Do You Remember Surge 14 Hair Revitalizer?????

Not sure if anyone complained directly or if the manufacturers are LSA lurkers, but the spray nozzles have changed. I ordered more nw21 and noticed that I get more of a mist instead of stream when I spray. The influence of LSA!:lachen:


TBH, I like the stream because it hit my scalp more directly between my parts. Guess the mist will do. I'm keeping my stream bottle though. :)
 
Tefnut said:
Not sure if anyone complained directly or if the manufacturers are LSA lurkers, but the spray nozzles have changed. I ordered more nw21 and noticed that I get more of a mist instead of stream when I spray. The influence of LSA!:lachen:


TBH, I like the stream because it hit my scalp more directly between my parts. Guess the mist will do. I'm keeping my stream bottle though. :)
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I prefer a mist vs. a stream so I'm happy to hear that.
 
I've noticed growth on some thin spots on my eyebrows. For that, it's a keeper. I'm sure it's helping my hair too but I haven't had much time for measuring and photo snapping to be certain. It can't hurt to keep using it so I will continue.
 
divachyk said:
I've noticed growth on some thin spots on my eyebrows. For that, it's a keeper. I'm sure it's helping my hair too but I haven't had much time for measuring and photo snapping to be certain. It can't hurt to keep using it so I will continue.
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The benefit I get on my lashes and brows are enough to keep making me hoard this stuff. My lower lashes look amazing and I never had ANY before!
 
Daina said:
The benefit I get on my lashes and brows are enough to keep making me hoard this stuff. My lower lashes look amazing and I never had ANY before!
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I don't have any lower lashes either. I mean I do but they are fine and super low density like my hair. does it sting if it gets in your eyes?
 
Tefnut said:
Not sure if anyone complained directly or if the manufacturers are LSA lurkers, but the spray nozzles have changed. I ordered more nw21 and noticed that I get more of a mist instead of stream when I spray. The influence of LSA!:lachen:


TBH, I like the stream because it hit my scalp more directly between my parts. Guess the mist will do. I'm keeping my stream bottle though. :)
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Let me go and dig in my trash...
 
Daina said:
The benefit I get on my lashes and brows are enough to keep making me hoard this stuff. My lower lashes look amazing and I never had ANY before!
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Some days I feel my lashes are long enough to braid :look:. My upper lashes and lower lashes sometimes get all clingy and wrap around each other when I blink :confused: so I haven't been moved to use it on them but that's good to know should they need help in the future.
 
Excited to get back to using the Xcel 21. My hair was straight for a week and while I would normally use the cream I didn't because my scalp didn't like the products the salon used. My scalp has been on fire and flaking ever since I got it done. I didn't want to add build up or extra fuel to my scalp fire using the cream. I will be back on schedule trying to regain those 2 inches I had trimmed.
 
Yes, this stuff works! I kept my hair in a braided bun for about 6 weeks and I used the xcel 21 about every other day. I would hold my head over and let it seep under the bun. I also used Virgo Hair Fertilizer on my edges, especially my temple area. I'm impressed with the growth. I can't say how many inches I got, but I had some breakage in different places and I see a big difference now.
 
so I'm still using the cream and might have to take back my initial thoughts of it being less effective than the spray.

because it builds up on the scalp so quickly (like 2 days) and I cant shampoo my hair 3x a week and expect it to stay on my head, just using the cream on the length as a styler at night. I braid it up. it then gets to my scalp lightly by proximity via just laying down and it pressing to my head from the braids :lol:
 
Hello beauties! I just found this thread a few weeks back & forgot where I left off! Maybe page 15? Which were poats from way back in the early fall! At this rate, I will never read each post about this product....so my question is, what's the consensus? Is this product a hit for rapid hair growth? Should I take the plunge? Where do you guys buy it? I can't find it locally!!
TIA!!!
 
