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Well, I finally did my henna after taking down my yarn braids. I'm a Hennahead, guys :)

I mixed Jamilla henna with coconut milk, hibiscus powder, silk powder, saw palmetto powder, coconut oil, safflower oil & Shea Moisture DC masque. I forgot that I should wait till the dye releases b4 adding the milk but it didn't spoil or anything.

Im about to rinse out my DC and go to bed (first time using AOHSR). I like that it completely absorbed into my hair. I have a lot of NG and the henna really stretched it nicely

I LOVE this HHJ!!
 
MileHighDiva said:
mshoneyfly BranwenRosewood Can I buy coconut milk at the grocery store? Or, do I have to order from somewhere? I think I'm going to try it in my next mix. Sent from my Speak & Spell using LHCF
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I just use the grocery store brand in the can. They also have them at Walmart. Coconut milk has proteins too so be sure to DC after. It makes my henna mix thick, rich and perfectly smooth. I have tried it with coconut water once and I like that even better. It seems more moisturizing than the milk. But I think my hair's reaction to products all depends on what it needs at the time.

Sooo...MileHighDiva
Have you tried your first henna yet?? How is it going? Are you having any problems? Feel free to ask questions

I LOVE this HHJ!!
 
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Here's my (longwinded) $.02:
* First off, there's no such thing as "black" henna. Henna only comes in one color: red. I tried to look up the ingredients of the Hemani henna brand you mentioned but hit a wall. I would hesitate to purchase anything I couldn't read the full ingredients list for, especially henna. When they have the different pre-mixed "blends" some companies actually add metallic salts for better color processing (but these metals can later wreak havoc in your hair strands if you use a commercial dye or give you a nasty allergic reaction). Most likely, this brand you mentioned has a premix of "indigo" (which some people refer to as "black henna"). So just keep that in mind before using this product, and I'd recommend: http://www.hennaforhair.com/faq/index.html as a good starting point for you to do your own research. One thing that makes me leery is the 30-40 minute processing time, and other's can chime in but that, for me, is unheard of for any significant or noticeable results using 100% natural dye. You also mentioned it is "safe for drawing on hands" so it COULD be BAQ, but I don't use anything that doesn't specifically state that. After all, who didn't draw on themselves with Sharpies at some point in their life? And I wouldn't exactly call Sharpies Body Art Quality marker.

*Secondly, DO A PATCH TEST. I can't stress enough how much doing a patch test, or tests on shed hair that you save, can really save you from a bad henna experience. Henna is definitely not for everyone, but I think it's possible to realize that with very little hair heartbreak. Doing a patch test will also tell you exactly what you will get with your henna mix before you attempt a full head application.

*CurlyNikki describes her henna experience as "an orange crayon on black construction paper" and I couldn't agree more. That has been my experience, only a "red" or "auburn" crayon. Some people get more "orangey" tones and some get more "reddish." This varies depending on the brand, but also the mix, and your own unique hair chemistry, I think. Some people definitely get more dramatic color results, but my own is just a reddish halo/sheen in natural/very good light. For the most part, my hair is just shinier. I will say that my hairline has always had a honey brown/dark blond color and with the henna it is unmistakably auburn.

* I don't process my henna with "boiling" liquid. From my research, very hot liquid has the potential to destroy certain beneficial properties of the mixture. I think most people who use "boiling" liquid do so for faster processing (they're in a hurry), but for myself (and what I'd guess is a lot of ladies on this thread) time is rarely an issue. I personally like to give my henna plenty of time to dye release, so I'll let my mixtures sit for several hours, overnight, or longer. I get excellent results practically every time. I use warm/very warm liquid, no temperature I couldn't comfortably drink.

*posters ^^^ listed a chart of different ratios of indigo to henna in mixes. So, if your dye is natural, most likely it's indigo giving it that color. Black walnut hull can also give very dark/black tints to your mix. There's loads of recipes for different color variations. Keep in mind that anything that wouldn't stain your skin/counter is not going to be an effective dye for hair. Natural dyes essentially work by staining. Also, the effects of henna tend to be cumulative. I'm coming up on my 2 year anniversary of using it FREQUENTLY and only in the last 6-8 months have gotten "noticeable" color change (and some people think I'm imagining the tint, so that should give you a clue on how subtle the color changes can be).

