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blackbarbie

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I'm sorry for posting this here but knew I would get a more immediate response than in the recipe forum, but I am looking for the concentration of ACV to water for one treatment.

I plan to do it this weekend and I also recommended it to my GF as part of a routine I am trying to help her with for her hair. She is on her way over now and I wanted to be sure I gave her the right proportions b/c even though she knows I frequent the board and am serious about hair, this is actually the first time she has asked for my advice on HER hair, so I want to reccomend the right thing to her.

Just to make sure that so far she is on the right track, if anyone can comment on these recommendations as well, it would help. Her hair is about chin length and she just took her braids out and after taking the braids out, she did have some growth, but her edges started disappearing after the braids came out (wasn't the braids; they were fine when the braids came out) and she said she has been having terrible breakage issues with hair everywhere. I told her to start with a good protein treatment and recommended Aphogee. I asked her if she had her of a clarifying shampoo but then told her to do an ACV rinse instead because she was talking about how her hair just doesn't "respond" to what she does to it anymore, even after a fresh shampoo.

So for starters, she is going to shampoo, do an Aphogee serious protein treatment (the one in the square bottle), do an ACV rinse, then a deep conditioner. I am also going to recommend the Neutrogena Triple Moisture to her so she can keep it moisturized daily.

Any reccomendations for products to put around her edges to fill them back in? I used MTG before and it worked well, even rec. it to a friend whose husband used it on his little bald patch (and she said he has been using it more than her!), but I am a little hesitant to recommend it to her....

Thanks in advance ladies!!!
 
blackbarbie said:
I'm sorry for posting this here but knew I would get a more immediate response than in the recipe forum, but I am looking for the concentration of ACV to water for one treatment.

I plan to do it this weekend and I also recommended it to my GF as part of a routine I am trying to help her with for her hair. She is on her way over now and I wanted to be sure I gave her the right proportions b/c even though she knows I frequent the board and am serious about hair, this is actually the first time she has asked for my advice on HER hair, so I want to reccomend the right thing to her.

Just to make sure that so far she is on the right track, if anyone can comment on these recommendations as well, it would help. Her hair is about chin length and she just took her braids out and after taking the braids out, she did have some growth, but her edges started disappearing after the braids came out (wasn't the braids; they were fine when the braids came out) and she said she has been having terrible breakage issues with hair everywhere. I told her to start with a good protein treatment and recommended Aphogee. I asked her if she had her of a clarifying shampoo but then told her to do an ACV rinse instead because she was talking about how her hair just doesn't "respond" to what she does to it anymore, even after a fresh shampoo.

So for starters, she is going to shampoo, do an Aphogee serious protein treatment (the one in the square bottle), do an ACV rinse, then a deep conditioner. I am also going to recommend the Neutrogena Triple Moisture to her so she can keep it moisturized daily.

Any reccomendations for products to put around her edges to fill them back in? I used MTG before and it worked well, even rec. it to a friend whose husband used it on his little bald patch (and she said he has been using it more than her!), but I am a little hesitant to recommend it to her....

Thanks in advance ladies!!!

I use pH strips to check my ACV concentration, which ideally shoud be around 4 to 5 pH for optimum results for my hair. I tried various recipes and measurements but results were so different that I decided the only way to be precise was to be "scientific" and check my ACV solution by using the strips to be absolutely sure of the proper pH. My measurements for a 4.5ph solution is 1/4 cup Spectrum brand ACV in a gallon of distilled water. If another brand of ACV is used or another brand of distilled water or tap water, the pH level may be different. So I just check each time I change ACV brand or use different kind of water, just to be sure.

Purchase pH strips from aquariums or science sections of hobby or toy stores, i.e., ToyRUs.

Regarding clarifying, I suggest your friend use the ACV to clarify BEFORE doing the aphogee protein treatement, for deeper penetration.

HTH!
 
Neroli said:
I use pH strips to check my ACV concentration, which ideally shoud be around 4 to 5 pH for optimum results for my hair. I tried various recipes and measurements but results were so different that I decided the only way to be precise was to be "scientific" and check my ACV solution by using the strips to be absolutely sure of the proper pH. My measurements for a 4.5ph solution is 1/4 cup Spectrum brand ACV in a gallon of distilled water. If another brand of ACV is used or another brand of distilled water or tap water, the pH level may be different. So I just check each time I change ACV brand or use different kind of water, just to be sure.

Purchase pH strips from aquariums or science sections of hobby or toy stores, i.e., ToyRUs.

Regarding clarifying, I suggest your friend use the ACV to clarify BEFORE doing the aphogee protein treatement, for deeper penetration.

HTH!

O.K. I have aquariums, so I have PH test strips that I always use to test my water, but I just thought I saw where someone posted something like XX amount of vinegar to XX amount of water and said they got good results. Didn't want to spend too much time experimenting if someone else had already done it!:lol: Besides, my test strips are for indications of 8.3 PH for saltwater, but I'll keep looking to see if I can find that post.

