Can I ask a DUMB question

Ask them if the would rather you look good during the day or while you are both sleeping? I would say go kick rocks in response.
 
@Growingmyhairlong Only way that can be good for your hair is if you're wearing a weave so your hair is protected underneath. I have always slept with an Aunt Jemima scarf before I UPGRADED to plastic caps+scarf, then caps alone, then Saran Wrap.

I don't think guys care that much. Unless they aren't really into you and are just living a fantasy of being with some Barbie whose hair is flowing. They may say it out loud to their friends that they like hair to be just so when they're with their girl, but unless y'all are making a movie, trust me, they aren't paying attention to your head.
 
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I have two questions.

1. Is it possible to make your individual hair strands thicker or is that genetics?

2. Does your hair really get used to products if you use the same ones all the time?
 
Ask them if the would rather you look good during the day or while you are both sleeping? I would say go kick rocks in response.

:clapping: I've gone through this with my s.o. a few times. And though it's nice to have my hair out for bed it's also a hassle for me, no matter if it's straight or curly, the next day (and I'm pretty sure over time it will get worse). Now I try and keep my bonnet/scarf/head sock and whatever else I need right next to the bed so once our... activities.... are over I can just do my hair one time. Is he in love of the idea of looking over and seeing me look like the Dad from "The night before Christmas"? Not really. But If I don't do what I need to do to protect my hair then it'll get damaged and the health, length, and all the other things we BOTH love about my hair will deteriorate. Then neither of us would be happy with my hair's appearance. If he doesn't understand that then it may be time to reevaluate some things.
 
Okay dumb questions. Does anyone sleep without wrapping their hair up at night and still have it look good the next day? What do you do and how do you style it the next day. I know I was talking to my friend and the subject was about men not liking the scarf and bonnet look at night. So if you chose not to wrap it up can you still have long beautiful hair and use other options without a scarf and bonnet?

My cousin does, she's a straightened natural. She was telling us that she didn't wear scarves or bonnets anymore cause they never stayed on, she just uses a satin pillow case. Her hair looks ok. She doesnt flat iron it herself, she doesnt wrap it. It just looks nice. She's been natural for 2 years. And she is bsb.

My mom said she has good hair, and I hate that phrase but if your hair stays straight over night you have good hair. But we didn't ask her how it stays straight.
 
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Ok ladies dumb question lol.1. When deep conditioning and just regular conditioning is it wise to rinse it out with cold or cool water. 2. if you dont, what happend? I know cool water closes your cuticles but can't a leave in do that ? Smh Soo confused.
 
Ok ladies dumb question lol.1. When deep conditioning and just regular conditioning is it wise to rinse it out with cold or cool water. 2. if you dont, what happend? I know cool water closes your cuticles but can't a leave in do that ? Smh Soo confused.

Prettycoach
1) It isn't wise or unwise to since conditioner out with cold water. It's up to you really, what feels comfortable to you. Some people like to leave some conditioner on their hair so use cold water. I personally find no benefit in using cold water. Not only would I be guaranteed a headache but I'd also end up with hard hair coz my hair just doesn't like a coating of stuff that is "extra". I say "extra" coz using lukewarm water doesn't strip my hair but leaves it with just the right amount of conditioning I need for soft hair--which is why I don't find the need to moisturize after it. If I used cold water, I feel I'd leave behind more coating than necessary and lead to gummy hair. I also think I'd end up with dull hair. There was a discussion about this a while back and some folks reported having hard hair after rinsing with cold water.

2) I have never used cold water except when I was in boarding school and hadn't yet bought an immersion heater to heat up the cold water that was the norm in our bathrooms. I ALWAYS use lukewarm water and my hair does well with this. As I've shared before, washing my hair is the highlight of my hair journey and my twists are so much more fun to work on after a wash because my hair is so soft and the strands seperate with ease. (The twists below had been in for weeks but look at how they unravel so easily. I think if I used cold water, the strands would be "glued" together:
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So if you don't use cold water, you may just be surprised that nothing scary will happen. You may actually realize you prefer it.

COLD WATER DOES NOT CLOSE CUTICLES. What closes cuticles is a low pH, not a low temperature. If you want to close your hair cuticles, do a final rinse with an ACV solution. Even my ACV solution is lukewarm since temperature doesn't make a difference to the cuticles. No need freezing your head for no reason when cold water isn't bringing anything wonderful to the equation.
 
Nonie said:
Prettycoach
1) It isn't wise or unwise to since conditioner out with cold water. It's up to you really, what feels comfortable to you. Some people like to leave some conditioner on their hair so use cold water. I personally find no benefit in using cold water. Not only would I be guaranteed a headache but I'd also end up with hard hair coz my hair just doesn't like a coating of stuff that is "extra". I say "extra" coz using lukewarm water doesn't strip my hair but leaves it with just the right amount of conditioning I need for soft hair--which is why I don't find the need to moisturize after it. If I used cold water, I feel I'd leave behind more coating than necessary and lead to gummy hair. I also think I'd end up with dull hair. There was a discussion about this a while back and some folks reported having hard hair after rinsing with cold water.