*Re: curl loosening/manageability: I think it's the weight of the dye particles that lend to this effect for some people. I have noticed more manageable, stronger hair, but no changes in texture or curl pattern. I think most people who have curl pattern issues are S-curls (looser/wavier patterns) but coily girls like myself don't have that issue as often. Then again, only time can really tell.

HTH! :-)

sparkle25 said:
I've never used henna before but I am interested in it for the hair strenthening properties and also possible loosening my curl patturn. I just want more manageable hair... I do not want to die my hair red and I will only use indigo if I have to... I went to my henna USA and saw a brand of henna called Hemani. It is supposedly pure henna with something added to get the black color... Here are the dispcriptions on product page... Method of Application: Pour Henna Powder into a bowl. Add Boiling water gradually then stir slowly until you get a creamy thick liquid. Apply the mixture over Dry Clean Hair and keep it for 30-40 minutes then wash properly....The paste can also ben applied on Dry Clean Hands in desired drawing...
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juliehp said:
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This chart shows the colors that can be achieved by mixing henna and indigo together before applying it to your hair. It's not the two step method.
Although, I think the chart is in reverse.
It should be:
85% Henna + 15% Indigo
75% Henna + 25% Indigo
60% Henna + 40% Indigo
50% Henna + 50% Indigo
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I saw this chart and thought the same thing.
 
mshoneyfly Yes, I'm loving being a new hennahead! My first treatment was on 7/11/13. The next one will be my fifth treatment. Henna has been a game changer for my fine strands, :yep:
 
I just threw some henna on my head. My mix was 2 cans of warm coconut milk, I box of red raj, half a package of henna for African hair, 3 tablespoons cassia, 3 tablespoons sukeysh, and 2 tablespoons of hibiscus powder.

I had previously detangled with mothers milk tea and extra marshmallow root and Oyin hair dew on the ends.

I will leave this on for 4 hours.

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MileHighDiva said:
HanaKuroi did you use the coconut milk for dye release?
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I get dye release from plain distilled water. I understand that coconut milk is slightly acidic but I have not noticed any difference.

I used coconut milk for the conditioning properties. The weather has been frightful, so I decided my hair would benefit from the coconut milk.

I have not been using my ayurvedics lately either. I figured I should stop being so lazy.

I love henna days. I usually stay in and catch up on chores or pamper myself.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
Using Jamila henna for the first time! Mixed it with warm coconut water to thick paste consistency with a plastic spoon in glass four cup measuring cup. Putting it to sit for 6-7 hrs, then I will add lavender essential oil and coconut milk right before applying it to my hair. Will sleep in it tonight and washout sometime tomorrow. It was extremely creamy to mix. My first time using coconut water as well. I normally use Godrej Nupur Mehendi 9 Herbs mixed with chamomile citrus or Red Zinger tea. Can't wait to see the difference between them color and washout!!!

The water that I use is rainwater to wash my hair. In the islands, it's common to use water caught from the roof and stored in cisterns under the house. We have cisterns instead of basements. :)

I noticed a huge difference between water here and water in the states in the way it reacted to my skin and hair. I prefer rainwater most defitely!
 
I finally put the henna in tonight. I added coconut milk and lavender eo to the original coconut milk mix. Yes, I procrastinated. Each night that I was ready, something came up, last night it was a ballet recital for my niece that slipped my mind, the nights before, too tired.
Applied it to freshly shampooed and clarified damp hair. The mix was thick, thicker than I usually use. Application was basically mess free! Each time I do it I get better at it. :). Did my stubborn patch of silver and front airline first, then moved from the back to the front in sections. I asked my DH to to wrap my head in Saran wrap very tight, put on 2 plastic caps, a lightweight turban, and 2 beanies to keep my head warm.
Now I'm in bed with a brown towel covering my pillow and reading until I fall asleep....
 
Almost had a set back yall. Last wk I henna-ed my hair, slapped on condish and did NOT detangle. Like in over a wk! Just bunned and slathered evco on it and oiled scalp with WGO in yellow bottle.

I had the foolish notion to henna my hair today, still haven't detangled. Applied full strength on roots and mixed excess w/TJ NS and marinated for about 7 hrs. I was scared to wash this ish out!

Cowashed w/suave trop coconut and detangled with TJNS. My ends were pretty stretched and didn't really need a lot of work but the top 3 inches needed that condish and a lot of patience. Have DC in, will bun and rinse out after work tomorrow. Crisis averted!
 
