Ateyaa from You Tube

[Paradox]

Hey there. I don't think people get mad at others finding fault, its the fact that its not done right. Some ladies, not all, but some ladies do make bad comments and not helpful ones. I think those that do get a tad bit out of sorts about it are looking at it the way I do, she says in each of her vids, that that is her regi and what works for her doesn't work for everyone. She can't stop people from trying what she does because the end product is just amazing. Its all about finding what works for each individual. We've all been on the bandwagons and have had setbacks. Isn't that the same type of thing? Ateya does what works for her, just like most of us do.

I just don't want to cause a setback for the many people that look up to her.
If I have a setback,so what it is just me messing my self up.
But she is encouraging something wrong for thousands of people to follow.
And my regimine is in my profile, it is pretty basic, critique it all you want.

 

[TaurusAngel]

I just don't want to cause a setback for the many people that look up to her.
If I have a setback,so what it is just me messing my self up.
But she is encouraging something wrong for thousands of people to follow.
And my regimine is in my profile, it is pretty basic, critique it all you want.

I understand that, but its not like she is saying in each vid that her regi is the best and only thing to do, if so, i would be right there with you. She says that is her regimen and i feel she makes that very clear in all her vids. She makes the videos because of ladies wanting to know what she does to make her hair so nice. She isn't making the videos to tell people to follow her regi, but simply providing the information to those who may or may not want to try it. As i mentioned in another post, its just like these bandwagons people jump on. It may work for you, but it may do horror to me. Ateyaa's regi can work for some, because it obviously works for her.

 

[Paradox]

I understand that, but its not like she is saying in each vid that her regi is the best and only thing to do, if so, i would be right there with you. She says that is her regimen and i feel she makes that very clear in all her vids. She makes the videos because of ladies wanting to know what she does to make her hair so nice. She isn't making the videos to tell people to follow her regi, but simply providing the information to those who may or may not want to try it. As i mentioned in another post, its just like these bandwagons people jump on. It may work for you, but it may do horror to me. Ateyaa's regi can work for some, because it obviously works for her.

I guess you are right,
don't mind me, I just worry about others to much, even Ateyaa. I worry that her regi may seem good at first and then cause a major setback.
I am also very aware of groupthink.

 

[casey3035]

Amen...I agree! Not to mention She says "That's how I do" So what's there to talk about. I say let her do her thang a lang....It's not like she posted the video on THIS site. You ladies found her videos and obviously kept on watching them only to come back and have negative things to say. She didn't make you continue to watch her videos. Take what you want from the videos and tweak the rest just like we do with every thing else, NOT a big deal! If you don't like her practices on HER hair...It's very simple. CHANGE THE CHANNEL and stop worrying about Ateya!

 

[Paradox]

i can pick and choose because I know how to discern, but those newbies or those who know nothing about hair care will jump on everything she says and mess themselves up.

It isn't really about me at all, even if I did mess myself up I know how to correct it however others may not. I also did not find her videos just to be negative about it, I look at loads of hair care videos, this is just the one that was actually discussed, and I provided my input. I only watched her video once, it isn't like I watch them every day finding something new about it. Calm down, it isn't like I hate the girl. And I am tired of people getting upset because someone has a different opinion than them.

 

[tocktick]

I wish everyone would post up their reggie so we can critique it.

don't people already do post their reggie up? and some people even ask for their reggie to be critiqued anyway.

regardless, the difference between most of us and ateya is that we're not making youtube videos that we want to be watched and know will be followed. when you put out how-to videos you open yourself to be critiqued. especially if your methods are "controversial".

members have a right to disccuss that video instead of just blindly admiring. hateful comments are unacceptable but unoffensive critiscism is not. lhcf is here to educate people and if those who have issue with what she does in the vid kept silent, there would be people just admiring ateya's swang and not knowing that there are potential consenquences in attaining it.

 

[JerriBlank]

I just love Ateya. I watched just about all her vids last night and i'm sold on that Aphogee reconstructor. i know she uses a bit much heat, but my hair loves heat, i can't do the whole air dry thing. Like she said, that regi works for HER. I'll take what i think will be a gain from it and add it to my regi.

