Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Mystic]

Awwwww!! Thanks Cutenss! for everything.

My first BKT, I did wait the four full days. Since it was my firt time doing it, I wanted to "go by the book". But my second time, I had to go somewhere to go, and I knew that I would not flatiron anymore, until my next treatment. So I used a wave iron the second day, and then washed later that day. When I do it on Friday, I will probably wait the four days just because it is my birthday weekend. Otherwise no.

Mystic, I AM SO HAPPY that everything turned out the way you wanted. Your hair looks AWESOME! Gotta love some wash n go's BKT style. Hair is trial and error. But always know that you have us/this forum to guide you.

 

[Titansgirl]

Mystic,

Whew, I am so HAPPY that your hair turned out okay after your wash!! I was so nervous for you..... I'm glad that you're happy with your results...

 

[Mystic]

I have a few concerns and need some help again.

My hair is super soft and feels great when wet, but when it dries, it's extremely dry and trashy. My natural hair never felt like this before, and since the treatment, my hair sucks up oil like nothing but it lacks shine big times which is strange because my hair naturally has a lot of shine. In addition, when I comb, I am getting a lot more hair in the comb and on the floor, way more than normal. I am never a shedder. Has this happen to anyone? what should I do?

It seems my hair is perfect only when wet. Awww, you wouldn't believe how great it feels when water soaks in the strands; it feels like I had a relaxer and it looks so straight. Sometimes I wonder if the straightness is as a result of heat damage but then I know that's not possible because when it is dry, it looks totally natural. Right now I twisted some cholesterol conditioner in with a plastic cap for overnight and hope it will feel better tomorrow. Please pass along all recommendations - thanks.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

OK, I just bought softliss, but do i have to do the mask today? I'd like to wait and do it like 4 days later...about to get started, so please answer asap!! TIA!

 

[*fabulosity*]

OK, I just bought softliss, but do i have to do the mask today? I'd like to wait and do it like 4 days later...about to get started, so please answer asap!! TIA!

YES. I recommend doing the MASK as the final step. DO NOT SKIP THIS PART in my opinion. This was essential for Mama Fab... turned it from nice... to DAMN...

ETA: Good luck!!!! I know it will be beautiful!!!!

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

{{{smooch}}}

Thanks Mama Fab, I'll take your advice, though I was hoping you'd say, "Nah, do it next week, it'll be fine!" LOL!

Also, I did not apply with a brush or comb, i applied with my hands...I combed through each section thoroughly, though, to make sure I didn't miss anything...I used 2 oz maybe a tad more.

Now, I'm waiting out the 15 minutes til blowdrying again...i'm very pleased to note that i had very little shedding during this process. So far, minimal smell, but i haven't applied heat so- we'll see...i'll keep you guys posted.

YES. I recommend doing the MASK as the final step. DO NOT SKIP THIS PART in my opinion. This was essential for Mama Fab... turned it from nice... to DAMN...

ETA: Good luck!!!! I know it will be beautiful!!!!

 

[carolb21]

Where did you buy your softliss?
Thanks.....

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

I purchased at the Softliss website. Shipping included, about $110, shipping charges increased . But it was fast. I ordered monday, it was here thursday!!

Where did you buy your softliss?
Thanks.....

 

[AtlantaJJ]

OK, I just bought softliss, but do i have to do the mask today? I'd like to wait and do it like 4 days later...about to get started, so please answer asap!! TIA!

I used the mask an hour after as instructed. Someone here used it the following morning. I don't know about waiting 4 days. Give Softliss a call they are open and they have someone who can advise you. I wouldn't wait 4 days.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

{{{smooch}}}

Thanks Mama Fab, I'll take your advice, though I was hoping you'd say, "Nah, do it next week, it'll be fine!" LOL!

Also, I did not apply with a brush or comb, i applied with my hands...I combed through each section thoroughly, though, to make sure I didn't miss anything...I used 2 oz maybe a tad more.

Now, I'm waiting out the 15 minutes til blowdrying again...i'm very pleased to note that i had very little shedding during this process. So far, minimal smell, but i haven't applied heat so- we'll see...i'll keep you guys posted.

