*>Diva Smooth<*-- >An Alternative to Relaxers?<

[naturalgurl]

Ummm..... This is probably exactly why they won't list ingredients on the site. Just so people like you can try to whip it up on your own and attempt to put the poor product out of business. If you want to know the ingredients that bad, simply purchase the product and then check out the label.

First, I quoted you because I too thought this way, but not anymore. So don't take this as a personal attack...
Well, I don't know about everyone else BUT, if they wouldn't add all of the bullcrap fillers they add and stop lying about what they don't add then just MAYBE they wouldn't run themselves out of business. It was being lied to and manipulated into thinking I was buying a lot of goodness in a bottle that has me making my own hair stuff. Why give my money to them when I can make my own hair grow with research? Why buy their crap just to find out the good stuff they add? Most hair products(not all, most) for black women are for those who don't read or are lazy(don't get mad, I used to be one), that's just my opinion. But if you want something bad enough, look for it. It won't just land in your lap. What's wrong with putting the ingredients out there? If I patent my mixture of coconut oil, raw shea and olive oil mixture does this mean no one else can mix these for themselves? Most times when people don't want to give up info, it's to hide something. If it's to make money, then say so...

Also, when I saw the ingredients to the hair wash or whatever, the first thing that popped in my head was castile soap. Is this why they don't want to share because they are biting off of other's blends too? But won't give us a listing so we can't do the same...PLEASE!

 

[sunshinelady]

Y'all sure are giving this chick a lot of free publicity....

 

[Lucky's Mom]

First, I quoted you because I too thought this way, but not anymore. So don't take this as a personal attack...
Well, I don't know about everyone else BUT, if they wouldn't add all of the bullcrap fillers they add and stop lying about what they don't add then just MAYBE they wouldn't run themselves out of business. It was being lied to and manipulated into thinking I was buying a lot of goodness in a bottle that has me making my own hair stuff. Why give my money to them when I can make my own hair grow with research? Why buy their crap just to find out the good stuff they add? Most hair products(not all, most) for black women are for those who don't read or are lazy(don't get mad, I used to be one), that's just my opinion. But if you want something bad enough, look for it. It won't just land in your lap. What's wrong with putting the ingredients out there? If I patent my mixture of coconut oil, raw shea and olive oil mixture does this mean no one else can mix these for themselves? Most times when people don't want to give up info, it's to hide something. If it's to make money, then say so...

Also, when I saw the ingredients to the hair wash or whatever, the first thing that popped in my head was castile soap. Is this why they don't want to share because they are biting off of other's blends too? But won't give us a listing so we can't do the same...PLEASE!

Thank you baby sis. A voice of Reason. That is all I was saying.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

looking at the ingredients listings for her other products, she prolly a member of LHCF...

Prolly so.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

OK - here is my chat session with customer service.....

Samantha:

Hi there! What is the ingredient listing for Diva Smooth? I am EXTREMELY hesitant to purchase any 'natural' relaxer.... The Copa and Rio products were natural too....

Welcome Samantha! Your request has been directed to the Customer Service department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call.

Call accepted by operator Susan. Currently in room: Susan, Samantha.

Susan:

Hi Samantha!
Samantha:

hi!
Susan:

I understand your hesitation
Samantha:

No ingredients - NO purchase for me
Susan:

we can't actually give the ingredient over chat because Diva Smooth is actually being patented at the moment THEN WHY is IT ON THE MARKET?
Susan:

However
Samantha:

Oh - I see.
Susan:

where are you based?
Samantha:

California
Susan:

We won't be out there for a while. But I can invite you to one of our hair shows if you sign up for email
Susan:

so you can see the product for yourself
Susan:

I can assure you it's completely natural
Samantha:

Well, how can you sell it online without ingredient lisitngs?
Susan:

We only need to give complete disclosure on the ingredient label
Samantha:

Oh.... OK... Well I will certainley wait to see how others like it. I am extremely picky, and I use organic/ natrual products now... there is no way I would buy it without sufficient information.
Susan:

I Totally understand that
Susan:

you can email customer service and ask them to mail you an ingredient listing
Samantha:

oh - can you give me that e-mail?
Susan:

[email protected]
Samantha:

thanks

Bottom line..... HECK no...............I don't trust that it is not something that - well - would not work - or WORSE.

