victory777
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I will have to try it with molasses! Is the molasses for moisture? You've inspired me to try my hand at my own conditioner using btms.
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Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Yup, it is for moisture, also to thicken it a tad, help keep my hair dark, and I hope a trace of the iron in it penetrates my scalp.
I had thought about trying the BTMS-25, but I would need a guarantee it is sourced from something I am not allergic to. There is a thread of making conditioners with a chart of ratios: Anyone make their own conditioner...
victory777
Well-Known Member
Thanks so much! I was looking at swiftcraftymonkey ; I will read this too.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
I need to get back in the fermented rice water.
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Thank you!
sparkle25
Well-Known Member
Lol. You would. Xxx
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
lol! I hate autocorrect!
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
The rice water I made December 17, 2016 is still going. I refill with fresh water the same amount of liquid I remove. The scent is a mild "meaty" one, better than baby barf.
See, no weird growth or anything:
This is how I remove the amount I need without contamination or fuss. I usually lean it and the applicator bottle sideways, but I have only two hands:
I use about 3 oz at a time. 3 drops of sweet orange EO tones down the smell, but the smell never bothers me, not after neem oil.
See, no weird growth or anything:
This is how I remove the amount I need without contamination or fuss. I usually lean it and the applicator bottle sideways, but I have only two hands:
I use about 3 oz at a time. 3 drops of sweet orange EO tones down the smell, but the smell never bothers me, not after neem oil.
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Homemade PK Treatment
First posted on this forum here.
Here is an excerpt from famed trichologist Philip Kingsley's blog:
However, black hair has a flat shape with a twisted configuration and a thin diameter. Where these ‘twists’ occur, there is actually a change in the hair’s width (think of what happens when you bend or twist a straw). These twists and curls are ‘weak points’ along the hair and cause black hair to break and tangle very easily.
Because of the problems inherent in black hair types, styling presents a dilemma. The amount of pulling involved when trying to de-tangle black hair may stress the hair follicles and cause traction loss. Furthermore, there is often a desire to straighten tight, curly hair. Methods for temporarily straightening vary (such as hot irons and rollers), but none are conducive to healthy hair and each invariably lead to traction hair loss and severe breakage. The thin shaft of black hair also makes it the most easily damaged hair type when it comes to bleaching and colouring.
Frequent use of a specialised pre shampoo conditioning treatment and also post shampoo conditioning is mandatory, especially when it comes to black hair. It is highly important to moisturise your hair well and to keep it elastic so that frequent snapping and breaking is minimised. In addition, because black hair is curly, it is often less shiny as light does not reflect off of it as well as straight hair. As an added bonus to overall hair condition, use of a conditioner will help make the cuticle shiny.
Here is the recipe:
Philip Kingsley makes a multi-award winning treatment called Elasticizer Extreme, but if you wish to make your own hydrating treatment for extremely porous, tight curls at home, whisk together the following:
2 eggs
2oz double cream
1oz castor oil
1oz melted butter [unsalted]
1oz purified water
Juice of half a grapefruit
Refrigerate overnight if necessary and use as needed.
Apply the mixture to the whole length of your hair in sections. Work into your hair with fingers and massage your scalp for five-ten minutes with a gentle kneading motion. Leave in for twenty minutes (or overnight) and shampoo and condition as usual. Do this as often as possible until your hair is sufficiently improved.
My version had two egg yolks and one whole egg instead. I have read that egg whites are great for oily hair, but my hair is not oily.
Added the rest of the ingredients. Not understand the point of the water:
Did not feel like whisking or getting out the mixer, so stick blender it is:
Thank Yah for funnels:
This recipe made 10.5 oz, maybe my eggs were too big?
I also made oat milk. Cooking the oats and straining off the liquid, more water added prior to straining:
½ cup of oats to 2 cups of water, then another cup of water added:
Had to strain it twice. DS2 drank half of it with sugar:
I saturated my hair with the Treatment until it made that squishy sound (the whole bottle), putting my hair under a plastic cap. I smelt grapefruit juice, but eggie is still there. The runs increased as the mixture warmed on my head, filling the cap. Keeping the towel clipped around my neck, I flipped the rest of it over my head. Why? My head was getting cold, and when I bend over, it helps catch the drippies.
The recipe made too much. The next time I do this, I will just coat the hair. Left it in for 7 hours; I think 2 is plenty for my hair.
When I took off the cap, stuff went everywhere and the stench of sour milk hit my nose. *gag* I rinsed under cool water, then slightly warmer. The oat milk was underwhelming; oats act more like a shampoo when I use more water and use the stick blender. I massaged that it for a few minutes then rinsed. I finished by oil rinsing and finger-detangling in the shower with Bhaasvaata Oil, no other product.
