Is hair texture the new paper bag test???

[BeetleBug]

That was funny! I don't think people are lying all the time though. The hair typing thing is too confusing and we all need to back away from it.

No one on this planet has Ceebee3 hair but me, so I'm going to learn how to best care for my hair while sharing and enjoying everyone else's progress at the same time.

Shoot, it might even be denial. You have no curls or even coils and you're claiming type 3. I guess whatever makes you sleep better at night.

 

[LadyRaider]

Actually it'd be cool if someone had an example/link of someone with 4 whatever hair getting less attention than someone with 3 something hair on the forum. Because I am a newbie and can't really tell the difference in textures. All y'all look pretty cute to me.

 

[Mz.MoMo5235]

wow, are you serious. that's crazy.

yes ma'am, very much so. my great grandma told me and my cousins about it 1st cause they was teasing me for being so dark (i was extra black that summer lol playing hard!). i'm the darkest one on my moms side, but the main bully that day who is about j.lo's complexion (when doing movies, not videos. cause you no j.lo sprays on the tan when she wants us bopping to her music), hazel eyes but 4b hair she kept in braids. grams pointed out that i would be allowed places she couldnt. asked her if she would have liked that and proceeded to pop them for being mean. then i got popped for being a baby cry.

but then as adults that same cousin took a course in school about puerto ricos african background and it mentioned that along with the paper bag (that bag crossed waters yall) and felt the need to call me way out in az to remind me about it. so grams wasnt making it up.

 

[dynamic1]

How does one know someone is "lying" about their texture and not just "mistaken" about their texture. The hair typing system is arbitrary and confusing...people randomly adding categories, cross categories, wide ranges, etc. As another person indicated, I see more type 3's (by Andre's definition) claiming type 4.

Additionally, the only person that has to like your hair is you. No amount of praise and positive feedback on earth will matter, if you do not like it. I have yet to notice the disparity mentioned regarding big choppers. Maybe I am not looking for it. People have preferences, why take it personally? I prefer thick hair; does that bother people as much as texture preference does? What about hair color preference or length preference?

 

[CurlTalk]

I'm just asking. Could the same be said for people with long hair vs. us short haired people? I see more oooh and ahhh over long hair than hair texture. Hair texture-- who cares? If you don't like yours relax it.

I don't have a dog in the hunt. People tell me I can't tell my hair texture until I cut off my relaxed ends which I'm not doing for a while, so I have no idea what mine is. My momma said I had good hair though. ETA: And if everyone's momma had told them the same thing, we'd all be better off.

IMO, hair length has more to do with care and dedication than anything else. We admire longer hair because we know what it took to get there.
Hair texture on the other hand is something that no matter how much time, dedication, or care put into it cannot be changed. It's more a part of someone than hair length, and so is a touchier thing when one person's is lauded over another's.

 

[poookie]

How does one know someone is "lying" about their texture and not just "mistaken" about their texture. The hair typing system is arbitrary and confusing...people randomly adding categories, cross categories, wide ranges, etc. As another person indicated, I see more type 3's (by Andre's definition) claiming type 4.

Additionally, the only person that has to like your hair is you. No amount of praise and positive feedback on earth will matter, if you do not like it. I have yet to notice the disparity mentioned regarding big choppers. Maybe I am not looking for it. People have preferences, why take it personally? I prefer thick hair; does that bother people as much as texture preference does? What about hair color preference or length preference?

thick hair is another thing i noticed on this board. the general consensus is to immediately chop hair off where it's thin, so it'll grow in thick. but some people naturally have sparse or thin hair, & if they chop it, it'll just grow back thin.

that was my case, & the main reason why i never posted my length shots when i was APL. my relaxed hair was thin & see-through due mostly to my fine hair & not poor hair care practices, & i remember reading a post about "how ugly thin hair is" it was hurtful.

i also notice ladies with long thick hair get much more "thanks" than long thin haired ladies when they meet their goals.

every length goal met deserves congratulations

 

[LadyRaider]

IMO, hair length has more to do with care and dedication than anything else. We admire longer hair because we know what it took to get there.
Hair texture on the other hand is something that no matter how much time, dedication, or care put into it cannot be changed. It's more a part of someone than hair length, and so is a touchier thing when one person's is lauded over another's.

I understand, CurlTalk. And I see that. But there are newbies that come in here with APL hair and talking about how they were just learning to do their hair... I think some people DO just luck out with hair that gets longer too. Makes me more jealous than hair texture.

