Could we have an updated-4a/b roll call? Apologies...

MonaLisa

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if there has been a thread on this prior (hard to do a search on).

I just wanted to ask this because, although I have some hair idols...their hair isn't that close to mine (with the exception of the ultimate 4a/b idol AJamerican Diva) -- until I thoroughly examined Babygurl's album and was like wow...I can relate to her hair...and she has really inspired me in terms of me making progress as well. I also check mrslee..cause the things her hair likes, mine does as well.

I figure we can learn from each other...I know...things respond differently sometimes to different heads...but then again...sometimes they don't!

I'll start it off...I'm 4a/b...sometimes...it gets more A than b...but dat b is definitely up in there...

My hair is down with:
Poos: Keracare Detangling/CON/NTM

Conditioners:
Moisturizing - Keracare Humecto (tub); NTM; (contemplating Salerm WG Mask based on mrslee's continued results)

Protein - ManeNTail/Aubrey Organics GPB/UBH
Heavy Protein Treatment- Aphoghee (decided to stick with it, it works, smell doesn't bother me at all)

Conditioners for CO Washes/PrePoo Treatments: Suave Milk & Honey, Suave Humectant, White Rain, VO5

Moisturizers: Elasta QP Mango Butter; Surge Woojee; BB Castor Oil and Aloe;
Coconut Softee (thanks to Kitchentician); WGO

Leave-In: NTM Silk Touch

Serum: NTM

I'll Surge when I can remember. Will slap castor oil, coconut oil, profective healthy ends or one of my moisturizers on to protect my ends.

Currently rocking a quick weave as protective style for the winter, if not wearing my own hair out.
 
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Checking in :wave:

I am a 4a/b girl

Shampoos:
Affirm

Conditioners:
Suave Humectant

Relaxer:
Soft and Beautiful no-lye

My hair loves Elasta QP mango butter, Africa's Best Olive and Clove oil...and yes...At One hair grease!! I've been surging for 2 weeks, once or twice daily, but haven't noticed any marked improvement.

I usually keep my hair in low ponytail with fake bun cover.
 
Another 4a/b checking in.

- Motions Oil Moisture Regular Relaxer
- Rotating Kenra, Nexxus and NTM shampoos and Conditioners
- Aubrey's GPB, Keraphix and Emergencee for proteins
- NTM Silk Touch and Giovanni Direct leave ins
- Cantu Shea Butter Daily Moisturizer
- Evoo, Wheat Germ, Castor, Shea Butter and Coconut oils for sealing ends and pre shampoo treatments.
 
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Hey MonaLisa... 4a (I guess) checkin' in:

My hair is down with...

Shampoos:
Creme of Nature

Conditioners:
Leave-in - Motions Nourish and Salerm21
Conditoner wash - Suave Professionals Humectant
Moisturizing - LeKair Cholesterol Plus mixed with Hot 6 Oil
Light Protein - Elasta QP Breakage Contol Serum
Heavy Protein Treatment- never done one so N/A

Moisturizers:
Water, Motions Salon Herbals Oil Sheen Spray, Wild Growth Hair Oil, EVOO, S-Curl
 
Hi Mona,
You could be my hair body. I was going to say twin but even though you say your hair is thin , mine is even thinner.
My hair also loves
- Aphogee and UBH
-I use better braids cause I'm wearing braids
-motions hair lotion
-Suave humectant for co washes
Now you make me want to try that keracare humecto for moisture because your hair looks nice and shiny and moist.
 
Hey Ladies!

@Pooh - looking good...and ur lucky that you haven't needed a heavy protein treatment. Ms. Howse put me on to Aphoghee and it's helped me tremendously.
CON...yup! That's definitely been a staple.

I'm also noting so far the use of Suave Humectant for CO Washes.

@ SimplyCee - Feeling you on the NTM Silk Touch Leave In. NTM has been my friend! I'm also a believer now in Aubrey GPB - it's definitely a staple now.

@ Sexy Cee - I'm gonna utilize the Better Braids UnBraid Spray in the future when taking out braids/weave. Thanks much for the compliment as well!:grin:
My Humecto/NTM rotation has proven successful for me so I'm sticking with it.
 
4B checking in.