Results: feels like a protein treatment with some softness. It definitely needs to be remove with shampoo, soap, etc.
Mental note: last rinse should not be done head-down, LOL!
First posted on this forum here.
Here is an excerpt from famed trichologist Philip Kingsley's blog:
However, black hair has a flat shape with a twisted configuration and a thin diameter. Where these ‘twists’ occur, there is actually a change in the hair’s width (think of what happens when you bend or twist a straw). These twists and curls are ‘weak points’ along the hair and cause black hair to break and tangle very easily.
Because of the problems inherent in black hair types, styling presents a dilemma. The amount of pulling involved when trying to de-tangle black hair may stress the hair follicles and cause traction loss. Furthermore, there is often a desire to straighten tight, curly hair. Methods for temporarily straightening vary (such as hot irons and rollers), but none are conducive to healthy hair and each invariably lead to traction hair loss and severe breakage. The thin shaft of black hair also makes it the most easily damaged hair type when it comes to bleaching and colouring.
Frequent use of a specialised pre shampoo conditioning treatment and also post shampoo conditioning is mandatory, especially when it comes to black hair. It is highly important to moisturise your hair well and to keep it elastic so that frequent snapping and breaking is minimised. In addition, because black hair is curly, it is often less shiny as light does not reflect off of it as well as straight hair. As an added bonus to overall hair condition, use of a conditioner will help make the cuticle shiny.
Here is the recipe:
Philip Kingsley makes a multi-award winning treatment called Elasticizer Extreme, but if you wish to make your own hydrating treatment for extremely porous, tight curls at home, whisk together the following:
2 eggs
2oz double cream
1oz castor oil
1oz melted butter [unsalted]
1oz purified water
Juice of half a grapefruit
Refrigerate overnight if necessary and use as needed.
Apply the mixture to the whole length of your hair in sections. Work into your hair with fingers and massage your scalp for five-ten minutes with a gentle kneading motion. Leave in for twenty minutes (or overnight) and shampoo and condition as usual. Do this as often as possible until your hair is sufficiently improved.
My version had two egg yolks and one whole egg instead. I have read that egg whites are great for oily hair, but my hair is not oily.
Added the rest of the ingredients. Not understand the point of the water:
Did not feel like whisking or getting out the mixer, so stick blender it is:
Thank Yah for funnels:
This recipe made 10.5 oz, maybe my eggs were too big?
I also made oat milk. Cooking the oats and straining off the liquid, more water added prior to straining:
½ cup of oats to 2 cups of water, then another cup of water added:
Had to strain it twice. DS2 drank half of it with sugar:
I saturated my hair with the Treatment until it made that squishy sound (the whole bottle), putting my hair under a plastic cap. I smelt grapefruit juice, but eggie is still there. The runs increased as the mixture warmed on my head, filling the cap. Keeping the towel clipped around my neck, I flipped the rest of it over my head. Why? My head was getting cold, and when I bend over, it helps catch the drippies.
The recipe made too much. The next time I do this, I will just coat the hair. Left it in for 7 hours; I think 2 is plenty for my hair.
When I took off the cap, stuff went everywhere and the stench of sour milk hit my nose. *gag* I rinsed under cool water, then slightly warmer. The oat milk was underwhelming; oats act more like a shampoo when I use more water and use the stick blender. I massaged that it for a few minutes then rinsed. I finished by oil rinsing and finger-detangling in the shower with Bhaasvaata Oil, no other product.
Results: feels like a protein treatment with some softness. It definitely needs to be remove with shampoo, soap, etc.
Mental note: last rinse should not be done head-down, LOL!
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
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GGsKin
Well-Known Member
I totally agree @Sharpened
. I enjoy reading about your experiments.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Wow, @Sharpened! I love your homemade PK experiment!
Do you feel that your hair was shinier? Besides increased strength, what other effects do you feel the treatment had on your hair? Did you feel the treatment was worth the work? Will you be doing it again?
Thanks so much for sharing! These are so fun to read about, and the pictures and information are awesome.
Aside: Your hair is lovely! Keep going! I remember your other thread about natural hair versus straight hair and all that, but @Sharpened, you gotta know that your hair is GORGEOUS.
Sometimes it is hard for me to recognize how beautiful my hair is because of the length thing: Whether some people want to admit it or not, some of us got used to the length and the face-framing that straight hair provides. It's hard sometimes not having anything frame my face! That sometimes makes me feel as though my natural hair isn't "pretty" as relaxed hair at times.
