Ateyaa from You Tube

[gorgeoushair]

yeah Ateyaa said let it go, so why is it even still being brought up? her video addressed it sufficiently, now she is just getting some hate comments on that blog too. It really wasnt that serious.

eta: the words used on that blog 'we took offense' , 'we gathered our forces to attack' we 'harassed & hounded' her? WOW! thats a lil exaggerated dontcha think?

I'm thinking that SR put it into her own words.

 

[gorgeoushair]

In one of her videos (I forget which one) she states that after she uses the 2 Minute Reconstructer she uses the Balancing Moisturizer. Also, Aphogee products aren't the only products she uses. She is also a fan of Paul Mitchell(Tee Tree Line) products and a few others so I guess she gets a good mixture of both protein and moisture.

She uses the Balancing Moisturizer after the Aphogee hardcore protein treatment.

 

[gorgeoushair]

That's what i said! I finally saw her videos to see what all the hoopla is about and in nearly all her vid's, she stresses that "this is what I use", "this is what I do for MY hair" and "i use these makeup products because its what I like and choose to use for MY skin."

Anything else she said, she was reading verbatim from the back of the bottle.

After all that stressing and clarification, folks STILL made rude comments about what is wrong or right about her haircare.

Tell me why would u change what's been working for you and givin' your hair that swing just cause someone else thinks its not right?

Girl this is what I know but some people still don't get it

 

[gorgeoushair]

is lhcf not supposed to say anything but positive things because a newbie can get more info elsewhere? imo, if lhcf was like that, there would be no point to it. if i'm in a thread regarding a product/technique/video, i appreciate a rounded view of it (i.e - a mixed bag of reviews).

it's good thing she said her techniques were not for everybody. however, you have huge numbers of black women looking at that vid like and thinking they could get hair like hers if they followed her reggie. newbies especially are desperate for change and can jump into things too quickly. if lhcf helps them weigh up the pros and cons of this reggie before they try it then that's a positive thing.

i have no problems with those with more knowledge of hair care following the reggie or doing any other "controversial" thing because they know their hair. however, on lhcf, we are able to give different views to help our newbies learn. i thought that was partially the purpose of a hair-board.

ateya shouldn't be forced to stop doing vids but if people can help others understand why her reggie or techniques may or may not be for them then that's great, imo.

The same w/LHCF....you have huge numbers of black women on here, looking at siggy pics and going to people's fotki's admiring their hair and maybe deciding to follow their regimen making them think their hair can get like whomever fotki their admiring. So how is admiring Ateya's hair and following her regimen different from admiring and following someone that is on LHCF?

 

[Priss Pot]

she's kind to fulfil a request but obligated she is not. i'm not bothered if she feels she shouldn't do a request. people critiquing are not saying she needs to stop doing her videos. however, she's responsible for what she puts out there in the public arena. imo, one should only do videos where they knows what their doing. this video is fine because everything works for her. it's tried and tested for her. however, she did the relaxer video because it was requested yet made some errors and admitted she doesn't ordinarily do her own relaxers. it's ok she doesn't know how to do them but that doesn't mean she's justified in putting the vid out there. direct the fans to another vid, film your stylist etc. there were other options. being honest about your abilities needs to come before kindness and "loyalty" to fans when you put out videos of that nature and know people will follow.




what if the extent of some people's research is youtube alone? actually, never mind them. we're focusing on people who want to follow ateya's reggie but are on lhcf too. for research to be there to find, someone needs to have said something regarding the subject matter. if one wants to find out if ateya's reggie is a great one, this is a fantastic thread for them. why make the journey to increasing one's knowledge harder?

lhcf is a place where we're supposed to help people and people are doing that in this thread, imo. it's worth mentioning that we have many lurkers here that aren't able to search and many members are overwhelmed by the search feature. typing in "ateya" and seeing this thread is awesome for them.

re: overlapping - some people really do not know it's bad. they see ateya with gorgeous looking hair and may presume overlapping may not be that big of a deal.

how many of us have jumped onto bandwagons without all of that extensive resarch? plenty. see it on the boards every day. to some, ateya is a bandwagon and people should be given a well rounded picture.



hmmm...no-one has claimed to be perfect. must we all be perfect in order to critique? that doesn't make sense in my world, tbh. we are all here to learn and teach. that means that we don't know all of the answers but we do share our knowledge.

fotki/youtube and lhcf are not the same. if people were supposed to keep their mouths shut on lhcf regarding a technique or product because it was negative, this place would be utterly pointless and empty. people here are supposed to comment respectfully (good or bad review) instead of just k.i.m-ing like one may do on fotki. fotki isn't the right medium for someone to make unsolicited comments about a reggie. on lhcf, you except comments on the subject matter of the thread. fotki is of a different nature entirel0y.



if you give out "bad" advice on a board with 40,000 members and plenty of lurkers, you deserve to be questioned and "put on front street", imo. many people are reading your words so you are responsible for the information you put out there. it only makes sense that someone may make a comment. if that "bad" practice is what "works for you" then that's cool. however, that doesn't mean other people do not have the right to inform other members of the consequences that "bad" practice may result it.

like i've said many times, we are here to learn and teach...

