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Lexib said:
Well you know likewise, I (speaking for relaxed heads) can choose to wear my hair straight OR wear a really tight braid out to mimick my natural texture...then wash it out and go back to being straight again.


Just a style choice.
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People don't want to understand/embrace that idea. :nono: I've had naturals ask me if I was natural when I wore braidouts/twistouts...
 
I've always been under the impression that a hair style is temporary and can change day to day. Relaxed hair is relaxed for good once the chemical has been applied to it. I don't know if I would call that a style.
 
Mortons said:
I've always been under the impression that a hair style is temporary and can change day to day. Relaxed hair is relaxed for good once the chemical has been applied to it. I don't know if I would call that a style.
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Until relaxed hair grows out of my scalp, I would consider it a style. :yep: Applying a relaxer on your hair doesn't cause your hair to grow in relaxed...
 
So if the important thing to remember from this discussion is that relaxing doesn't always mean self hate and being natural doesn't always mean self love, does that mean the whole point of this conversation is to hate on people who already hate themselves? :look: Now THAT'S a low blow.
 
Lexib said:
Well you know likewise, I (speaking for relaxed heads) can choose to wear my hair straight OR wear a really tight braid out to mimick my natural texture...then wash it out and go back to being straight again.


Just a style choice.
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I agree. I've been saying this for the longest.
 
gabulldawg said:
Until relaxed hair grows out of my scalp, I would consider it a style. :yep: Applying a relaxer on your hair doesn't cause your hair to grow in relaxed...
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No it does not. My point was it is a permanent change to your hair. And most women here are not relaxing it just to cut it off, we intend to keep out hair (i.e. our length goals). So a permanent change is not a style, its, well, permanent.
 
I've been natural for 14 years and I was really shocked to find that there was this natural or relaxed war raging online. I think beautiful hair is beautiful hair. It's just a choice. Some naturals like straight hair but choose to straighten with means other than a relaxer. Some naturals are against straightening, at all. Either way, it's just what you like. Not what's right on some global scale. Just what's right for that person. Like the difference between liking heels or flats. Or wearing dresses or dress slacks. *shrug* Not really that big a deal.

I love my fro and I love when my hair is straight. It's just a matter of deciding what makes the most sense for me in terms of how often I want to wear my hair straight. Right now, I'm on the grow and rocking protective styles constantly. It matters not what my hair looks like straight nor do I wear it this way. So I'm natural, for now, as I have been for many years; until further notice.
 
J'adoreHair said:
ITA, however...I wouldn't care...and I wouldn't try to make people who relax should not be talking because of this, and of that and all of that...just because a natural goes through struggles doesn't mean everybody has to go natural to make what statement? Naturals go thru struggles but it has nothing to do with my creamy crack! :lol:
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You wouldn't care about people insulting you to your face? From the time you were a child? Apparently, you're a much better woman than I am.

And, I didn't say that just because a natural goes through struggles that everyone else should be natural. I can't control and don't desire to control what other people do to their hair. In fact, everyone being natural wouldn't change a thing because the people who relax would just burn their hair straight, or BKT it, or weave it up to get the look they desire and they would still belittle those who choose to rock their natural coils, kinks, and curls.

My point is that it would be nice if people were not so rude and nasty about natural hair. And if you are going to be rude and nasty, keep it to yourself because I don't want to hear it.
 
gabulldawg said:
Some people are really playing themselves and think they are playing others. :nono: You have "rainbows" growing out of your head and I have "weeds" growing out of mine, and I'm supposed to sit here and look foolish just so I can embrace my heritage. :rolleyes:
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I screamed laughin at this.

Foolish I say! :lachen:

BTW - I meant to tell ya I dig the hair cut. :up:

gabulldawg said:
I've gone the natural route, and after trial and error, came to the conclusion that it's not for me.
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What I think is different about this thread is that there are quite a few people posting who were natural - went through the stages of being natural that other people did, but our natural experience doesn't seem to count because we ended it.
 
msa said:
You wouldn't care about people insulting you to your face? From the time you were a child? Apparently, you're a much better woman than I am.