When I get to feeling that way, besides watching videos about styling awkward-length or short hair, I watch videos of folks with hair like mine that is a little longer and frames their faces. Or I look at last year's pictures before my big trim. That's when I remember: This hair is GORGEOUS! I just personally need a little more length.
I can't think of the right way to say this, but your hair is SUPER PRETTY and is going to be STUNNING the longer it gets. That's not to say that our hair is only pretty when it is long. But I hope you know what I mean: We are used to length and truth be told there is something beautiful in length, and all things being equal, I think 8 inches of your coily natural hair is likely more gorgeous than 8 inches of what your straight hair would look like. Your coils are GREAT!
Do you feel that your hair was shinier? Besides increased strength, what other effects do you feel the treatment had on your hair? Did you feel the treatment was worth the work? Will you be doing it again?
Thanks so much for sharing! These are so fun to read about, and the pictures and information are awesome.
Aside: Your hair is lovely! Keep going! I remember your other thread about natural hair versus straight hair and all that, but @Sharpened, you gotta know that your hair is GORGEOUS.
Sometimes it is hard for me to recognize how beautiful my hair is because of the length thing: Whether some people want to admit it or not, some of us got used to the length and the face-framing that straight hair provides. It's hard sometimes not having anything frame my face! That sometimes makes me feel as though my natural hair isn't "pretty" as relaxed hair at times.
When I get to feeling that way, besides watching videos about styling awkward-length or short hair, I watch videos of folks with hair like mine that is a little longer and frames their faces. Or I look at last year's pictures before my big trim. That's when I remember: This hair is GORGEOUS! I just personally need a little more length.
I can't think of the right way to say this, but your hair is SUPER PRETTY and is going to be STUNNING the longer it gets.
That's not to say that our hair is only pretty when it is long. But I hope you know what I mean: We are used to length and truth be told there is something beautiful in length, and all things being equal, I think 8 inches of your coily natural hair is likely more gorgeous than 8 inches of what your straight hair would look like. Your coils are GREAT!
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Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Shinier? Nah. I got a touch more springiness (coil snapback) and some coil "firmness" without being hard. I am on the fence about it being worth the fuss, although I would like to see if I can get protein overload with it. I might try it again in two weeks, maybe weekly.Wow, @Sharpened! I love your homemade PK experiment!
Do you feel that your hair was shinier? Besides increased strength, what other effects do you feel the treatment had on your hair? Did you feel the treatment was worth the work? Will you be doing it again?
Thanks so much for sharing! These are so fun to read about, and the pictures and information are awesome.
Aside: Your hair is lovely! Keep going! I remember your other thread about natural hair versus straight hair and all that, but @Sharpened, you gotta know that your hair is GORGEOUS.
Sometimes it is hard for me to recognize how beautiful my hair is because of the length thing: Whether some people want to admit it or not, some of us got used to the length and the face-framing that straight hair provides. It's hard sometimes not having anything frame my face! That sometimes makes me feel as though my natural hair isn't "pretty" as relaxed hair at times.
When I get to feeling that way, besides watching videos about styling awkward-length or short hair, I watch videos of folks with hair like mine that is a little longer and frames their faces. Or I look at last year's pictures before my big trim. That's when I remember: This hair is GORGEOUS! I just personally need a little more length.
I can't think of the right way to say this, but your hair is SUPER PRETTY and is going to be STUNNING the longer it gets.
Thanks for the compliments. I have been natural for so long that I don't sweat a lot of things others worry about. I have thought about heat straightening over the years, but never went through it. Too much fuss in order the get some body or volume back into my hair. I preferred what I had with the curl - softness, texture, and volume without work. Now, I got that with my natural hair, though some work is involved, but I don't mind because I like to see what my hair does. I wish I would have figured much of this stuff out years ago.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
I was going to do a fenugreek DC first, but NappyHeadedJojoba has me CONVINCED to try this asap, even though I have a couple of bottles of Soultanicals Hair Glide.
DIY Product: NappyHeadedJojoba's Prepoo & Detangler
Ingredients:
DIY Product: NappyHeadedJojoba's Prepoo & Detangler
Ingredients:
- 3 ounces coconut oil
- 3 ounces conditioner (WITH SLIP!)