Maybe - if we flood them with e-mails.....

This excellent detective work!!

 

[Lucky's Mom]

This excellent detective work!!

Thanks Sis!

 

[infojunkie]

***Hanging around waiting on replies***

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I agree. But on their site, the Rosemary and Mint Hair Wash sounds interesting.
Listing: Saponified Organic Oils of Coconut, Olive & Jojoba, Peppermint Essential Oil Blend, Vegetable Gum / Glycerin Extract, Organic Aloe Vera, Rosemary Extract

This sounds like your run of the mill SLS free shampoo...

 

[LivingDoll]

I'll be back on Friday.

 

[msa]

If you want relaxer straight hair, then you'll have to get a relaxer.

An all-natural, "chemical" free product is not going to give you relaxer results. If it does, you should be worried.

 

[blasianbeauty]

Sounds way too good to be true. If anyone is courageous enough to buy it, let us know what the ingredients are. I am so wary of 'natural' straightening treatments that are not home made. Remember Rio was supposed to be sooooooo natural you could eat it? YUCK!

Was Rio similar to this I suppose? What happened?

 

[blasianbeauty]

Y'all sure are giving this chick a lot of free publicity....

Publicity means nothin around here. All it takes is for one member or better yet, a Hair Goddess to try this out and praise it...make it the next "bandwagon" and THEN she'll be rollin in the $$$$. Until then, I don't think anyone is gonna touch this with a 10 foot pole. It's funny how things work around here, but that's what I've noticed.

 

[1babydimple]

I've been following this thread because the end of next month I will be 1yr chemical free. I'm currently in braids and know when they come down I've got a mess. SOOOOOO I've been trying to figure out what to do without a relaxer aaannnnndddd I ordered it yall I took the bait, to nosy.
When it arrives I will definately post the ingredients -if they're listed erplexed (who knows) I can't figure the big secret. Anway only one of us will have wasted her money if it's scam.

 

[omnipadme]

I've been following this thread because the end of next month I will be 1yr chemical free. I'm currently in braids and know when they come down I've got a mess. SOOOOOO I've been trying to figure out what to do without a relaxer aaannnnndddd I ordered it yall I took the bait, to nosy.
When it arrives I will definately post the ingredients -if they're listed erplexed (who knows) I can't figure the big secret. Anway only one of us will have wasted her money if it's scam.

WOW...can't wait to see your results!

 

[Mystic]

The person who seemed to have created the product has jacked up hair. Maybe she should use the product on her hair first, then she might be more convincing.

 

[Casarela]

MYSTIC YOU ARE ONE MEAN WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO ITS CALLED UNE COUPE(CUT) ASSIMETRIQUE(ASYMERTRICAL..DID I SPELL IT RIGHT?)

The person who seemed to have created the product has jacked up hair. Maybe she should use the product on her hair first, then she might be more convincing.

 

[Sui Topi]

The person who seemed to have created the product has jacked up hair. Maybe she should use the product on her hair first, then she might be more convincing.

JERK!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I've been following this thread because the end of next month I will be 1yr chemical free. I'm currently in braids and know when they come down I've got a mess. SOOOOOO I've been trying to figure out what to do without a relaxer aaannnnndddd I ordered it yall I took the bait, to nosy.
When it arrives I will definately post the ingredients -if they're listed erplexed (who knows) I can't figure the big secret. Anway only one of us will have wasted her money if it's scam.

We got a live one!! Right here! Thanks for taking one for the team

 

[LeopardLover77]

The person who seemed to have created the product has jacked up hair. Maybe she should use the product on her hair first, then she might be more convincing.

