Could we have an updated-4a/b roll call? Apologies...

[mstasha]

4B Checking in

Relaxer:
Affirm every 7-8 weeks

Shampoos:
CON
Nexxus
PM Super Skinny
Keracare
Aubrey Island Butter

Conditioners:
Nexxus Humectress
PM Super Skinny
Keracare Humecto
Aubrey Island Butter

Deep Conditioners:
10 en 1
Any con/ Heat

Protein:
Aphogee
Nexxus Emergencee
Aubrey GPB

Leave In:
Salerm21
Lacio Lacio
Keracare Leave In

Serum:
John Frieda Frizz Ease
Silk N Seal

Moisturizers:
Elasta QP
S-Curl

Oils:
WGO
Alma Oil
Wheat germ Oil
Jojoba Oil
Coconut Oil

Treatments:
WGO
MTG
La India

Others:
Paul Mitchell's Foaming Pomade
Rap N’ Tap
Keracare Setting Lotion
Keracare Foam Rap
Surge

I don't have a washing schedule yet. I just wash every few days depending on want my hair needs and what style I want to try. Working on more sold my hair dryer and I am protective styles.

 

[tenderheaded]

Hi, I'm relaxed 4a/4b.

Poos: CON, Motions Lavish Moisture, Aphogee Poo for Damaged Hair

Condish: ORS RP, ORS Hair Mayo, Loreal Mermade, Aphogee Reconstructor and Treatment for damaged hair, Elasta QP, Salerm 21, Silk Elements Leave-In

Oils: WGO, coconut oil, carrot oil, EVOO

 

[ghanaian dime]

4a/b checking in!

 

[Royal Glory]

4 a/b, I believe.

 

[glamazon386]

4a Natural Checking in!

Poos
Nexxus Therappe
NTM

Cons
Nexxus Humectress
NTM DDC
LeKair Shea Cholesterol Creme

DCs
ORS Pak

Moisturizers
Pure Mango Butter
QP Mango Butter
Kids Organics Shea Detangling Lotion

Styling Aids
QP Glaze
QP Curl Wax
Fantasia Gel - Blue one

 

[ak46]

I'm also 4a/b. This is what I've been using lately:

Shampoo:
CON detangling

Conditioners:
Keracare Humecto (deep),
Nexxus Humectress (instant),
Nexxus Headdress (leave-in);
Suave Milk & Honey (co-wash)
Suave Kiwi w/ avacado oil (pre-poo)

Moisturizers:
ORS Olive Oil Cream
African Pride Braid Spray

Growth Aides & Oils:
Jojoba Oil
Surge
MTG replica
Wondergro Pure Sulfur Oil
MN mix
Peppermint & Rosemary EO's

-that's pretty much it. I will try NTM Silk Touch as a moisturizer once I take a break from braids.

 

[JewelleNY]

I have mostly 4a and some 4b. I use CON shampoo and conditioer, olive oil, cocnut oil, and now DooGro oil. I use ORS leave-in hair mayo conditioner and Baby Love detangling spray to detangle.

 

[MzOptimistic]

I'm 4 a

my shampoos are:

Con(green bottle)
Keracare detangling shampoo
ORS aloe shampoo
AO blue camoille shampoo
NTM shampoo

my conditioners:

Keracare humecto
Paltas conditioner
ORS hair mayonaise
Con nourishing conditioner
NTM daily conditioner

protein treatments:

Motions critical protection repair
Fantasia's Aloe/Vitamin Anti-breakage formula deep penetrating creme moisturizer for extra dry hair and scalp
Aubrey Organics GPB
Aphogee 2 min reconstructor

leave ins:

Africa Best leave in mayonaise
NTM silk touch
Rusk Smoother

moisurizers:

UBH dew mist

For my dry hair:

Vitapointe hairdress creme-I

Serums:

NTM healing shine
John Freida anti frizz

Seal Ends with:

Profective healthy ends or Mango butter

Oils

Kemi Oyl to seal ends

I rotate everything on a weekly basis

That's all I can think of now...

 

[CarmelTreat]

I'm a 4a/b as well. Here's what I use:

Shampoos:
Cream of Nature Conditioning Shampoo (green and white bottle)
Elasta QP Cream Conditioning Shampoo
NTM shampoo
Herbal Essence or Nexxus Aloe Rid (for clarifying)

Condiitoners/Treatments:
KeraCare Humecto
Mizani Moisturefuse
Dudley DRC
(used Aphogee Treatement in th past)

Leave-ins:
Profective Breakfree
Giovanni Direct Leave-in

Moisturizers:
Africa's Best Kid's Organics Shea Butter Detangler
BB Oil Moisturizer with Castor Oil and Aloe
Elasta QP Recovery
Water + conditioner in spray bottle
Surge 14 (on edges and temples only)

Oils:
KeraCare Essentail Oils
Surge Lotion Motion Oil

 

[BackToMyRoots]

First time poster here, although i've been reading this board for over a year. So hello to all!!

