BKT alternative?

[Stormy]

I've been viewing this and other BKT alternative threads for a few days, but still trying to see which one to choose. Can somebody tell me, for 4B hair which one would be most effective, Arosci, DE, QOD Max,White or Gold?

 

[LivingDoll]

I went with no heat and primarily wore weaves and twist outs for the last 6 months, but my hair did not thrive. I did retain a little length but my ends are all jacked up from the manipulation of the twist outs, even though I moisturized and sealed almost daily.

Like a lot of you ladies, my strands are fine and dense. I finally realized that frequent manipulation from pulling, twisting, braiding, etc. may not be best for my hair type. My hair grew so much faster when I wore it straight 100% of the time. Like yodie, the DE treatment will replace relaxers for me.

 

[yodie]

LivingDoll,

My ends are jacked when I start wearing twist out styles that I have to manipulate. Doesn't work for me. Straight styles allow me to maintain my ends a little better. My hair can be very discouraging. She doesn't like much and any little variance to the left or the right equals a setback for me.

My hair does well under weave, so I have half of my head under a weave and I'll grow out like that until summer 2014.

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

@naija24, you can purchase a bottle on ebay and apply yourself. the bottle runs about $145 by itself and $180 with the shampoo, and each bottle gives you 4 treatments which would last you a year if you do the treatment every 3 months as reccomended.

@Napp, I have had great results with the treatment, and retained my curl pattern with no problem. When I wore my hair straight it lasted without major reversion for 10 days before I washed it and started wearing wash n gos. I'll post pics of my hair today 3 weeks post treatment in its curly state and I'll post a pic of my hair straightened whenever I do that (maybe a week or two...I'm liking my frizz free wash n goes )

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Napp, (the looser areas in front were like that before doing the treatment):

 

[Napp]

I did the arosci restructuring foam and so far i like the results. my hair is so obedient now i remember why i enjoy keratin/smoothing treatments.

This product did have an odor that was very similar to the naked product i have tried in the past. what i did notice was that when flat ironing this product caked up on my flat iron and wiping it wouldnt get it off which made the smell permeate throughout the floor.

i found it a bit hard to blowdry into my hair for some reason. my hair was really poofy after blowdrying when usually i can get it pretty straight. As soon as the flat iron hit my hair it instantly turned into silk though. I did 2 passes at 370.

I didn't keep it straight like i normally would. it is too hot and my hair is too short to be rocking a straight do right now. i washed it out the next day. My hair did not puff up at the roots overnight like it did with the other treatment but my hair felt more coated and stiff with the arosci.

I have been STRUGGLING with frizz and after this treatment my hair is frizz free. As for strengthening my hair i dont think it does. I will monitor my hair closely.

Here are some pics

Before:

Straightened

After

Detail

overall i still prefer keratin treatments but this is a good alternative to them. it would also be good to use as a refresher in between keratin treatments if once decided to do both.

 

[Starronda]

I'm not familiar with chi enviro. I wanted to go with one of the more recognized brands.

yodie what salon did you go to get this done?

 

[yodie]

I went to B Chic Salon in Union.

 

[BlackHairDiva]

I'm noticing extreme retention of my new growth now that I BKT twice a year. It's marvelous.

yes that is why I love BKT so much!!! WHen I started I was 100% natural but I love having my hair straight a lot! So After 1 plus with bkt, I decided to fully revert. I got my hair relaxed not a single issue with my hair. Im still BKT'ing on my relaxed hair. Retaining nicely and stretching comfortably.

 

[Starronda]

I went to B Chic Salon in Union.

Nice. I'll be making an appointment in a few weeks for DE

 

[naija24]

Napp your hair, straight or curly, is just BEAUTIFUL.

I really want to get my own BKT treatment over a relaxer once I take my braids out and see what it's like. It'll be the same almost as a relaxer in terms of price, at least at the local ULTA store where I plan to get it done.

anyone had experience with this and weak ends though? I know I am in need of a trim especially since some of my ends are poking out of my senegalese twists. will it break it or something.

What's the most mild BKT out there? I rather start with something mild first.

 

[BostonMaria]

I did the arosci restructuring foam and so far i like the results. my hair is so obedient now i remember why i enjoy keratin/smoothing treatments.

This product did have an odor that was very similar to the naked product i have tried in the past. what i did notice was that when flat ironing this product caked up on my flat iron and wiping it wouldnt get it off which made the smell permeate throughout the floor.

i found it a bit hard to blowdry into my hair for some reason. my hair was really poofy after blowdrying when usually i can get it pretty straight. As soon as the flat iron hit my hair it instantly turned into silk though. I did 2 passes at 370.