Very mean and uncalled for.

 

[Sui Topi]

First, I quoted you because I too thought this way, but not anymore. So don't take this as a personal attack...
Well, I don't know about everyone else BUT, if they wouldn't add all of the bullcrap fillers they add and stop lying about what they don't add then just MAYBE they wouldn't run themselves out of business. It was being lied to and manipulated into thinking I was buying a lot of goodness in a bottle that has me making my own hair stuff. Why give my money to them when I can make my own hair grow with research? Why buy their crap just to find out the good stuff they add? Most hair products(not all, most) for black women are for those who don't read or are lazy(don't get mad, I used to be one), that's just my opinion. But if you want something bad enough, look for it. It won't just land in your lap. What's wrong with putting the ingredients out there? If I patent my mixture of coconut oil, raw shea and olive oil mixture does this mean no one else can mix these for themselves? Most times when people don't want to give up info, it's to hide something. If it's to make money, then say so...

Also, when I saw the ingredients to the hair wash or whatever, the first thing that popped in my head was castile soap. Is this why they don't want to share because they are biting off of other's blends too? But won't give us a listing so we can't do the same...PLEASE!

Ding ding ding!!!! Honestly that is the truth. We can make everything ourselves, but the thing is some people don't have the time or can't be bothered and in providing "natural alternatives" that is where you come in. Just be honest because if you are not it will come back and bite you in the butt lol. Especially when dealing with LHCF because we are soo passionate about our hair it's not something that we can just take and move on with.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

The person who seemed to have created the product has jacked up hair. Maybe she should use the product on her hair first, then she might be more convincing.

Wow. This is Terrible to say.... This is not personal. This is about products and how they work for us.....

Shameful.

 

[kaykaybobay]

maybe the maker of the product wants her hair the way it is, I found nothing wrong with it

 

[Rei]

Does everyone except me know about this Rio thing? What is rio?

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Does everyone except me know about this Rio thing? What is rio?

here are a couple of articles regarding rio....

http://www.productliabilitylawyer.c.../Hair-Relaxers-Destroyed-After-Consumers.html

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00620.html

 

[Tallone]

Ding ding ding!!!! Honestly that is the truth. We can make everything ourselves, but the thing is some people don't have the time or can't be bothered and in providing "natural alternatives" that is where you come in. Just be honest because if you are not it will come back and bite you in the butt lol. Especially when dealing with LHCF because we are soo passionate about our hair it's not something that we can just take and move on with.

ITA aaaaaannddd......
Taking the whole whip up a batch at home out of the equation; how about I have the right to know what the hell I'm putting in my hair or on my body?! Post the ingredient list!!

 

[hurricane]

Wow...this is an intense thread. I really don't know of any natural ingredient that can straighten out new growth. Am I the only one? I have to do some research.

 

[patient1]

More than likely she's protecting her product from other companies not individuals. If she released the ingredients before it was protected another company could swoop down on the formula, patent it themselves and stop HER from producing it. The business of legal ownership is just that dirty.

There's a family legend about an ancestor selling the recipe for Jiffy cornbread for a dollar. So perhaps I'm a bit biased....

p1

 

[LaReyna756]

Wow...this is an intense thread. I really don't know of any natural ingredient that can straighten out new growth. Am I the only one? I have to do some research.

AND, that can last for four weeks...

 

[texasqt]

I've been following this thread because the end of next month I will be 1yr chemical free. I'm currently in braids and know when they come down I've got a mess. SOOOOOO I've been trying to figure out what to do without a relaxer aaannnnndddd I ordered it yall I took the bait, to nosy.
When it arrives I will definately post the ingredients -if they're listed erplexed (who knows) I can't figure the big secret. Anway only one of us will have wasted her money if it's scam.

Please do update us if you do decide to use it (and only then apply it to a very small section in the back of your head). Appreciate ya!

 

[SouthernTease]

Imma need to see the ingredients....

Hmmm... interesting... subscribing.