I'm a 4B - Although I have yet to see any other 4's with my texture. Thick, unruly, resistant and coarse. In it's natural state my hair does not lay down by applying gel etc. Oh no! My boyfriend says that I have the denses hair he has ever seen. Although it is a pain to manage i love my hair, but I need to work on retaining length, since my hair is dry and breaks easily! Anyhoo, the products i use are:

Shampoos:
Ojon Hydrating Shampoo (just started)
Garnier Fructis
Thermasilk(phasing out)
ORS Creamy Aloe(Phasing out)

Conditioners:
Ojon Hydrating Conditioner (justed started - love this)
Garnier Fructis Fortifying (use for conditioner wash - love)
Avalon Organics Clarifying
Natures Gate Herbal

Protein
Nexxus

Leave Ins
Carols Daughter Black Vanilla Leave In
IC Fantasia Shine Creme Leave In (YUCK- hate this, we not use anymore)

Growth
Vitamins- MSM
Whey Protein Shakes (need to be more consistent with this)
GNC Ultra Nourish Hair (discontinued - makes my stomach hurt!!)
MTG (haven't used in months - try this again after my new relaxer)
Surge (need to more consistent)

SHINE AND MOISTURE
Water mixed with oils, serums, etc.

Relaxer
PHYTO Index II (Dramatic decrease in breakage since using this)

On a daily basis my regimen is pretty simple. I do not use all these products regularly. Use on an as needed basis. I need to be out of bed and out the door in as short a time as possible.

Right now my hair is short as i am essentially starting over after 2 big chops. Wish me luck!!! Everyone here is so committed and has done a fantastic job of turning their hair around. It's truly inspiring to me!!

 

[patient1]

I've never done hairtyping, but my guess is that this is me.

p1

 

[napbella]

Another 4a/4b...

Shampoos
Keracare (love it!)
Suave Milk and Honey
Aveda (just got it)

Conditioner
Keracare
Suave milk and Honey

Protein
Aphogee (jury still out on this)

Leave ins
Cantu (gives me curls I didn't know I had)

Oils
grapeseed
castor
apricot

Growth
WGO
MTG

 

[HoneyDew]

I am a type 4 gal.

 

[SpiritJunkie]

4b chick checkin' in..!!

Shampoo:
Mane and Tale Moisturizing
Pantene Clarifying
Neutrilizing poo (can't remeber the name)

Conditioner:
ORS Replenishing
Salerm Wheat Germ

Reconstructor:
Aphogee Keritin 2 min
Aphogee for Damaged Hair
Roux Mendex (for dry hair)

Co-wash:
Coconut milk mixed w/
Sauve Coconut conditioner
Herbal Essence Hello Hydration

Moisturizer:
QP Mango butter

Leave in:
Neutrogena TM Silk touch Leave in (doubles as moisturizer)
Salerm 21

Oils:
EVOO, Sweet Almond,Refined Coconut Oil, Vitapointe

Growth:
Surge 14 plus

Relaxer:
Silk Elements or ORS (i like Silk better)

Vitamins:
Biotin 3mg/Silica/Hair Nails Skin or Prenatal (take 3 day of eeach)

 

[Sharpened]

Another 4a/4b here.

Shampoo: Whatever samples I have and whenever I want. Does Cetaphil count?

Co-wash/Conditioner: The cheap VO5 or White Rain mixed with whatever comes to mind, like honey and aloe. Does an herbal ACV count as a conditioner?

Moisture: Asha's Mane Attraction, Surge 14 mixed with glycerin, castor and jojoba oils.

Styling: IC Sparklelite clear gel

Vitamins: Biotin 5g, Calcium citrate 800mg, Bamboo 420mg, B-complex, Cod liver and EP oils 1g, Garlic 540mg, and Cayenne taken throughout the day.

 

[Healthb4Length]

Another 4a checking in...

