Can I ask a DUMB question

Dizz, the only other thing I could think of is since Roux PC is supposed not only to have humectants that add moisture but also be acidic to close cuticle as well as products that coat to protect and add shine, you adding conditioner probably just added weight that was not really doing anything and maybe weighed the hair down. A breakdown of PC's ingredients and what they do just makes me think it's one of those things that's just perfect on its own: http://www.hairliciousinc.com/2008/09/porosity-control-conditioner-101.html

When I say "use a product as directed" I mean, if it doesn't say "follow with conditioner" then don't. Hair that is moisturized, "sealed" (closed cuticle) and coated, doesn't really need anymore stuff to weigh it down. It'd probably be like adding layers of sticky gunk. And also adding something to already "finished" hair, and then rinsing might be you washing off some of the PC too, coz who knows whether your conditioner didn't grab onto some of the compounds in PC and form something washable that just went down the drain taking with it the benefits you'd just added a few minutes ago.

I truly believe in keeping things simple. Trying to be clever and adding your own twist doesn't always end well.
 
Should I straighten and attempt to use a curling iron (haven't used one in 2 years) on my hair for a day and evening in Dallas, or just hope for the best with a braidout?

KThx.
 
LadyRaider said:
Should I straighten and attempt to use a curling iron (haven't used one in 2 years) on my hair for a day and evening in Dallas, or just hope for the best with a braidout?

KThx.
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LadyRaider, depends on the look you're going for and how much heat you're comfortable with. Whatever style you do, I'd have an updo alternative for the night in case the hair does not hold up all day.

I never wear my hair down coz it'd not stay down (Why should it when it can strike a different pose with movement of the wind, seems to be the attitude it holds), so I always wear an updo, so curling irons aren't really something I'd consider using. Even when I want an updo that looks like it's made of coils, I just use pins and my fingers. This style can go from day to night, for example:
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Thank you Nonie. That style is beautiful! And thank you so much for your input. I really needed it. I don't know why this weekend and my hair is vexing me over several threads, but it is!

The look I'm going for? I just don't want to look horrid like I did the last time I was with the "OU cheerleader" and "Miss Black OU" cousins! Sigh! I'd post the pic from 2008 but I don't want to scare anyone. At least I'm 60lbs lighter than I was then!
 
Can a "rinse" harm hair? I gotta rinse (red) a few weeks ago and now my hair is shedding like crazy. I know shedding is normal but I use to only shed a few strands now I am shedding more than I ever have before. There is also some broken strands. Could it be cause of the change in weather? I am wondering if I shed this much last summer and I just dont remember.
 
If i use an oil moisturiser (i'm using Elasta QP Oil Moisturiser in the bottle) do i still need to seal with an oil. I'm thinking product overlaod.

I have just used it to moisturise my damp hair then i put in large braids to airdry. I did put a little castor oil on my edges and ends but was wondering if i really needed to seal ALL of my hair.
 
Bublin, I think you're right. It'd be product overload. The reason people seal is to prevent moisture loss. Oil is a sealant, that's why it's added to lotions because water alone would not stay on skin. So IMO you do not need to slather on more oil. (The thought makes me feel like going to take a shower. :lol: I can't stand product on my hair so the idea of layers of oil :barf: :giggle: )
 
Is there a way to lighten hair besides lifting the natural color with bleach? I've seen the henna threads, but I don't want red hair. I'm looking into a like a deep honey brown something like that. I don't want permanent, or semi-permanent. I'm assuming a rinse wouldnt work? I'd like something natural. My hair is black I guess...lol! T.I.A
 
AuNaturalMaMa said:
Is there a way to lighten hair besides lifting the natural color with bleach? I've seen the henna threads, but I don't want red hair. I'm looking into a like a deep honey brown something like that. I don't want permanent, or semi-permanent. I'm assuming a rinse wouldnt work? I'd like something natural. My hair is black I guess...lol! T.I.A
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Lightening hair any shade is permanent. Temporary color only coats the hair with color, but it doesn't lighten it. Depending on how dark or light your hair is, you may be able to see the color in the sun, but it won't be dynamic unless you do a process which lightens your color a little.
 
greenandchic said:
Lightening hair any shade is permanent. Temporary color only coats the hair with color, but it doesn't lighten it. Depending on how dark or light your hair is, you may be able to see the color in the sun, but it won't be dynamic unless you do a process which lightens your color a little.
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I meant to say "I don't want like a permanent box color,salon color, thats done with bleach I want it it be natural lightening but permanent."
 
AuNaturalMaMa said:
I meant to say "I don't want like a permanent box color,salon color, thats done with bleach I want it it be natural lightening but permanent."
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The only "natural lightening" I've tried in the past is with lemon juice and honey. It can be drying and unpredictable though. I'm curious about what others have to say on the subject now!
 
greenandchic said:
The only "natural lightening" I've tried in the past is with lemon juice and honey. It can be drying and unpredictable though. I'm curious about what others have to say on the subject now!
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greenandchic

How'd that work for you? And signifigant damage that couldn't be corrected? I saw the older threads. About the honey and sun-in. The results outside this forum were mostly on brunettes...
 