Right!I love her personality! I feel like she's my friend now!LOL!
I didn't think she had that many unhealthy practices.Who has a perfect reggie?I love her hair,and i can see how some of her techniques can help me out
EDIT:I know i can't get my hair done like that at home
She's doing something that works
Love this girl!!!!

 

[indefinite]

don't people already do post their reggie up? and some people even ask for their reggie to be critiqued anyway.

regardless, the difference between most of us and ateya is that we're not making youtube videos that we want to be watched and know will be followed. when you put out how-to videos you open yourself to be critiqued. especially if your methods are "controversial".

members have a right to disccuss that video instead of just blindly admiring. hateful comments are unacceptable but unoffensive critiscism is not. lhcf is here to educate people and if those who have issue with what she does in the vid kept silent, there would be people just admiring ateya's swang and not knowing that there are potential consenquences in attaining it.

I totally agree!

 

[Platinum]

Careful ladies. This thread can get adlock2: like the other one about this subject.

 

[dcprdiva]

I like both her hair and makeup videos. I have the aphogee: restructorizer, damaged hair shampoo, the two minute; and the keracare oil sheen w/humidity block.

Until I saw her video I thought that I was the only one who used the two minute conditioner every week. My hair loves protein. I haven't used the aphogee heavy protein conditioner in about 2 years, but may be going back to it for my next relaxer.

Yes, i use it quite frequently too... i love it.

 

[MizzBrown]

don't people already do post their reggie up? and some people even ask for their reggie to be critiqued anyway.

regardless, the difference between most of us and ateya is that we're not making youtube videos that we want to be watched and know will be followed. when you put out how-to videos you open yourself to be critiqued. especially if your methods are "controversial".

members have a right to disccuss that video instead of just blindly admiring. hateful comments are unacceptable but unoffensive critiscism is not. lhcf is here to educate people and if those who have issue with what she does in the vid kept silent, there would be people just admiring ateya's swang and not knowing that there are potential consenquences in attaining it.

That's the thing. Who's to say what methods are right or wrong. Dang near every method on this forum is controversial.

Cowashing, henna, ayurvedic methods, trimming, natural vs. relaxed, baking soda,airdrying, oil rinses, lye vs. No lye, crown & glory, MTG, OCT, MT, BT,MN, etc.

All of those methods have a thread at least 100 posts long...some even getting folks banned and thread locked because of the "unoffensive criticism".

If a Youtube vid gets started on co-washing, there's comments tellin her that cowashing is WRONG and she needs to wash and vice versa.

A newbie can mess themselves up on ANYTHING on this board. There is no Right or Wrong.

I can attest to that being a newbie once and trying things that this board said was right, but on my hair it was dead wrong. But I thought i was "educated".

 

[Crackers Phinn]

Congratulations Ateyaaa,

You and your hair are the new Beyonce in this piece.

We are destined to have nine kazillion threads most of 'em locked on the back and forth of this chicks hair regimen.

And the end result will be the same. Some folks will be able to duplicate her swangability and some folks are going to end up bald. All that can be done is to put the pros and cons out there and let people make up their own minds.

 

[tocktick]

That's the thing. Who's to say what methods are right or wrong. Dang near every method on this forum is controversial.

Cowashing, henna, ayurvedic methods, trimming, natural vs. relaxed, baking soda,airdrying, oil rinses, lye vs. No lye, crown & glory, MTG, OCT, MT, BT,MN, etc.

All of those methods have a thread at least 100 posts long...some even getting folks banned and thread locked because of the "unoffensive criticism".

If a Youtube vid gets started on co-washing, there's comments tellin her that cowashing is WRONG and she needs to wash and vice versa.

A newbie can mess themselves up on ANYTHING on this board. There is no Right or Wrong.