Tocktick, I think we all should just let it go. People will never understand. If you critique someone's regimen, you're deemed a hater and it equals to you disliking that person .

I wish that most of the women who admire her videos, know that her regimen just may not work on their hair. What if her (the subscriber) hair is in horrible shape? And she starts using all of that heat and thinking her hair will look like Ateya's? I mean seriously. People need to look at some of the videos that Ateya fans are making in regards to trying her regimen. One girl I saw...can you say thin thin thin thin stringy hair? Balding edges? But yet she still proceeded to glue in tracks because Ateya did it? I was watching that video like "are you serious?"

I agree with another poster who said that this whole thing was blown out of proportion. No one was being downright nasty to Ateya or calling her bad names or insulting her. People just like to read too much into things sometimes, as always...same person.....

 

[gorgeoushair]

I just don't want to cause a setback for the many people that look up to her.
If I have a setback,so what it is just me messing my self up.
But she is encouraging something wrong for thousands of people to follow.
And my regimine is in my profile, it is pretty basic, critique it all you want.

I understand you don't want anyone to have a setback but a person still can have a setback following someone's regimen from LHCFor LHCF practices. How is it any different? Whether a setback is caused from following Ateya's regimen or a LHCF regimen, at the end of a day it's still a setback.

 

[gorgeoushair]

Tocktick, I think we all should just let it go. People will never understand. If you critique someone's regimen, you're deemed a hater and it equals to you disliking that person .

I wish that most of the women who admire her videos, know that her regimen just may not work on their hair. What if her (the subscriber) hair is in horrible shape? And she starts using all of that heat and thinking her hair will look like Ateya's? I mean seriously. People need to look at some of the videos that Ateya fans are making in regards to trying her regimen. One girl I saw...can you say thin thin thin thin stringy hair? Balding edges? But yet she still proceeded to glue in tracks because Ateya did it? I was watching that video like "are you serious?"

I agree with another poster who said that this whole thing was blown out of proportion. No one was being downright nasty to Ateya or calling her bad names or insulting her. People just like to read too much into things sometimes, as always...same person.....

Some people were really rude.

 

[gorgeoushair]

Okay, this part right here brings back some memories.

Back when I was still relaxing, I really wanted to go natural, but couldn't get any decent info. I remember trying on my own, but I was using the wrong products and gave up.

At that time, LHCF was still in its infancy and had broke away from longhaircarelovers. There were only about maybe three or four hairboards on the net (nappyhair.com, naturallycurly.com, longhairlovers). Nappturality wasn't around yet. There used to be a member on here named Sweetcocoa. She was sooooo coool and had the most gorgeous natural hair. She was a 3c and I honestly thought that when I turned natural I would have that SAME hair texture. I was ignorant to the hairtyping system and it was a long time since I saw my REAL hair, so I didn't know whether or not it would turn out that way. Well, once I decided to do the natural thing again (due to the new info and the wonderful fotkis) I saw that my hair wasn't anywhere near hers, but I was STILL cool with it, because it meant that I could have a BAA one day.

I said all this to say THAT I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT NEWBIES BELIEVING THEIR HAIR WILL TURN OUT LIKE HERS, then be disappointed when it doesn't.

That's why peeps need to explore ALL AVENUES before hopping on a bandwagon.

Ateyaa also has a wonderful, fun personal that comes through in her videos, so you don't mind watching even if her techniques might be a bit off. At least, you're not bored.

I remember Sweetcocoa Beautiful hair

 

[20Pearls_Girl]

I like her hair. She sounds like Alexsys Tyler ...sorta country. Is she from Atlanta? Is that pink Chi iron temp regulated?

 

[MizzBrown]

Tocktick, I think we all should just let it go. People will never understand. If you critique someone's regimen, you're deemed a hater and it equals to you disliking that person .

