YvetteWithJoy
On break
Thanks! Super clear and helpful!
Hip Tbl & Beyond Challenge 2018
- Thread starter ElevatedEnergy
- Start date
Thanks! Super clear and helpful!
Nightingale
On the Grow and Keeping it Simple
You're welcome.
I forgot to mention natural greases. They are oils made solid with waxes, not petro. Example, Hairveda Almond Glaze Grease Pomade: Prunis Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Euphorbia Cerifera (Candelilla) Wax, Phthalate Free (Parfume) Fragrance.
I'll add that to original post,
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Thanks a bunch for adding this, 'cause I was like, "Well, that is a no on grease, then." But I would definitely try the natural product above.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Health:
I ate very well today. Sweet potato hash and lentil soup. Water consumption was just so-so. Needs to be upped. I'm still drinking my daily morning detox drink and adding collagen with hyaluronic (sp?) acid.
Hair:
The foam/mousse I used to set that attempted crimper curler set gave my hair a dry, tacky feeling. Had to remove it! So today at 3:00 PM I applied SM's hipo masque to my dry hair and twisted it up. Had my hair feeling amazing! Only took 32 minutes to detangle and twist up my hair. I looooooooove that stuff. It's magic for my hair. I left it in under a thermal cap for about 15 minutes. After that I washed my scalp with SM Clear Start Shampoo (discontinued; from the professional line). Then twist-by-twist in the shower I rinsed out the DC, applied Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion, and retwisted.
Once out of the shower, I let my hair dry some, then twist by twist I untwistd it, applied Camille Rose Naturals Coconut Water Style Setter to the section, and installed two flexirods per twist.
I'm still working on my technique. Some flexirods contain very smooth hair, some contain hair that is clearly 4a (still looks coily on the rod).
I think my hair is basically neck length in the front and a little past collar bone length in the back.
(Photos enlarge upon click.)
I ate very well today. Sweet potato hash and lentil soup. Water consumption was just so-so. Needs to be upped. I'm still drinking my daily morning detox drink and adding collagen with hyaluronic (sp?) acid.
Hair:
The foam/mousse I used to set that attempted crimper curler set gave my hair a dry, tacky feeling. Had to remove it! So today at 3:00 PM I applied SM's hipo masque to my dry hair and twisted it up. Had my hair feeling amazing! Only took 32 minutes to detangle and twist up my hair. I looooooooove that stuff. It's magic for my hair. I left it in under a thermal cap for about 15 minutes. After that I washed my scalp with SM Clear Start Shampoo (discontinued; from the professional line). Then twist-by-twist in the shower I rinsed out the DC, applied Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion, and retwisted.
Once out of the shower, I let my hair dry some, then twist by twist I untwistd it, applied Camille Rose Naturals Coconut Water Style Setter to the section, and installed two flexirods per twist.
I'm still working on my technique. Some flexirods contain very smooth hair, some contain hair that is clearly 4a (still looks coily on the rod).
I think my hair is basically neck length in the front and a little past collar bone length in the back.
(Photos enlarge upon click.)
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YvetteWithJoy
On break
Update:
I can make a few improvements in technique, but the flexirod set came out decent. Hubby likes it!
(Photo enlarges upon click.)
I can make a few improvements in technique, but the flexirod set came out decent. Hubby likes it!
(Photo enlarges upon click.)
Alma Petra
Well-Known Member
Hi guys I would like to join this challenge please! I have been lurking and reading avidly for quite some time now. I think that it's by time that I formally join.
First the rules:
1. I do have low levels of ferritin and vitamin D and I'm currently taking supplements to correct them.
2. I usually do not allow myself to stress too much or for too long over all the mishaps that happen in my life.
3. I am trying to eat as healthy as possible. But I mostly get my H2O from diet coke. I can't lie
The specifics:
Current length:
Grazing BSL
Regimen:
The basic regimen is to cowash once per week, wear my WnG for 2 days and then bun it up for 5 days.
But I'm finding myself cowashing more often and trying different styles which I think is too much manipulation. I will try to be more disciplined.
