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"Jesus answered, I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6.I don't think salvation through Jesus Christ is the only way to get to heaven.
"Jesus answered, I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6.I don't think salvation through Jesus Christ is the only way to get to heaven.
TrustMeLove said:A couple of you sisters on this board are strong.
BlackBarbie and Alexstin just to name a couple. I really pray that the Lord continues to encourage, strengthen, and guide you in the word of the Lord God Almighty. May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you in all truth and righteousness.
My only comment is that the Lord will finish the work that he has begun in his children. We can't change or futher something that was started in the Spirit with the natural. I have come to realized no matter how much scripture I pull out hebrew or greek translation if someone does not have the ears to hear than its of no use. Speak it and live it and let the Lord do the rest.
Remember to continue to spread Gods great message in love (which you are doing) and continue to plant seeds and allow him to do the watering/growing/maturing.
My short example. My friend believed everyone goes to heaven who accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior. I disagree with this belief. I told her why and brought out the scripture. She said she still believed everyone goes to Heaven. I left it at that. A couple months later during her own time studying the bible, she calls me ecstatic. She read in some passage why not everyone goes to heaven just because they believe and the idea of a 3 fold delieverance. I don't know where this came from, but the Holy Spirit lead her in that truth. It really showed me that I can plant seeds but I must let God handle the rest and just how awesome the Holy Spirit is to guide us in our walk with Christ.
May all of you lovely Sistas continue or began to walk in the perfect will of the Lord.
mkh_77 said:And for those people who NEVER had the chance to hear of Jesus during their lifetime? What about those people?
Zeal said:AMEN!!!!
Being that God gave me a sense of humor.... I am picking my pearls up and I am out. While I'm at it.... How did this dust get on my feet?
TrustMeLove said:Hahaha Ohhh girl you be in your word dontcha. lol I said that all churchy too. Girl get out before fire and brimstone hit the thread. hahaha You are crazy. Get away from the mud before you get dirty too. Don't mess up your outfit out there trying to feed no swine and fall into the mud yourself.
Disclaimer: Thread directed at Zeal only. No name calling on my behalf. I apologize to any who are offended. Jokes.
alexstin said:It doesn't change how I see nonChristians. Jesus hung out with the "scum of the earth" the people everyone hated. If I as a Christian wouldn't be caught dead having a nonsaved person over for dinner for instance then I have missed His message. I do believe in "hanging out" with nonChristians but it is a ministry. I would relate to an unbeliever in an entirely different way. An unbeliever would not/could not be my best friend but can we go shopping together, can we share a meal........for sure.
Not because I'm better but I'm not compromising for the sake of relationship(and eventuall no matter how "good" that unsaved person is, something in their life will cause you to compromise IF you let it) so just as some came to Jesus and received what He had to say others sadly walked away because they weren't willing to make adjustments in their life to walk with the Lord.
Jesus' inner circle was made up of people who believed He was Lord and lived a life accordingly(accept for Judas obviously). Jesus is the bridegroom and "the church" is the bride. Now, why is it that not just anyone can be a bride of Christ? You have to believe before you become a part of Him. If Jesus says that believers are His bride, though He ministered to everyone ,then do you really think He would want a believer to take an unbeliever as sposue?
sithembile said:I agree with this. As a believer, Jesus is the most important person in my life. If I were to choose an unbeliever, then we would not have much in common because I try to live my everyday life based on the Word of God, I love God passionately, and I'd want the person I'd become "one" with to share my passion. I'd want my husband to encourage and lead me in my faith. I'd find it hard to obey God and submit to a man who is not submissive to God. I just don't see how it could work for me. That is why Paul asks what light has in common with darkness. The Bible also states "Can 2 walk together unless they be agreed?"
lauren450 said:Interesting thread. I couldn't be married to a non-believer. I've been in a non-marriage relationship with one, and it was a complete mess.
However, it may work for some people. It may be ordained for some, for ministry purposes, and I am not one to judge that.
I also agree that some scriptures are taken out of context, but I'll leave that be.
BTW ladies, husbands and wives are to submit to eachother.
cocoberry10 said:Do you all believe this is possible? I am not married yet, but I wonder if God would only put me with a Christian. I know we are to love our neighbors.
So, do you all believe that the right person could be Muslim or some other faith? I know the Christian ministers would say no, but I know couples who have had successful marriages, but are not of the same faith.
BerrySweet said:This a such a good thread, and everyone is getting along so well. I believe I could be with someone who was non-Christian, but best believe my children will be Christian. If that wouldn't work, then the relationship wouldn't. I'm all for everyone believing what they choose, but for as long as I can' I'll show my children my beliefs.
Sweet C said:I belive that it is possible for God to show you someone who is to be your spouse who is not a Christian or saved. But that doesn’t mean you go and date them and marry them, because we as believers must line everything up with the Word of God and his timing or season for the matter (Ecc. 3:1).