I didn't keep it straight like i normally would. it is too hot and my hair is too short to be rocking a straight do right now. i washed it out the next day. My hair did not puff up at the roots overnight like it did with the other treatment but my hair felt more coated and stiff with the arosci.

I have been STRUGGLING with frizz and after this treatment my hair is frizz free. As for strengthening my hair i dont think it does. I will monitor my hair closely.

Here are some pics

Before:

Straightened

After

Detail

overall i still prefer keratin treatments but this is a good alternative to them. it would also be good to use as a refresher in between keratin treatments if once decided to do both.

You did a great job! Beautiful

 

[davisbr88]

Napp: Sorry I forgot to come back and report! I've been ghost from the boards for a while!
Anyway, your results are fantastic!
My hair looks pretty much the same as my natural curls except shinier and with zero frizz. I love Arosci!
I am going to roller set today and will post results after

 

[Channy31]

Just bought my second round of the treatment, it's cost me about £150 for a bottle So excited!

 

[LivingDoll]

Hi Ladies...I apologize that I'm just now posting about my experience with DE.

I had gone out on a date and we sat outside to eat on a humid night about three weeks ago. Well, by the end of the date, my beautiful blow out looked like a big ole brown cottonball!

The next day, I applied the treatment. Here are my initial thoughts:
-I applied the treatment with my bare hands. I know I shouldn't have, but it didn't cause any harm.
-The treatment has a very pleasant smell.
-I could tell the difference in my curls immediately. They were more stretched and silky. The frizz was markedly lessened.
-After I shampooed my hair, it was sooooo soft and manageable!
-After I flat ironed the treatment in, I immediately saw a difference in the length of my hair! I swear, it looked about 1.5 inches longer.

After a few weeks I noticed:
-My hair has only swelled once. On another date, we sat by a lake for a few hours. Bad idea. It still wasn't anything like it would have been without DE.
-I have WAY LESS shedding.
-My hair is so much more manageable.
-My hair holds curls 1000% better.

I am absolutely enamoured by this treatment. I plan to purchase it. I just want to give special thanks to Dove56 for being so generous and allowing me to try the treatment at no cost. She also sent me some other nice goodies that I love. Good looking out girly! I also want to thank the other ladies yodie, MixedGirl, Napp, and all the other ladies for sharing your experiences with DE and the other alternative brands.

I'm sorry, I didn't have the patience to take any pictures. I will try to do better next time.

 

[yodie]

LivingDoll, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm so glad you had a great experience with DE. I also apply the treatment with my hands and never had any issues. I like to feel my hair as I do it. I second EVERYTHING you said about less shedding, more manageable hair and the list goes on. I'm able to retain with DE. That alone is a miracle.

Grab a bottle off Ebay.
Who's next to try DE?

 

[Dove56]

Hi Ladies...I apologize that I'm just now posting about my experience with DE.

I had gone out on a date and we sat outside to eat on a humid night about three weeks ago. Well, by the end of the date, my beautiful blow out looked like a big ole brown cottonball!

The next day, I applied the treatment. Here are my initial thoughts:
-I applied the treatment with my bare hands. I know I shouldn't have, but it didn't cause any harm.
-The treatment has a very pleasant smell.
-I could tell the difference in my curls immediately. They were more stretched and silky. The frizz was markedly lessened.
-After I shampooed my hair, it was sooooo soft and manageable!
-After I flat ironed the treatment in, I immediately saw a difference in the length of my hair! I swear, it looked about 1.5 inches longer.

After a few weeks I noticed:
-My hair has only swelled once. On another date, we sat by a lake for a few hours. Bad idea. It still wasn't anything like it would have been without DE.
-I have WAY LESS shedding.
-My hair is so much more manageable.
-My hair holds curls 1000% better.

I am absolutely enamoured by this treatment. I plan to purchase it. I just want to give special thanks to Dove56 for being so generous and allowing me to try the treatment at no cost. She also sent me some other nice goodies that I love. Good looking out girly! I also want to thank the other ladies yodie, MixedGirl, Napp, and all the other ladies for sharing your experiences with DE and the other alternative brands.

I'm sorry, I didn't have the patience to take any pictures. I will try to do better next time.

LivingDoll I'm so glad you loved it! It's almost time for my next treatment woot!

I will forever be indebted to yodie

 

[g.lo]

I am really considering this, are you guys using the transition or the long action mousse? Thanks

 

[yodie]

Dove56, you are so sweet. I owe my having the faith to do my own treatment to you. I brought a bottle, did the treatment and there's no looking back.

g.lo, I use the foam that allows me to wear straight styles. IMO, I don't see a need for the mousse because the foam still provides plenty of texture to your hair. You can blow it out and/or wear twist out styles just the same.