Exact goal length:
TBL overall but for this specific challenge it's WHip length (in truth it's WL for 2018 but I'll say WHip to sneak myself into this challenge. WHip is close to Hip isn't it?
)
Plans to help you achieve your goal:
Less manipulation, more protection to my ends. Keep hair moisturized and happy.
List any vitamins/supplements you are taking:
Iron, vitamin D, hair and nail vitamins with silica and MSM.
I have some collagen caplets on the way.
And I have also ordered the Xcel 21 spray, but I may only apply that to my poor edges.
Your ends care regimen to keep them healthy:
Nothing special other than tucking them away in a bun. The last few inches of my ends are damaged beyond repair and just need to go in due time.
Trimming/Dusting/S&D'ing schedule/routine:
I gave myself a cut of maybe 2 inches or so about a month ago and I want to hold on to the remaining length for some time, so I will not be cutting any time soon. Plus I just did a random cutting of the ends of my bantu knots. I don't know how to properly cut let alone dust my hair. And I'm not at all ready to let a stylist cut my hair. I have only gone to a stylist a few times in my whole life and it was not for a cut, so I don't know.
Top 10 products:
1. Co-wash: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Conditioner (the love of my life
) Apparently my hair adores silicones 
2. Shampoo: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Shampoo (I use it occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it and contrary to all the other shampoos I have tried it does not strip my hair)
3. Oil rinse: sunflower oil. I do this step occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it.
4. Leave-in: I know that for my hair the leave-in is the most important product. But I'm still experimenting to find a HG. Oyin hair dew and Camille Rose both work very well for me but they are expensive and not readily available. I want to experiment with other products before I give in and just keep importing them. I have a few rinse out conditioners to experiment with. But I will not leave in something that doesn't play well with my gels. I have also ordered a few actual leave-in products and will try them once they arrive. We will see.
5. Sealing: I have a cheap blend of mineral oil and argan oil that works well but I'm going to experiment with jojoba and grapeseed oils. I top the oil with a light grease, currently Palmer's Coconut Hairdress. These tend to last forever. I want to try a butter-type product as well in the future.
6. Styler: due to the texlaxing and relaxing mess, my curl pattern is very weak and I need a lot of strong-hold stylers. My core product is Wetline Xtreme gel. It gives a strong hold; I can actually get second day hair which is an achievement for me. It also SOTCs out perfectly so no crunsh. I use KCCC (Kinky Curly Curling Custard) underneath because of the slip, and sometimes a mouse as well underneath. And last time I topped them all with BRHG (Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee) with which I'm experimenting currently.
For setting I can use the same stylers or a weak-hold AVG that I love.
Did I mention too many products?
First the rules:
1. I do have low levels of ferritin and vitamin D and I'm currently taking supplements to correct them.
2. I usually do not allow myself to stress too much or for too long over all the mishaps that happen in my life.
3. I am trying to eat as healthy as possible. But I mostly get my H2O from diet coke. I can't lie
The specifics:
Current length:
Grazing BSL
Regimen:
The basic regimen is to cowash once per week, wear my WnG for 2 days and then bun it up for 5 days.
But I'm finding myself cowashing more often and trying different styles which I think is too much manipulation. I will try to be more disciplined.
Exact goal length:
TBL overall but for this specific challenge it's WHip length (in truth it's WL for 2018 but I'll say WHip to sneak myself into this challenge. WHip is close to Hip isn't it?
)Plans to help you achieve your goal:
Less manipulation, more protection to my ends. Keep hair moisturized and happy.
List any vitamins/supplements you are taking:
Iron, vitamin D, hair and nail vitamins with silica and MSM.
I have some collagen caplets on the way.
And I have also ordered the Xcel 21 spray, but I may only apply that to my poor edges.
Your ends care regimen to keep them healthy:
Nothing special other than tucking them away in a bun. The last few inches of my ends are damaged beyond repair and just need to go in due time.