My hair is down with:
Poos:BBD triple silk poo/Proclaim neutralizing poo

Conditioners:
Moisturizing -BBD Stretch
Protein - UBH, ORS MAYO, B's Satin treatment
Heavy Protein Treatment- Aphoghee

Conditioners for CO Washes/PrePoo Treatments:
Hello Hydration

Moisturizers: Elasta QP Mango Butter; Qhemet's Alma heavy cream, Olive Detangling conditioner, Africa's Best hair oil, ORS Carrot Oil

Leave-In: Giovanni's Direct-leavin
Serum: Fantasia's Olive serum

Currently Bunning it up. Will be getting a weave in 2 weeks, will rock weaves, braids and thangs for 2007...I need a break.__________________

 

[HWAY]

I'm a type 4 also.

Ali77, I have UBH conditioner and BBD Stretch also. Do you alternate weeks? What do you apply to your hair after the UBH conditioner?

 

[KeraKrazy]

I'm definately 4b all over (probably 4c)

 

[DreamLife]

4b checking in!

 

[Legend]

Another 4B here!!!

 

[MonaLisa]

I'm 4 a

my shampoos are:

Con(green bottle)
Keracare detangling shampoo
ORS aloe shampoo
AO blue camoille shampoo
NTM shampoo

my conditioners:

Keracare humecto
Paltas conditioner
ORS hair mayonaise
Con nourishing conditioner
NTM daily conditioner

protein treatments:

Motions critical protection repair
Fantasia's Aloe/Vitamin Anti-breakage formula deep penetrating creme moisturizer for extra dry hair and scalp
Aubrey Organics GPB
Aphogee 2 min reconstructor

leave ins:

Africa Best leave in mayonaise
NTM silk touch
Rusk Smoother

moisurizers:

UBH dew mist

For my dry hair:

Vitapointe hairdress creme-I

Serums:

NTM healing shine
John Freida anti frizz

Seal Ends with:

Profective healthy ends or Mango butter

Oils

Kemi Oyl to seal ends

I rotate everything on a weekly basis

That's all I can think of now...

*Why was I clocking to see what you put down...

The purpose of this thread....glad to see it still making the rounds...
is to learn what other 4a/b's (in that realm) or using...maybe we're using similar products...or maybe somebody is using something that we haven't tried yet, but it now piques one's interest.

I noticed that a lot of 4a/b's gravitate toward Aphogee usage...
*I just gave myself the strong treatment Friday night *

 

[MonaLisa]

Since I took the time to read all 27 pages of this post ...I thought I should also respond :

Mona...you are like a talk show host the way you respond to this thread...absolutely wonderful!! I really enjoyed reading it and it was very encouraging to see like-heads who have found success with the staples that I have chosen....Chosen being the key word...to avoid prolonging my PJism..I have decided on these produts for my regimen...So I will be sticking to them only starting July 15th through the end of this year...

Shampoos: CON, Elucence MB

Light Protein Conditioners: Aubrey GPB, Motions CPR

Moisturizing Conditioners: Miss Keys (2 that I mix), Elucence MB

Oils: Jojoba, Coconut, Castor, African Glory Oil (Good mix of yummy hair EO's that I picked up at Whole Foods...I add it for good measure )

Leave In: Kids Organics Shea Butter/Giovanni Direct

Moisturizer: Water+Condish+Oils

Other Products I like that may become staples:
Rasta Mango and Lime Locking Gel
(Great for bunning..leaves hair soft/smooth)
Carols Daugther Healthy Hair Butter & Mimosa Honey

I haven't been keeping up... ....I tried..

I LOVE Kids Organics Shea Butter Detangling Moisturizer...I keep at least two bottles in the stash...

thing is...when I first started out....my hair was not feeling AO GPB...
but I dug some up out the closet during clean out time...had some diluted..and lo and behold..the sucka worked for me on DRY hair..
so I may re-invest in this as a light protein treat.

 

[MonaLisa]

quote=Tayw29]4a/b checking in

Poos:
CON - Green
Pantene relaxed and natural

Conditioners:
Suave Milk & Honey/ Tropical Coconut
V05 Champagne Kiss

Protein -
ORS Mayo
ORS Replenishing

Moisturizers:
NTM daily deep conditioner
Pantene relaxed and natural moisturizer

Oils (sealers):
Jojoba
sweet almond
castor
WGO

Leave-In:
NTM Silk Touch
Infusium 23

Heat Protectant:
Fantasia IC Heat Protectant serum[/quote]

My mouth dropped on the siggy...
Purty hair

Isn't sweet almond oil just the BEST?!!! Love it!

 

[MonaLisa]

First time poster here, although i've been reading this board for over a year. So hello to all!!