I can attest to that being a newbie once and trying things that this board said was right, but on my hair it was dead wrong. But I thought i was "educated".

there are some things that carry more risk to one's hair than others such as frequent use of heat, overlapping relaxers, not conditioning etc. this stuff may work for some people but it's ruined the hair of many and that's why the technique becomes "controversial". the potential consequences of co-washing or oil rinsing etc are not really on the same scale as the risk of using many heat-appliances in one day over a regular basis.

her type of reggie/elements of it lead many to this board in the first place so whilst we don't have a right to say ateya needs to change her reggie, we can tell others who want to try this to proceed with caution or criticise elements that could cause damage on the heads of many.

i think it's wise for people to question things and that includes videos (of pretty hair many will aspire to get) presented to the board. every newbie makes mistakes but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't point out what potential traps they should miss just because they'll fall into some other one anyway.

 

[NikStarrr]

So is this the infamous thread people were supposedly not being so nice to her, according to SR? I mean, I don't see what all the hype is about. Map please...

 

[sexyeyes3616]

So is this the infamous thread people were supposedly not being so nice to her, according to SR? I mean, I don't see what all the hype is about. Map please...

No that thread got locked and moved.

 

[NikStarrr]

oh ok, I was gonna say....haha

 

[SparklingFlame]

I wish everyone would post up their reggie so we can critique it.

Girl if you were here I would kiss you.
No. Not really but you deserve a standing ovation for that one.

I mean goodness!!!!

 

[jada1111]

don't people already do post their reggie up? and some people even ask for their reggie to be critiqued anyway.

regardless, the difference between most of us and ateya is that we're not making youtube videos that we want to be watched and know will be followed. when you put out how-to videos you open yourself to be critiqued. especially if your methods are "controversial".

members have a right to disccuss that video instead of just blindly admiring. hateful comments are unacceptable but unoffensive critiscism is not. lhcf is here to educate people and if those who have issue with what she does in the vid kept silent, there would be people just admiring ateya's swang and not knowing that there are potential consenquences in attaining it.

Well, she does preface by saying this is how SHE does it and is what's working for HER.

Not everything works for everyone. Her technique might work for a newbie, then again it won't. Luckily for that newbie there are literally TONS of info on the net to help.

Her hair looks very pretty as do most of the relaxed women that frequent THIS board.

When I used to relax, I used a rat tail comb to smooth out the relaxer on the newgrowth and my hair was just fine. It's not a BAD thing, but using the FINGERS IS MUCH BETTER and HEALTHIER for the hair. I don't plan on ever relaxing again, but it is info I can pass on to someone else.

 

[SparklingFlame]

When it comes to hair, doing whats right and doing whats wrong is subjective.

I can attest to that.

 

[MizzBrown]

Well, she does preface by saying this is how SHE does it and is what's working for HER.

Not everything works for everyone. Her technique might work for a newbie, then again it won't. Luckily for that newbie there are literally TONS of info on the net to help.

Her hair looks very pretty as do most of the relaxed women that frequent THIS board.

When I used to relax, I used a rat tail comb to smooth out the relaxer on the newgrowth and my hair was just fine. It's not a BAD thing, but using the FINGERS IS MUCH BETTER and HEALTHIER for the hair. I don't plan on ever relaxing again, but it is info I can pass on to someone else.

That's what i said! I finally saw her videos to see what all the hoopla is about and in nearly all her vid's, she stresses that "this is what I use", "this is what I do for MY hair" and "i use these makeup products because its what I like and choose to use for MY skin."

Anything else she said, she was reading verbatim from the back of the bottle.

After all that stressing and clarification, folks STILL made rude comments about what is wrong or right about her haircare.

Tell me why would u change what's been working for you and givin' your hair that swing just cause someone else thinks its not right?

 

[*fabulosity*]

I just love Ateya. I watched just about all her vids last night and i'm sold on that Aphogee reconstructor. i know she uses a bit much heat, but my hair loves heat, i can't do the whole air dry thing. Like she said, that regi works for HER. I'll take what i think will be a gain from it and add it to my regi.