The flat iron part is steamy so make sure you have a fan blowing on you. Don't be frighted by the steam that comes off the iron. That's the keratin bonding to the hair shaft. I use 450, some folks are afraid but for me it helps me to do less swipes. I had the heat lower and I had to do more swipes to get the hair supple.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I have a few concerns and need some help again.

My hair is super soft and feels great when wet, but when it dries, it's extremely dry and trashy. My natural hair never felt like this before, and since the treatment, my hair sucks up oil like nothing but it lacks shine big times which is strange because my hair naturally has a lot of shine. In addition, when I comb, I am getting a lot more hair in the comb and on the floor, way more than normal. I am never a shedder. Has this happen to anyone? what should I do?

It seems my hair is perfect only when wet. Awww, you wouldn't believe how great it feels when water soaks in the strands; it feels like I had a relaxer and it looks so straight. Sometimes I wonder if the straightness is as a result of heat damage but then I know that's not possible because when it is dry, it looks totally natural. Right now I twisted some cholesterol conditioner in with a plastic cap for overnight and hope it will feel better tomorrow. Please pass along all recommendations - thanks.

That's not normal. I think it has something to do with the henna treatment you did.
Your hair is seems to be acting porous, like your cuticles are not closed.

You need to do a good moisture treatment and then to get your cuticles sealed some how. You need a low pH conditioner. That's what it sounds like to me.

 

[cutenss]

Go get some Porosity Control, your favorite deep moisturizing conditioner, and a moisturizing leave in conditioner. The deep conditioner that your are in with. The one you can't do without. Wet hair, BUT do not wash. Mix the PC and your deep conditioner together. Set under the dryer, heat cap of a simple baggy. If you do it without heat, try to for several hours, or even overnight. Rinse. Add your leave in and then seal with your favorite oil. I recommend doing this every other day, or until you feel your hair is back to normal. You need moisture, since henna can be very drying. The BKT should make your hair easy to handle. Try it. HTH

 

[sunbubbles]

You ladies are so knowledgeable about hair! *sigh*

 

[Mystic]

Thanks Atlanta...., I will do that and give feeback.

That's not normal. I think it has something to do with the henna treatment you did.
Your hair is seems to be acting porous, like your cuticles are not closed.

You need to do a good moisture treatment and then to get your cuticles sealed some how. You need a low pH conditioner. That's what it sounds like to me.

 

[Mystic]

OK, I will do this every other and see if my hair turns around. Thanks Cutenss.

Go get some Porosity Control, your favorite deep moisturizing conditioner, and a moisturizing leave in conditioner. The deep conditioner that your are in with. The one you can't do without. Wet hair, BUT do not wash. Mix the PC and your deep conditioner together. Set under the dryer, heat cap of a simple baggy. If you do it without heat, try to for several hours, or even overnight. Rinse. Add your leave in and then seal with your favorite oil. I recommend doing this every other day, or until you feel your hair is back to normal. You need moisture, since henna can be very drying. The BKT should make your hair easy to handle. Try it. HTH

 

[Mystic]

Just wanted to give an update. Since I didn't have the Porosity Control that Cutenss mentioned, and based on Atlanta's suggestion that my cuticles may not have been sealed, I used the Sebastian Clear Cellophane gloss and my hair is now back to normal. You were right on the money! Thanks a mill.

I did a rollerset and bun after the wash. Here are a few pictures of the result:

That's not normal. I think it has something to do with the henna treatment you did.
Your hair is seems to be acting porous, like your cuticles are not closed.

You need to do a good moisture treatment and then to get your cuticles sealed some how. You need a low pH conditioner. That's what it sounds like to me.

 

[sheba1]

Wow Mystic! Your roller set is smoooooooth Nice! And that bun is fierce! So you did the cellophane. Did you DC first? I think Cutenss is spot on. Lots and lots of moisture is definitely needed to counteract the affects of the henna.

 

[Mystic]

Hi Sheba1!

Yes, I DC overnight, then after the cellophane, dc for about 10 mins. Now that I know what the problem is, this thread has given me the tools to deal with it. Thanks much. As for the rollerset, I added nothing to my hair except water.

Wow Mystic! Your roller set is smoooooooth Nice! And that bun is fierce! So you did the cellophane. Did you DC first? I think Cutenss is spot on. Lots and lots of moisture is definitely needed to counteract the affects of the henna.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Oh yeah, oh yeah, uh huh uh huh uh huh!! I did it! I did it!

