Are some hairdressers undercover HATERS

[Peacesteem]

I was just wondering because everyone in this board agrees that hair dressers should know better than some of the harmful things that they have done to our heads. Even after telling them how to do something they seem to ignore our request damamaging our hard worked for hair.

I have natural hair that is really growing thick and healthy. I went to an african braider her hair was short knoty and DRY looking. The braider had several combs on the table wide to narrow teeth comes. She picked up the narrow comb and started to rip through my hair! I almost lost my religion, I told her to stop and put my hat on and left! As a result I do my own hair.

My cousin has always had long hair to her WAIST; a hairdresser cut her hair to her BRA STAP when she went in for a TRIM. Now she goes to a hairdresser who has long well cared for hair. The new hairdresser cares for her hair and dusts the ends not hack them off. My cousins hair is back to WAIST lenght thanks to the new caring hairdresser.

Bottom line look at the hair on the head that's doing your head /images/graemlins/wink.gif. It might make all the difference to how they care for you crown.

 

[BrightEyes]

Yup

To answer your question, YES!

I only trust one salon to do my hair. I'm natural as well, and I find that most hairdressers in general are ignorant about natural hair. The don't know how to treat it. The salon I go specializes in natural hair, and I chose to try it for that reason. They service a lot of long haired ladies, and I thought that was a good sign.

I trim my own hair. I don't wear it straight very much so I don't have to worry about the edges being perfectly even. My hairdresser has never commented on my ends one way or another, so I take that as a good sign.

All my hairdresser have "good hair". Meaning it's thick, healthy, (in some cases) long, and soft.

 

[Peacesteem]

Re: Yup

What really empowered me to walk out (besides the fact that steam was coming out my ears)is that I wore a hat to the salon. Even though my hair was like a uncombed Angela Davis Fro I was able to put the hat on and step!

Now if I ever go to somewhere to get my hair done I bring a hate. Even in the summer they have nice summer hats. That way if the hairdresser does some ill move, I can put my hat on and leave. I think that is why some women remain silent and let the hairdresser do their thing. Once they get started we are feel stuck because they have already started our hair!

Ladies I say bring a hat, when in doubt get up and walk out.
It might save the hair on your head.

 

[Peacesteem]

While on the topic how many hairdressers talk clients into using a different relaxer and when the clients hair falls out they blame the clients hair routine or the hair itself.
If something is working why don't they just leave it alone?

 

[moni]

Why are some women like this? It doesn't pay to be jealous, especially when you do vindictive acts because of it. Don't grown women know by now that, "What is for you will be for you, and what is for someone else is for that person." (words of wisdom from my grandmother). Ugh...some women are sometimes so...

 

[Tracy]

I think many hairdressers are guilty of this. I persoanlly think not only is it related to whether or not the hairdresser themselves have hair that is not well cared for, but also that it's just a woman thing.

I've only seen a few men stylists in my salon going years and I have yet to meet a male that gave me the impression they were hating. Women stylists on the otherhand are haters about 65% of time.

Pretty sad. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[moni]

now this may sound stupid, but if hairdressers are long hair haters, aren't they in the wrong profession? their goal should be to make womens hair look good, isn't it.

 

[moni]

oops. forgot about the almighty dollar. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[legs71]

Peacesteem,

Not to offend anyone, but I find that every African Braiding Salon I have gone to has no regard for other people's hair.To be completely honest most of them have very short and damaged hair despite the fact they're always wearing braids. They're notorious for taking that small tooth "foxtail" comb and running it through your hair very roughly. I am also natural and I tell you it burns me up when they do that. Thankfully I have found a great African braiding salon I have been going to for 2 years now and they treat my hair as gently as I do which is a blessing.

 

[SShanique]

Thank God that whenever I go to a hairdresser it's my aunt, and she absolutely adores me! I'd never want to have to go through a hating stylist! I've never even heard of it until I read this post!

 

[Babychoc]

That is EXACTLY why I started doing my own hair

at home. I have been to a lot of stylists who just didn't do what I asked them to do and I got sick of wasting my time and $ going through that. I have experienced attitudes and what I think may have been jealousy too. It's MY hair and it's their job to do what YOU tell them. All of you that have found a trusty hair dresser, condsider yourself lucky.

 

[Kitkat]

Girl, I hear you!! You are so right; you really have to be on the case with what someone is doing to your head.

The last time I got my hair braided, I went to an African braiding salon. I had been braiding it for almost a year, so I had lots of new growth that I had not been relaxing. It was very thick in it's semi-natural state, so any fool would have known that a rat tail comb wouldn't possibly work. Don't you know the braider picked up the comb with the smallest teeth to try to run through my hair?!! I not only grabbed her hand (yes, I did), but whipped out my own comb PLUS hair moisturizer and combed it out myself. I don't know what the deal is with that.

I like your hat idea, though. I'll have to keep that in mind next time!

 

[keylargo]

yes. everytime i go to a knew hairdresser, they tell me "oh you need to come in every week for awhile to get your hair back in shape". maybe it was true each time, but my hair never made it to actually being in shape with any of them.