Here are my faves for each category:

Shampoos: Nexxus Therappe
NTM

Conditioners: Nexxus Humectress
Biolage Ultra Hydrating Balm

Proteins: Aphogee
Motions CPR

Leave-Ins: Salerm 21 (moisturizing)
Tigi Ego Boost (protein)

Moisturizers: Profectiv Break-Free
Elasta QP Mango Butter

Serum: NTM

Other: SURGE!
 
Hey @ Dreems! Still loving your hair from afar! And it looks good close up too!;)

See...I'm noticing some similarities in product usage already....I'll keep peeping future responses to see if it keeps up...

:grin:
 
4b here! :wave:

My hair likes:

Poo - Suave, MyHoneychild, Elucence, Kenra,KeraSilk, Nexxus
Cond - same brand as the poos
leave-in - Fantasia IC w/Aloe and Myhoneychild Aloe Vera Conditioner.
Moistuizers - SCurl, Myhoneychild - guava hair balm, my hair likes a type 4 cream, honey hair creme, Elasta QP mango butter

:) :) :)
 
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Hello,

4b checking in. I am still tweeking my regimen trying to find products that my hair likes. I'm also working on trying to find protective styles where I don't look like a wreck. So far I use:

Shampoos:

Nexxus Therappe & Botanoil

Conditioners:

Nexxus Humectress & Keraphix

Reconstructors:

Nexxus Emergencee

Leave In:
Salerm

I also use Nexxus Botanic oil and Redken Glass
 
Hi,

4/a

Shampoo

Sebastian Cello
Eluence
Keracare
K-Pak

Conditoners

2+1 Sebastian (Reconstructor)
Eluence (Moisturizing)
Kercare (Mositurizing)
K-Pak ( Heavey Protien)
Miss Keys (Deep Moisturizing)
UBH (Moisturizing - phasing this out)
GBP ( Lite Protien)

Leave In

Surge
Salerm 21
UBH

:lachen:
 
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Mona you are so silly! :lol: I guess Ill check in!

I'm 4a/b...My 4b is mostly in the crown area.

My hair likes:
Poos: QP Creme Conditioning Shampoo (weekly), QP Scalp Stimualting Shampoo (when I want a tingly scalp treatment), QP Neutralizing Shampoo (when relaxing and to clarify)

Conditioners:
Moisturizing - Humectress, Capilo Milk and Honey Conditioner

Protein - Elasta Qp Breakage Control Serum (bi-weekly), Affirm 5n1 (after my relaxers)
Heavy Protein Treatment- Aphoghee (smell doesn't bother me)

Conditioners for CO Washes: Suave Milk & Honey

Moisturizers: Elasta QP Mango Butter, S-Curl No Drip, Carols Daughter Hair Milk, QP Recovery, Motions Light Oil Moisturizer (every blue moon, I LOVE the smell)

Leave-In: QP Recovery, QP H-two, Humectress

Oils: Coconut and EVOO

Serum: Biosilk Silk Therapy (for flat-ironing)

Im a daily bun wearer and I am sure to wash AND deep condition every 3-4 days. I only flat-iron for progress pictures or very special occassions (usually 3-5 times a year). Im a self-relaxer
 
Hi 4A/B, mostly B on the edges. These products seem to be working pretty good for my hair.

SHampoo:
Keracare 1st Lather Shampoo
Keracare Hydrating Detangling Shampoo

Conditioner: Elucence, Keracare Humecto

Moisturizers/Oils: old school Ultra sheen, Kemi Oil, Mango Butter

Leave In: Elasta QP recovery, Elasta QP H two, Kera Care Leave In, Elasta QP Silk for flat ironing.
 
4b here :wave:

Shampoo:
Nexxus Botanoil Shampoo

Conditioners:
Nexxus Humectress Mosturizing Conditioner
Nexxus Headress Leave-in Conditioner
Biolage Leave-in Hair Tonic
Nexxus Keraphix Reconstructer

Moisturizers:
Constant Care for Ends
Water

Oils:
Aveda Anti-Humectant Pomade
Keracare Essential Oil
Coconut oil
Olive oil
Jojoba oil
Essential oils (lavender, ylang ylang, rosemary, tea tree, peppermint)
 
Hey Mona!! :wave:

Shampoos

M/T
Biolage Fortifying

Conditioners

Ultra Hydrating Biolage
M/T
NTM
Salerm Wheat Germ Mask
GPB

Serums

CHI

Leave In

Lacio Lacio
Surge

Oils

Jojoba
Castor
Rosemary
Ylang Ylang

Clarify with Suave brand
 
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Aiiight...my lovely 4a/b's are coming out of the woodwork! Luv it!:D


@Tigerlily - *waving* another check next to Mango Butter on this list! We must be keeping this product on the shelves! Love me some Suave too!