And, I didn't say that just because a natural goes through struggles that everyone else should be natural. I can't control and don't desire to control what other people do to their hair. In fact, everyone being natural wouldn't change a thing because the people who relax would just burn their hair straight, or BKT it, or weave it up to get the look they desire and they would still belittle those who choose to rock their natural coils, kinks, and curls.

My point is that it would be nice if people were not so rude and nasty about natural hair. And if you are going to be rude and nasty, keep it to yourself because I don't want to hear it.
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Oh, I didn't know this was about rude and nastiness, I thought it was about overly curious people, in that case you have all the right.
 
J'adoreHair said:
Oh, I didn't know this was about rude and nastiness, I thought it was about overly curious people, in that case you have all the right.
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Girl no, I LOVE curious people. When people ask me questions I get to spread all my natural love.

I don't like questions like: "When are you going to comb your hair?"..."why did you walk out of the house looking like that?"..."you know you don't have the kind of hair that you can just wash and go right?"...and anything else of that nature said with a stank face and a flip of their dirty brown, funky, flaky, crispy relaxed hair.
 
This discussion is so silly, especially in this day and age, when we , as black people are going through so much in society. But we are not satisfied. We need to fight amongst ourselves about relaxed or natural hair. Neither one is better. Being relaxed is a choice and it doesn't mean we hate ourselves. And being natural is a choice and naturals are no better than relaxed haired people. We need to start respecting each other, and each other's choices.


This Reminds me of the jiggaboos and the wannabes, from Spike Lee's old movie School Daze.
 
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So last night I relaxed my hair. I've been texlaxing every three months. I was thinking of transitioning to natural since my texlaxed hair looked like my natural hair. For months I've been going back and forth with my decision between relaxed or natural

Oddly enough, because of this discussion I decided to go ahead and relax. Weird huh.
 
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^^^great!! do what you gotta do! at the end of the day, you are happy! So, now for the ladies on this thread, what exactly caused you to make this choice? Well see how one of many really feels when they make that decision to relax (and yes I know we all have different reasons). Just curious.
 
**kandi** said:
So last night I relaxed my hair. I've been texlaxing every three months. I was thinking of transitioning to natural since my texlaxed hair look like my natural hair. For months I've been going back and forth with my decision between relaxed or natural

Oddly enough, because of this discussion I decided to go ahead and relax. Weird huh.
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Okay for those keeping score..

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For the relaxers :yep:
 
Denise11 said:
This discussion is so silly, especially in this day and age, when we , as black people are going through so much in society. But we are not satisfied. We need to fight amongst ourselves about relaxed or natural hair. Neither one is better. Being relaxed is a choice and it doesn't mean we hate ourselves. And being natural is a choice and naturals are no better than relaxed haired people. We need to start respecting each other, and each other's choices.


This Reminds me of the jiggaboos and the wannabes, from Spike Lee's old movie School Daze.
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People keep bringing up that movie. Why do you think it was included in the movie? Because these are issues that have been around for decades. And they'll still be here 100 years from now.

And yes, there are other important things going on in the world. But this discussion is not silly for me because as a black person with natural hair in this society I go through a lot. Of course you wouldn't understand that because your "hairstyle" is accepted and considered better than mine.
 
Relaxed hair can be beautiful, natural hair can be beautiful...WE OF ALL PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND THAT....:grouphug: I hate family fights!!!!
 
Rosie8604 said:
So this is a competition now? Lol, o... k.
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It's always been a competition...no matter what state your hair is in it don't mean a thang if you ain't got that swang.

ETA: Joking. Not being serious.
 
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msa said:
People keep bringing up that movie. Why do you think it was included in the movie? Because these are issues that have been around for decades. And they'll still be here 100 years from now.

And yes, there are other important things going on in the world. But this discussion is not silly for me because as a black person with natural hair in this society I go through a lot. Of course you wouldn't understand that because your "hairstyle" is accepted and considered better than mine.
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It wouldn't have to go on forever if people would just stop acting petty. And just because you go through a lot because of your hair, doesn't mean that you have the right to try to torture others because of how you feel.

Some of you naturals act like bullies that try to put other people (relaxed haired people) down, so that you'll feel better about yourselves.
 
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