Hmmm...the truth behind Domincan blowouts? They have some serious "bad hair" issues!

[Dogmd]

Very intersting article. Thanks for posting this!!

 

[blue_flower]

All of this reminds me of the story about the "white" couple who had a black child through artificial insemination (I think). The mother was Dominican, but when you saw the picture of the family it was obvious the mother was black.

 

[Wildchild453]

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I think that everyone here is not offended by the idea of people in DR and the rest of the Americas purposely straightening their hair. Its the fact that these people seem to be knowledgable, educated on the ramifications of their actions, yet don't care. We are probably not used to seeing such a blantant divide in a nation full of blacks. Plus, a lot of what was said was so incidious and dispiciable. Like, the statement about big butts? Unneccesarily foolish and deluded. Can i ask a question of some of you all? For the ones who know people who are married to black latina(o)s, how do their spouse of in-laws regard them, black or latina? Do they see a difference between themselves and their spouse, or do they follow the "okie-doke"? What do they say when their partners make statements regarding race that clear objectify them as their mate? I know some of you have responded, but did these relationships work out?

Really? In this nation alone, we had the paper bag test that determined whether certain Blacks could get into certain groups. Hell on this board we seperate...do guys like us dark skin or light skin?

 

[bravenewgirl87]

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Really? In this nation alone, we had the paper bag test that determined whether certain Blacks could get into certain groups. Hell on this board we seperate...do guys like us dark skin or light skin?

Yea... but people are still shock. You also have to understand that much of the people here probably assumed that life across the ocean was better and that people were probably more afrocentric than in america. The paper bag test was so long ago, so many people just assumed that those particular ways of thinking were extinct.

 

[frankie]

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Wow!!! I guess my vsiting the Dominican Republic window of opportunity has CLOSED given that I'm "too" dark, and since I'm going natural they'd never accept my "bad hair".

 

[Bint Yusef]

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THIS IS SO SO SO SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well. I'm still waiting 'cause 85 % of us are black!!! erplexed

My son is a 3 year old self proclaim sweet dark chocolate, so he knows the black is beautiful, 'cause that's what we are teaching him. Yes, he's the "dark/black" grandson (the not so cute) but my relatives know that they will have to accept him and never ever even try to make him feel bad about the way God made him or they will not be part of his life period.

I have not problem is race or skin color, I've always loved curly/natural hair and if you read my post you will see that is true.

It hurts to read this article but that's the way it is, the only thing I can do is teach my children the right things and hope they will do the same to my grandchildren.
Time, education and love are the only things that can make a difference in my country

BTW!!!!!!!!!! My son is very cute

I appreciate you posting your persepctive and speaking up about your culture. Its nice to have some balance as I feel that some people in this post are going too far and falling for the okey doke of taking an article as absolute truth knowing full well if an article posted about AAs were put on here they would be the first saying all of us arent like that.

And yes your son is very beautiful, and perefect in the way that he was created and meant to be.

 

[cubanit]

Frankie
Thats to bad.Your gonna miss out on a wonderful time. All because the opinions of 3 people versus 12 million. If you really where interseted in visiting Id do a little more reading about latin culture maybe talk to some folks in my community, visit a bodega( spanish store) or two, take a couple dance lessons, eat some Arroz con pollo ,little reggaeton and see if you still have the same felling about us that

 

[tatje]

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Cool!!!!!!!! Then, we will have the cutest grandbabies

Your baby is so handsome. I wish I was 3. I'm just playing.


The problem is not with just Dominicans. I see that many want to attack dominicans because of the article. It's everywhere. My friend who is identifies herself as Mexican (even though she is half black and half mexican), had a baby with her ex boyfriend who was Trinidadian. He was "dark," and she had a honey complexion. When she was pregnant her thoughts were constantly on " I hope my daughter gets my hair. Not his nappy hair. etc." She was about a 3c.