Trimming/Dusting/S&D'ing schedule/routine:
I gave myself a cut of maybe 2 inches or so about a month ago and I want to hold on to the remaining length for some time, so I will not be cutting any time soon. Plus I just did a random cutting of the ends of my bantu knots. I don't know how to properly cut let alone dust my hair. And I'm not at all ready to let a stylist cut my hair. I have only gone to a stylist a few times in my whole life and it was not for a cut, so I don't know.
Top 10 products:
1. Co-wash: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Conditioner (the love of my life
) Apparently my hair adores silicones 2. Shampoo: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Shampoo (I use it occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it and contrary to all the other shampoos I have tried it does not strip my hair)
3. Oil rinse: sunflower oil. I do this step occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it.
4. Leave-in: I know that for my hair the leave-in is the most important product. But I'm still experimenting to find a HG. Oyin hair dew and Camille Rose both work very well for me but they are expensive and not readily available. I want to experiment with other products before I give in and just keep importing them. I have a few rinse out conditioners to experiment with. But I will not leave in something that doesn't play well with my gels. I have also ordered a few actual leave-in products and will try them once they arrive. We will see.
5. Sealing: I have a cheap blend of mineral oil and argan oil that works well but I'm going to experiment with jojoba and grapeseed oils. I top the oil with a light grease, currently Palmer's Coconut Hairdress. These tend to last forever. I want to try a butter-type product as well in the future.
6. Styler: due to the texlaxing and relaxing mess, my curl pattern is very weak and I need a lot of strong-hold stylers. My core product is Wetline Xtreme gel. It gives a strong hold; I can actually get second day hair which is an achievement for me. It also SOTCs out perfectly so no crunsh. I use KCCC (Kinky Curly Curling Custard) underneath because of the slip, and sometimes a mouse as well underneath. And last time I topped them all with BRHG (Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee) with which I'm experimenting currently.
For setting I can use the same stylers or a weak-hold AVG that I love.
Did I mention too many products?
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Alma Petra
Well-Known Member
The flexi rod set hangs so beautifully around your face and the look is definitely different from your WnG so one more style to add to your armamentarium.
And did I say that you are beautiful too?
YvetteWithJoy
On break
The flexi rod set hangs so beautifully around your face and the look is definitely different from your WnG so one more style to add to your armamentarium.
And did I say that you are beautiful too?
LOL, thanks! You are so kind!
I'm laughing because I'm so not a hair-handling-doing -type skills-having person and I had NO IDEA that going natural would mean I'd need at least some skills! I'm tryin'!
I'm so glad you joined! Oh, my goodness! Body and hair goals! Your hair is drool worthy! Gorgeous!
NaturalShe94
Well-Known Member
Hi guys I would like to join this challenge please! I have been lurking and reading avidly for quite some time now. I think that it's by time that I formally join.
First the rules:
1. I do have low levels of ferritin and vitamin D and I'm currently taking supplements to correct them.
2. I usually do not allow myself to stress too much or for too long over all the mishaps that happen in my life.
3. I am trying to eat as healthy as possible. But I mostly get my H2O from diet coke. I can't lie
The specifics:
Current length:
Grazing BSL
Regimen:
The basic regimen is to cowash once per week, wear my WnG for 2 days and then bun it up for 5 days.
But I'm finding myself cowashing more often and trying different styles which I think is too much manipulation. I will try to be more disciplined.
Exact goal length:
TBL overall but for this specific challenge it's WHip length (in truth it's WL for 2018 but I'll say WHip to sneak myself into this challenge. WHip is close to Hip isn't it?
Plans to help you achieve your goal:
Less manipulation, more protection to my ends. Keep hair moisturized and happy.
List any vitamins/supplements you are taking:
Iron, vitamin D, hair and nail vitamins with silica and MSM.
I have some collagen caplets on the way.
And I have also ordered the Xcel 21 spray, but I may only apply that to my poor edges.
Your ends care regimen to keep them healthy:
Nothing special other than tucking them away in a bun. The last few inches of my ends are damaged beyond repair and just need to go in due time.