The scripture gives clear warning against marrying unbelievers, so the God-sent spouse would need to be a believer before dating and especially before marriage. In the OT, this command was given to the children of Israel in the Deut 7:3-4 not to marry foreignors, and is reiterated in other sections as well. Not only do we see the devastating affects of when great leaders of the Bible do this like Sampson, Solomon, and Ahab, but when you peruse the scripture, you see clear examples of when God’s people chose to be disobedient and married people who did not serve God, and the devastating effects it had on them and their seed (i.e. Judges 3, 1 Kings 11, Ezra 10, etc.). In the NT, Paul addresses in the letters to the church at Corinth (1 and 2 Corinthians) how to deal and handle issues of sexual immorality and marriage in the church. We have the scripture that tells us not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers (2 Cor 6), which is not specifically about marriage, but is inclusive of any area where you will be bonded with an unbeliever, which includes marriage along with certain business deals, fellowships, etc, that would lead you to compromise your relationship with God. When animals like oxen are yoked (bonded) together, it was done so that there strength could be used together. When two animals are yoked together equally, they can use their strength together and more work can be accomplished with them working together. However, when you have two oxen that are not equally yoked, the two actually work against each other and the slower ox can actually break the back of the stronger because of the strain. Marriage is a life yoke. If you marry someone who doesn’t believe, the same effect that happens with the unequally yoked oxen is the same thing that happens in marriage.
trinidarkie1 said:I am a Christian and my husband was raised a catholic. He calls himself a non-practising catholic.
When we met, I hadnt been going to church for a long time, and I still havent been going. However, I'd say from then to now, my relationship with the Lord and my understanding of who God is has grown and changed so much, and shaped me.
I dont consider my husband an unbeliever. We've had talks about what we believe as 'christians'. I'm not a catholic and I dont believe in their ways of worship/doctrine. Neither does he, but imo, he still doesnt have that personal relationship with Christ.
I'd say though, the problems that we encounter, or that he brings to the relationship would have been no different if he was a 'born again believer'. I can bet money on that.
our issues dont surround our beliefs.
I trust God for a great and prosperous marriage and I pray all the time.
I would say though that having a husband who actively seeks God's face would be a great benefit for me.
I can only speak for my marriage and relationships in the past. And although I am a Christian and we share similar beliefs about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit; we still have a lot of growing to do, and the situations I have seen God put before us to work through is a constant reminder of how much he is real in our lives and that regardless of what his organized religion is; prayer changes things, and he is moving us to trust in HIm more and more each day.
Are Catholics not Christians?trinidarkie1 said:I am a Christian and my husband was raised a catholic. He calls himself a non-practising catholic.
When we met, I hadnt been going to church for a long time, and I still havent been going. However, I'd say from then to now, my relationship with the Lord and my understanding of who God is has grown and changed so much, and shaped me.
I dont consider my husband an unbeliever. We've had talks about what we believe as 'christians'. I'm not a catholic and I dont believe in their ways of worship/doctrine. Neither does he, but imo, he still doesnt have that personal relationship with Christ.
I'd say though, the problems that we encounter, or that he brings to the relationship would have been no different if he was a 'born again believer'. I can bet money on that.
our issues dont surround our beliefs.
I trust God for a great and prosperous marriage and I pray all the time.
I would say though that having a husband who actively seeks God's face would be a great benefit for me.
I can only speak for my marriage and relationships in the past. And although I am a Christian and we share similar beliefs about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit; we still have a lot of growing to do, and the situations I have seen God put before us to work through is a constant reminder of how much he is real in our lives and that regardless of what his organized religion is; prayer changes things, and he is moving us to trust in HIm more and more each day.
Of course not one can guarntee that, but I will raise my children in a Christian household. Believe what you will.Sweet C said:How can you guarantee that you children will be Christian? Even 2 believers together can't guarantee that one. If you marry someone who is not a believer, they will have equal opportunity to raise their children in their belief system as you do. Even if the person "guarantees" that before you marry, that they will allow their children to be raised in a Christian household, that is highly likely to change once you have children, and even if it doesn't then, your children will undoubtely ask questions to your spouse, and their answers might not reflect what the Bible says.
BerrySweet said:Of course not one can guarntee that, but I will raise my children in a Christian household. Believe what you will.
EbonyEyes said:My life revolves around God and Jesus. I try to study the word daily. And I love having people around me that love Jesus. I personally could not marry someone who is not a Christian.
A friend of mine is trying to hook me up with his godbrother. I told him that it's not going to happen because his godbrother is not a Christian. My friend says "I hear what you're saying but isn't it better to have a non-Christian that respects you and loves you than a Christian that treats you like dirt?"
I had to tell him that first of all a man that treats me like dirt is not being Christ-like. And then I asked him "Isn't it possible that God can provide me with someone who is a Christian AND loves and respects me? Why can't I have all of that?"
My uncle is Christian and has been married to my aunt for 20 years and she's Hindu. It's been working for them I guess. But just because it's working for them doesn't mean that I should put myself in that type of situation.
Definately raise your children in a Christian household.
My mom has a friend that is a devout Christian and raised her son in a Christian household. He's an adult now and he doesn't believe in God at all.
It happens...It's sad but it happens.