I posted this link a while ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIyokqxVWlo. I could not find the thread to bump it. Anyways, I tried this method and I really like it. I didn't post pics cuz I woke up really early to work out so the curls fell a little and plus I'm tied of looking a hot mess in my pics lol. I only did 8 total but I'm sure if I did around 12-16 they would have stayed better post work out. I think I will alternate between the way in my fotki and this way for looser curls. I don't follow the directions exactly, I curl the hair around my index finger instead of the index and middle and use the middle finger to keep the hair taunt while rolling. Anyone else try it this way yet?