So this is all over and not just with Dominicans or to look down at them. The article is sad and probably a representation of a small amount of Dominicans not all. When some who says something ignorant is black, that person should not represent my thoughts also. We have all seen it on the tyra show and so forth.

All Glory to God.

 

[la flaca]

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Your baby is so handsome. I wish I was 3. I'm just playing.


The problem is not with just Dominicans. I see that many want to attack dominicans because of the article. It's everywhere. My friend who is identifies herself as Mexican (even though she is half black and half mexican), had a baby with her ex boyfriend who was Trinidadian. He was "dark," and she had a honey complexion. When she was pregnant her thoughts were constantly on " I hope my daughter gets my hair. Not his nappy hair. etc." She was about a 3c.

So this is all over and not just with Dominicans or to look down at them. The article is sad and probably a representation of a small amount of Dominicans not all. When some who says something ignorant is black, that person should not represent my thoughts also. We have all seen it on the tyra show and so forth.

All Glory to God.

Thanks tatje, my son is a gift from heaven



Ok. Ladies let's go back to HAIR I am not having fun anymore

 

[bravenewgirl87]

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Thanks tatje, my son is a gift from heaven



Ok. Ladies let's go back to HAIR I am not having fun anymore

NOOOOOOOOOO! We're just gonna keep bashing you. I was always looking for a chance to get on your case...

YOU ****! WHY IS YOUR HAIR SO HOT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO IT? ITS YOUR FAULT!!!! arrrrrrrrgh!

 

[miss Congeniality]

This is no big surprise for me. I remember once when I went to get my eyebrows waxed. The lady (domincan) told me that I could be pretty if I let her put a relaxer in my hair. Plus, I wouldn't want to go there. The relationship between them and the Haitians is something I wouldn't want to witness.

 

[Candy1978]

That is really deep, but I already knew that to betrue from living in Miami, Latin people are in deep denial of there black roots, and racism is just as ramapt if not more so. It is crazy

 

[SerenavanderWoodsen]

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O boy,, this explains alot........ its funny, I happen to be half black and half white,jamaican/euro... and i used to go to a dominican hairdresser who tore my hair up so badly,, im a 3b/c and she was probably a 4a/b and i recall her saying how she wished she had ny hair and if she did shed never relax it and even that my hair was"white"!!! i never for a moment thought of her as self hating or black hating,,, this article sheds new light on it..

 

[Guyaneek]

Blatant ignorance and I am a little surprised. Sad

 

[Guyaneek]

Sorry, duplicate post

 

[coconow2007]

I wasn't surprised but I am disappointed that people of color continue to classify their worth based on the hue of their skintone and texture of their hair.

 

[Ariana4000]

I'm not surprised. I've heard this stuff before. I've heard Cubans, Dominicans, Jamaicans and even Koreans and Indians go on about color and hair texture. It is surprising.

 

[Lady Esquire]

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I saw this article on blackvoices. The title read Black denial in Dominican or Latin Countries. I ALWAYS wanted to travel to Central America or Spain. I've heard some things here and there about Latin America and their racism but this just made me extremely sad.

I really wanted to visit Central America and Spain. Now I'm not too sure. this has really painted a bad picture of latin american culture for me....

DR is in the Caribbean, where there is a strong African, European, and highly mixed races. Spain is in Europe where the majorirty have a Caucasian phenotype. Central America mainly has the Caucasian phenotype but it depends on what country...for instance Argentina, Columbia, Peru they do not have as much mixing...but Brazil has a lot of mixing of the races. So do not let this one-sided article deter you from visiting a beautiful island like DR or other places...girl, the latin american culture is as complex as the american culture...and that ain't stopping no one from visiting here...

