tea to remoisten the ends and they smoothed down considerably, but are still "crunchy" ad coarse and/or rough.

Now, the end result? A Dull flatiron with lots of body, and no swing.
I know for the most part my hair DOES NOT do well with blowdryers, or when it is flatironed while dry; therefore, I kept my hair damp- like 80% dry. I've had GREAT wraps when I have damp hair that is flatironed into submission.
Out of frustration, I wrapped my hair--- and put it under a stocking cap. I've slapped the wig back on until the 72 hours -- Sunday night comes. Then I will wash it out, do a comparison, and possibly retry wrapping and flatironing.



But I want to know what you ladies think I should do better? I fear it's a combination of my technique (application) and how I normally flatiron/straighten my hair.

Hair Type info: 4a/3c, 100% reversion from a summer relaxer, color treated. The only huge problem I have is detangling, but I keep it braided so it can grow. I'm trying to perfect my flat iron technique and am giving up the relax attempts for good.

LaurynDoll, I love reading your blogs & your posts! I'm going to try and comment on your technique. I think next time you should clarify first. Like doing a clean install. You're ironing the BK treatment into your hair, I imagine the stuff is designed to go into the hair with heat, ie, molecule is malleable enough to enter, which then smooths out the hair strand and makes it silkier. Adding different stuff to be ironed in, like the Aphogee, just isn't the same thing.

I'm not sure a finger tip amount is enough either, I'm not visualizing what you mean very clearly. My hair (3C/4A) is very porous, especially when just clarified, I understand not using too much, but you do want to have enough product to coat the length of your hair.
Also, I think the hair should be completely dry with the BKT in it before you flat iron. Any sizzle sound scares me around my hair.

I'm thinking the BKT can definitely take the place of a relaxer for you, can't wait to hear how it turns out after you wash!

 

[Blessed2bless]

Ok ladies I've finished my 1st BKT with help from Sheba

I was afraid I didn't have enough on then I was afraid I put too much on but anyway I finished the flat-ironing but I'm too tired to do the second wash and mask . I'm really curious to see how it comes out after I do the second wash and the mask but I have other things to do today This treatment is a lot of work!!

My hair feels fine. It is a little dull and dry looking but I'll just put it up in some kinda updo for worship tomorrow.

I've been reading back through the thread and I will be buying some of those finger protectors , my fingers are mad at me.


Overall , I'm happy so far. No complaints.

Thanx again Sheba for all your help.

Did you take pictures...

 

[msdeevee]

Did you take pictures...

No , not yet. My DH is painting and I'm not good at taking pics of my hair by myself.

When I wash it out tomorrow, I'll take pics. I hope it's pic worthy

Will it hurt anything if I put a little oil on it ?

 

[Dak]

Will it hurt anything if I put a little oil on it ?

I don't think so, but use half or a quarter of what you usually use, freshly BKT hair is very different, not as porous.

 

[msdeevee]

Thanks , I think I'll just leave it alone 'til tomorrow. I'll just wear some headbands tomorrow to detract from the dullness.

 

[Blessed2bless]

No , not yet. My DH is painting and I'm not good at taking pics of my hair by myself.

When I wash it out tomorrow, I'll take pics. I hope it's pic worthy
Will it hurt anything if I put a little oil on it ?

Not at all... I used a little chi and shine on my ends before I washed my hair....
Wash day I used my leave-in and sealed with CO and Shea butter.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

Here are my 2nd BKT results with QOD Gold.
Again I think I may have been heavy handed. After being wrapped most of the 72 hours, it's a little smoother and sleeker, but I have this Oprah Winfrey thing going. I also saw a small burn on my scalp from not blowdrying.... I think my lesson is learned... blowdry the BKT then flat iron (even if I skip the blowdry on clarified hair).

Overall the results aren't too different from the last BKT application. I will probably have to clip my ends since that seems to be the problem....

OH YEA I haven't washed the BKT out yet. I will do this and compare.

 

[Blessed2bless]

Here are my 2nd BKT results with QOD Gold.
Again I think I may have been heavy handed. After being wrapped most of the 72 hours, it's a little smoother and sleeker, but I have this Oprah Winfrey thing going. I also saw a small burn on my scalp from not blowdrying.... I think my lesson is learned... blowdry the BKT then flat iron (even if I skip the blowdry on clarified hair).

Overall the results aren't too different from the last BKT application. I will probably have to clip my ends since that seems to be the problem....

OH YEA I haven't washed the BKT out yet. I will do this and compare.

Wow! your results are great!!!!

 

[sheba1]

^^^^ ITA your hair is BEAUTIFUL!!! Wow, I was thinking of skipping the blow dry before flat iron next time, too. So icksnay on that, eh? Ok... thanks for pioneering it, though. Beautiful hair! I'm certain you'll get a smoother less Ophry look after you've washed.

