Are some hairdressers undercover HATERS

[sassygirl125]

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Side note: I wish phone books would list whether a salon was black or white so I could save my gas!

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LOL I agree! I usually judge by the neighborhood and (if they have an ad) the services they offer. But the name is usally a dead giveaway. "Diva's" and "Sista Sista" are probably black salons. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif There is a woman here in Columbia that advertises as "The Diva Hair Weaver". I didn't even need to look at the picture. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[JerseyGirl]

I went to get my hair braided by a woman that worked in a salon in Brooklyn. As she was braiding my hair she told me horror stories of life in a salon. She was the girl that wash, conditioned and perm hair. She was told by the owner to never disagree (especially in front of a customer) with the stylist they had their license she didn’t. They only used one relaxer on all customers. She was told to put perms in the clients’ hair every six weeks and they barely had 1/2 of new growth. The stylist knew they were overprocessing their clients hair. Because eventually the client will come back and say “My hair is breaking” and guess what the stylist would tell them - you need a treatment $20-$25.00 and a cut $20-$25.00. Are you wrapping your hair at night, are you putting a curling iron in your hair everyday? Of course, the customer would be at the mercy of the stylist because they believe they can trust them. She told me that this salon would make so much money in a month. Everything they did was not the health of the clients’ hair but for their pockets. I believe this to be true of so many salons not only this one.

Finding a stylist you can trust is just as hard as finding a good man.

 

[Peacesteem]

Hi Vevster,

I totally agree with you, the post says "Are SOME hairdressers undercover Haters". See I've been on both sides of the fence so to speak I've had a relaxer for years and for the past four years I've been wearing my hair natural. In my experience I've had hairdresser jack me up when my hair was relaxed and natural. I must admit that this did not happen when I went to more upscale salons. Those places will get rid of a sub-par stylist. However, in the more moderate priced salons they get away with murder! It does not make any sense for a stylist to hack off someones hair when the ask for a trim! I know thier are some who are after the dollar. But if you were after the dollar wouldn't the hairdresser do a GOOD job to get repeat business or more work through word of mouth?

This leads me to believe that Haidressers fit into three different catorgories

1. Loves hair and making people feel good.

2. Money lovers who do hair only for personal gain

3. Haters who are hairdressers but have personal issues that affect the quality of their work.

 

[Peacesteem]

This happened to me! I have 4a/biii hair. I don't remember what perm I was using but it was a lye relaxer. I went to a new place because it was always packed when I walked by. I had been doing my own hair and it was not growing so I thought I would get it "proffessionaly done". She looked at my new growth and said that my hair was too thick for the perm I was using and said that she was going to put in optimum regular. I was all wide eyed and naive so I said, "Sure".

I know now that my hair is thick because I have alot of strands. I actually have fine delicate hair stramds but there is so much hair that it looks thick. Anyway she went on to tell me that me hair was not growing because I was using the wrong perm blah blah blah.

One week later my hair was coming out in my comb like I was a shedding cat!! The perm was too strong for my delicate strands and was causing them to break I had deep condition and cut the ends of at the same time. I later learned that the owner had some agreement with optimum perm and that was the product that they pushed on all the clients. For some this type of perm was wonderful but not on my head. The stylist could care less about me or my hair all she saw was dollar signs!

 

[Julia]

Re: Ignorance

Peacesteem,

I agree with you but would add an additional category. My hairdresser (ex) is not vengeful. She has a genuine desire to do the best for your hair but this desire is mitigated by the fact that she thinks she knows it all - and you can't tell her nuttin'. Unfortunately alot has changed and alot of knowledge has been gained in the million and a half years since she went to hairdressing school. She needs to upgrade her skills, take a re-fresher course, close up shop once in a while if necessary and go to some conferences to learn about what is new and leading-edge when it comes to hairdressing in general and specifically re: black hair care. I know that alot of hairdressers fall into this category. They have not upgraded in years! They get thier info. from the reps. that sell/stock their black hair care products. Of course the rep. is going to tell you that their product is the best - that is what they are getting paid to do. They need more than this.

Some of the members on the haircare board are more knowledgeable about haircare than these so-called hairdressers are. Getting a relaxer is the easy part - many on the board do their own. The harder part, or what us as clients need to know is how to maintain and take care of our hair in between relaxers. None of my hairdressers ever talked to me about how to moisturize my hair, and the importance of washing it regularily, and they never ever told me how to take care of my ends. They only told me to make sure that I came for my re-touch every 12 weeks and for "treatments" every two weeks. When my hairdresser overlapped my relaxer last year and caused me to lose 3-4 precious inches in length, when I went to her she asked me if I was stressed why my hair was breaking and told me that "something must be going on in my body" why my hair is breaking...

So I would add:

4. Ignorance: Lack of current knowledge about black hair care to your list. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[Peacesteem]

Re: Ignorance

You are so right. I forgot the basic reason for what is wrong in the world (lack of knowledge).