@ Sunkissed - a major Nexxus user among us! hmmmm..lol...You seem to have a good simplified regimen thus far...keep tweaking to find what is really working for you and stick with it. Keep us posted. Wow..and ur praying for D'Angelo. *Brown Sugar babeeeeeee....*

@ Star - lol at u phasing out the UBH Conditioner while I'm phasing it back into my regimen as a conditioner. r u using the Dew as a leave-in??

@ BabyGurl :notworthy - my new hair inspiration! Oh Snaps! The Aphoghee smell doesn't bother u either?!!! I'm not alone! LOL. See...You and Dana are gonna make me return to my Cathy Howse path of washing and conditioning my hair every 3-4 days again (now that I'm thinking about it...my hair was thriving when I did do it...hmmmm)

@ KBA - Down with the Keracare! AIIIIGHT!!! Annnnnddd another checkmark next to Mango Butter!

@ Isis - another big time Nexxus user among us! Hmmm...it's definitely working for you girl! ur hair is gorgeous and THICK! Good Lawd! I don't know why I don't note water as a moisturizer...considering it's what I primarily drink! Lawd knows it's the best moisturizer there is! Anddd...I'm gonna start eating egg whites! :grin:

@mrslee - HUG! My fellow NTM/MNT user! U do know I am monitoring this Salerm Wheat Germ Mask phase ur going through...*cough* awaiting further results...lol.
 
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MonaLisa said:
Hey Ladies!

@Pooh - looking good...and ur lucky that you haven't needed a heavy protein treatment. Ms. Howse put me on to Aphoghee and it's helped me tremendously.
CON...yup! That's definitely been a staple.

I'm also noting so far the use of Suave Humectant for CO Washes.
@Mona - I've been thinking about trying Aphogee but I'm still unsure whether I really need a heavy protein treatment or not. I just ran out of my Elasta QP BCS and I don't think I'll be doing anymore protein treatments from now on. My hair feels the same after a protein treatment as with a conditioner treatment with LeKair w/ H6O. :)
 
Poohbear said:
@Mona - I've been thinking about trying Aphogee but I'm still unsure whether I really need a heavy protein treatment or not. I just ran out of my Elasta QP BCS and I don't think I'll be doing anymore protein treatments from now on. My hair feels the same after a protein treatment as with a conditioner treatment with LeKair w/ H6O. :)

Then you should definitely stick with what is working for you. Everybody doesn't need or require a heavier protein treatment. Pooh knows what works for Pooh's head...especially as your transitioning.:grin:
 
MonaLisa said:
Then you should definitely stick with what is working for you. Everybody doesn't need or require a heavier protein treatment. Pooh knows what works for Pooh's head...especially as your transitioning.:grin:

You're so silly, girl! :lol: I'm still learning as I go... happy hair growing! :weird:
 
Another 4A/B checking in :wave:

Since proper hair care is still new to me, I'm still trying to figure out what works with my hair.

Shampoo:
Elasta QP Creme Conditioning
Elasta QP Scalp Stimulating (to clarify)
NTM

Conditions:
Nexxus Humectress
NTM
Keracare Humecto (I've tried it once and I really like it)

Leave In:
Nexxus Headress
NTM

Daily Moisturizers:
Scalp: Surge, Suave Conditioner, Castor Oil, Peppermint, Jojoba Oil
Hair: Elasta QP Mango Butter & Profectiv Break Free
 
Wow thanks for this thread.....I'm making a list of items to get......its getting to big, but thats OK.

Question , how are you guys using your moisturizers and/or oils........ie do you use both, one for your ends and one for the roots, one for the hair, daily or when needed, pre shampoo...I'm lost. I know it sounds stupid for a almost 30 yr old, but I don't know what and how to use it?
 
senimoni said:
Wow thanks for this thread.....I'm making a list of items to get......its getting to big, but thats OK.