2) I have never used cold water except when I was in boarding school and hadn't yet bought an immersion heater to heat up the cold water that was the norm in our bathrooms. I ALWAYS use lukewarm water and my hair does well with this. As I've shared before, washing my hair is the highlight of my hair journey and my twists are so much more fun to work on after a wash because my hair is so soft and the strands seperate with ease. (The twists below had been in for weeks but look at how they unravel so easily. I think if I used cold water, the strands would be "glued" together:

So if you don't use cold water, you may just be surprised that nothing scary will happen. You may actually realize you prefer it.

COLD WATER DOES NOT CLOSE CUTICLES. What closes cuticles is a low pH, not a low temperature. If you want to close your hair cuticles, do a final rinse with an ACV solution. Even my ACV solution is lukewarm since temperature doesn't make a difference to the cuticles. No need freezing your head for no reason when cold water isn't bringing anything wonderful to the equation.

Thank you sooo much. Last question what is an ACV solution? My stylist back in the day used to rinse my conditioner out with cold water and I always thought it closed the cuticle. Sheesh. I have been walking around with cold head for a while. Helps my life out sooo much
 
Thank you sooo much. Last question what is an ACV solution? My stylist back in the day used to rinse my conditioner out with cold water and I always thought it closed the cuticle. Sheesh. I have been walking around with cold head for a while. Helps my life out sooo much

Prettycoach ACV solution = a solution of water and apple cider vinegar.

Here are some threads on this as a rinse:
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=19324

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=13255

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=148617

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=565569

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=627357

One of my favorite discussions on ACV was when people decided to get as crazy as someone I know and started dunking their heads in ACV solutions and loving it. :lol: http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=566147
 
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Nonie said:
Prettycoach
1) It isn't wise or unwise to since conditioner out with cold water. It's up to you really, what feels comfortable to you. Some people like to leave some conditioner on their hair so use cold water. I personally find no benefit in using cold water. Not only would I be guaranteed a headache but I'd also end up with hard hair coz my hair just doesn't like a coating of stuff that is "extra". I say "extra" coz using lukewarm water doesn't strip my hair but leaves it with just the right amount of conditioning I need for soft hair--which is why I don't find the need to moisturize after it. If I used cold water, I feel I'd leave behind more coating than necessary and lead to gummy hair. I also think I'd end up with dull hair. There was a discussion about this a while back and some folks reported having hard hair after rinsing with cold water.

2) I have never used cold water except when I was in boarding school and hadn't yet bought an immersion heater to heat up the cold water that was the norm in our bathrooms. I ALWAYS use lukewarm water and my hair does well with this. As I've shared before, washing my hair is the highlight of my hair journey and my twists are so much more fun to work on after a wash because my hair is so soft and the strands seperate with ease. (The twists below had been in for weeks but look at how they unravel so easily. I think if I used cold water, the strands would be "glued" together:

So if you don't use cold water, you may just be surprised that nothing scary will happen. You may actually realize you prefer it.

COLD WATER DOES NOT CLOSE CUTICLES. What closes cuticles is a low pH, not a low temperature. If you want to close your hair cuticles, do a final rinse with an ACV solution. Even my ACV solution is lukewarm since temperature doesn't make a difference to the cuticles. No need freezing your head for no reason when cold water isn't bringing anything wonderful to the equation.

Great information! I am usually doing some gymnastics in the shower to rinse my hair in cold as I can stand it water while trying to keep the cool water and my cold wet hair from touching my body...LOL. Most times I give up and use warm water cause I can't stand it!
 
Nonie said:
Carmelella, IIRC it's where you first moisturize your hair with a Liquid product. Then you seal that in with an Oil. And then you follow that with a Creamy product. Hence L O C.

Never done it, so can't tell you anything more about it.

I like the sound of this. I might have to try it but by using water as the liquid product.
 
Nonie. THANKS!! I think I've been doing a LCO method. Just bought some new products from a LHCF member ( for a steal!!! Omg! :yay: ) so I'll try it out now and do a twist out since I don't have any electricity :nono:
 
how do you take care of your hair (m&s) under wigs without overdoing it (manipulating your hair everyday)

sckri23 I haven't worn wigs but I have worn hats and wraps which are more or less the same. I don't M&S though, but if I did, I would not need to do it more than on wash day. Why would anyone? I'd wash, moisturize/seal, put hair in plaits, then put on a wig cap (I prefer Saran wrap on bare hair) then put on wig. At night, take wig off, tie a satin scarf, go to bed. In the AM put wig cap on and wig...and so on.

