*>Diva Smooth<*-- >An Alternative to Relaxers?<

[HoneyDew]

I must be reading a completely different thread than some of y'all.

I am with you girl.

I am not getting what some are staying,.

 

[naturalgurl]

/\/\/\ I am an ingredient freak. I NEED to know what's in anything before I use it. Period.

The concern about people "stealing" and replicating the formula is not valid. Most people are not interested in mixing things up in their kitchen sink, and prefer buying things already made, especially when they work well. If her product has only natural ingredients and does what it claims to do, she has NOTHING to worry about. There will be tons of PJ ordering, and I might even order it too. lol.

You got that right! I'm not trying to save a buck, I'm trying to keep my hair. I WISH someone would make products with truly ALL natural ingredients. Sometimes I run out of stuff and in a rush mix in my hands and apply. It would be easy to order or run to the store on a shopping spree. I must confess, I get jealous sometimes because people are raving about products I can't use. I sometimes feel like such an outsider and weirdo because I have to make my stuff. Sort of like the kid in school who has bring their own lunch everyday because they have food allergies. Oh well....

 

[dm81]

I must be reading a completely different thread than some of y'all.

Yeah...I mean this thread was pretty long, but I didn't see anything extra harsh like some people keep going on about (the only thing out of line was calling the person's hair busted...). I also feel like Vanessa really didn't answer anything, she just danced around questions. 28 pages and there is STILL no ingredient list and that's all people want :::smh:::

 

[msa]

You got that right! I'm not trying to save a buck, I'm trying to keep my hair. I WISH someone would make products with truly ALL natural ingredients. Sometimes I run out of stuff and in a rush mix in my hands and apply. It would be easy to order or run to the store on a shopping spree. I must confess, I get jealous sometimes because people are raving about products I can't use. I sometimes feel like such an outsider and weirdo because I have to make my stuff. Sort of like the kid in school who has bring their own lunch everyday because they have food allergies. Oh well....

OMG me too. I'm like can I get some Hawaiian Silky 14n1? Nope, no I can't. And all the cool natural products are super expensive and have to be shipped to me. And part of the reason I use all natural is due to the environment and the sustainability of the earth. I can't possibly feel good about ordering Anita Grant products when they have to be shipped from another country using up all kind of natural resources and emitting pollution all the way here.

It's hard sometimes.

 

[PGirl]

Having the ingredients doesnt necessarily mean you can rip a product. There is more to a product than the ingredients. Why dont you volunteer to be our guinea pig and rub this stuff all over your pretty hair and scalp and let us know how it works. Since you require less information and dont need to know what is in it.

Wow your sarcasm is unappreciated to say the least, but if you must know...I was contacted (via PM) by Diva's agent asking me if I would like a free kit. I sent my info as requested, and Janelle's Beauty Customer service let me know that I will get a kit next week. Even though I am very upset with how this thread went down and the negativity that has transpired here, I will be a guinea pig for you.

I will put it all over "my pretty little head" just for you despite your inconsideration of me. Shame on you...

 

[kaykaybobay]

I agree, kind have been friendlier chat session.

 

[sunflower]

Wow your sarcasm is unappreciated to say the least, but if you must know...I was contacted (via PM) by Diva's agent asking me if I would like a free kit. I sent my info as requested, and Janelle's Beauty Customer service let me know that I will get a kit next week. Even though I am very upset with how this thread went down and the negativity that has transpired here, I will be a guinea pig for you.

I will put it all over "my pretty little head" just for you despite your inconsideration of me. Shame on you...

SMDH, at this thread. Let us know how it works out for you PGgirl and thanks for taking the plunge.

 

[asiaticdiva]

Can't we all just get along.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

/\/\/\ I am an ingredient freak. I NEED to know what's in anything before I use it. Period.

The concern about people "stealing" and replicating the formula is not valid. Most people are not interested in mixing things up in their kitchen sink, and prefer buying things already made, especially when they work well. If her product has only natural ingredients and does what it claims to do, she has NOTHING to worry about. There will be tons of PJ ordering, and I might even order it too. lol.

YEP. I am just like you. It is not personal. This is about my hair. That is it.

I ain't trying to sell her stuff. I want what works.. And Everyone does not want to mix stuff in their own kitchen. And Some Do....

 

[Lucky's Mom]

You got that right! I'm not trying to save a buck, I'm trying to keep my hair. I WISH someone would make products with truly ALL natural ingredients. Sometimes I run out of stuff and in a rush mix in my hands and apply. It would be easy to order or run to the store on a shopping spree. I must confess, I get jealous sometimes because people are raving about products I can't use. I sometimes feel like such an outsider and weirdo because I have to make my stuff. Sort of like the kid in school who has bring their own lunch everyday because they have food allergies. Oh well....