 

[ChristmasCarol]

I just did my 2nd BKT application but I think it's my fault it's not great. I just finished my 2nd QOD gold application. I used as little as possible... a fingertip application for almost each layer about 1/3 to 1/4" each and combed through and detangled thoroughly, both before and after the BKT application.


I skipped the clarifying poo, I DC'd and colored last night (semi perm)... rinsed it out anf applied QOD damp. Then I airdried. My ends were already dry when I started flatironing while the rest of the hair was damp. I figured flatironing damp would help seal in more moisture under the keratin seal.

When I started flatironing, my ends were coming out dry, rough and crispety crunchety. I added Aphogee Keratin and Green tea to remoisten the ends and they smoothed down considerably, but are still "crunchy" ad coarse and/or rough.

Now, the end result? A Dull flatiron with lots of body, and no swing.
I know for the most part my hair DOES NOT do well with blowdryers, or when it is flatironed while dry; therefore, I kept my hair damp- like 80% dry. I've had GREAT wraps when I have damp hair that is flatironed into submission.
Out of frustration, I wrapped my hair--- and put it under a stocking cap. I've slapped the wig back on until the 72 hours -- Sunday night comes. Then I will wash it out, do a comparison, and possibly retry wrapping and flatironing.



But I want to know what you ladies think I should do better? I fear it's a combination of my technique (application) and how I normally flatiron/straighten my hair.

Hair Type info: 4a/3c, 100% reversion from a summer relaxer, color treated. The only huge problem I have is detangling, but I keep it braided so it can grow. I'm trying to perfect my flat iron technique and am giving up the relax attempts for good.

I've done 3 BKT treatments and I've noticed that following the directions to a "T" gave the straightest, silkiest result. When I gave myself the treatment, I skipped the naked hot blowdry (I dried on cold)and it was not as silky as my daughters' hair. I didn't want it "bone straight", however, which is why I skipped that step. Also, if your flat iron is not near or above 450F, it won't bond as well. I believe an average head (sl) should use around 2 ounces of product.
So, I think any alteration in the proscribed process will produce varying results. The good thing is that you can strip it and do it again following the instructions to the letter, if you'd like. I'm sure your hair will be just fine, whatever you choose to do. This stuff is "the truth"!

 

[Eisani]

I did it...

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

I did it...

 

[Eisani]

lol, I'm putting some stuff together so I can post my results and all that good stuff.

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

lol, I'm putting some stuff together so I can post my results and all that good stuff.

Good, cuz I stopped short of adding the "this thread is useless without pics",

 

[Love Always]

I did it...

Ummm, don't leave us hanging we need details! I've stalked your Fotki and your texture is similiar to mine so I would like to know how it's working out for you so far. I plan on getting the BKT pretty soon .

 

[Eisani]

Good, cuz I stopped short of adding the "this thread is useless without pics",

Haha! I thought about that as I typed it, I know better! I've been taking a few pics, got a great trim from a barber and I'm just trying to do one last thing before I post my results!

Ummm, don't leave us hanging we need details! I've stalked your Fotki and your texture is similiar to mine so I would like to know how it's working out for you so far. I plan on getting the BKT pretty soon .

I promise I'll start a thread and give all the details once I finish taking pics doing other things. I have a couple reviews that I think will be useful to a lot of us.

 

[Tafa01]

Haha! I thought about that as I typed it, I know better! I've been taking a few pics, got a great trim from a barber and I'm just trying to do one last thing before I post my results!


I promise I'll start a thread and give all the details once I finish taking pics doing other things. I have a couple reviews that I think will be useful to a lot of us.

I can't wait to see!!! I hope you liked it

 

[AtlantaJJ]

^^^^ ITA your hair is BEAUTIFUL!!! Wow, I was thinking of skipping the blow dry before flat iron next time, too. So icksnay on that, eh? Ok... thanks for pioneering it, though. Beautiful hair! I'm certain you'll get a smoother less Ophry look after you've washed.

You should get a good ion blow dryer. I would not skip the blow dry step before the flat iron. The drying after the clarifying step is optional in my opinion. But I would not put a 450 iron on my damp hair, no way no how that is asking for trouble. Also the blow dry with the BKT in is part of the process to get it to bond with the cuticle. I don't blow dry it straight like I'm round brushing but I stretch it out especially at my roots pretty good to help get the treatment to take. I don't have a problem with my ends now because they are poker straight which I love. I focus my blowdry on my roots.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I just did a textlax on the back half of my head. I had so much new growth, it was just getting out of hand. I just left the relaxer on for 8 - 10 minutes just to get through the cuticle a little and to stretch out my roots. I will do the front half this week and then BKT next weekend.

I have retained so much length! My bangs are almost at the end of my nose! When I started they were just reaching my eyes.

I agree with the poster about sticking with the instructions until you have more experience with the BKT. Adding extra products and steps or skipping steps is risky IMHO.