- 1 ounce coconut water vinegar
- 1 ounce 100% coconut cream
- essential oils of your choice
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Alright!!! Sookie, sookie nah (now) 
:
I'm about to do my very first DIY product: NappyHeadedJojoba's DIY Prepoo and Detangler (featuring coconut vinegar)
Here is MY version for tonight:
Here is her ingredients (copied and pasted from beneath her video) and video:
:I'm about to do my very first DIY product: NappyHeadedJojoba's DIY Prepoo and Detangler (featuring coconut vinegar)
Here is MY version for tonight:
- 3 Tbsp of coconut oil
- 3 Tbsp of conditioner with slip!!! (I will be using Curl Junkie Smooth Lotion leave-in conditioner because it's the slipperiest hair product I've ever seen to-date)
- 1 Tbsp of coconut vinegar
- 1 Tbsp of 100% coconut cream
- Essential oils of choice (I'm going to use a peaches and cream oil for aroma)
Here is her ingredients (copied and pasted from beneath her video) and video:
- 3 ounces of coconut oil
- 3 ounces of conditioner with slip!!!
- 1 ounce of coconut water vinegar
- 1 ounce of 100% coconut cream
- Essential oils of choice
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Alright!!! Sookie, sookie nah (now)
I'm about to do my very first DIY product: NappyHeadedJojoba's DIY Prepoo and Detangler (featuring coconut vinegar)
Here is MY version for tonight:
I am sooooooo tempted to add fenugreek, but I won't this time around.
- 3 Tbsp of coconut oil
- 3 Tbsp of conditioner with slip!!! (I will be using Curl Junkie Smooth Lotion leave-in conditioner because it's the slipperiest hair product I've ever seen to-date)
- 1 Tbsp of coconut vinegar
- 1 Tbsp of 100% coconut cream
- Essential oils of choice (I'm going to use a peaches and cream oil for aroma)
Here is her ingredients (copied and pasted from beneath her video) and video:
- 3 ounces of coconut oil
- 3 ounces of conditioner with slip!!!
- 1 ounce of coconut water vinegar
- 1 ounce of 100% coconut cream
- Essential oils of choice
Here is my experience: https://myhairgrowthstudyexperience...gler-vs-soultanicals-slip-n-slide-hair-glide/
I let the DIY prepoo/detangler "battle" against my holy grail detangler, Soultanicals Hair Glide.
At the blog post linked above, I include a 30-second video clip showing the DIY product's consistency. I discuss purchasing of the ingredients, and I discuss an ingredients-related ISSUE (is it supposed to be coconut VINEGAR or coconut WATER VINEGAR -- because both products exist -- or does it not matter because these are one in the same???).
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
Nice battle, @YvetteWithJoy . Maybe you can test the vinegar alone to see if it smoothes down the cuticle layer, which is why some have success detangling with ACV.
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
I'll shoot! I'll post in the order of what I think is the easiest way to get started doing DIY.
Teas! Ayurvedic & Herbal rinses.
For Ayurvedic powders, I like to use 1 wooden spoonful of powder.
For herbs, I like to use 1/4 cup loose leaf herbs.
Put them in a 24 ounce mason jar.
Boil a huge pot of water and pour the boiling water on top of herbs. Let steep on counter overnight.
Strain the loose leaf herbs with a strainer. Depending on how large or small the leaves are will determine which size strainer I use.
Strain the powders through a knee high sock.
For my length of hair, 6 ounces is more than enough so I pour what I'm not using in ice tray molds and freeze. Store in ziplock bags in freezer.
My favorite way to use: prepoo.
Rinse hair well in sink with warm water to loosen up and remove as much old product as possible. Apply tea to scalp, massage in and rinse as you would shampoo. Apply tea again for a 2nd round to scalp and hair. Squeeze out excess. Let sit under plastic cap for 15 minutes to 1 hour. Steaming it in is even better.
Wash and condition as normal.
I also use herbal infused teas as the base of other DIY's.
I purchase my herbs in bulk from iherb or vitacost. I've been able to find a few in grocery stores as well that are just as good if you are not into ordering online.
I purchase Ayurvedic powders from Hennasooq. My local Indian markets kinda suck so I have to order online.
Mason jars: my local grocery store
Happy DIY'ing!
Teas! Ayurvedic & Herbal rinses.
For Ayurvedic powders, I like to use 1 wooden spoonful of powder.
For herbs, I like to use 1/4 cup loose leaf herbs.
Put them in a 24 ounce mason jar.
Boil a huge pot of water and pour the boiling water on top of herbs. Let steep on counter overnight.
Strain the loose leaf herbs with a strainer. Depending on how large or small the leaves are will determine which size strainer I use.
Strain the powders through a knee high sock.
For my length of hair, 6 ounces is more than enough so I pour what I'm not using in ice tray molds and freeze. Store in ziplock bags in freezer.
My favorite way to use: prepoo.