 

[Miss Montserrat]

They sure do hide their products in the secret cubby hole and put them in unmarked containers but I suuppose its their livelihood/ bread and butter. If they told us evrything we needed to know, what would we need them for. i personally prefer to wash and set my hair at home and would only go to the hairdresser for a trim or a relaxer. One hairdresser ran a relaxer through my sisters ends for no darn reason (and she has streaks in her hair). the more jacked up your hair is... the more you need them (in theory) /images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[pebbles]

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I was just wondering because everyone in this board agrees that hair dressers should know better than some of the harmful things that they have done to our heads. Even after telling them how to do something they seem to ignore our request damamaging our hard worked for hair.

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I agree with you. I really have issues with the ones who don't even want you to ask them any questions while they work. What's up with that? It's my hair! I can make a recommendation on how to handle my hair, and it should be taken into consideration. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[Valerie]

What I noticed with a lot of black hairdressers, their bread and butter is this relaxing. There are very few salons, who are into natural hair care, many look after locs, but few look after natural hair and sometimes, people /images/graemlins/frown.gifhave to employ braiders to come home to plait their hair. Plus black people have a very negative attitude about themselves, many still feel that black women cannot grow their hair long, shoulder length yes, there is preferential treatment to women who are racially mixed, but we treat our own people like dogs, which is so wrong. I look after mine own hair, I would love to get my hair braider, but I found it very difficult to rely on people. I had a friend who used to braid my hair, she did it twice and in the end, her mother stopped her from doing so, when my hair started to retain the length. If you go to those very expensive salons, they may relax your hair properly, but the money, but dealing with natural hair takes times, patience and love and until we learn to love for our hair, then only many hair dressers can be losers.

 

[pebbles]

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I had a friend who used to braid my hair, she did it twice and in the end, her mother stopped her from doing so, when my hair started to retain the length.

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That's a shame. /images/graemlins/frown.gif I hope she didn't stop your friend from braiding your hair for the reasons I'm thinking she did.

 

[vevster]

I don't think they are haters but I do know some hair dressers that are just doing it to make a buck--- not because they love hair or hair dressing..

 

[SVT]

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vevster said:
I don't think they are haters but I do know some hair dressers that are just doing it to make a buck--- not because they love hair or hair dressing..

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yep.

 

[Pumpkin]

I beleive it is a 50-50 shot. Half are haters and the other half love their masterpieces. I try to go to stylists who have hair shows and are featured in hair magazines. Contrary to popular belief, many of them are not that expensive. It seems they take pride in your accomplishments because they are well-known in the hair community and would receive such scrutiny from their peers if they jacked up your hair. Their careers revolve around a clients progress as opposed to (I don't want to be mean) around-the-way-stylists.

I went to one of those around-the-way-stylists and every week there was something wrong with my hair that she said could be fixed if I came every week for 5 months. Can I smell ripping someone off?? This how you can distinguish between a good stylist and bad one. My stylist now gives it to me straight and tells me I can get my hair healthy on my OWN and that there is no need for me to see him every week in order to do so.

I also find it sad but true that many stylist do not think coarse 4a/b hair can grow. I went to a salon where a girl (I think she was mixed) was getting her hair done and it was very long. We were both getting relaxers. (I have 4b hair). Let me tell you, they gave this chick sooo much attention and my poor head was treated like some annoying step-child. Once I acheive my goal I want to step into every one of those salons that thought my hair could not grow past my shoulders.

So the lesson is, watch out for stylists. Look at their clients' hair. I have also found the best stylists come via referrals, especially from these boards.

 

[SexyGyrlNY]

This post has hit a nerve...
Twice I have trusted hairdressers with my hair and twice I have been burnt....

The first time I wanted a cut, nothing too dramatic I just wanted the front to be cut at an angle to my face and the back to be left long (with just a little trim). When she was done I was speechless (and not because I was amazed by the style) My hair that was previously almost bra strap length was cut in a style similar to a bob (the back came just beneath my neck and the front stopped at my chin..WTF!?) I looked in tears at the picture that I had shown her and she said "well, every hairstyle does not look the same on every person..blah blah blah" I promptly got up and walked out.

The second time was much more recent(actually in Oct 02')
Wanting to give my hair a break from everyday styling,etc. I decided that I wanted to try out micro braids (you know the ones that aren't braided all the way down). Plus I was due for a perm, so I thought that it would be a perfect time to get them. Getting them done in VA was out of the question (I'm in college down here and these people charge starting at $250 and up depending on the length of your hair) so I decided to go home (NYC) for the weekend and get them done on 125th. I washed and conditioned my hair before I went and the lady (who by the way didn't have much hair, and whose hairline started at her ear)that did my hair kept commenting on how nice it was and what products I was using just before she proceeded to try and rip out my "nice and healthy hair" using that small orange rat tooth comb to comb it out. When I stopped her and combed out my own hair I think she got a bit offended, but saying nothing (yet) she started to braid my hair, it was when I informed her that I didn't want her to braid my hairline too tight (didn't want the receding hairline look later ya know?)thats when the talking started (of course in their native tongue)I did'nt get offended though, as long as she was doing my hair the way that I wanted it done and I must say I was pleased with the results (though I did wish that they were braided down a little longer, just so that all of my hair was braided up)but I left it alone and left . It was taking them out that I realized what she had done, she had put a knot at the end of each tiny braid, and since MY hair was not all braided up you know what that meant. It was HELL getting my hair out of those braids without resorting to just cutting the knots out, when I was done my hair looked like s**t, that's when I vowed never again to let another so called "professional" wreck that much havoc on my hair again. But on the brighter side, that hair experience propelled me to get on the internet and find a good site about hair care and voila! I found you guys and through everything I learned from this board (that hairdressers would never tell you) my hair is slowly getting back in shape. So Thank You to everyone who posts regularly w/ recommendations and regimes, your posts are always appreciated and the information is priceless.
P.S. I know its long, but thanks for letting me vent /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[SweetNic_JA]