Yup. I am with you sis. I gotta make stuff before I hop in the shower. AND You are not weird....

Lots of people are doing this.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Yeah...I mean this thread was pretty long, but I didn't see anything extra harsh like some people keep going on about (the only thing out of line was calling the person's hair busted...). I also feel like Vanessa really didn't answer anything, she just danced around questions. 28 pages and there is STILL no ingredient list and that's all people want :::smh:::

Yea. Kinda sad.

That is OK. Folks will order - and somehow we will know what is in it eventually.

 

[Solitude]

Oh my. Why is this thread still open?

 

[Lucky's Mom]

OMG me too. I'm like can I get some Hawaiian Silky 14n1? Nope, no I can't. And all the cool natural products are super expensive and have to be shipped to me. And part of the reason I use all natural is due to the environment and the sustainability of the earth. I can't possibly feel good about ordering Anita Grant products when they have to be shipped from another country using up all kind of natural resources and emitting pollution all the way here.

It's hard sometimes.

Yes - it is.... That is ok... Your hair will love you for it.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Wow your sarcasm is unappreciated to say the least, but if you must know...I was contacted (via PM) by Diva's agent asking me if I would like a free kit. I sent my info as requested, and Janelle's Beauty Customer service let me know that I will get a kit next week. Even though I am very upset with how this thread went down and the negativity that has transpired here, I will be a guinea pig for you.

I will put it all over "my pretty little head" just for you despite your inconsideration of me. Shame on you...

Please let us know how it turns out.

 

[msa]

Yeah...I mean this thread was pretty long, but I didn't see anything extra harsh like some people keep going on about (the only thing out of line was calling the person's hair busted...). I also feel like Vanessa really didn't answer anything, she just danced around questions. 28 pages and there is STILL no ingredient list and that's all people want :::smh:::

Lack of preparation is an issue.


When everyone tries it, please report back. I'm interested to hear the results.

 

[jennboo]

Warning, unpopular sentiments to follow...


Wow. Folks are so desperate to get that straight silky hair, they are willing to slap on some non-descript product that claims to do the same thing a deep conditioner would do (allow for easier flat-ironing, body, shine, manageability). If this product does indeed straighten the kinkiest of hair to the point where in its wet state it will remain straight...IT IS NOT ALL NATURAL.

 

[1babydimple]

Well I haven't received my package yet but customer service called. They wanted to know if I wanted a consultation with Janelle before using the product or if I had any questions, so I can say the customer service seems to be excellent ..... so far.

And someone metioned protecting ingredients from other companies, absolutley right, because you know if 1 company is successful every other one will have a product out next week. From Revlon to B&B

They probably do have someone lurking the boards - "One never knows, do one"

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Lack of preparation is an issue.


When everyone tries it, please report back. I'm interested to hear the results.

Yep. AAAAHGREED.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Warning, unpopular sentiments to follow...


Wow. Folks are so desperate to get that straight silky hair, they are willing to slap on some non-descript product that claims to do the same thing a deep conditioner would do (allow for easier flat-ironing, body, shine, manageability). If this product does indeed straighten the kinkiest of hair to the point where in its wet state it will remain straight...IT IS NOT ALL NATURAL.

Hilarious!

 

[msa]

Oh my. Why is this thread still open?

You should definitely report it if you feel that it should be closed.

 

[amani_shortandsweet]

Wow...maybe I'm just tired but some of these posts are a bit much for me.

She was kind enough to come on here to talk about her product, then she gets criticized for sharing her life story, how she said what she said, her spelling mistakes, her business sense (and whatever else) then gets told to come back after she gets herself together. I don't know why she couldn't have been pm'd about some of these concerns.

So what if she has spelling mistakes? If we take her life history at face value, her starting her own company as a mother whose been through all that is a marvelous accomplishment in and of itself. Sure its not good business to have your self represented on a board like that for the first time, but she obviously didn't even know about LHCF and even how to post. I am sure she would have reconsidered if she knew the scope of this board. Of course it may lower her credibility for some, but why underscore that (among other things) for the whole world to see when as was said, this site will probably pop up when people google it. Again, if the concern is really to help her promote herself better, it would have been wiser and more tactful to send her a pm.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and can ultimately post whatever they want. In my opinion, the line between being helpful and condescending was crossed too many times.

- Goodnight.

Well said....

 

[chiprecious]

27+ pgs and no ingredient list....
I sent this email to them today and got the response below. Hopefully they are being truthful...

Hello Yvonne,

The website will be updated with the ingredient list of all the
products in the hair section of the website within the next 12 hours
or so.