AuNaturalMaMa said:
greenandchic

How'd that work for you? And signifigant damage that couldn't be corrected? I saw the older threads. About the honey and sun-in. The results outside this forum were mostly on brunettes...
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It did lighten my hair, but the results are hard to control since you are not in front of a mirror watching an active product lightening your hair. You basically have to use it the sun such as products like such as Sun In. You can inadvertently over process your hair. Once its lightened more than you want, it obviously cant be reversed. Protein treatments and deep conditioning should not be ignored (and I did that at the time).
 
I know this might be dumb, but how do you cowash? Do you wet your hair then add the condish or do you add the condish then rinse it out?
 
Gemini350z said:
I know this might be dumb, but how do you cowash? Do you wet your hair then add the condish or do you add the condish then rinse it out?
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The idea is to use a conditiner in exactly the same way as your shampoo. However if you think your scalp may get build up i would recommend you do not apply a whole heap directly to your scalp.
I would say applying condish to dry hair would be more like a pre-poo which i believe some people do before they co-wash.

I'm not an expert at co-washing and don't do it often so someone else may come in and correct me.
 
Newbie here...what's the purpose of a pre-poo and how do I do it?

I have many other questions just can't think, its way past my bedtime

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I keep seeing growth aids/vitamins and such. I'm interested. My problem is that I'm highly allergic to sulfur medication. I ended up in thehospital for 4 days! Horrible experience. So I'm pretty sure that sulfur on my scalp would be a big no no. Ion want loose my life just for some long hair.

So what other optio s do I have besides sulfur/sulfur containing products?

THX
 
Gemini350z said:
I know this might be dumb, but how do you cowash? Do you wet your hair then add the condish or do you add the condish then rinse it out?
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@Gemini350z I personally do not CW exactly the way I use shampoo. To me shampoo is for washing/cleaning HAIR & SCALP, while conditioner is for moisturizing HAIR ONLY.

So when I CW, I only apply to hair (either dry hair, leave on for a spell, rinse; or wet hair and then follow same procedure as dry). I do not apply it close to my scalp because I believe conditioner has no business on the scalp and leaves a residue that causes itches on scalp but that is great for protecting hair.

When I shampoo, I apply undiluted shampoo to scalp and massage it in to clean then when I start rinsing I wring it through my hair to clean that too.
 
fiyahwerks said:
Why do you seal weave wefts?
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fiyahwerks I believe people do it so that the hair attached to the weft doesn't fall out and by doing so they prolong the life of the tracks.

A lot of problems with weave hair is the hair isn't attached properly to the weft so it can start shedding and in time, you end up with less hair than you installed. So sealing just ensures a more durable/long-lasting track.
 
Nonie said:
@Gemini350z I personally do not CW exactly the way I use shampoo. To me shampoo is for washing/cleaning HAIR & SCALP, while conditioner is for moisturizing HAIR ONLY.

So when I CW, I only apply to hair (either dry hair, leave on for a spell, rinse; or wet hair and then follow same procedure as dry). I do not apply it close to my scalp because I believe conditioner has no business on the scalp and leaves a residue that causes itches on scalp but that is great for protecting hair.

When I shampoo, I apply undiluted shampoo to scalp and massage it in to clean then when I start rinsing I wring it through my hair to clean that too.
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Conditioner on the scalp for me is a huge no no! Itchiness galore. I do the same and only apply to my hair. Before that I just rub massage my scalp with water.
 
Sesi said:
I have a dumb question.

What is BSB - for the life of me I can't figure it out.

Anyone?
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cocosweet said:
Below Shoulder Blades.
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:yep:

Sesi, the reason BSB came about is because using "bra strap position" as a way to gauge progress could be misleading depending on the bra you're wearing. If you wore a thick strapped bra, then you could arrive sooner at BSL than if you wore a thin strap...and every time you changed, you'd find yourself at a different length in relation to it. So your true length and progress would be hard to determine. Also, folks wear bras differently :giggle:
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Body parts are better as they are likely to stay at the same place from one day to the next. So a chart based on body parts methinks is better to help you keep track of your progress. Like this one I created (Key below):
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Key: NL = neck length; SL = shoulder length; CBL = collarbone length; APL = armpit length; BSB = below shoulder blades; MBL = midback length; WL = waist length; HBL = hipbone length; BL = butt length; MTL = mid-thigh length; KL = knee length; MCL = mid-calf length; AL = ankle length; then I added FL (floor length, even though it's not a body part just coz I'd drawn the line and didn't feel like coloring it out). Guess, I could've called it Sole Length...but another SL would've been too confusing)
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Or this one:

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