Keratin Treatment Support Thread

The left side of the photo show the softliss.

the right side is straighter and that's global.

Ironic, because the discussion on the board has been that the softliss makes one's hair straight. opposite in my case. :ohwell:
 
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I've already bought my second BKT treatment by QOD to do. But I'm scared because I'm loving that my wash n' goes are so much more defined. Frizzy. But less frizzy. 7/22 will be 3 months since I did the first BKT with OK Keratin Treatment.

Anyone notice that their roots look different from the rest of their hair? It could be me though since I only detangle about every 3 or 4 weeks. So, my roots could be trying to matte.
 
Does swing equal BKT success? I'm asking because I didn't see a lot of swing in tallnomad's hair, but I did see shine. She has gorgeouse dense, lush, thick hair that I dream of having.

No, I don't think so. I don't think you can really tell what your hair will be like until the first wash. So no need to worry if it lacks swing.. especially not on the first app on virgin hair.

So, ladies, since having the BKT, have you had to change up your protein/moisture balance? I mean, as a natural, I don't even know what my balance is now, but with the BKT, do you feel you hair needs more moisture, more protein . . .?

I've found my hair is just easier to care for. I don't much worry about pro/moist balance. I use a reconstructor every few days (aphogee two minute) just because I coat my hair in conditioner on a daily basis to weigh down my curls. I figure the keratin will also help to bond temporarily to any places the treatment might be wearing also. I told myself I'd listen to my hair for any changes but the stuff is so darned easy-going and doesn't talk much, now. I figure I'll just keep doing what I'm doing til further demand is made.

I don't have any good conditioners right now, but I think I'll pick up some Aussie. Yodie and I talked about it yesterday and Sheba says she uses this. I'm hoping a good conditioner will help my curls clump together. I also want to try Wen in the Fig. Yodie said that it gave her nice ringlets.

Hey there, yes, I use it and love it :yep:. I use it after I cowash (and sometimes oil rinse now that my BKT is starting to wear). I coat my hair in it to weigh down my curls and make them more manageable and predictable. I love it. I do not use it to cowash, however. For that I prefer Vo5 clarifying conditioner (safe for color treated hair is on the back) and Tressemme Moisture Rich coditioner.
 
Tallnomad, I love your curls! It looks so manageable and soft. I see what you mean though about the pressing and how it may have had an impact on certain sections of your curls - I see one or two sections that are straighter than the rest. If it bothers you that much, you could search and clip the ends of the straight part and see if you get fullness you are seeking. I love your hair though. Maybe the photos are two small..., but, I do not see a significant difference between the BKT products you uses. Maybe a bigger pic might show up the difference more.
 
I finally took the plunge and did my OK Keratin treatment.. here are the pics.. I'm not sure if I like it yet.. it is definately soft! Can't wait for my wash tomorrow! Here are the pics.. the back pic is rough.. I did my first self trim today also!

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I finally took the plunge and did my OK Keratin treatment.. here are the pics.. I'm not sure if I like it yet.. it is definately soft! Can't wait for my wash tomorrow! Here are the pics.. the back pic is rough.. I did my first self trim today also!

Great job; and I love the color of your hair!
 
Your hair looks gorgeous, Danigurl! Especially after your trim. I can't wait to see after your first wash :yep:
 
I crossed wrapped my hair, put on my scarf and slept face down. It was a bit uncomfortable but it kept my hair crinkle free.

Hi Pinkskates,

Just wondering if you're letting your BKT wear off or continuing to apply?

Has anybody allowed their BKT to wear off? If so, how did it wear?
Thanks.
 
Here are larger photos.

I guess I shouldn't be too worried. In these pics, I only have castor and coconut oils in. So, when I officially do a conditioner wash tomorrow, I'm hoping the curls will really pop.

The back shot shows that the curls are more defined.

The very last photo is how I wore it out today. The left side--curlier side--is the softliss, the right side is global. It got much fuller today while I was out running errands, but it wasn't too overwhelmingly big.

I was on a product junkie mission today. I bought Mills' Creek Keratin conditoner, Aussie's Sydney Smooth, Aubrey's GPB conditioner; honeysuckle poo and conditioner; CHI silk infusion, Black n Sassy Creamy set, Cantu "Break Cure," and some carefree curl gel, and John Frieda Frizz free.