I wish that most of the women who admire her videos, know that her regimen just may not work on their hair. What if her (the subscriber) hair is in horrible shape? And she starts using all of that heat and thinking her hair will look like Ateya's? I mean seriously. People need to look at some of the videos that Ateya fans are making in regards to trying her regimen. One girl I saw...can you say thin thin thin thin stringy hair? Balding edges? But yet she still proceeded to glue in tracks because Ateya did it? I was watching that video like "are you serious?"

I agree with another poster who said that this whole thing was blown out of proportion. No one was being downright nasty to Ateya or calling her bad names or insulting her. People just like to read too much into things sometimes, as always...same person.....

I read some of those posts on her YouTube vids and they DID get downright nasty. If those posts were made on here, then they would've been reported as well.

Also, I believe YouTube members have the right to remove/delete nasty posts on their vids so it gets worse than what we actually see.

I know because i see the comments from other posters talking about the OTHER poster making the comments but the comment is nowhere to be found because the member deleted it already.

Folks get nasty on here and we always wonder "what happened to so and so...i dont understand...she didnt say anything wrong..."...Yes she did, because the post got edited and/or reported.

Just like we have the authority to delete comments we don't like on our Fotki, right? And many of us have OPEN/ NO password Fotki's that the entire world can see.

 

[Priss Pot]

I read some of those posts on her YouTube vids and they DID get downright nasty. If those posts were made on here, then they would've been reported as well.

Also, I believe YouTube members have the right to remove/delete nasty posts on their vids so it gets worse than what we actually see.

I know because i see the comments from other posters talking about the OTHER poster making the comments but the comment is nowhere to be found because the member deleted it already.

Folks get nasty on here and we always wonder "what happened to so and so...i dont understand...she didnt say anything wrong..."...Yes she did, because the post got edited and/or reported.

Just like we have the authority to delete comments we don't like on our Fotki, right? And many of us have OPEN/ NO password Fotki's that the entire world can see.

I'm talking about the comments that were stated on HERE, LHCF....not YouTube. No one on LHCF was getting nasty with Ateya. LHCF has nothing to do with YouTube. What happens on YouTube is on YouTube. LHCF is not responsible and does not accept liability.

 

[MizzBrown]

I'm talking about the comments that were stated on HERE, LHCF....not YouTube. No one on LHCF was getting nasty with Ateya. LHCF has nothing to do with YouTube. What happens on YouTube is on YouTube. LHCF is not responsible and does not accept liability.

How do you know comments on here didn't get deleted or edited?

I just saw a random post the other day that got edited before my eyes.

 

[Priss Pot]

How do you know comments on here didn't get deleted or edited?

I just saw a random post the other day that got edited before my eyes.

Ummmmm because I was "there"? I was reading (and posting) in the thread as it was going on. The comments that people were referring to were only of constructive criticism (outside of one post where one poster mentioned something about it not being Ateya's real hair). Other than that, no one was insulting the girl.....but of course you had some people coming in throwing the "hater" tactics around. And then when Ateya made the "make things clear" video, her viewers assumed that everyone on LHCF was just hating on her.....not even knowing the real deal of what went down.

If I remember correctly, the majority of the women who were constructively criticizing her hair, had longer hair than hers....

So yeah, the "hater" stuff was really exaggerated, and the whole incident was blown out of proportion. No one doubts she has pretty hair...it's just her practices.

 

[SparklingFlame]

If my memory serves me correct, I recall some questionable comments, nah....downright rude comments on here as well.

 

[MizzBrown]

If my memory serves me correct, I recall some questionable comments, nah....downright rude comments on here as well.

Rudeness is subjective on this board. So is constructive criticism.

 

[gorgeoushair]

Ummmmm because I was "there"? I was reading (and posting) in the thread as it was going on. The comments that people were referring to were only of constructive criticism (outside of one post where one poster mentioned something about it not being Ateya's real hair). Other than that, no one was insulting the girl.....but of course you had some people coming in throwing the "hater" tactics around. And then when Ateya made the "make things clear" video, her viewers assumed that everyone on LHCF was just hating on her.....not even knowing the real deal of what went down.

If I remember correctly, the majority of the women who were constructively criticizing her hair, had longer hair than hers....

So yeah, the "hater" stuff was really exaggerated, and the whole incident was blown out of proportion. No one doubts she has pretty hair...it's just her practices.

Some people were rude on here.....that's why the thread was closed. People were insulting her regimen.

 

[Priss Pot]

Some people were rude on here.....that's why the thread was closed. People were insulting her regimen.