 

[ButterflyCurls]

I agree with everyone here...I myself have dominican roots and had know idea what was going on 'till I would visit my neighbors who were Dominican and go to the salon. My family never imposed those teaching in my family because we range from all shades and I was never forced to straighten my hair or anything. I think it is insane but sadly true because of what America and Europe has done to many countries...even in India notice that all the actresses and singers tend to be lighter skinned.What makes that ideal so dum is that when it comes down to it...no matter how much more you resemble a white person, we are all black to them. I'm just soooo glad I grew up in America and not DR so I could have self hate. I actually when I was younger admired everything more on AA's roots... I never had the blonde blue eyed barbie. I think amongst the newer generation there is more awareness with cultures and the more educated are starting to realize that it is a European and American imposed ideal in order to have control of the countries. Once you realize that, than it all falls into place. I wouldn't let articles like that bother me because while they are still struggling with the truth I'm growing and learning with an awareness of who I am and proud of it.

Not all Dominicans think like this...
I've also notice in countries where Americans seems to have little influence tend to lack ideals like these such as Cuba (America does not recognize cuba's communist Gov't treats its citizens great compared to america) and Canada where American media is limited. These countries have less ideals of racism especially noted in the media they watch.

 

[itismehmmkay]

Just wanted to say that this holds everywhere. It's not just a Black vs. White thing it's a Black vs. Non-black thing with the goal to be anything but Black. Period. Things are getting better though w/ each passing generation, as bad ideas just have to wash out of the pool.

 

[zora]

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DR is in the Caribbean, where there is a strong African, European, and highly mixed races. Spain is in Europe where the majorirty have a Caucasian phenotype. Central America mainly has the Caucasian phenotype but it depends on what country...for instance Argentina, Columbia, Peru they do not have as much mixing...but Brazil has a lot of mixing of the races. So do not let this one-sided article deter you from visiting a beautiful island like DR or other places...girl, the latin american culture is as complex as the american culture...and that ain't stopping no one from visiting here...

I think you meant 'South America'.

 

[iCandey]

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I am not surprised at all anymore though at first I was very sad to learn of the racism in Latin America?DR. I learned alot from a former hairstylist who was Dom and understood her spanish when she mentioned her m in law loving her childs white skin. Also when I went natural and asked her she did natural hair I never heard back? (this article explains it Things are deep in other cultures and I think since they didnt have a Civil Rights movement like we did that is why they are so far behind US blacks... you really have to see it for what it is...IGNORANCE...rise above it and dont feel sad about this article ...hopefully bringing it to light will let it start to heal..

 

[Ms Lala]

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I am not surprised at all anymore though at first I was very sad to learn of the racism in Latin America?DR. I learned alot from a former hairstylist who was Dom and understood her spanish when she mentioned her m in law loving her childs white skin. Also when I went natural and asked her she did natural hair I never heard back? (this article explains it Things are deep in other cultures and I think since they didnt have a Civil Rights movement like we did that is why they are so far behind US blacks... you really have to see it for what it is...IGNORANCE...rise above it and dont feel sad about this article ...hopefully bringing it to light will let it start to heal..

You must be kidding. I can't tell you how much ignorant stuff I hear from my fellow black AMericans in regard to skin tone and hair texture ("african booty scratcher", "you got ***** hair", "when you gone comb your hair". I am a natural and I get all kinds of unnecessary crazy comments. We SHOULD be more progressive as a people and are not. Just like ANY culture of African heritage that has been colonized you will have color and hair issues present, but it doesn't mean that ALL of the people or even the majority hold that point of view. That story could easily have been written about folks here in the US.

 

[spiceykitten]

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Lady Esquire, do not mean to correct you but there has been mixing in those countries. I should know because I teach Latin American history on the university level and I am Guyanese with family in Venezuela and Suriname.

In Peru, did you know there was a lot of Chinese brought to do hard labor. So there are people who mixed with Chinese blood. A lot of people are also mestizos and my friends and neighbor down the street does not look white. They look like indians or a mixture.

My friend from Colombia, whom I have known for over 15 years does not look white and her sister has type 3 hair. Did you know there is a nice size of blacks there.

Now in Argentina, they are mostly Europeans and it has a huge European flair but then there are also plenty of mestizos and I have know of blacks in this region but very very few.