I'm a 4B - Although I have yet to see any other 4's with my texture. Thick, unruly, resistant and coarse. In it's natural state my hair does not lay down by applying gel etc. Oh no! My boyfriend says that I have the denses hair he has ever seen. Although it is a pain to manage i love my hair, but I need to work on retaining length, since my hair is dry and breaks easily! Anyhoo, the products i use are:

Shampoos:
Ojon Hydrating Shampoo (just started)
Garnier Fructis
Thermasilk(phasing out)
ORS Creamy Aloe(Phasing out)

Conditioners:
Ojon Hydrating Conditioner (justed started - love this)
Garnier Fructis Fortifying (use for conditioner wash - love)
Avalon Organics Clarifying
Natures Gate Herbal

Protein
Nexxus

Leave Ins
Carols Daughter Black Vanilla Leave In
IC Fantasia Shine Creme Leave In (YUCK- hate this, we not use anymore)

Growth
Vitamins- MSM
Whey Protein Shakes (need to be more consistent with this)
GNC Ultra Nourish Hair (discontinued - makes my stomach hurt!!)
MTG (haven't used in months - try this again after my new relaxer)
Surge (need to more consistent)

SHINE AND MOISTURE
Water mixed with oils, serums, etc.

Relaxer
PHYTO Index II (Dramatic decrease in breakage since using this)

On a daily basis my regimen is pretty simple. I do not use all these products regularly. Use on an as needed basis. I need to be out of bed and out the door in as short a time as possible.

Right now my hair is short as i am essentially starting over after 2 big chops. Wish me luck!!! Everyone here is so committed and has done a fantastic job of turning their hair around. It's truly inspiring to me!!

Wishing you the best of luck and happy hair growing to you!!!!

*phyto is the ish!!!

 

[ProseChild]

when I first started out....my hair was not feeling AO GPB...
but I dug some up out the closet during clean out time...had some diluted..and lo and behold..the sucka worked for me on DRY hair..
so I may re-invest in this as a light protein treat.

I hate when that happens! I wonder how much money I've wasted, by getting rid of products that didn't work - but would've worked later on, had I tried them at a different length. I also hate when a beloved product stops working for me! So I love the products I use dearly, until I have to start using something else.

My current regimen:
NTM Poo or diluted CON (red label)
alternate Humectress or Keraphix as deep condition
NTM Silk Touch leave-in
Optimum Oil Therapy

 

[MonaLisa]

Another 4a/4b here.

Shampoo: Whatever samples I have and whenever I want. Does Cetaphil count?

Co-wash/Conditioner: The cheap VO5 or White Rain mixed with whatever comes to mind, like honey and aloe. Does an herbal ACV count as a conditioner?

Moisture: Asha's Mane Attraction, Surge 14 mixed with glycerin, castor and jojoba oils.

Styling: IC Sparklelite clear gel

Vitamins: Biotin 5g, Calcium citrate 800mg, Bamboo 420mg, B-complex, Cod liver and EP oils 1g, Garlic 540mg, and Cayenne taken throughout the day.

....I'm sitting here...like...ain't Cetaphil a facial cleanser?!!

Whatever works for you hair queen, do you...

 

[MonaLisa]

I hate when that happens! I wonder how much money I've wasted, by getting rid of products that didn't work - but would've worked later on, had I tried them at a different length. I also hate when a beloved product stops working for me! So I love the products I use dearly, until I have to start using something else.

My current regimen:
NTM Poo or diluted CON (red label)
alternate Humectress or Keraphix as deep condition
NTM Silk Touch leave-in
Optimum Oil Therapy

PC, are you on the Keep It Simple Sister challenge? Cause man, you've got the simple regimen down pat!

 

[Tayw29]

Thanks Mona

 

[Sharpened]

....I'm sitting here...like...ain't Cetaphil a facial cleanser?!!

Whatever works for you hair queen, do you...

Yup yup, it is, but scope out the ingredients--it is like a co-wash with a bit of SLS thrown in. Check out this thread.

 

[MzOptimistic]

*Why was I clocking to see what you put down...

The purpose of this thread....glad to see it still making the rounds...
is to learn what other 4a/b's (in that realm) or using...maybe we're using similar products...or maybe somebody is using something that we haven't tried yet, but it now piques one's interest.

I noticed that a lot of 4a/b's gravitate toward Aphogee usage...
*I just gave myself the strong treatment Friday night *

Mona, I'm scared of the strong treatment. I wanna try it sooooo bad