honeybadgirl
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from what i have been reading and watching about this i think 3oz would be better for bsl. i dont think 2oz is enough
Keratin Treatment Support Thread
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from what i have been reading and watching about this i think 3oz would be better for bsl. i dont think 2oz is enough
winterinatl
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Thanks for the rec's, girl. I did need choices that didn't require more ordering and waiting.Hot dog! You are readyIf it's Suave clarifying shampoo, that'll be fine. I was a little disappointed when my Global package arrived and saw their clarifying shampoo was just... well, clarifying shampoo. It's got sulfates, sodium chloride and the whole deal! So I'm sure, if it's Suave clarifying, you'll be fine.
As for shampoo and conditioner you'll probably be surprised how many of your own products already fit the bill? Do you have any natural shampoos and conditioners? They're generally sodium chloride free. If no, you can grab some L'oreal EverPure Color Care shampoo and conditioner from the store. I also co-wash more than shampoo now that I'm bkt'd and Vo5 Clarifying conditioner is pretty awesome and color-safe. Most products that are safe for colored hair are safe for bkt. You still want to check for the absence of sodium chloride, but they are generally going to work.
I'm hoping this treatment will give me the ability to retain my ends long enough to get over the BSL hump I've been at for YEARS. It should also let me transition fairly easily. However, the whole point of the transition was to have healthier hair, which may not be necessary anymore after using BKT.
We shall see.
I'll post pics when I decide to do the treatment!
sheba1
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Anytime! You're very welcome.
This is my hope for many on the boards! Many women want to be natural and that's awesome! But on the boards, I can see there are just as many that would love to be relaxed but can't figure out how to have healthy relaxed hair for their hair type. I really hope BKT helps these individuals. I'm natural, been so for years, but I'm all about options.
AtlantaJJ
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I am so disappointed needless to say. I set aside this day to do my hair, and now I have no product...
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sunbubbles
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oooooo! I cant wait to see the pics when you get done!!
ETA: Ok just to clarify ( no pun intended LOL) when you re-apply the treatment for the 2nd and ongoing treatments, you have to re-clarify the hair beforehand correct??
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Titansgirl
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Sunbubbles thats what I did when I did the 2nd treatment. The results were even better than my 1st one.
Titansgirl
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FYI BKT'er,
I sent an email to Softliss today in reference to my water softener and the salt that is used in it. The response is pasted below:
ME:
I have a water softener that I put salt pellets in for the treatment. Will the salt in the water cause the BKT treatment to wear off faster?
SOFTLISS's response:
It shouldn't! But worst case senario it might cut a week off the effect.
I sent an email to Softliss today in reference to my water softener and the salt that is used in it. The response is pasted below:
ME:
I have a water softener that I put salt pellets in for the treatment. Will the salt in the water cause the BKT treatment to wear off faster?
SOFTLISS's response:
It shouldn't! But worst case senario it might cut a week off the effect.
Dak
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Atlanta, that's so disappointing! That kinda happened with me when I ordered from her too. I had ordered on a Saturday morning, the website said she'd take 24 hours to prepare the order, so I had expected it on Wednesday, which is my day off. Instead, she didn't process it until Monday, so I didn't get it until Thursday, which is the story of how I almost pulled an all nighter that day. 
I hope you get your order tomorrow, I can't wait to see pictures! I haven't washed my hair yet, it's still looking good, there really is something about the way the hair *hangs* that is unique, I plan to wash on Saturday, so I'll post pictures again then. I'm thinking about changing my routine, I usually wet set & sit under the dryer, but with the weather heating up, I'm thinking about air drying, then flat ironing. In the past, that's been too rough for my hair, so it will be great if my hair can stay healthy without roller setting.
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I hope you get your order tomorrow, I can't wait to see pictures! I haven't washed my hair yet, it's still looking good, there really is something about the way the hair *hangs* that is unique, I plan to wash on Saturday, so I'll post pictures again then. I'm thinking about changing my routine, I usually wet set & sit under the dryer, but with the weather heating up, I'm thinking about air drying, then flat ironing. In the past, that's been too rough for my hair, so it will be great if my hair can stay healthy without roller setting.
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jayjaycurlz
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Has anyone used Global Keratin, Cacao Intelligent Blowout or Organic Thermo Fusion? If so, what were your results?
Thanks!
Thanks!
nomoweavesfome
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I found that reinforcing the keratin into the hair helps me a lot. I use aphogee keratin 2 min conditioner and the aphogee tea tree keratin reconstructor. I let air dry 95 % , blow dry for a couple minutes and flat iron again - it comes out just like the first day! It's awesome - with hardly any breakage or shedding at all- that would never happen without treatment!