Trimming/Dusting/S&D'ing schedule/routine:
I gave myself a cut of maybe 2 inches or so about a month ago and I want to hold on to the remaining length for some time, so I will not be cutting any time soon. Plus I just did a random cutting of the ends of my bantu knots. I don't know how to properly cut let alone dust my hair. And I'm not at all ready to let a stylist cut my hair. I have only gone to a stylist a few times in my whole life and it was not for a cut, so I don't know.
Top 10 products:
1. Co-wash: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Conditioner (the love of my life
2. Shampoo: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Shampoo (I use it occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it and contrary to all the other shampoos I have tried it does not strip my hair)
3. Oil rinse: sunflower oil. I do this step occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it.
4. Leave-in: I know that for my hair the leave-in is the most important product. But I'm still experimenting to find a HG. Oyin hair dew and Camille Rose both work very well for me but they are expensive and not readily available. I want to experiment with other products before I give in and just keep importing them. I have a few rinse out conditioners to experiment with. But I will not leave in something that doesn't play well with my gels. I have also ordered a few actual leave-in products and will try them once they arrive. We will see.
5. Sealing: I have a cheap blend of mineral oil and argan oil that works well but I'm going to experiment with jojoba and grapeseed oils. I top the oil with a light grease, currently Palmer's Coconut Hairdress. These tend to last forever. I want to try a butter-type product as well in the future.
6. Styler: due to the texlaxing and relaxing mess, my curl pattern is very weak and I need a lot of strong-hold stylers. My core product is Wetline Xtreme gel. It gives a strong hold; I can actually get second day hair which is an achievement for me. It also SOTCs out perfectly so no crunsh. I use KCCC (Kinky Curly Curling Custard) underneath because of the slip, and sometimes a mouse as well underneath. And last time I topped them all with BRHG (Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee) with which I'm experimenting currently.
For setting I can use the same stylers or a weak-hold AVG that I love.
Did I mention too many products?
Beautiful hair! Looks so healthy! Grazing BSL though?! Looks like if you stretch those curls you'll be WL!!
NaturalShe94
Well-Known Member
Hey Daina! I think you should try a different method as well... Use warm water on your hair before applying the DC, then rinse your hair with COOL water. You should see a big difference doing that. Warm water allows moisture to enter the hair while rinsing with cool water will lock the moisture in. I learned this and I love it!
Hey Girlie glad to see you back! Thanks for the tip, yup I typically do the luke warm to cleanse and cool water to rinse and seal in moisture. I did a roller set last Friday and M&S'd and put in a curly bun that I took down today. I M&S'd again today and put it back in a bun till Friday, hopefully this week's DC along with some Roux porosity control will get me back in balance.
Ladies help me please! I accidentally bought 2 joico moisture recovery conditioners thinking they were the moisture recovery balm!is there a huge difference?? should I run back in the store and return it? I was apparently too excited
Eta: I returned them. lol
In my experience they are very different. I think the regular rinse-out conditioner is just okay, I wasn't wowed by the slip or the moisture to be honest it was just meh...the recovery balm however is super thick and normally I find it extremely moisturizing although I don't love the smell.
CheChe1881
Well-Known Member
Hi guys I would like to join this challenge please! I have been lurking and reading avidly for quite some time now. I think that it's by time that I formally join.
First the rules:
1. I do have low levels of ferritin and vitamin D and I'm currently taking supplements to correct them.
2. I usually do not allow myself to stress too much or for too long over all the mishaps that happen in my life.
3. I am trying to eat as healthy as possible. But I mostly get my H2O from diet coke. I can't lie
The specifics:
Current length:
Grazing BSL
Regimen:
The basic regimen is to cowash once per week, wear my WnG for 2 days and then bun it up for 5 days.
But I'm finding myself cowashing more often and trying different styles which I think is too much manipulation. I will try to be more disciplined.
Exact goal length:
TBL overall but for this specific challenge it's WHip length (in truth it's WL for 2018 but I'll say WHip to sneak myself into this challenge. WHip is close to Hip isn't it?
Plans to help you achieve your goal:
Less manipulation, more protection to my ends. Keep hair moisturized and happy.
List any vitamins/supplements you are taking:
Iron, vitamin D, hair and nail vitamins with silica and MSM.