Okay so Hairdressers fit into FOUR catagories

1. Love doing hair and making people feel good.

2. Lovers of money and personal gain

3. Haters who mess up clients hair because they have issues

4. Ignorance, still using method used in the 60's

 

[wantfullhair]

Alot of hairdressers are like that and it really upsets me, if i tell you to do something you should do it to my hair and not hurt it.Afterall, they make their money off clients so they should respect us too!

 

[FineChyna]

what really steared me away from salons was seeing people who went to them all had really short and broken off hair. they all NEEDED weaves and hairpieces cause they didn't have no hair! the people who had long healthy hair either did it themselves or had a relitive who cared do their hair. the person who was doing my perm was doing my hair for the most part seemed rather disinterested in my hair and hair problems so i gave up and went natural. certain areas of my hair were consistently shedding/breaking off. when i asked for help all they can say was i must have been breaking it off somehow although for years i was wearing a lose pony tail at the nap of my head or at the middle and used no heat on my hair. it dawned on me that it had to be more than just my "fault" so i gave up on them. i talked to them today and they were trying to convince me to go back to a perm and let them do it...yeah mmmmkkkkkay.

 

[henrilou]

Ohh... I don't think stylists "HATE" I think they want to keep you coming back to the shop. It's all about the clientele and how regular they can make you. It's ridiculous, they scare you into thinking that if you're not in here every week, you'll be bald by the end of the month. OH, and stylists don't 'hate' long hair, there's just no money in it. Short hair requires more upkeep (highlites, clips, touch-ups)So of course they want your hair short. And if you insist on wanting long hair, they'll tell you they charge more. I interviewed a stylist last week (canceled my appt w/her, however, cuz we disagreed on whether my hair needs a trim--- hell, that's MY decision) and she said, " OH hair your length I charge xtra--$50 for a simple wash/press" If I had short hair it wouldn't be xtra simply because she could charge me on all the maintenance I would need.

 

[virgomoongoddess]

I don't know whether it is hating or not wanting to work on the part of the stylist. I have gone to a stylist before who usually specializes in "ghetto fabulous" hair styles with weave glue and gel. When i ask for a simple roller set every week she thinks I am being boring and should try something new. She puts tons of weave and color in her hair, which is at the nape of her neck. She thinks I am being overly protective because i watch her trim my hair in the mirror. She strongly disagreed with me the first time she gave me a relaxer when i said i didn't want it left in too long so it wouldn't completely straighten my 3c hair. I swear, the things a woman will do to save $10 on a perm!

 

[Mufasa]

I haven't been to one in several years - the last one I went to was 4 years ago and it was white

Haven't been to a black one in about 9 years I think

- but I feel that black stylists tend to be this way. To me, if their own hair is in bad shape, then 9 times out of 10, yours will be too. I remember interviewing a black stylist for a light perm. I looked around at all of her clients - they all had jacked-up hair and looked so sad

(depressed auras) Her own hair was no prize either. So, I left. No need in being a part of *that* anymore.

Also, I do agree with the upgrading of skills. With one old bitty, my scalp was on fire! She said that she "would be able to tell I was burning if my ears were turning red "

When out of the braids, I have enough confidence at least to get my hair in good shape ....

Thank God for internet hair sites

 

[JFemme]

My last stylist straight up told me that " the goal of most " salons is to keep you coming back...they ( generalization ) are interested only in your steady dollars..

She braided hair in her home. But managed several salons locally. That was the last time anyone worked on my head. The braid job was so inferior that it prompted me to take them out and redo them myself.. Oh happy day !

Feeling sooo freee and fine...and grateful ever since ~~

Although, I occasionally think back to all she put in my ear. Somehow, call me naive but I did not want to believe that sisters, other black women , who know deeply the angst we can have about hair " being right "..would do that. I know about business ~~ etc...but one can ethically run a good business as well as a crock..

I would love to frequent salons that truly honoured my wishes and my hair.

 

[Spagirl]

After posting my pic and answering questions regarding my pic I came to the conclusion that my resent "Ex-stylist" is a "Hater". No wonder when I told her back in May my goal was to have waist long hair she chuckled.

 

[keke]

Peace? That is exactly what i am recognizing now. UNless they tellin you that they love their hair short like that then they must not be doin much for their own hair. I think all the years alot of us black women go to these places our hair should be MAJORLY long like every1 else. As i've been on this board and doing my own hair more and more im noticing that its something these 'pro's' are missing.

 

[Dutchess]

I would not go to a salon unless that person has knowledge of Hair Care vs hair syling. I would questions them to see if they knew about washing, conditioning, moisturizing and the overall care and growth of hair. The salons I USED to go to were basically stylist - they didn't have a clue about proper hair care. I have been doing my hair now for abouat 8 years, there's not a salon at this time that I trust my hair to.