I'm new on the board and I could not resist this topic.
My worst experience with a stylist happened when I was in highschool. I usually braid my own hair and it turns out very welll but on this day I decided to go to the "Professional African Hair Braider" at the salon that I frequented. Well the lady braided my hair alright and to finish up and "neaten" the style...she attempted to run a lighter over the entire length of my hair!!! Before she could start the first section I pushed her hand from I head and told her not to do that...She looked at ME like I was crazy. I paid for the braids and stupidly tipped her (??? highschool dayz ) and left.

The next time I did braids I did them myself and they looked better than what the stylist had done.

Another thing...it seems like the hair braiders on 125th street are in love with the skinny rat tail combs because I had the same experience that some of you had.

 

[simone103]

I don't think hairdressers are necessarily haters, but I do believe a lot them are just plain greedy. They have to find a way to keep you coming back to them. Trimming and cutting your hair off is a lot of the time how they make their money. The average salon charges at least $10-$15 for a haircut. Some of them don't tell you what products they use because they fear that you'll go out and buy the same stuff and stop coming to them. What it really boils down to is the mighty dollar.

SexyGrl: I used to get microbraids on 125th street, and most of the braiders tie a knot at the end of each tiny braid to keep them from unraveling.

 

[sassygirl125]

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I don't think hairdressers are necessarily haters, but I do believe a lot them are just plain greedy. They have to find a way to keep you coming back to them.

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I agree with this. My hair was shedding like crazy. When I called the salon to find out what the stylist did to my hair, she tried to talk me into coming to the salon every week for a 'treatment'. /images/graemlins/mad.gif
I starting channeling my grandmother's spirit and almost blurted out, "You must be out yo' rabbit a** mind if you think I'm gonna let you get near my head again!" /images/graemlins/grin.gif
I just said, no thanks and hung up...

 

[Tee]

I think it's a combination of money and jealousy, at least in my past experience. I've noticed a lot of hairdressers like to make you feel like you're dependent on them. Like your hair won't grow unless you're in the salon every minute. I'm convinced my ex-hairdresser jacked up my hair on purpose because I've learned to take better care of my hair on my own and stopped going to her every week to get my hair done. Can you tell I'm still bitter? /images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[Allandra]

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Tracy said:
I think many hairdressers are guilty of this. I persoanlly think not only is it related to whether or not the hairdresser themselves have hair that is not well cared for, but also that it's just a woman thing.

I've only seen a few men stylists in my salon going years and I have yet to meet a male that gave me the impression they were hating. Women stylists on the otherhand are haters about 65% of time.

Pretty sad. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Ditto.

 

[hairfanatic]

I think some of them truly are. I personally wouldn't want to trust a person that has hair that is not well cared for! I just can't deal with beauticians anymore. They either want to cut too much or charge too much for their "so called" miracle conditioners. Too many of them think that the same relaxer, shampoo etc works on all clients, that's a big thing I see with a lot of beauticians these days. Thank goodness, I am learning how to be a master at my own hair. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Jenai]

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vevster said:
I don't think they are haters but I do know some hair dressers that are just doing it to make a buck--- not because they love hair or hair dressing..

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This is probably reason number one - money. However, I will not go to any hairdresser with messed up hair. I mean, if they can't take care of their own hair, how can they help me?

 

[AZJeepgurl]

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Bottom line look at the hair on the head that's doing your head

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Amen, Peacesteem! That is the first thing I do when trying out a new stylist is look at her own tresses. Weaves and braids on a stylist means I don't try them out. Period! Inquiring minds need to know. Problem for me: Here in Arizona, there are few black stylists and even fewer with long and/or healthy hair.

And all the sistahs I meet on the street with long, healthy hair say, " I do my own relaxers!" Ugh!

Side note: I wish phone books would list whether a salon was black or white so I could save my gas!

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[azul11]

they did this to me. they would take the finest tooth comb and comb my hair. so i brought my own combs. i would tell them over and over not too tight, and not around my hairline even though they tried i said uh uh. then they tied the knot. now i have had this done before with no problem but they tied it twice in some places which is what caused me the problems. if i go back which i am dreading but i need to get my hair braided i will tell them braid further down and dont double knot it. damn those ladies annoy me. i swear if i was mayor they would be the first ones off the street. i have so many words for them but i cant say them. God bless you all.