 

[g.lo]

Dove56, you are so sweet. I owe my having the faith to do my own treatment to you. I brought a bottle, did the treatment and there's no looking back.

g.lo, I use the foam that allows me to wear straight styles. IMO, I don't see a need for the mousse because the foam still provides plenty of texture to your hair. You can blow it out and/or wear twist out styles just the same.

@yodi, thanks! I meant which strength are you using is it the elongation one or the transition?

 

[LivingDoll]

g.lo...I did the transitioning mousse since I don't plan to wear wash n go's or natural styles. My hair seems to retain better when it is straight (due to less manipulation).

 

[Napp]

ugh you guys are making me want to try the foam out next.

 

[tapioca_pudding]

Napp right?? Smh.... Grr.. lol.

 

[coolsista-paris]

i was going to relax in about 10-15 days... im wondering, maybe i should give this a try before relaxing my virgin hair?

i have fine 4b hair , stuck at bsb... loves protein and retains better in straight styles.... natural styles just make my hair break anyway...

i guess i need the foam right? i dont plan wearing natural styles.

also is there a cheaper place to order de ? or at least a small packet for trying??

 

[yodie]

@yodi, thanks! I meant which strength are you using is it the elongation one or the transition?

I use the transition mousse. I think the transition mousse can be used to elongate curls and wear your hair straight. Use just heat if you want straight hair.

 

[yodie]

i was going to relax in about 10-15 days... im wondering, maybe i should give this a try before relaxing my virgin hair?

i have fine 4b hair , stuck at bsb... loves protein and retains better in straight styles.... natural styles just make my hair break anyway...

i guess i need the foam right? i dont plan wearing natural styles.

also is there a cheaper place to order de ? or at least a small packet for trying??

I would go with the DE over a relaxer any day, Relaxers damage my hair no matter how much protein I use or how well I take care of my hair.

 

[PureSilver]

the price isnt that bad on ebay:scratchch

im trying to decide wheter i should use the arosci that i have, get the DE transitioning mousse or get the inoar argan oil bkt.

I am still not sold on the DE because I havent seen enough post wash pics. i do not want what happened with the product i used before to happen again.

Napp I washed a few videos on youtube today and i liked the results. try these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jIv8-fL6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnXsUrcsqfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-QnBkq0Qk

@LivingDoll, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm so glad you had a great experience with DE. I also apply the treatment with my hands and never had any issues. I like to feel my hair as I do it. I second EVERYTHING you said about less shedding, more manageable hair and the list goes on. I'm able to retain with DE. That alone is a miracle.

Grab a bottle off Ebay.
Who's next to try DE?

Me Me Me but i can't find the elongation mousse on ebay

i was going to relax in about 10-15 days... im wondering, maybe i should give this a try before relaxing my virgin hair?

i have fine 4b hair , stuck at bsb... loves protein and retains better in straight styles.... natural styles just make my hair break anyway...

i guess i need the foam right? i dont plan wearing natural styles.

also is there a cheaper place to order de ? or at least a small packet for trying??

coolsista-paris like you i was on the verge of relaxing and i realize that we created threads requesting info on relaxers the same time, we are now looking into RELAXER & BKT alternatives. Personally i won't get the relaxer, i really want to and would prefer trying the DE treatment the ladies up thread have mentioned.

 

[coolsista-paris]

Napp I washed a few videos on youtube today and i liked the results. try these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jIv8-fL6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnXsUrcsqfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-QnBkq0Qk

Me Me Me but i can't find the elongation mousse on ebay

coolsista-paris like you i was on the verge of relaxing and i realize that we created threads requesting info on relaxers the same time, we are now looking into RELAXER & BKT alternatives. Personally i won't get the relaxer, i really want to and would prefer trying the DE treatment the ladies up thread have mentioned.

hey,so we are in the same situation. id like to try out the de before relaxing but....jeeze that price! isnt there a tester??

when are you planning to do yours?

 

[MileHighDiva]

PureSilver, here's links to the DE Transitioning Mousse and DE Elongation Mousse on EBay. In addition, last night I saw the same items about $5 cheaper, but I don't have time to go through the 7 pages of DE products on EBay right now.

 

[PureSilver]

MileHighDiva thank you. I have been watching that price for 2 days now. I saw it for $144, maybe that's the one you saw too. I will be getting the transitioning mousse since i want my curls to stretch out more and i've been wanting to wear straight styles for the longest while. My hair is close to BSL and i don't see the need to be wearing plaits everyday.......it makes me look too much like the days of color purple around the house in this modern time.