Keyword: regimen. Not "Ateya" as a person.

 

[SparklingFlame]

I have a strong suspicion that a lot of the nasty comments that we see posted on peoples YouTube vids that a member posts on the forum, come directly from LHCF.

For instance: the poor college student with almost APL hair was showing her reggie, homegirl got slaughtered over here and there were a LOT of nasty comments to coincide with the date and time of the thread here. Coincidence? Nah. Dont think so.

 

[gorgeoushair]

Keyword: regimen. Not "Ateya" as a person.

Whether it was her or her regimen, people were still rude-point blank.

 

[jada1111]

The same w/LHCF....you have huge numbers of black women on here, looking at siggy pics and going to people's fotki's admiring their hair and maybe deciding to follow their regimen making them think their hair can get like whomever fotki their admiring. So how is admiring Ateya's hair and following her regimen different from admiring and following someone that is on LHCF?

It's not. You take a chance on many things.

I've put about every type of crazy concoction in my hair at least ONCE due to someone saying it works fabulously for something or other only to find out that many of the homemade crap wasn't MY thing. This info came from the hairboards. I've bought Aveda products, because many naps would live and die by some of the products, but when I would use them MY hair would be a mess. Aveda was great when I was RELAXED, but I wasn't feeling it when I went natural. Not everything is for everybody.

You take the best and what DOES work for you and leave the rest behind. That's what we've all had to do.

Nobody is technically right or wrong. As we all know even many HAIRDRESSERS don't know what the hell they're talking about.

 

[gorgeoushair]

Keyword: regimen. Not "Ateya" as a person.

I know one person said I'm so sick of hearing this girl's name and that it was annoying. WTF... that was really rude and uncalled for and stupid. I mean, why would you post in an Ateya thread if she(her name) makes you sick and annoyed

 

[gorgeoushair]

It's not. You take a chance on many things.

I've put about every type of crazy concoction in my hair at least ONCE due to someone saying it works fabulously for something or other only to find out that many of the homemade crap wasn't MY thing. This info came from the hairboards. I've bought Aveda products, because many naps would live and die by some of the products, but when I would use them MY hair would be a mess. Aveda was great when I was RELAXED, but I wasn't feeling it when I went natural. Not everything is for everybody.

You take the best and what DOES work for you and leave the rest behind. That's what we've all had to do.

Nobody is technically right or wrong. As we all know even many HAIRDRESSERS don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Thank You I know I've had plenty of setbacks and I've been on this board almost since the beginning

 

[Paradox]

On a hair board it is a shared experience...like for example usually it takes me months to try something new( due to a careful personality) that i heard on board MSM, co washing, avc rinse, scalp massage, just 3 weeks ago i've tried biotin after reading a bunch of thread over a period of several months..then one day I decided to do the salt thing spontaneously and messed my hair up. BUT i had some help with the thread started about irrestistable, and all was well again. I feel that if someone messes up their hair at home, who will they tell?? probably no one since everyone loves ayetta.poor newbie won't know what to do.
I've still haven't tried henna, ovation, mega tek, carmel treatment, baking soda...I am still researching.lol.

 

[Divake22]

I know that henna is not my friend (boxes left in my freezers). My hair broke off and matted. I still have bottles of MTG left. The smell was not worth it, even though I used it for two months with no dramatic results. I bought BT and some for my mother which did not do much for me. I am, however, loving qhemet products and Paul Mitchell's tea tree shampoo.

I posted a thread about Ateya in June and thought she was using too much heat and a fine tooth comb, but she has gorgeous hair with a regi that works for her. I am surprised of the amount of threads on her since then. I didn't know she would be so controversial. We also have threads about hits/misses and overhyped products/methods all the time. I do not know why she is singled out as a poor example over and over again.

 

[jada1111]

I know that henna is not my friend (boxes left in my freezers). My hair broke off and matted. I still have bottles of MTG left. The smell was not worth it, even though I used it for two months with no dramatic results. I bought BT and some for my mother which did not do much for me. I am, however, loving qhemet products and Paul Mitchell's tea tree shampoo.

I posted a thread about Ateya in June and thought she was using too much heat and a fine tooth comb, but she has gorgeous hair with a regi that works for her. I am surprised of the amount of threads on her since then. I didn't know she would be so controversial. We also have threads about hits/misses and overhyped products/methods all the time. I do not know why she is singled out as a poor example over and over again.

I never heard of her until SR posted about her this week saying how LHCF made her life miserable. SR also has a problem with LHCF too. I watched a few of her videos (not all the way to the end mind you), but found nothing SCANDALOUS to warrant nasty comments.

