Heat & Conditioners- Calling all chemist

[BlackButterflyz]

What's up LHCF'ers

Guess who's bizzack!!!
I haven't posted on here in ages (me and my computer were having a love/hate relationship) but I'm back!!!

ANyways...on to my question
Does anyone know the chemical reason behind why certain conditioners work best with heat (when doing a deep conditioner) while others do not. For example I noticed that Dominican products (particularily Diez en Uno) works best when I use heat (and a little olive oil). HOwever, I also remember a loooooooong time ago someone (SuperGirl, I think) posted that certain protein conditioners work best if you don't add heat b/c of the molecular blah, blah, blah... But I can't find that thread anywhere

(So if you know what I'm talking about maybe you can bumpit for me).

SO does anyone have any idea/facts about what ingredients work better with heat and which ones do not. and once again I'm sorry if this has been talked about before, i just can't seem to find the exact info that I'm looking for.

C'mon ladies, I know all these beautiful heads have got the answers

 

[Lindy]

GREAT question!! Sorry but I don't have the answer, although I've definitely noticed this phenomenon!!

It's just been trial and error/experimentation for me in determining which of my conditioners work better with or without heat...

 

[jainygirl]

I think Ayeshia is a Chemistry major but i'm not sure....

Ayeshia, please help

-- jainygirl

 

[BlackButterflyz]

Doing the bump---oooow sexy, sexy (sing along now) ...

Any ideas are welcomed, not just the chemical experts

 

[Allandra]

bump

 

[monister]

im a chem major...
1.the heat helps to open the cuticle of the hair to allow for deeper penentration of of the conditioner
2. some ingredients in some conditioner may be activated by heat. most likely an inactive form in present in the conditioner and with the application of heat, it can be transformed to the active form...

3. for those conditioners that say they can be used with or without heat, the heat probably would speed up the process that is why the time they say u should leave it on with heat is usually less that without..

hope that helps

monister

 

[Bobbie]

thanks for the info, monister!

 

[Britt]

I would like more info on this topic as well. I notice that many of my conditioners work better w/o heat. Strange, very strange.

 

[BlackButterflyz]

Thanx for the info Monister

DOes anybody know any "heat-activated" ingredients-- I'm trying to get the most out of my products and $$
I'm with u Britt-- I'm so confused as to why some of my conditioners work with heat and others don't

... I'm too lazy to do an experiement with all of my fav conditioners to find out which work w/ heat and which don't.. These days I prefer to leave my cond on longer w/o heat (unless I'm using MissKey- that's the only one I know for sure works best for me with heat)

 

[monister]

blackbutterflyz... give me the list of ur ingredients in ur conditioner and i can tell u if heat activates..

monister

 

[Supergirl]

[ QUOTE ]
monister said:
im a chem major...
1.the heat helps to open the cuticle of the hair to allow for deeper penentration of of the conditioner
2. some ingredients in some conditioner may be activated by heat. most likely an inactive form in present in the conditioner and with the application of heat, it can be transformed to the active form...

3. for those conditioners that say they can be used with or without heat, the heat probably would speed up the process that is why the time they say u should leave it on with heat is usually less that without..

hope that helps

monister

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That's basically it. The heat speeds up the process.

A conditioner that directs you to use it without heat, for example Joico K-Pak directions say to leave it in 3 minutes then rinse. Well, the scientists that helped formulate this conditioner tested it and found that it works best when left on 3 minutes without heat and that it will do everything it's supposed to do in those 3 minutes without heat. Leaving it on for additional time or adding heat will not increase it's effectiveness.

Most at home treatments have been formulated to be used without heat, because the majority of women in America probably don' t have hooded dryers at home. Many of these product companies are also probably assuming that a woman is washing her hair with very warm water and that is kind of like having "heat" with your conditioning treatment also.

 

[Britt]

So Supergirl do u use most of your conditioners as directed and only leave it in for about 3-5 minutes then rinse?

 

[Lindy]

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Supergirl said:
A conditioner that directs you to use it without heat, for example Joico K-Pak directions say to leave it in 3 minutes then rinse. Well, the scientists that helped formulate this conditioner tested it and found that it works best when left on 3 minutes without heat and that it will do everything it's supposed to do in those 3 minutes without heat. Leaving it on for additional time or adding heat will not increase it's effectiveness.

[/ QUOTE ]

I hardly ever follow the instructions on the back of conditioners which say to leave it for only a few minutes... I always figured that was geared towards "caucasian hair" which doesn't need as much moisture...

I always figured that leaving it on longer, or putting heat on it could only help matters, not hurt...

 

[Supergirl]

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Britt said:
So Supergirl do u use most of your conditioners as directed and only leave it in for about 3-5 minutes then rinse?

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Yes, I pretty much follow the directions. On occassion, I'll use a plastic cap and let a conditioner set for a while (without heat). Elucence EMRT is the only one I have that calls for heat. My Deep Brilliance Reconstructor can be used with or without heat (says directions)--I do it without.