- oh ad i use creme of nature old bottle with green letters - it has no sls.
jayjaycurlz
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Which 'brand' of BKT are you using?
AtlantaJJ
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Thank you Dak, she hasn't sent it at all she said it was held up at customs after she told me it was packaged up and ready to go last Saturday.Atlanta, that's so disappointing! That kinda happened with me when I ordered from her too. I had ordered on a Saturday morning, the website said she'd take 24 hours to prepare the order, so I had expected it on Wednesday, which is my day off. Instead, she didn't process it until Monday, so I didn't get it until Thursday, which is the story of how I almost pulled an all nighter that day.
I hope you get your order tomorrow, I can't wait to see pictures! I haven't washed my hair yet, it's still looking good, there really is something about the way the hair *hangs* that is unique, I plan to wash on Saturday, so I'll post pictures again then. I'm thinking about changing my routine, I usually wet set & sit under the dryer, but with the weather heating up, I'm thinking about air drying, then flat ironing. In the past, that's been too rough for my hair, so it will be great if my hair can stay healthy without roller setting.
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I placed an order with the vendor that Cutenss used to get her BKT on Ebay I should have it Saturday. Needless to say I'm miffed about the "mix-up" with my order.
AtlantaJJ
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The QOD Gold is supposed to be more concentrated than the other brands so you use 30% less. I was cautioned not to use too much QOD Gold because it will make the hair sticky. PinkSkates and all her hair only used 2 oz. I could probably get by with 3/4 oz
winterinatl
All natural!
I'm sad you didn't get yours.The QOD Gold is supposed to be more concentrated than the other brands so you use 30% less. I was cautioned not to use too much QOD Gold because it will make the hair sticky. PinkSkates and all her hair only used 2 oz. I could probably get by with 3/4 oz
I was looking forward to your results. Rest assured I'd have done mine by now but haven't had the time. I don't want to rush at all.I was thinking about Friday night, but I have graduation ceremony to attend Sunday afternoon and am worried about having that cap on my head.
Do you all think that the cap will be bad to put on?
Dak
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I think you'll be fine. At most, you may want to touch it up again with the flat iron in places but overall it will be fine.
I did the treatment on Thursday night, Saturday & Sunday I did a yoga workshop and no way was I letting all this hair go free. I twisted it up on top of my head, no problems with dents or frizz.
Are you graduating? Congratulations!!!
Dak
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Thank you Dak, she hasn't sent it at all she said it was held up at customs after she told me it was packaged up and ready to go last Saturday.
I placed an order with the vendor that Cutenss used to get her BKT on Ebay I should have it Saturday. Needless to say I'm miffed about the "mix-up" with my order.
Customs? She's in Texas, you're in Atlanta, right? That's bizarre. Too bad, she doesn't seem very serious about her business if she's sending shipping notifications then not shipping... Not good.
AtlantaJJ
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I read if you get any crimps or crinkles during your 4 day period to flat iron them back straight again. Perhaps that will work with the cap imprint.I'm sad you didn't get yours.
I was thinking about Friday night, but I have graduation ceremony to attend Sunday afternoon and am worried about having that cap on my head.
Do you all think that the cap will be bad to put on?
Kacie
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TJMaxx/Marshalls has Babyliss Pro ($25) and Rusk ($30) flat irons. The Babyliss has a max temp of 450 and the Rusk has a max of 446.
PinkSkates
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AtlantaJJ, I'm sorry about your delay, but I am patiently awaiting for you to take the BKT dive. Keep us posted!
Rapunzel*
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thanks so you would recommend these two over the gpv at sallys?
i need to hit up tj's
thanks for the feedback
Kacie
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thanks so you would recommend these two over the gpv at sallys?
i need to hit up tj's
thanks for the feedback
I have that Sally's Chi iron and it's just ok. Plus the max temp is only about 410 if I remember correctly. I'm positive that it doesn't go up to 450. I purchased the Babyliss to use exclusively for BKT, whenever I decide to actually apply it.
sheba1
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Hey Jayjaycurlz, I'm 4a/b natural and used the Global Keratin 2%. You can see the results of my first and second treatment in my fotki.
Have you seen Brittany's channel on Youtube? I know she uses the Global 4% and has been for over a year. You can check out her channel here.
Hot dog! Great advice, thanks Nomoweaves!
tnorenberg
Active Member
I just bought that sh/co at The Vitamin Shoppe today. They have the new reformulated one w/ Keratin as the second ingredient on the co.