HELLO... I had WL hair in high school and curled my pony tail and bangs daily....lol! I tried the air dry; it's ok for when I'm not going somewhere...

 

[tocktick]

Well, she does preface by saying this is how SHE does it and is what's working for HER.

Not everything works for everyone. Her technique might work for a newbie, then again it won't. Luckily for that newbie there are literally TONS of info on the net to help.

Her hair looks very pretty as do most of the relaxed women that frequent THIS board.

When I used to relax, I used a rat tail comb to smooth out the relaxer on the newgrowth and my hair was just fine. It's not a BAD thing, but using the FINGERS IS MUCH BETTER and HEALTHIER for the hair. I don't plan on ever relaxing again, but it is info I can pass on to someone else.

is lhcf not supposed to say anything but positive things because a newbie can get more info elsewhere? imo, if lhcf was like that, there would be no point to it. if i'm in a thread regarding a product/technique/video, i appreciate a rounded view of it (i.e - a mixed bag of reviews).

it's good thing she said her techniques were not for everybody. however, you have huge numbers of black women looking at that vid like and thinking they could get hair like hers if they followed her reggie. newbies especially are desperate for change and can jump into things too quickly. if lhcf helps them weigh up the pros and cons of this reggie before they try it then that's a positive thing.

i have no problems with those with more knowledge of hair care following the reggie or doing any other "controversial" thing because they know their hair. however, on lhcf, we are able to give different views to help our newbies learn. i thought that was partially the purpose of a hair-board.

ateya shouldn't be forced to stop doing vids but if people can help others understand why her reggie or techniques may or may not be for them then that's great, imo.

 

[casey3035]

don't people already do post their reggie up? and some people even ask for their reggie to be critiqued anyway.

regardless, the difference between most of us and ateya is that we're not making youtube videos that we want to be watched and know will be followed. when you put out how-to videos you open yourself to be critiqued. especially if your methods are "controversial".

members have a right to disccuss that video instead of just blindly admiring. hateful comments are unacceptable but unoffensive critiscism is not. lhcf is here to educate people and if those who have issue with what she does in the vid kept silent, there would be people just admiring ateya's swang and not knowing that there are potential consenquences in attaining it.

Maybe so; but please keep in mind Ateyya has fans! Don't any of you think that MAYBE it's a possibility that her FANS requested this video. As a matter of fact I think it was A request. So what should she not fulfill that request for a LOYAL fan just because she might not do every thing perfect? As for newbie's all of us are newbies at first...but if you are serious about really taking care of your hair you're gonna do research 1st. And if you do you will already know that you should not overlap YOUR relaxer! It is your responsibility at the end of the day to find what works for you not Ateyaa's. I've seen some peoples fotki and I didnt agree with everything they said but who's perfect? I kept my mouth shut and moved on to someone's regimen I could deal with and you guys should do the same. I thought we were here to learn new things about hair not criticize one another for not being perfect. If any of you ARE perfect Please stand up. I wanna see this...you mean no one on here has ever given out a little bad advice? Yeah I didn't think so. God didn't make any of us perfect last time I checked. What if someone put you all on front street like that. How would you feel?

 

[casey3035]

is lhcf not supposed to say anything but positive things because a newbie can get more info elsewhere? imo, if lhcf was like that, there would be no point to it. if i'm in a thread regarding a product/technique/video, i appreciate a rounded view of it (i.e - a mixed bag of reviews).

it's good thing she said her techniques were not for everybody. however, you have huge numbers of black women looking at that vid like and thinking they could get hair like hers if they followed her reggie. newbies especially are desperate for change and can jump into things too quickly. if lhcf helps them weigh up the pros and cons of this reggie before they try it then that's a positive thing.

i have no problems with those with more knowledge of hair care following the reggie or doing any other "controversial" thing because they know their hair. however, on lhcf, we are able to give different views to help our newbies learn. i thought that was partially the purpose of a hair-board.

ateya shouldn't be forced to stop doing vids but if people can help others understand why her reggie or techniques may or may not be for them then that's great, imo.