FollicleFanatic said:
Almost had a set back yall. Last wk I henna-ed my hair, slapped on condish and did NOT detangle. Like in over a wk! Just bunned and slathered evco on it and oiled scalp with WGO in yellow bottle. I had the foolish notion to henna my hair today, still haven't detangled. Applied full strength on roots and mixed excess w/TJ NS and marinated for about 7 hrs. I was scared to wash this ish out! Cowashed w/suave trop coconut and detangled with TJNS. My ends were pretty stretched and didn't really need a lot of work but the top 3 inches needed that condish and a lot of patience. Have DC in, will bun and rinse out after work tomorrow. Crisis averted!
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Whew!! FollicleFanatic Glad it worked out for you :)

I am texturized and bone straight on the ends. After a henna is the ONLY time I dont need to detangle. I always do a henna gloss; even on my gray hairs and it detangles my hair as I am applying the gloss. Mostly I dont detangle before applying and I can feel the tangles coming apart as I apply. Henna stretches my NG really well but I have never used it full strength. I saturate my entire head (including scalp) so that its like a thick masque.

I LOVE this HHJ!!

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My next gloss will be friday night before I braid my hair up again in yarn braids.
 
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The last time that I used Henna (last year), I used Jamilah Body Art Quality (like always) and it dried the he!! out of my hair. I think I got a bad batch because I was well on my way to being a HennaHead. As a result, I am scared to do it again. What type(s), batch(es) and distributor(s) are most of you using? Links appreciated.
 
mshoneyfly thanks! I never detangle before henna-ing either but my hair was already tangly. Almost like taking out braids then trying to shampoo. Uh no ma'am!

Using it full strength gives about the same results as a gloss IMO. However I base this on just adding a bit of condish to prepped henna, not with all the bells and whistles like oils, coc milk and such. It's also WAY easier to clean, just take the shower head and everything rinses away clean :-)
 
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rawsilk said:
The last time that I used Henna (last year), I used Jamilah Body Art Quality (like always) and it dried the he!! out of my hair. I think I got a bad batch because I was well on my way to being a HennaHead. As a result, I am scared to do it again. What type(s), batch(es) and distributor(s) are most of you using? Links appreciated.
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Awe man, I wanted to try this brand too. Now I'm scared. I've only used Reshma purchased from my local Indian store.

I like Reshma a lot. It stains my hair and strengthens it too. But I was curious about other brands. I guess I will just stick with what I know and what works for my hair.
 
Next week I'll be Chelating my hair to prep for my Monthly Hendigo Gloss treatment :yay:!

My hair is chocolate brown with a red tinge and I FLIPPIN' LOVE IT! Last time I only used only 100 Grams total (50 g of Henna and 50 g of Indigo). This time I'll be probably be using a full 100 g's of both.
 
My hair is orange after the henna I did a month ago..at first I didn't notice it but it is strong!! (Even out of the sunlight). I've never got so much color from henna..
This is what I did different
I mixed the henna with warm water and let it sit for 24hrs+ (out if laziness).
I kept the henna on overnight for 10+ hours
I think the long dye release helped with the color deposit..
 
Sitting here with henna + indigo in my hair. I mixed the henna w orange juice and let it sit overnight. Mixed the indigo w water in the morning and applied.

Results: light brown coverage of my grays. Very nice!!
 

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im so torn, I want to color my hair because I desperately want a change, lol, but I planned on starting to use Henna ( I bought 4 bags of the Nupur one). So now I'm thinking if I should dye my hair to my desired color and then start Henna afterwards. I've been researching that it's not a good idea to Henna first and then dye later.
 
How soon after a relaxer is it safe to henna? I just did my touchup last night and wanted to henna next weekend to impart some strength in my hair, but not sure if that's too soon.
 
tapioca_pudding said:
How soon after a relaxer is it safe to henna? I just did my touchup last night and wanted to henna next weekend to impart some strength in my hair, but not sure if that's too soon.
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KaramelDiva1978 said:
I've done it on the same day with no issues.
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I've relaxed a day before and a day after at different times and I had no issues as well and only because my henna days are wayyyy too long to relax on the same day so I agree with KaramelDiva1978 about having no issues.
 
I think Henna is gonna be a keeper for me... I love how my hair feels after using it just once. Fuller, atronger, thicker...I love it :-)
 
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