THe BKT, that is!

Yep, I just ran errands in 105 degree Houston humidity and my hair is still straaaaat! I used Softliss, as noted before. As usual, my hair is bone straight with swannnggg, but the difference -no poofy frizz after perspiring for, like, 5 hours straight. *grimace*

Faint smell, no eye irritation at all. I did apply the treatment using my gloved hands in my bathroom. I moved to my family room to blowdry and flatiron (4 passes at 400 degrees). I had the ceiling fan on and I opened a window, I also dropped the ac to like 75, so that could have helped. But, I was like, what is everyone experiencing? I had no issues at all. None.

After the final rinse, I blow dried - E.Z.- and then went to my stylist and she blew it out for me and flat ironed. I know she wanted to ask me what's up, bcs it took no time or effort and my hair was just bangin' - i know it bcs she just kept playin in it, just combing and combing and combing..... It looks like it always does when i get a flat iron, no change there, but i'm so happy with no frizz and stiffness after reversion. YESSS!

Thanks to all of you for cheering me on. You all were right. I could do it!

Started at 6am
Finished at 11am
Blessings,
~B*

I know y'all want pics, but i don't have time right now, just wanted to thank y'all for the help and let you know i'd completed my first bkt!

 

[cutenss]

YEAH BB, Glad you love it. I about to do mine here in a few minutes. You know you only get a 24 hour grace period before :gotroasted: becaue

Oh yeah, oh yeah, uh huh uh huh uh huh!! I did it! I did it!

THe BKT, that is!

Yep, I just ran errands in 105 degree Houston humidity and my hair is still straaaaat! I used Softliss, as noted before. As usual, my hair is bone straight with swannnggg, but the difference -no poofy frizz after perspiring for, like, 5 hours straight. *grimace*

Faint smell, no eye irritation at all. I did apply the treatment using my gloved hands in my bathroom. I moved to my family room to blowdry and flatiron (4 passes at 400 degrees). I had the ceiling fan on and I opened a window, I also dropped the ac to like 75, so that could have helped. But, I was like, what is everyone experiencing? I had no issues at all. None.

After the final rinse, I blow dried - E.Z.- and then went to my stylist and she blew it out for me and flat ironed. I know she wanted to ask me what's up, bcs it took no time or effort and my hair was just bangin' - i know it bcs she just kept playin in it, just combing and combing and combing..... It looks like it always does when i get a flat iron, no change there, but i'm so happy with no frizz and stiffness after reversion. YESSS!

Thanks to all of you for cheering me on. You all were right. I could do it!

Started at 6am
Finished at 11am
Blessings,
~B*

I know y'all want pics, but i don't have time right now, just wanted to thank y'all for the help and let you know i'd completed my first bkt!

 

[tallnomad]

Hey Ladies--I'm still doing my BKT process. Yodie helped me blow dry, apply the product and flatiron--thank you SO much! I ordered the smallest Softliss kit and it wasn't enough for my uber thick hair. Thank God I had some Global, so we had to use some of it on a portion of my hair. The majority of my hair has Softliss though.

She wanted to be careful not to get too close to my roots when flatironing, so I'm going to go over those right now with a pressing comb.

I just pray that once I apply the mask and rinse, there won't be too big of a contrast between the Global and Softliss portions on my hair.

Any suggestions from anyone? Me and Yodie were thinking that maybe I should rinse tomorrow in order to let the Global portion take.

 

[Wanderland]

Oh yeah, maybe you should. I rinse out my softliss the next day simply because I was tired and didnt want to sleep with wet hair. I saw no ill effects.

 

[tallnomad]

Thank you! I wasn't even thinking about the wet hair, but that's a great pont.

So, I'll just apply the mask in the morning then and rinse. Makes sense.

Oh yeah, maybe you should. I rinse out my softliss the next day simply because I was tired and didnt want to sleep with wet hair. I saw no ill effects.

 

[sheba1]

This is all so exciting! Can't wait to hear all about the results!

 

[Wanderland]

So I bought HairOne olive oil, and waiting on wen to be delivered. I posted a question earlier in a seperate thread about ladies who used both bkt and wen/hairone but only got one response.
Any one use it? Like it?