I think people have a perception of what the Americas look like but have no idea how much the African culture and blood has touched these countries. Even in Costa Rica there is a nice size black community and most people in Central America do not look white, their skin is dark. Girl, do not believe the beauty pageants you see on tv or what you may see on Univision. Most Latin stations in the US is owned by the Mexicans.

As far as I am concern we are all colored in the Americas (Caribbean and Latin America), except for the Europeans that did not mix. Mixing has gone on for so long and in the Americas the crossing from one country to another has also been prevalent. Do you know how many Haitans and Jamaicans went to Cuba years ago? A lot. We are all like one family but with different cultures and traditions.


When I teach my students they are like Whoa! In fact, they are even more like Whoa when I teach them that some Latin countries have more blacks than some non Spanish speaking countries.

 

[sunnydaze]

I believe blacks everywhere have these same issues period. We are no further ahead or behind those in other countries.

 

[bravenewgirl87]

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I just wanted to let all the afro-latins know that I changed my siggy for them. Its just a way to lighten this thread up. I don't think its fair for us to ask people to change viewpoints that are indoctrinated into a particular culture because we don't agree. I don't think its fair for us to make others change an opinion that they have held onto for their whole lives. If people want to get "good" bi-racial hair.. hell, let them. What difference does it make in my life what you do with you and yours? When people say racially-sensitive or offensive or sensitive things around me, i just cut them off completely or just move on. Its not my duty to condemn others for theirs. I think at LHCF, we tend to lose sight of whats most important-->> hair growth. So, get a good laugh off the siggy because i am changing it later on today.

 

[PhonyBaloney500]

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This is nothing new. I've known about this for YEARS and I live nowhere near a dominican population. But why is this so shocking? The same thing happens in the US, people just aren't as blunt about it. Straight hair is always given more preference. Just because some black women are choosing to embrace their natural hair doesn't mean that the stigma is gone. Almost every black woman I know is relaxed, or at least heat straightens her hair. I'm not linking relaxing to self-hatred. I appreciate straight hair, wavy hair, curly hair, kinky hair, etc...and i want to try all styles. But come on, my fellow Americans, you already know the deal. A black woman is expected to have straight hair if she wants to be considered attractive within the black community. And if her hair is natural, it must be like type 3 hair. How many celebrity short haired 4a/b women are men drooling over these days?

You took the words right outta my mouth!

 

[Desert Skye]

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So, get a good laugh off the siggy because i am changing it later on today.

Well now hold on a minute here...before you do that, can you tell me who he is and what issue of Cosmo he is in?...

ETA: Oh wait I recognize him now. He is the same guy you had before. Hehe ok what issue is that picture in?

 

[bravenewgirl87]

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Well now hold on a minute here...before you do that, can you tell me who he is and what issue of Cosmo he is in?...

ETA: Oh wait I recognize him now. He is the same guy you had before. Hehe ok what issue is that picture in?

Gosh darn You! learn your sexy asian models and celebrities:

The guy befooooore was Michael Copon, from The N's "Beyond the Break". This guy is famous filipino actor Luis Manzano.

Get IT RIGHT! I mean, what are you trying to say... all ASIANS look alike? HUH?

 

[foxy_brown]

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Maria Elena Polanca is a black woman with the striking good looks. She said most Dominicans look at her with curiosity, as if a black woman being beautiful were something strange.

It's not just dominicans who are surprised that a dark woman can be beautiful. Some black and hispanic men right here in the US tend to be surprised when a dark woman with nappy hair looks good. When I used to go to primarily black and hispanic bars in the neighborhood you would see that look of shock on the guys' faces and then they would recover - in fact one guy once said "wow, you're dark and you still look good". It doesn't bother me though since I am not trying to date the type of guy who would be "surprised". Sometimes in social situations one of these guys will look at me, pass and then move on, but then when some white or asian guy starts checking me out or talking to me then he will turn around again suddenly interested and trying to catch my eye just as if he hadn't seen me before. It's hilarious.