Thank you for your interest!

Customer Service Team
Janelle Beauty
http://www.janellebeauty.com

 

[tnorenberg]

Wow your sarcasm is unappreciated to say the least, but if you must know...I was contacted (via PM) by Diva's agent asking me if I would like a free kit. I sent my info as requested, and Janelle's Beauty Customer service let me know that I will get a kit next week. Even though I am very upset with how this thread went down and the negativity that has transpired here, I will be a guinea pig for you.

I will put it all over "my pretty little head" just for you despite your inconsideration of me. Shame on you...

PGirl, thanks for taking the high road in what obviously turned into an ugly, immature fit-fest. I am so glad I kind of tuned out of this thread earlier. For those of us really interested in this product I am glad they offered it to you for free. Many relaxed heads here on this board strive for healthier hair and an alternative to chemical relaxers if it is really possible to forgoe the harsh transition process. I think that's what it keeping most of from doing it. So kudos to you. Let us know how it goes...and the ingredient list

 

[Solitude]

You should definitely report it if you feel that it should be closed.

Actually, I'm still a newbie - even though I post a lot, so I don't know how to do that. I guess you would PM a mod?? IDK, but I don't care all that much, so.....

What I don't understand is whyyyyyyyy naturals are all up in and over every thread that mentions a relaxer! Naturals talk about relaxers & relaxers alternatives more than relaxed heads.

Bottom line is, people will continue to use chemicals, Okay??? This is not Nappturality.

ETA: Whether it's actually natural or not, people will use it if it works. If you don't want to try it, don't use it. I, too, agree that the ingredients should be listed, but it's not that serious!

 

[HoneyDew]

Actually, I'm still a newbie - even though I post a lot, so I don't know how to do that. I guess you would PM a mod?? IDK, but I don't care all that much, so.....

What I don't understand is whyyyyyyyy naturals are all up in and over every thread that mentions a relaxer! Naturals talk about relaxers & relaxers alternatives more than relaxed heads.

Bottom line is, people will continue to use chemicals, Okay??? This is not Nappturality.

Okay dem fightin' words.

 

[HoneyDew]

PGirl, thanks for taking the high road in what obviously turned into an ugly, immature fit-fest. I am so glad I kind of tuned out of this thread earlier. For those of us really interested in this product I am glad they offered it to you for free. Many relaxed heads here on this board strive for healthier hair and an alternative to chemical relaxers if it is really possible to forgoe the harsh transition process. I think that's what it keeping most of from doing it. So kudos to you. Let us know how it goes...and the ingredient list

I agree. I am excited to hear a review!

 

[1babydimple]

I was just thinking I wonder if it has Extract of Daphne Gnidium which is in Naturalaxer, Herbal Tame and think Baka too. I've used Herbal Tame when I was natural years ago and it doesn't straighten AT ALL but it made my hair softer and easier to manage. Maybe a different grade it would straighten but my fro was just a softer fro LOL

 

[PGirl]

Actually, I'm still a newbie - even though I post a lot, so I don't know how to do that. I guess you would PM a mod?? IDK, but I don't care all that much, so.....

What I don't understand is whyyyyyyyy naturals are all up in and over every thread that mentions a relaxer! Naturals talk about relaxers & relaxers alternatives more than relaxed heads.

Bottom line is, people will continue to use chemicals, Okay??? This is not Nappturality.

ETA: Whether it's actually natural or not, people will use it if it works. If you don't want to try it, don't use it. I, too, agree that the ingredients should be listed, but it's not that serious!

You just shed some light for me! I have been so aggravated by this thread and you just made me feel better. We have different needs for our hair but in the end we really all just want beautiful, healthy hair. Everything doesn't have to be such a controversy. We will get the ingredients soon. We will get some results soon too. Just wait...

 

[HoneyDew]

You just shed some light for me! I have been so aggravated by this thread and you just made me feel better. We have different needs for our hair but in the end we really all just want beautiful, healthy hair. Everything doesn't have to be such a controversy. We will get the ingredients soon. We will get some results soon too. Just wait...

OT Pgirl, but what rollers did you use for the set in your avatar? I love that.

thanks!

 

[Bint Yusef]

Warning, unpopular sentiments to follow...


Wow. Folks are so desperate to get that straight silky hair, they are willing to slap on some non-descript product that claims to do the same thing a deep conditioner would do (allow for easier flat-ironing, body, shine, manageability). If this product does indeed straighten the kinkiest of hair to the point where in its wet state it will remain straight...IT IS NOT ALL NATURAL.

Thank you and they will be the first ones running back here for sympathy with a jacked up head looking like the dood in my siggy. Trying to make folks who want to be informed look bad.