I have some collagen caplets on the way.
And I have also ordered the Xcel 21 spray, but I may only apply that to my poor edges.
Your ends care regimen to keep them healthy:
Nothing special other than tucking them away in a bun. The last few inches of my ends are damaged beyond repair and just need to go in due time.
Trimming/Dusting/S&D'ing schedule/routine:
I gave myself a cut of maybe 2 inches or so about a month ago and I want to hold on to the remaining length for some time, so I will not be cutting any time soon. Plus I just did a random cutting of the ends of my bantu knots. I don't know how to properly cut let alone dust my hair. And I'm not at all ready to let a stylist cut my hair. I have only gone to a stylist a few times in my whole life and it was not for a cut, so I don't know.
Top 10 products:
1. Co-wash: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Conditioner (the love of my life
2. Shampoo: Herbal Essences Bee Strong Shampoo (I use it occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it and contrary to all the other shampoos I have tried it does not strip my hair)
3. Oil rinse: sunflower oil. I do this step occasionally whenever I feel that my hair needs it.
4. Leave-in: I know that for my hair the leave-in is the most important product. But I'm still experimenting to find a HG. Oyin hair dew and Camille Rose both work very well for me but they are expensive and not readily available. I want to experiment with other products before I give in and just keep importing them. I have a few rinse out conditioners to experiment with. But I will not leave in something that doesn't play well with my gels. I have also ordered a few actual leave-in products and will try them once they arrive. We will see.
5. Sealing: I have a cheap blend of mineral oil and argan oil that works well but I'm going to experiment with jojoba and grapeseed oils. I top the oil with a light grease, currently Palmer's Coconut Hairdress. These tend to last forever. I want to try a butter-type product as well in the future.
6. Styler: due to the texlaxing and relaxing mess, my curl pattern is very weak and I need a lot of strong-hold stylers. My core product is Wetline Xtreme gel. It gives a strong hold; I can actually get second day hair which is an achievement for me. It also SOTCs out perfectly so no crunsh. I use KCCC (Kinky Curly Curling Custard) underneath because of the slip, and sometimes a mouse as well underneath. And last time I topped them all with BRHG (Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee) with which I'm experimenting currently.
For setting I can use the same stylers or a weak-hold AVG that I love.
Did I mention too many products?
Your curls are so cute, they look like a wig lol
Alma Petra
Well-Known Member
Awww! Thanks a lot dear!
For me, trying new styles is so much fun, no matter the end results. I actually enjoy playing with my hair too much and it ends up interfering with my retention
Oh thank you NatrualShe94! The truth is I don't even remember the last time I straightened my hair. Whenever I wear it down, I wear it curly; that's why its curly length is the only length that I get to experience and enjoy. But I agree that if I were to stretch it, it could probably reach WL, at least that lonely lock that hangs down low would lol
Looool if that's not the sweetest funniest compliment!
Actually the underneath layer of small-diameter curls in the photo is my natural curl pattern. The bigger curls on top of them are the result of the take down of a chunky two-strand twist that I was experimenting with. It's probably the twist out that's giving it the wig look? But I loved the twist-out and I want to incorporate it in my next WnG. I hope that it wasn't a fluke and that I can get the same effect again, and that it can blend nicely with my WnG.
Thanks dear!
NaturalShe94
Well-Known Member
Thanks! Glad to finally be participated again! Sounds like youre taking the right care practices then, youll be balanced again in no time
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
Welcome @NaturalShe94 and @Alma Petra Glad to have both of you and looking forward to watching you grow to great lengths! 
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
@YvetteWithJoy You are absolutely stunning!
P.S. Do you mind sharing your sweet potato hash recipe with me? Do you make it kinda like making hash browns via stovetop?
P.S. Do you mind sharing your sweet potato hash recipe with me? Do you make it kinda like making hash browns via stovetop?
Prettymetty
Natural/4b/medium-coarse
I need both of those mini challenges! Water is pretty much everything. And 10 minutes of quiet time is always nice. Tuesday will be my de stress day and Monday will be water day.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Oh, thanks, lady! You are so kind!