Dak
Well-Known Member
Are you sure it will be OK? I just googled the ingredients:
Keratin Shampoo&Conditioner, Mill Creek (16 oz.)
The Best of Nature for Nourished Beauty. Keratin Shampoo with Panthenol, Rosemary and Chamomile. Keratin, the primary protein of your hair, contains the essential amino acids needed for healthy-looking, shiny hair. Keratin and Panthenol coat each individual strand of hair to smooth and protect. Infused with precious herbs, our Repair formula will give your hair renewed inner strength for greater elasticity, reduced breakage and a natural, healthy bounce. Your hair will shine and finally behave with regular use of this rich, gentle cleanser. Repair formula, improves elasticity, pH balanced.
Ingredients:
Deionized Water, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cocamide DEA, Panthenol (provitamin B5), Hydrolyzed Keratin, Henna Extract, Chamomile Extract, Nettle Extract, Rosemary Extract, Comfrey Extract, Quillaja Extract, Barley Extract, Balsam Peru, Apple Pectin, Allantoin, Sodium Caseinate, Zinc Chloride, Magnesium Citrate, Disodium EDTA, Tocopherol (vitamin E), Octyl Dimethyl PABA, Citric Acid, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Imidazolindinyl Urea, Fragrance, Caramel.
Shouldn't we avoid Sodium Laureth Sulfate?
Keratin Shampoo&Conditioner, Mill Creek (16 oz.)
The Best of Nature for Nourished Beauty. Keratin Shampoo with Panthenol, Rosemary and Chamomile. Keratin, the primary protein of your hair, contains the essential amino acids needed for healthy-looking, shiny hair. Keratin and Panthenol coat each individual strand of hair to smooth and protect. Infused with precious herbs, our Repair formula will give your hair renewed inner strength for greater elasticity, reduced breakage and a natural, healthy bounce. Your hair will shine and finally behave with regular use of this rich, gentle cleanser. Repair formula, improves elasticity, pH balanced.
Ingredients:
Deionized Water, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cocamide DEA, Panthenol (provitamin B5), Hydrolyzed Keratin, Henna Extract, Chamomile Extract, Nettle Extract, Rosemary Extract, Comfrey Extract, Quillaja Extract, Barley Extract, Balsam Peru, Apple Pectin, Allantoin, Sodium Caseinate, Zinc Chloride, Magnesium Citrate, Disodium EDTA, Tocopherol (vitamin E), Octyl Dimethyl PABA, Citric Acid, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Imidazolindinyl Urea, Fragrance, Caramel.
Shouldn't we avoid Sodium Laureth Sulfate?
Rapunzel*
New Member
thanks so much!
im going to tj max once i decide whether or not to get the BKT done. i want to so bad though
tnorenberg
Active Member
Dak
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Sodium Chloride= salt that will strip the Keratin coating from the hair. In general it is good to avoid shampoos with SLS but not really necessary for BKT. But if you find one w/ high keratin and w/o SLS PLEASE let me know.
The instructions I got from the seller from eBay (lonestar beauty) said to avoid both sodium chloride & sulfates, which has not been easy to find.
sheba1
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Since my BKTs I bounce back and forth between cowashing and Mill Creek Biotin Shampoo:
Deionized water, biotin, hydrolyzed keratin, peppermint oil, hydrolyzed elastin, niacin, folic acid, panthenol (provitamin B5), organic aloe vera gel, organic essential oil, jojoba oil, inositol, barley extract, sodium myreth sulfate, cocamidopropyl betaine (coconut oil), octyl dimethyl PABA, styrene / acrylates copolymer, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, botanical fragrance.
As you can see it does have sodium myreth sulfate, but it's lower on the list of ingredients. It doesn't sud much and I'm thinking of pouring it into a bottle with added oil to make it even more gentle. So far I haven't had any issue.
If you look for products that say "safe for colored hair" and "natural" it will lead you closer to the products that you want for bkt'd hair.
Deionized water, biotin, hydrolyzed keratin, peppermint oil, hydrolyzed elastin, niacin, folic acid, panthenol (provitamin B5), organic aloe vera gel, organic essential oil, jojoba oil, inositol, barley extract, sodium myreth sulfate, cocamidopropyl betaine (coconut oil), octyl dimethyl PABA, styrene / acrylates copolymer, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, botanical fragrance.
As you can see it does have sodium myreth sulfate, but it's lower on the list of ingredients. It doesn't sud much and I'm thinking of pouring it into a bottle with added oil to make it even more gentle. So far I haven't had any issue.
If you look for products that say "safe for colored hair" and "natural" it will lead you closer to the products that you want for bkt'd hair.
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