She's now a "celebrity" of sorts, because SR has posted her TWICE already within two days. I don't know what happened or jumped off, but she probably has more fans NOW than she did before. The funny thing is she's not the only black chick on the net doing hair videos (relaxed or natural), so it does beg the question on why SHE'S being singled out and not others?

I wonder if it's because she doesn't give a damn about what her "haters" are saying and keeps doing her? Sometimes, this can antagonize peeps even more, especially those that believe THEIR WAY IS THE ONLY WAY.

 

[Paradox]

I never heard of her until SR posted about her this week saying how LHCF made her life miserable. SR also has a problem with LHCF too. I watched a few of her videos (not all the way to the end mind you), but found nothing SCANDALOUS to warrant nasty comments.

She's now a "celebrity" of sorts, because SR has posted her TWICE already within two days. I don't know what happened or jumped off, but she probably has more fans NOW than she did before. The funny thing is she's not the only black chick on the net doing hair videos (relaxed or natural), so it does beg the question on why SHE'S being singled out and not others?

I wonder if it's because she doesn't give a damn about what her "haters" are saying and keeps doing her? Sometimes, this can antagonize peeps even more, especially those that believe THEIR WAY IS THE ONLY WAY.

actually the first post I remember about her, was positive, because her hair was so nice and bouncy. we probably hadn't seen hair so bouncy on youtube
so she was already getting attention..so when she did the other video it was like wait a minute...

 

[Divake22]

She's now a "celebrity" of sorts, because SR has posted her TWICE already within two days. I don't know what happened or jumped off, but she probably has more fans NOW than she did before. The funny thing is she's not the only black chick on the net doing hair videos (relaxed or natural), so it does beg the question on why SHE'S being singled out and not others?

I wonder if it's because she doesn't give a damn about what her "haters" are saying and keeps doing her? Sometimes, this can antagonize peeps even more, especially those that believe THEIR WAY IS THE ONLY WAY.

True, dat. I think she is adorable.

 

[TaurusAngel]

Right!I love her personality! I feel like she's my friend now!LOL!
I didn't think she had that many unhealthy practices.Who has a perfect reggie?I love her hair,and i can see how some of her techniques can help me out
EDIT:I know i can't get my hair done like that at home
She's doing something that works
Love this girl!!!!

i agree. Everyone has something about their regi that works for them but could cause all types of drama to another. Everyone's hair is different.

Congratulations Ateyaaa,

You and your hair are the new Beyonce in this piece.

We are destined to have nine kazillion threads most of 'em locked on the back and forth of this chicks hair regimen.

And the end result will be the same. Some folks will be able to duplicate her swangability and some folks are going to end up bald. All that can be done is to put the pros and cons out there and let people make up their own minds.

I agree. just like Baggying and air drying. No heat caused my hair to break and baggying caused me to have split ends. like i have said, everything ain't for everybody. We all know that, so why the continuous debate over Ateyaa's? Baggying and Air drying get recommended to people all day everyday, and Ateyaa isn't pushing her regi off on anyone.

HELLO... I had WL hair in high school and curled my pony tail and bangs daily....lol! I tried the air dry; it's ok for when I'm not going somewhere...

Air drying just didn't work for me. i tried and tried it and it broke my hair off and i had to get a trim.

Ummmmm because I was "there"? I was reading (and posting) in the thread as it was going on. The comments that people were referring to were only of constructive criticism (outside of one post where one poster mentioned something about it not being Ateya's real hair). Other than that, no one was insulting the girl.....but of course you had some people coming in throwing the "hater" tactics around. And then when Ateya made the "make things clear" video, her viewers assumed that everyone on LHCF was just hating on her.....not even knowing the real deal of what went down.

If I remember correctly, the majority of the women who were constructively criticizing her hair, had longer hair than hers....

So yeah, the "hater" stuff was really exaggerated, and the whole incident was blown out of proportion. No one doubts she has pretty hair...it's just her practices.

Yes, the majority, but what others are saying is that some negative comments were there. i saw that thread that day as well and i saw some that made me shake my head. Maybe we were looking at different ones.

At the bolded, i didn't know that made a difference. I thought healthy hair outweighed length. her hair looks healthy to me. i guess since my hair ain't long i can't say nothing now. erplexed

 

[TaurusAngel]

True, dat. I think she is adorable.

Thank you for that post.

 

[Divake22]

Thank you for that post.

You're welcome!