Don't mind sharing the hash recipe at all!
The base is cubed sweet potatoes covered in melted coconut oil and then roasted. I season mine with Himalayan pink salt and cinnamon, but you can season them however you like. I roast mine on 375 degrees, 20 minutes on each side, but you would want to use whatever works for your particular stove for roasting potatoes.
I cube one medium or large sweet potato. The roasted sweet potatoes alone are SO satisfying.
For the hash, you then add whatever you'd like. I think the goal of the original recipe was to provide healthy fat. The original recipe called for avocado slices, one scrambled egg, and your protein of choice (chicken or turkey strips/chunks, ground turkey or beef, etc). It also called for crumbled bacon. I found some health-conscious bacon bits and often just use those.
NaturalShe94
Well-Known Member
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Glad to be aboard. Can't wait to see my hair surprise me!
Welcome @NaturalShe94 and @Alma Petra Glad to have both of you and looking forward to watching you grow to great lengths!
Glad to be aboard. Can't wait to see my hair surprise me!
Alma Petra
Well-Known Member
Welcome @NaturalShe94 and @Alma Petra Glad to have both of you and looking forward to watching you grow to great lengths!
Thank you @lulu97!
I am very happy to be joining this group of kind and beautiful ladies for an exciting journey of hair growth and personal development
Alma Petra
Well-Known Member
I want to commit to number 2. I will do my best. I love being on my own and I love doing absolutely nothing but now it will be outside. The only problem is that the weather is very cold brrrr
Can I spend those 10 minutes walking? Or will I need to be still?
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
Oh, thanks, lady! You are so kind!
Don't mind sharing the hash recipe at all!
The base is cubed sweet potatoes covered in melted coconut oil and then roasted. I season mine with Himalayan pink salt and cinnamon, but you can season them however you like. I roast mine on 375 degrees, 20 minutes on each side, but you would want to use whatever works for your particular stove for roasting potatoes.
I cube one medium or large sweet potato. The roasted sweet potatoes alone are SO satisfying.
For the hash, you then add whatever you'd like. I think the goal of the original recipe was to provide healthy fat. The original recipe called for avocado slices, one scrambled egg, and your protein of choice (chicken or turkey strips/chunks, ground turkey or beef, etc). It also called for crumbled bacon. I found some health-conscious bacon bits and often just use those.
Thank you so much! I can't wait to try it!
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
Yes Sis, walking is perfectly fine! I love walking meditation. I did it this morning...so relaxing.
NaturalShe94
Well-Known Member
Anyone thought of buying Gabrielle Unions new hair care line Flawless???
I just ordered 4 products from the website! I told myself I wouldn't buy anymore new products, but, darn it I'm superrr eager to try it out!
I just ordered 4 products from the website! I told myself I wouldn't buy anymore new products, but, darn it I'm superrr eager to try it out!
CheChe1881
Well-Known Member
No. Not really interested in them. But I will definitely wait for her skincare line one day should she choose to start one.
Please do come back and let us know how they are.
NaturalShe94
Well-Known Member
I will, I looked at it for a bit. Her line contains no parabens, sulfates or gluten, which is a plus. Also containing Avocado and Argan Oil as main ingredients, so I thought "hmmm maybe it wouldn't hurt to try it out." I'm very satisfied with the products I already use, but, she has a poo/con called "Smoothing Shampoo & Smoothing Conditioner" that attacks frizz and split ends so I was more interested in that and definitely the Hair Masque and just threw in the oil treatment for the heck of it because there's a 40% off limited time offer when you order online and a bulk discount as well the more items you choose. So, I only spent $55 instead of $111. Lol! I will definitely update with a review when I finally use them!
MileHighDiva
A+ Hair Care Queen
Nice and Sleek on Fleek. Your silk out is beautiful!Sooo.... I spent pretty much the entire day doing something I didn't plan on: I straightened my hair. The whole shebang from dc to blow dry to flat iron. I lost my mind!I was reminded why I only do it twice a year! But I must say my hair is very sleek!
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