Somebody slap me if I talk about buying something else. :look: Yodie--you know where I live.
 

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Hi Pinkskates,

Just wondering if you're letting your BKT wear off or continuing to apply?

Has anybody allowed their BKT to wear off? If so, how did it wear?
Thanks.

Hi Yodie,
Yes I have let the BKT completely wear off. I did an update on my site about 2 weeks ago. My hair is just fine and all of my kinks are back.
 
Hey Ladies--I'm still doing my BKT process. Yodie helped me blow dry, apply the product and flatiron--thank you SO much! I ordered the smallest Softliss kit and it wasn't enough for my uber thick hair. Thank God I had some Global, so we had to use some of it on a portion of my hair. The majority of my hair has Softliss though.

She wanted to be careful not to get too close to my roots when flatironing, so I'm going to go over those right now with a pressing comb.

I just pray that once I apply the mask and rinse, there won't be too big of a contrast between the Global and Softliss portions on my hair.

Any suggestions from anyone? Me and Yodie were thinking that maybe I should rinse tomorrow in order to let the Global portion take.



woah! It took the entire bottle of softliss? I'm on the verge of dropping $120 on the kit but I was thinking 2-3 applications.

I see you have a lot of hair but I still would have thought the bottle would not have gone in just one app??

I'm trying to reason with myself to say that BKT is cheaper than back when I was getting relaxers but hmmmm... maybe it might not be??

Quick, Someone tell me it's not that expensive (and that milk shake I had today was fat free) and I will sleep a lot better tonight.
 
I love it!!! I think it's beautiful and the curls, especially at the back is just popping!!

Here are larger photos.

I guess I shouldn't be too worried. In these pics, I only have castor and coconut oils in. So, when I officially do a conditioner wash tomorrow, I'm hoping the curls will really pop.

The back shot shows that the curls are more defined.

The very last photo is how I wore it out today. The left side--curlier side--is the softliss, the right side is global. It got much fuller today while I was out running errands, but it wasn't too overwhelmingly big.

I was on a product junkie mission today. I bought Mills' Creek Keratin conditoner, Aussie's Sydney Smooth, Aubrey's GPB conditioner; honeysuckle poo and conditioner; CHI silk infusion, Black n Sassy Creamy set, Cantu "Break Cure," and some carefree curl gel, and John Frieda Frizz free.

Somebody slap me if I talk about buying something else. :look: Yodie--you know where I live.
 
Yes. It took the entire bottle! I really thought I would have a few more applications left, but not at all. The softliss stuff is thick and it wasn't spreading out enough on my hair. The global is thinner, so it spreads more.

When I do the BKT again, I will just have to invest in larger bottles of Softliss. The global fumes were no fun.

Most people seem to be okay with the smaller version of the softless (I think that that's what they're ordering). Not sure how thick your hair is. Mine was just sucking it up.

woah! It took the entire bottle of softliss? I'm on the verge of dropping $120 on the kit but I was thinking 2-3 applications.

I see you have a lot of hair but I still would have thought the bottle would not have gone in just one app??

I'm trying to reason with myself to say that BKT is cheaper than back when I was getting relaxers but hmmmm... maybe it might not be??

Quick, Someone tell me it's not that expensive (and that milk shake I had today was fat free) and I will sleep a lot better tonight.
 
Tallnomad, Excellent results, chica! Love your curlz - give em to me!

But I am also :blush: -surprised you used an entire bottle! Lawd, chica, you've got some seriously thickkkk hair. I used about 2.5 ounces - of both the mask and the treatment. I've got enough for 3 more applications, easy. The Softliss had NO fumes, I was really shocked. And happy.

I didn't really notice curls poppin'. I have some waves, but i didn't notice curls...matter of fact, when i pulled my hair back it was straight. I'm tryin to recall bcs I did it so quickly before running errands and then going to the salon. My wet pre-bkt hair looks like yours after the treatment. :ohwell:. I was hoping for more curly curls when dry...Maybe with a different brand. My bkt really looks relaxer-ish...kinda.

Also, my neices, one who is natural, knew immediately that i'd done the treatment. She complained that we use to be Partners in Poof and I left her out in the cold bcs my hair didn't get huge like normal and now she was the only one walking around with big hair after the memorial service for her brother (Mark). They loved it. They did not love how much time it took. I presume, though, she'll be taking the plunge soon.