Rinse hair well in sink with warm water to loosen up and remove as much old product as possible. Apply tea to scalp, massage in and rinse as you would shampoo. Apply tea again for a 2nd round to scalp and hair. Squeeze out excess. Let sit under plastic cap for 15 minutes to 1 hour. Steaming it in is even better.
Wash and condition as normal.
I also use herbal infused teas as the base of other DIY's.
I purchase my herbs in bulk from iherb or vitacost. I've been able to find a few in grocery stores as well that are just as good if you are not into ordering online.
I purchase Ayurvedic powders from Hennasooq. My local Indian markets kinda suck so I have to order online.
Mason jars: my local grocery store
Happy DIY'ing!
Aggie
Well-Known Member
I think I will be joining you on doing some things DIY but I will still use my other commercial and handmade products intermittently. I will be using mostly ayurveda powders and natural herbs. I do need to order some more herbs that I'm interested in first. Love your thread @Sharpened
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guyaneseyankee
Well-Known Member
Awesome @lulu97
I've made a diy liquid black soap concoction by melting the soap and adding grapeseed oil and olive oil along with essential oils. I really liked the results. My hair felt very moisturized. I don't believe i even own any commercial shampoo so I will keep using this
I also like to whip up my own shea and mango butters. Shea, I will now use for my skin (it makes my hair hard I'm finding out) BUT the mango butter YESSSS! It seals my hair nicely
Let's not forget the Curly Proverbz hair oil. I have that sitting on my counter as well. I like it. We'll see if I achieve recognizable growth. My hair already grows pretty fast, so I'm curious if it can be increased with this oil. Just received a scalp massager in the mail today. Can't wait to try it out.
I've made a diy liquid black soap concoction by melting the soap and adding grapeseed oil and olive oil along with essential oils. I really liked the results. My hair felt very moisturized. I don't believe i even own any commercial shampoo so I will keep using this
I also like to whip up my own shea and mango butters. Shea, I will now use for my skin (it makes my hair hard I'm finding out) BUT the mango butter YESSSS! It seals my hair nicely
Let's not forget the Curly Proverbz hair oil. I have that sitting on my counter as well. I like it. We'll see if I achieve recognizable growth. My hair already grows pretty fast, so I'm curious if it can be increased with this oil. Just received a scalp massager in the mail today. Can't wait to try it out.
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
Oooohhh that sounds lovely. Thankfully, our house came with a fridge that had a huge freezer so I have my own little tray to store my DIY stuff. We do have an extra fridge in the garage but we don't use it. If I ever need extra room, I'mma sneak and turn it on! LOL
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
I think that's an awesome idea. Maybe start with using DIY stuff to pre-poo but all your other products the same way. That's an easy way to not get overwhelmed or burned out.
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
I love everything you mentioned! I make a black soap based shampoo too. I also adore mango butter and the oil from the CurlyProverbz thread.
Just like you, I prefer mango butter for my hair and shea for my face.
Psssstttt
....the black soap shampoo makes a great face wash (or just using it straight). Diluted ACV in a spray bottle to tone and a smidgen of shea butter to moisturize. Flawless skin galore. 
guyaneseyankee
Well-Known Member
I love everything you mentioned! I make a black soap based shampoo too. I also adore mango butter and the oil from the CurlyProverbz thread.
Just like you, I prefer mango butter for my hair and shea for my face.
Psssstttt
When I use straight black soap, it's very drying. I didn't even think to use my shampoo. I will try the diluted ACV as a toner. I usually use coconut oil as a base when my skin is wet then towel off. Then seal with shea butter.
Thanks
I need mason jars and applicator bottles this weekend.
ElevatedEnergy
Rooted Yet Flowing
When I use straight black soap, it's very drying. I didn't even think to use my shampoo. I will try the diluted ACV as a toner. I usually use coconut oil as a base when my skin is wet then towel off. Then seal with shea butter.
Thanks
I need mason jars and applicator bottles this weekend.
Where do you purchase your black soap? I have two different kinds and one is super drying so I can't use it straight. I HAVE to use it diluted. The 2nd one I have already contains shea and coconut oil so I can use it straight.
Give me a sec and I'll go look up the ingredients.
guyaneseyankee
Well-Known Member
i bought from Plant Guru Inc. But they were very expensive. I forget the weight. but I was not happy. I told my husband not to use it, because he likes to waste i, melting it in the water stream. LOL
But when I went home, I found a round circular one in a Caribbean bodega for like $20. I hope it's good. I haven't used it yet but I was very impressed with the weight. It was definitely more than 2 lbs.