I washed today with Hairone and my hair felt really clean and ok in terms of softness but it is my first real wash after BKT (not the wash out of course), so the jury is still out.

 

[yodie]

Hey Ladies--I'm still doing my BKT process. Yodie helped me blow dry, apply the product and flatiron--thank you SO much! I ordered the smallest Softliss kit and it wasn't enough for my uber thick hair. Thank God I had some Global, so we had to use some of it on a portion of my hair. The majority of my hair has Softliss though.

She wanted to be careful not to get too close to my roots when flatironing, so I'm going to go over those right now with a pressing comb.

I just pray that once I apply the mask and rinse, there won't be too big of a contrast between the Global and Softliss portions on my hair.

Any suggestions from anyone? Me and Yodie were thinking that maybe I should rinse tomorrow in order to let the Global portion take.

Can't wait to hear about and see your results.
Thanks for trusting me with your hair. I actually learned alot.

 

[blissy]

Morning ladies,
I need bit of help. I applied rejuvenol bkt to my sister's natural hair and I cannot explain the difference in outcomes between us. I'm a 4 something natural just like her however after application there was barely a swang. Nada. Her hair felt strong yet hard. Wash out day is tomorrow (day 3) then strongly pushing her to DC. We plan to apply soft-liss this up coming week.
Any tips? The ultimate goal of more defined coils and curls.
Thanks

 

[yodie]

Does swing equal BKT success? I'm asking because I didn't see a lot of swing in tallnomad's hair, but I did see shine. She has gorgeouse dense, lush, thick hair that I dream of having.

Is your sisters hair very thick? Could that affect the swing factor?

Another note - I didn't sense any fumes from Softliss. Actually a pleasure to apply. Global... I like that its more concentrate (you use less) but those fumes are awful!!

I would definitely have to use a fume exractor before I messed with Global again.

Morning ladies,
I need bit of help. I applied rejuvenol bkt to my sister's natural hair and I cannot explain the difference in outcomes between us. I'm a 4 something natural just like her however after application there was barely a swang. Nada. Her hair felt strong yet hard. Wash out day is tomorrow (day 3) then strongly pushing her to DC. We plan to apply soft-liss this up coming week.
Any tips? The ultimate goal of more defined coils and curls.
Thanks

 

[tallnomad]

I'm just waking up. Was on the boards late trying to figure out how the protein/moisture balance for one's hair works.

I'm sitting with the final step--the mask--on my hair now. I used the whole bottle. I'm sure "normal" haired people don't have to do this, but I needed it to get all up in the thick hidden places on my head.

So far, the Softliss side seems to actually be showing more curls than the Global. erplexed Global has some curls too, but I seem to have more straight looking pieces.

I'm going to let it sit for about 10 minutes since I applied so much.

So, ladies, since having the BKT, have you had to change up your protein/moisture balance? I mean, as a natural, I don't even know what my balance is now, but with the BKT, do you feel you hair needs more moisture, more protein . . .?

 

[tallnomad]

Rinsed out the mask. I'm not a fan of stringy straight-ish curls, and that's what I have in the front. The curls in the back look great.

Without the BKT, my hair looks similar to Mystic's but because I had my hair pressed for two weeks, I think the curls became much looser--too loose for my preference, but it's okay.

I don't have any good conditioners right now, but I think I'll pick up some Aussie. Yodie and I talked about it yesterday and Sheba says she uses this. I'm hoping a good conditioner will help my curls clump together. I also want to try Wen in the Fig. Yodie said that it gave her nice ringlets.

The good thing, I can pull my hair back and it will lay down! I rubbed some coconut oil and castor oil through it and made two low ponytails. My roots are still thick, so I feel like I might need to do this again in a month or so. Not sure. I actually loved my hair yesterday when I washed it initially. I still had my pressed hair, and after it was wet, my curls were super clumped, thick and lush.

My goal is to wear my hair wet/curly, but if the curls don't clump the way I like, I may continue to get it pressed.

Overall, I'm happy I did it and my hair has shine, feels soft, but my "so-so" results (at least the look I was going for) are probably due to the press stretching out my curls more than normal.

I am trying to upload photos, but it keeps saying "fail." Will try again later.