When my hair did get bigger, i came home, wrapped it, napped and when i got ready to go, it was smooth again. My hubby even commented on my hair looking so silky for so long and that with all my crying and the heat, my hair stayed beautiful - no frizz. He didn't know that i had bkt - he slept through all 4 hours of it and the smell didn't wake him.

So, with all that, I guess my bkt was a success. However, it's not as shiny as normal, i'll have to look into that. No pics, yet. I'll see what i can do today. Also, not one hair has fallen from my head in 3 days.:spinning:

Yes. It took the entire bottle! I really thought I would have a few more applications left, but not at all. The softliss stuff is thick and it wasn't spreading out enough on my hair. The global is thinner, so it spreads more.

When I do the BKT again, I will just have to invest in larger bottles of Softliss. The global fumes were no fun.

Most people seem to be okay with the smaller version of the softless (I think that that's what they're ordering). Not sure how thick your hair is. Mine was just sucking it up.
 
Tallnomad, Excellent results, chica! Love your curlz - give em to me!

But I am also :blush: -surprised you used an entire bottle! Lawd, chica, you've got some seriously thickkkk hair. I used about 2.5 ounces - of both the mask and the treatment. I've got enough for 3 more applications, easy. The Softliss had NO fumes, I was really shocked. And happy.

I didn't really notice curls poppin'. I have some waves, but i didn't notice curls...matter of fact, when i pulled my hair back it was straight. I'm tryin to recall bcs I did it so quickly before running errands and then going to the salon. My wet pre-bkt hair looks like yours after the treatment. :ohwell:. I was hoping for more curly curls when dry...Maybe with a different brand. My bkt really looks relaxer-ish...kinda.

Also, my neices, one who is natural, knew immediately that i'd done the treatment. She complained that we use to be Partners in Poof and I left her out in the cold bcs my hair didn't get huge like normal and now she was the only one walking around with big hair after the memorial service for her brother (Mark). They loved it. They did not love how much time it took. I presume, though, she'll be taking the plunge soon.

When my hair did get bigger, i came home, wrapped it, napped and when i got ready to go, it was smooth again. My hubby even commented on my hair looking so silky for so long and that with all my crying and the heat, my hair stayed beautiful - no frizz. He didn't know that i had bkt - he slept through all 4 hours of it and the smell didn't wake him.

So, with all that, I guess my bkt was a success. However, it's not as shiny as normal, i'll have to look into that. No pics, yet. I'll see what i can do today. Also, not one hair has fallen from my head in 3 days.:spinning:

Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll,

I'm happy that you had success. I know you were torn between which brand to use.

In reference to the shine; I get the most shine when I rub a small amount of oil on my hair while it dry. I did a wash & go the other day. At 1st it was looking dull, so I added a little carrot oil to it, and it was BLINGING!!! It's amazing how a little oil makes a big difference with this treatment. It didn't make my hair heavy just added some sheen.
 
So I did my BKT on Friday night with QOD that I got from Ebay. Verdict: I DID NOT like it. My hair was heavy and somewhat dull. I felt like the product never really "baked" onto my hair. This is my 3rd treatment, so I know how to apply it properly. It even frizzed a little on me on my birthday Saturday night while I was outside. It was very humid that night. If I had used OK BKT like I did the last 2 times, I would have been ok. I don't even have that BKT "swang". I will wash, DC and baggy tonight. Since I am a wash n go girl for the summer, its ok. As long as it maintains that. I do not recommend the QOD. I still :love4: my OK BKT. I will give Soft LIss a try next month. Otherwise OK will be my BKT of choice. Plus the price is right.

I am so happy to see so many DIY lovin' their BKT. It really is the BEST! :yep:
 
Awwww, Cutenss I'm sorry you didn't get the results you're used to. :sad: You'll be in love after your first wash, I'm sure though.
 
I can not wait to rollerset my hair. I can't wait! I'm looking into a Pibbs-type dryer and I'm gonna get some uber-jumbo rollers that my stylist uses and try my hand at it. I pray I get great results. I think I will trim my ends - maybe 2 inches - again, bcs I did a search and destroy a few weeks ago and jacked-up the evenness of my hair. Dang. It was finally coming together. I'll see if I can trim a tad and still keep some length. I really really wanna be bsl by Christmas.