IMO if you need to moisturize your hair daily, then something isn't right. That'd be like layering on lotion over your body over and over without taking a bath in between. Hair can only absorb so much moisture then the rest sit on there...unless it's evaporating--which I don't see happening under a wig. So why would one need to keep slathering on stuff?

When I wear a scarf, I simply do the GHE (no product baggying). I could go a whole week and my hair feels like butter from all the moisture infusion baggying does.

Even for people with porous hair, when hair isn't exposed to the air, I don't see how it'd dry once you moisturize and then cover it. So IMO wigging is a low mani method.
 
I like the sound of this. I might have to try it but by using water as the liquid product.


This is the exact method (L.O.C. method - came about by our very own @Chicoro) I use and I find that it works really well and keeps my hair moisturized all day. Interestingly enough, I do my medium-sized twist-outs using this method as well but I add the last Fantasia IC gel as my last ingredient and I love how they look - so full, fluffy and yet defined:yep:.
 
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@sckri23 I haven't worn wigs but I have worn hats and wraps which are more or less the same. I don't M&S though, but if I did, I would not need to do it more than on wash day. Why would anyone? I'd wash, moisturize/seal, put hair in plaits, then put on a wig cap (I prefer Saran wrap on bare hair) then put on wig. At night, take wig off, tie a satin scarf, go to bed. In the AM put wig cap on and wig...and so on.

IMO if you need to moisturize your hair daily, then something isn't right. That'd be like layering on lotion over your body over and over without taking a bath in between. Hair can only absorb so much moisture then the rest sit on there...unless it's evaporating--which I don't see happening under a wig. So why would one need to keep slathering on stuff?

When I wear a scarf, I simply do the GHE (no product baggying). I could go a whole week and my hair feels like butter from all the moisture infusion baggying does.

Even for people with porous hair, when hair isn't exposed to the air, I don't see how it'd dry once you moisturize and then cover it. So IMO wigging is a low mani method.

ITA - I must admit that since I stopped moisturizing and sealing my hair on a daily basis, my hair stopped the incessant splitting and the formation of single strand knots and now I am happy with it like I haven't been in a long time. Now I moisturize it maybe twice a week at best and it is responding much better to this new switch in technique.

I do as little to my hair as possible now and I am being rewarded for it. If anyone remembers I had a BC in January and another one in April because of those pesky hair problems and now with more love via less manipulation, my hair is doing a lot better.

I need to upload the pics so you can see where it has come from to now, even with a fresh hair cut 4 days ago. By the way I am trimming my hair around the Moroccan lunar system for thickness and after about a year of that, I will start to trim it for strength and length alternately.

The first 2 pics are from April's haircut this year and the last ones are from 4 days ago:
 

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I usually don't moisturize much I just use a daily spray but when I got my wig today I was scared the spray wouldnt be enough idk why
 
Dumb question from me:

Ladies who have done BKT or BKT alternatives, when they say not to manipulate you hair for how ever long afterwards (no hair ties, pushing behind the ear, etc) what do you do with your hair when you sleep? I can't imagine just leaving it all loose.

Thx.
 
My dumb question for today. Since coconut oil is known to penetrate the hair shaft can spraying my hair with coconut oil mixed with water give me the same benefits? Or does it make it less effective?
 
What is a hair product with a base? Made from/with a base, what does that mean??? TIA.

wheezy807 not sure if this is the context in which you've seen it used, but a base is the opposite of an acid. Acidic products are better for your hair because they close the cuticle and leave strands smooth and therefore less likely to tangle. So my guess is a product with a base or made from a base is one that is not acidic. Relaxers are made from a base (Lye aka sodium hydroxide is a base).
 
My dumb question for today. Since coconut oil is known to penetrate the hair shaft can spraying my hair with coconut oil mixed with water give me the same benefits? Or does it make it less effective?

Growingmyhairlong, no idea, but I wouldn't. I use coconut oil on my body as a moisturizer and I know if I applied it to damp skin I'd have dry ashy skin in minutes. I do better to dry my skin off first and then apply it. Water-based moisturizers I find lead to drier skin on me--which is why I no longer do lotions. I also think you'd be "diluting" the moisturizer. I say, let your water moisture come from conditioning during your wash then airdry and apply coconut oil. That's what I'd do anyway.
 
Babygrowth said:
I have two questions.

1. Is it possible to make your individual hair strands thicker or is that genetics?

2. Does your hair really get used to products if you use the same ones all the time?

1. Genetics. You can take vitamins that may make it a little thicker from added nutrients, but your follicle size won't change so it will always be the same.

2. No. Your hair is dead and its not like the inside of your body. I can't just get used to something. But products can stop working if formulas are changed or if your hair improves and no longer needs the product or if your hair needs something more (like protein) making the product you use seen like its just not working.
 
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