KenyafromCT said:
Hello beauties! I just found this thread a few weeks back & forgot where I left off! Maybe page 15? Which were poats from way back in the early fall! At this rate, I will never read each post about this product....so my question is, what's the consensus? Is this product a hit for rapid hair growth? Should I take the plunge? Where do you guys buy it? I can't find it locally!!
TIA!!!
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go for it.
I get mines online.
http://www.houseofbeautyworld.com
 
I haven't been posting & my spraying right now is inconsistent. :look: I do manage to run some cream on my edges every now and then. I haven't opened my new bottle of liquid hair vitamins either. And I've been in twists most of the winter.
So?
Something has been working! I have a bun with no flyaways and my edges are happy & getting fuller and longer.
I'm getting a pretty deep cut soon to get rid of some residual damage & I'm hoping my hair bounces back well with X21 & the vitamins.
 
Aggie said:
I'm gonna be honest and bare my soul ladies, but I really hate spraying my hair with this or anything else for that matter and so I have not been very diligent with it. Okay confession over. Whew, feels good.
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@Aggie, put it in an applicator bottle. I don't like the bottle or the functionality of the pump but using an applicator bottle makes it easier and more directive to the scalp.
 
I have been reluctantly (because of laziness) applying pretty much daily and it seems like a little goes a long way. I use this in an applicator bottle and it is very liquidy and it runs down my scalp after I apply.
Has anyone seen good results with applying every other day?
Also, does the cream have the ingredients as the spray?
 
I had about 2/3 of a bottle I bought a few months ago of the spray in my house that I'm revisiting, since I ran out of Edge Entity. I will say that Edge Entity does work, but I want to finish the Xcel 21 up first and see how it compares. I also got the cream today, and will use both together to see how much growth I can get on my edges.
 
MsSanz92 said:
I had about 2/3 of a bottle I bought a few months ago of the spray in my house that I'm revisiting, since I ran out of Edge Entity. I will say that Edge Entity does work, but I want to finish the Xcel 21 up first and see how it compares. I also got the cream today, and will use both together to see how much growth I can get on my edges.
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@MsSanz92 How long have you been using the Edge Entity? Can you tell how much growth you've had with it so far?
 
MsSanz92 said:
I had about 2/3 of a bottle I bought a few months ago of the spray in my house that I'm revisiting, since I ran out of Edge Entity. I will say that Edge Entity does work, but I want to finish the Xcel 21 up first and see how it compares. I also got the cream today, and will use both together to see how much growth I can get on my edges.
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Are the cream ingredients the same as the spray?
 
vanray said:
Design Essential Strengthening Therapy System. It's like a keratin treatment but its amino acid based I believe.
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@vanray,
Thanks for responding! One more question. There are several products in that line. Which product specifically are you referencing? I see two products mentioned in LHCF threads: (1) Design Essential Strengthening Therapy Transitioning Mousse and the (2) Strengthening Therapy Silkening Spray:

Mousse:

Deionized water, polyquaternium-55, cocomidapropyl tremethyl ammonium, chloride and peg-8 dimethicone succinate, decyl glucoside, cetrimonium chloride, diazolidinyl urea, methylparaben, propylparaben, peg-75 lanolin, hydrolyzed wheat protein, panthenol, polysorbate 20, perfume/fragrance, dimethicone copolyol, citric acid.

[Silkening ] Spray:

Water, cystin Bis-pg-propyl silanetriaol, polyquaternium 11, hydrolyzed vegetable protein pg-proyl silanetriol, silanetriol and panthenol, hydrolyzed silk, hydrolyzed wheat protein and hydrolyzed wheat starch, dimethicone copolyol, cetyl treithylmonium olivate dimethicone peg-8 succinate, fragrance, methcholroisothiazolinone and methyllisthiazolinone.

I ask because I want to look up the ingredients. Here is the thread from where I got the above two products and their ingredients.
https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/design-essentials-strengthening-therapy-system.624891/

Detailed post of @Dove56 gorgeous results with photos using the Design Essential products, are in this thread below, at post #44
https://longhaircareforum.com/threa...-please-help-the-rest-of-us-out.690703/page-2

Somebody asked me if one of my DIY products were comparable to this product. I got the question a few years back. Your mention of it brought it back to me. For my my product, I mix cystine, methionine and cysteine in a fatty acid base, which is tofu, and use it as a protein treatment. I got the original recipe from an Aubrey Organics book, and I modified the recipe to fit afro-textured hair. He recommended it for porous hair that got that way from bleaching/color treating it/relaxing. My recipe makes the hair strong and fortified. I would assume that is what the Design Essential Strengthening Therapy System is doing.