Question , how are you guys using your moisturizers and/or oils........ie do you use both, one for your ends and one for the roots, one for the hair, daily or when needed, pre shampoo...I'm lost. I know it sounds stupid for a almost 30 yr old, but I don't know what and how to use it?

@natalied - I see ur down with the NTM, Humecto and Mango Butter! Nice, nice!
The 4a/b's seem to be a lover of the Suave cons...nice.

@ Senimoni - Welcome aboard! And no question is stupid especially when ur learning what to do. Okay?! I'm sure the ladies will give there input regarding your question.

I use my moisturizers primarily daily, I use my oils sometimes every two days or when I think my hair needs them. Most importantly...I make sure them ends are moisturized if nothing else. When I moisturize...I moisturize my whole head.
 
Hey Mona :wave:

4a/b checking in!!

My hair loves the following

Shampoos/Conditioners:
MNT: Poo and Cond
Creme of Nature Poo (alternate)
Breakthru Poo (alternate)
LeKair Cholesterol Conditioner

Oils
Wild Growth Oil
Jojoba Oil (100%)

Other
Surge
Vitale Relaxer

That's about all I'm using right now!! I find that for me, less is best :)
 
SouthernGirl said:
Hey Mona :wave:

4a/b checking in!!

My hair loves the following

Shampoos/Conditioners:
MNT: Poo and Cond
Creme of Nature Poo (alternate)
Breakthru Poo (alternate)
LeKair Cholesterol Conditioner

Oils
Wild Growth Oil
Jojoba Oil (100%)

Other
Surge
Vitale Relaxer

That's about all I'm using right now!! I find that for me, less is best :)


HEYYYYYYYYYY CHICA! MUAAAAAAAAH! AND HUGS! SG's regime is definitely working...so urs is a if it ain't broke...lol...
 
Hi --- I am a 4b checking in

KENRA Moisturizing Shampoo
KENRA Moisturizing Conditioner
Pantene Instant Conditioner / Detangler - Leave In
REBOUND Instant Moisturizer

AVEDA Anti Humectant Pomade
AVEDA Hang Straight----After week 5 of Relaxer Stretch
DOO GRO Hair Polish Shine Mist
 
ebony88 said:
Hi --- I am a 4b checking in

KENRA Moisturizing Shampoo
KENRA Moisturizing Conditioner
Pantene Instant Conditioner / Detangler - Leave In
REBOUND Instant Moisturizer

AVEDA Anti Humectant Pomade
AVEDA Hang Straight----After week 5 of Relaxer Stretch
DOO GRO Hair Polish Shine Mist

HI Ebony,

Can you share how you use the AVEDA Hang Straight? What does it do for your hair?
 
I'm a 4a/b with fine hair. I think distinguishing between fine or coarse texture is helpful.

What I use currently:
Shampoo: Creme of Nature Ultra Moisturizing
NTM

Moisturizing Conditioner: almost ANY Dominican Conditioner my hair loves (Nacidit avocado, Henna Queen Milk & Honey, Rysell tropical coconut, Miss Keys etc.)
Keracare Humecto
NTM Daily Conditioner
Loreal Mega Moisture therapy
Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose

Protein Conditioners: Aubrey Organics GPB
Lafier Proteinol
Aphogee(very rarely used)

Leave-in: Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Moisture Mist
Biolage Leave-in Tonic
NTM silk touch

Daily moisture/finishing producs: oils (jojoba, wildgrowth, safflower)
Hollywood beauty castor oil treatment
Motions Salon Herbals Mango Butter
ORS Jojoba oil
John Freida's Dream curls (for my braid-outs)
 
4b (I think)

Shampoos:
CON
NTM

Conditioners:
Nexxus Humectress
Keracare Humecto
NTM Hair Mask

Protein:
Aphogee (smell doesn't bother me)
Nexxus Emergencee
Aubrey GPB
Nexxus Keraphix
Mane N Tail (both this for Cathy Howse conditioner mixture and breakage has slowed down tremendously)

Leave In:
NTM

Serum:
NTM

Moisturisers:
Jojoba Oil
Coconut OIl
Paul Mitchell's Foaming Pommade
 
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