So you're suggesting that she (1) shampoo first, (2) do the ACV rinse, (3) do the Aphogee treatment, then (4) do the deep conditioner? That makes sense, that way the Aphogee treatment has more impact!
 
blackbarbie said:
O.K. I have aquariums, so I have PH test strips that I always use to test my water, but I just thought I saw where someone posted something like XX amount of vinegar to XX amount of water and said they got good results. Didn't want to spend too much time experimenting if someone else had already done it!:lol: Besides, my test strips are for indications of 8.3 PH for saltwater, but I'll keep looking to see if I can find that post.

So you're suggesting that she (1) shampoo first, (2) do the ACV rinse, (3) do the Aphogee treatment, then (4) do the deep conditioner? That makes sense, that way the Aphogee treatment has more impact!

I use to do the xx ACV to xx water and the results were always inconsistent and I never knew the actual pH and to me that's the key, obtaining a ACV solution with a pH of 4.5pH. Indeed, I found it MORE tedious and hazardous to my hair without the strips becasee sometimes my hair would be too dry (solution too strong) or little or no impact at all (solution too weak). All I do is dip the strip in the solution, check the color that indicates pH level and then add more ACV or water until desire pH is reach -- not a lot trouble at all and I have precision without wondering how my hair will end up! The aquarium test strips should still be able to test the entire scale of acidity and alkalinity that is, with a pH of 7 being neutral, anything below 7 is acid and anything above 7 is alkaline and the strips change color depending on the pH level, there should be a color guide that tells you the specific pH range of a solution when you dip the strips. Working from measurements from others did not work for me because different factors change the pH of the solution, i.e., ACV brand, type water, etc. and unless the exact brand and water is used, the solution will varies. . .

Yes, I think using ACV in the order you list would have greater positive impact, IMO.

HTH!
 
I use the recipe that is posted under hair recipes on the Motowngirl.com
website.It's an easy recipe. I don't use the sage or distilled water I use tap water cause I always forget to buy the distilled water.

1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar to 2 cups tap water work well for me.
I pour it over my hair after shampoo and cond as a final rinse once a week.(the smell of the vinegar disappears even before my hair is dry.My hair has more shine if I use this after conditioning and the vinegar rinse makes a great detangler):)
 
Neroli said:
I use pH strips to check my ACV concentration, which ideally shoud be around 4 to 5 pH for optimum results for my hair. I tried various recipes and measurements but results were so different that I decided the only way to be precise was to be "scientific" and check my ACV solution by using the strips to be absolutely sure of the proper pH. My measurements for a 4.5ph solution is 1/4 cup Spectrum brand ACV in a gallon of distilled water. If another brand of ACV is used or another brand of distilled water or tap water, the pH level may be different. So I just check each time I change ACV brand or use different kind of water, just to be sure.

Purchase pH strips from aquariums or science sections of hobby or toy stores, i.e., ToyRUs.

Regarding clarifying, I suggest your friend use the ACV to clarify BEFORE doing the aphogee protein treatement, for deeper penetration.

HTH!

Don't ACV closes the hair cuticle? How do you get better penetration if the cuticles are closed? I would think you want to close the cuticles after?
 
Keen said:
Don't ACV closes the hair cuticle? How do you get better penetration if the cuticles are closed? I would think you want to close the cuticles after?

ACV closes the cuticles as well as clarifies and removes buildup, allowing better penetration. Proteins are small molecules (I think) and can get under those cuticles and STAY under long enough to get the benefits and the closed cuticles will "trap" the molecules and keep them in. My condish always gets a better bang when I do an ACV first. I don't know, maybe 'cause the condish doesn't have to fight the buildup to get under there? I'm not completely sure how this works, anyone got a better explanation. . .
 
blackbarbie said:
Any reccomendations for products to put around her edges to fill them back in? I used MTG before and it worked well, even rec. it to a friend whose husband used it on his little bald patch (and she said he has been using it more than her!), but I am a little hesitant to recommend it to her....

Thanks in advance ladies!!!

As far as growing in the sides, maybe Surge? I always recommend Surge over MTG because I don't want people to think I've lost my mind when I have to explain what MTG is. You have to bring them along slowly... :lol:
 
Neroli said:
ACV closes the cuticles as well as clarifies and removes buildup, allowing better penetration. Proteins are small molecules (I think) and can get under those cuticles and STAY under long enough to get the benefits and the closed cuticles will "trap" the molecules and keep them in. My condish always gets a better bang when I do an ACV first. I don't know, maybe 'cause the condish doesn't have to fight the buildup to get under there? I'm not completely sure how this works, anyone got a better explanation. . .

That sounds good. No build up will definitely result in better penetration.
 
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