Thanks Cutenss on the QOD review. I have an ounce of the Gold. I still think the OK Keratin may be a really good treatment. I was so shocked with Softliss, bcs when I applied the Mask, when water first hit my hair, my hair didn't revert. At All. It was bone straight. I had to seriously work the mask into my hair before some waves came in and my hair started to swell. I was like, man, this stuff is serious!

Keep the tips and reviews coming, ladies. I so appreciate all of you and I finally had a great hair day(in over a year) for a major event.
 
I can not wait to rollerset my hair. I can't wait! I'm looking into a Pibbs-type dryer and I'm gonna get some uber-jumbo rollers that my stylist uses and try my hand at it. I pray I get great results. I think I will trim my ends - maybe 2 inches - again, bcs I did a search and destroy a few weeks ago and jacked-up the evenness of my hair. Dang. It was finally coming together. I'll see if I can trim a tad and still keep some length. I really really wanna be bsl by Christmas.

Thanks Cutenss on the QOD review. I have an ounce of the Gold. I still think the OK Keratin may be a really good treatment. I was so shocked with Softliss, bcs when I applied the Mask, when water first hit my hair, my hair didn't revert. At All. It was bone straight. I had to seriously work the mask into my hair before some waves came in and my hair started to swell. I was like, man, this stuff is serious!

Keep the tips and reviews coming, ladies. I so appreciate all of you and I finally had a great hair day(in over a year) for a major event.

That's how it was with my mom.. the water hit and still straight. That's fine with me... I would love to wear my hair straight everyday without damaging it. This sounds like win win to me. We have the same type of hair so I can't wait until this treatment... I have toyed with doing it during the week; but I am going to wait until my hair BFF can come help me. :drunk:
 
I've been out of the mix for a little while, but I've been doing my research on BKT and have some questions from my *almost* BKT experience.

I decided to get the Brasiliana treatment done this Saturday. After washing my hair and blowdrying it straight, the stylist applied BKT (a thick heavy coat, to the point where my hair was definitely wet again) and then proceded to flat iron sections. She started the first section and not only burned the back of my head (yes, leaving a scab) but the sizzling and steam from the flat iron was enough to make me jump out of her chair. It wasn't even sizzling, it sounded like throwing meat in a hot frying pan. She got through all of 10-15 passes on two sections before I was done. I just got up and said I didn't want the treatment.

After looking at videos and tutorials online I NEVER saw or heard it done like this. The other ladies in the shop were gasping and I really thought she was going to burn all my hair off, so I couldn't go through with it.

So my questions are:
1.) Is it really supposed to be saturated in your hair and then immediately flatironed, where your hair is sizzling with each pass? Honestly, I think most ladies on this board would have freaked out if someone did that to them, but I just had to check if I was getting this wrong.

2.) Can you just apply the treatment, rollerset, and then flat-iron?

The only reason I'm even remotely curious about this anymore is that the pieces that she did BKT had the moisturied look and feel that everyone describes after I came home and washed. The difference in my hair is dramatic, but I think I can achieve the results without burning my head. I'm going to try the treatment on my own because the section that was done looks like looser, moisturized curls.
 
So my questions are:
1.) Is it really supposed to be saturated in your hair and then immediately flatironed, where your hair is sizzling with each pass? Honestly, I think most ladies on this board would have freaked out if someone did that to them, but I just had to check if I was getting this wrong.

It is supposed to be pretty moist after the treatment is applied. However, it is then supposed to be allowed to sit for 15 to 20 minutes and then blow dried til dry. Then there's supposed to be several passes of flat ironing and not a drop of sizzling or burning?! :nono: should have been in the whole doggon treatment, as far as I'm concerned.

2.) Can you just apply the treatment, rollerset, and then flat-iron?

I've heard of some doing this. I like to apply the treatment to towel dried hair and I just blow dry the one time after applying the treatment. I follow that with the flat iron. You can see my fotki for details.
 
ok thanks Sheba1! I knew she was crazy so I'm glad I left.

My hair looks exactly like yours in the before and after pics (the small section). I'll check out your fotki to see your process :)
 
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