@yodie and @Dove56, do you both still use the Design Essential Strengthening Therapy System?

Sorry about the Design Essential digression! I can easily get this product in France and I am selfishly thinking of only myself right now! I am on the hunt for proven products i can use to get my hair silky straight when I do it myself.

Edit to say:
Found the link of the product along with demonstration video of the brand by the maker:
http://info.designessentials.com/new-sts-express-system-1

There are three (3) products in the system:
  1. Cleanse (Sulfate Free Shampoo)- in video person uses gloves to apply this
  2. Smoothing mousse (2 levels: Gentle or Max Smoothing) -in video person uses gloves to apply this (Couldn't find the ingredients list for this one)
  3. Thermal Therapy Leave in Sealant- in video person uses no gloves apply this
Lastly, this treatment looks like you have to get it done in a salon. Aww...can't do it myself.
 
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Chicoro said:
@vanray,
Thanks for responding! One more question. There are several products in that line. Which product specifically are you referencing? I see two products mentioned in LHCF threads: (1) Design Essential Strengthening Therapy Transitioning Mousse and the (2) Strengthening Therapy Silkening Spray:

Mousse:

Deionized water, polyquaternium-55, cocomidapropyl tremethyl ammonium, chloride and peg-8 dimethicone succinate, decyl glucoside, cetrimonium chloride, diazolidinyl urea, methylparaben, propylparaben, peg-75 lanolin, hydrolyzed wheat protein, panthenol, polysorbate 20, perfume/fragrance, dimethicone copolyol, citric acid.

[Silkening ] Spray:

Water, cystin Bis-pg-propyl silanetriaol, polyquaternium 11, hydrolyzed vegetable protein pg-proyl silanetriol, silanetriol and panthenol, hydrolyzed silk, hydrolyzed wheat protein and hydrolyzed wheat starch, dimethicone copolyol, cetyl treithylmonium olivate dimethicone peg-8 succinate, fragrance, methcholroisothiazolinone and methyllisthiazolinone.

I ask because I want to look up the ingredients. Here is the thread from where I got the above two products and their ingredients.
https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/design-essentials-strengthening-therapy-system.624891/

Detailed post of @Dove56 gorgeous results with photos using the Design Essential products, are in this thread below, at post #44
https://longhaircareforum.com/threa...-please-help-the-rest-of-us-out.690703/page-2

Somebody asked me if one of my DIY products were comparable to this product. I got the question a few years back. Your mention of it brought it back to me. For my my product, I mix cystine, methionine and cysteine in a fatty acid base, which is tofu, and use it as a protein treatment. I got the original recipe from an Aubrey Organics book, and I modified the recipe to fit afro-textured hair. He recommended it for porous hair that got that way from bleaching/color treating it/relaxing. My recipe makes the hair strong and fortified. I would assume that is what the Design Essential Strengthening Therapy System is doing.

@yodie and @Dove56, do you both still use the Design Essential Strengthening Therapy System?

Sorry about the Design Essential digression! I can easily get this product in France and I am selfishly thinking of only myself right now! I am on the hunt for proven products i can use to get my hair silky straight when I do it myself.

Edit to say:
Found the link of the product along with demonstration video of the brand by the maker:
http://info.designessentials.com/new-sts-express-system-1

There are three (3) products in the system:
  1. Cleanse (Sulfate Free Shampoo)- in video person uses gloves to apply this
  2. Smoothing mousse (2 levels: Gentle or Max Smoothing) -in video person uses gloves to apply this (Couldn't find the ingredients list for this one)
  3. Thermal Therapy Leave in Sealant- in video person uses no gloves apply this
Lastly, this treatment looks like you have to get it done in a salon. Aww...can't do it myself.
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I was referencing the mousse. It's expensive to get here, but there are ways around that. A few people here have applied it themselves.

It can make straightening easier or just enhance elongation and definition to increase manageability so that's what I'm interested in it for.
 
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