 

[locabouthair]

thick hair is another thing i noticed on this board. the general consensus is to immediately chop hair off where it's thin, so it'll grow in thick. but some people naturally have sparse or thin hair, & if they chop it, it'll just grow back thin.

that was my case, & the main reason why i never posted my length shots when i was APL. my relaxed hair was thin & see-through due mostly to my fine hair & not poor hair care practices, & i remember reading a post about "how ugly thin hair is" it was hurtful.
i also notice ladies with long thick hair get much more "thanks" than long thin haired ladies when they meet their goals.

every length goal met deserves congratulations

I remember looking at your album picks and your hair looked pretty thick to me.

 

[yeswecan]

I mention my hair type to get feedback from ppl who have a similar hair experience, sometime ppl who dont have my degree of kink/coil/napp just don't have a clue what I'm going through, other than that, drama is not my thing, I only have time and energy for positivity and improvement

 

[ceebee3]

thick hair is another thing i noticed on this board. the general consensus is to immediately chop hair off where it's thin, so it'll grow in thick. but some people naturally have sparse or thin hair, & if they chop it, it'll just grow back thin.

that was my case, & the main reason why i never posted my length shots when i was APL. my relaxed hair was thin & see-through due mostly to my fine hair & not poor hair care practices, & i remember reading a post about "how ugly thin hair is" it was hurtful.

i also notice ladies with long thick hair get much more "thanks" than long thin haired ladies when they meet their goals.

every length goal met deserves congratulations

I can't believe people listen to that. People are seriously cutting their hair to make it thicker when your hair does not all grow in at the same length at the same time.

That does not make sense. Yall better put those scissors down!!!!

 

[locabouthair]

I can't believe people listen to that. People are seriously cutting their hair to make it thicker when your hair does not all grow in at the same length at the same time.

That does not make sense. Yall better put those scissors down!!!!

I agree.

But honestly, sometimes it needs to be cut. I'm not talking about anyone on the board. But when my hair broke off badly and people kept constantly asking me what happened to it, I knew those ends had to go.

 

[Cali*Rocks]

IMO, hair length has more to do with care and dedication than anything else. We admire longer hair because we know what it took to get there.
Hair texture on the other hand is something that no matter how much time, dedication, or care put into it cannot be changed. It's more a part of someone than hair length, and so is a touchier thing when one person's is lauded over another's.

Exactly!!! I don;t like when people are praised for something they had nothing to do with. When I posted my bc pics I was applauded for having hair that looked really healthy. 3 Hair has more of a shine to it, not by something "I" personally did

 

[sylver2]

nothing to add to that paper bag topic but
i never see anyone saying they are a type 3 when they are a type 4. I do however see many type 3s saying they are type 4's.
for me personally hair type plays a big role. When i was natural i could not understand why my hair would not mimic Jasmine Guy's, Chilli, Michael Michelle, Rae Dawn Ching, etc no matter how hard i followed their regimens and products. Never realized my hair was more like Oprahs, angela bassetts,aaliyah etc. had i known might of stayed natural and able to find what was right for my hair. now as a relaxed type 4 , type still plays big role. it still won't do what type 3s relaxed or natural do. this is for me personally. my own opinion.

 

[MrsAriannaAmbers]

I can't begin to figure out what my hair type is to save my life..So when ya'll be talking hair types...I'm always lost...I think for one I have been relaxing my hair for so long I never got to know my natural hair or what it is...I just did a mini BC on the relaxed ends so I can start figuring out what type it is...since I am transitioning...At this time I just look at ya'lls pics and try to pick the one closest to mine...

If hair typing is serious to someone...where they call someone out or they are lying about their own...maybe it might just be the person's overall attitude/persona and its probably not just limited to hair. I believe true hair lovers as myself think all hair is beautiful...I don't care about the type

***walks away feeling some kind of ways...feeling like I can marry ya'lls fotikis and hair siggys***

 

[ceebee3]

I agree.

But honestly, sometimes it needs to be cut. I'm not talking about anyone on the board. But when my hair broke off badly and people kept constantly asking me what happened to it, I knew those ends had to go.

I totally understand getting rid of damaged hair but to cut your healthy hair because it's longer and appears thinner than the restof your hair is crazy.

The only time I would consider that is to maintain my goal length, not while I'm trying to get there.

 

[ChristmasCarol]

I'm always on the lookout for hairporn, so when I see a reveal/progress/BC thread with 600 views - I'm in there. Not because I think the person has a certain type hair, I'm just tryin' to see what's goin' on up in there. I know the ladies of LHCF, so I know the hair must be on point (or a gif.gate is occuring). Of course, I'll leave thanks if I go into the thread to see the pics.

It's like if you go to the mall and one store has hundreds of customers, you're gonna go see what the hype is about. Numbers attract more numbers. If another store only has the clerk and one customer, you probably won't feel the need to rush in. That said, I think the higher views and posts count attract even more members and then they in turn leave even more "Thanks"...maybe.

 

[Skiggle]

This is another reason why I suspect
alot of people with 4b, c, z hair textures won't
go natural or show pics.
Hell, I'm one of them. *I'm learning to accept my texture now*
I read in another thread when a poster
wrote how she hated coily hair and prefers
noticeable coils/curls. My stomach immediately felt .
There is a inner
dislike/hatred for this texture and thus there will always be a battle of
"good hair".
Have you ever seen a thread like "WOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR 3 a b c TEXTURE TO A KINKIER TEXTURE".. I know DEEP DOWN that most people WILL NOT want hair that is lower than 4a.
Look at tv commercials, newspaper/magzaines ad...
and notice the black women...curls, curls....
the truth lies everywhere..

*Sorry for this long post, but I'm just telling
it like it is*

 

[happylife]

Can't brow beat people from lusting over something they personally deem beautiful by making them feel guilty about it. Ever. Its like trying to make a gay person not gay. You just like what you like. No explanation should be needed.

Not one word can fall from your mouth or type with your fingers will ever make a hill of beans difference. It is what it is.

 

[glamazon386]

Hair texture has always gone hand in hand with the paper bag test.

 

[claudia05]

Have you ever seen a thread like "WOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR 3 a b c TEXTURE TO A KINKIER TEXTURE".. I know DEEP DOWN that most people WILL NOT want hair that is lower than 4a.

Higher than 4a . It bothers me when people refer to type 3 as higher than type 4...

 

[ChristmasCarol]

Higher than 4a . It bothers me when people refer to type 3 as higher than type 4...

I see this statement alot too...I thought the number 4 was higher than the number 3.

 

[claudia05]

I see this statement alot too...I thought the number 4 was higher than the number 3.

Says a lot sadly...

 

[Pompous Blue]

Higher than 4a . It bothers me when people refer to type 3 as higher than type 4...

I see this statement alot too...I thought the number 4 was higher than the number 3.

My "thanks" wasn't enough.

Thank you for saying this. I was confused. Maybe they think 3 is a better hair texture than 4 by saying 4 is lower than 3.

Just an observation.

 

[claudia05]

My "thanks" wasn't enough.

Thank you for saying this. I was confused. Maybe they think 3 is a better hair texture than 4 by saying 4 is lower than 3.

Just an observation.

Bingo. Freudian slip...

 

[yeswecan]

love your hair love yourself do your best with what you have I think I'm a 4c/z? I have dryness issues I'm 1mnth in at this site and I love my natural hair so happy for the love support and info to help me be the best that I can. When I say texturize to hairdressers they bonestraight my crowning glory and I always have to grow it out so this time with product knowledge I wont have to give up or give in to what does not work for me hair type is just info based thats why everyone is on this site all types natural texlaxed and relaxed dont be mad at each other just get what you need

 

[ChristmasCarol]

I don't want to be quick to infer anything about anyone, but if you made a list like this:

1.
2.
3.
4.

Then, yeah, type 1 is higher (on the list)

I guess we can ALL find something to be offended (or simply perplexed) by, if we look hard enough.

 

[SVT]

I don't want to be quick to infer anything about anyone, but if you made a list like this:

1.
2.
3.
4.

Then, yeah, type 1 is higher (on the list)

I guess we can ALL find something to be offended (or simply perplexed) by, if we look hard enough.

I didn't look hard at all but neither am I offended.

 

[claudia05]

I don't want to be quick to infer anything about anyone, but if you made a list like this:

1.
2.
3.
4.

Then, yeah, type 1 is higher (on the list)

I guess we can ALL find something to be offended (or simply perplexed) by, if we look hard enough.

Andre's system measures degree/tightness of texture, not place. 4 is highest.

 

[chrisanddonniesmommy]

i think she was referring to posters without type3 hair

Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks!!

If they don't have it, they want it or somehow convince themselves they have it. It's strange.

 

[ChristmasCarol]

I didn't look hard at all but neither am I offended.

I was only trying to see BOTH sides of the whole higher/lower 3/4 thing. But I guess it didn't come out right.