Yeah this is what the hairboard is for to help others..BUT is that video on THIS hair board? No it's not. So if she went on you tube like everybody else...That's HER business. She can't help it if people are DESPERATE (as you say) and go straight to using her regimen. I don't mean to sound mean or disrespectful...But listen, You could just advise newbies to do all their research on forums such as this before landing on a final regimen. There is so much information right here. If people was really concerned about newbies why not tell them that everybody's practices are not correct and will not work for them. I don't think people had to actually pinpoint Ateyya's name to clear that up. You can ruin someone's credibility and reputation that way. The hold issue I understand...The way it was handled I don't. And then to continue to try and bash her practices ...well that's worse.

 

[casey3035]

HALLELUJAH!!!!!.te=MizzBrown;5448007]That's the thing. Who's to say what methods are right or wrong. Dang near every method on this forum is controversial.

Cowashing, henna, ayurvedic methods, trimming, natural vs. relaxed, baking soda,airdrying, oil rinses, lye vs. No lye, crown & glory, MTG, OCT, MT, BT,MN, etc.

All of those methods have a thread at least 100 posts long...some even getting folks banned and thread locked because of the "unoffensive criticism".

If a Youtube vid gets started on co-washing, there's comments tellin her that cowashing is WRONG and she needs to wash and vice versa.

A newbie can mess themselves up on ANYTHING on this board. There is no Right or Wrong.

I can attest to that being a newbie once and trying things that this board said was right, but on my hair it was dead wrong. But I thought i was "educated".[/quote]

 

[Hot40]

I like her energy.

 

[jada1111]

is lhcf not supposed to say anything but positive things because a newbie can get more info elsewhere? imo, if lhcf was like that, there would be no point to it. if i'm in a thread regarding a product/technique/video, i appreciate a rounded view of it (i.e - a mixed bag of reviews).

it's good thing she said her techniques were not for everybody. however, you have huge numbers of black women looking at that vid like and thinking they could get hair like hers if they followed her reggie. newbies especially are desperate for change and can jump into things too quickly. if lhcf helps them weigh up the pros and cons of this reggie before they try it then that's a positive thing.

Okay, this part right here brings back some memories.

Back when I was still relaxing, I really wanted to go natural, but couldn't get any decent info. I remember trying on my own, but I was using the wrong products and gave up.

At that time, LHCF was still in its infancy and had broke away from longhaircarelovers. There were only about maybe three or four hairboards on the net (nappyhair.com, naturallycurly.com, longhairlovers). Nappturality wasn't around yet. There used to be a member on here named Sweetcocoa. She was sooooo coool and had the most gorgeous natural hair. She was a 3c and I honestly thought that when I turned natural I would have that SAME hair texture. I was ignorant to the hairtyping system and it was a long time since I saw my REAL hair, so I didn't know whether or not it would turn out that way. Well, once I decided to do the natural thing again (due to the new info and the wonderful fotkis) I saw that my hair wasn't anywhere near hers, but I was STILL cool with it, because it meant that I could have a BAA one day.

I said all this to say THAT I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT NEWBIES BELIEVING THEIR HAIR WILL TURN OUT LIKE HERS, then be disappointed when it doesn't.

That's why peeps need to explore ALL AVENUES before hopping on a bandwagon.

Ateyaa also has a wonderful, fun personal that comes through in her videos, so you don't mind watching even if her techniques might be a bit off. At least, you're not bored.

 

[tocktick]

Maybe so; but please keep in mind Ateyya has fans! Don't any of you think that MAYBE it's a possibility that her FANS requested this video. As a matter of fact I think it was A request. So what should she not fulfill that request for a LOYAL fan just because she might not do every thing perfect?

she's kind to fulfil a request but obligated she is not. i'm not bothered if she feels she shouldn't do a request. people critiquing are not saying she needs to stop doing her videos. however, she's responsible for what she puts out there in the public arena. imo, one should only do videos where they knows what their doing. this video is fine because everything works for her. it's tried and tested for her. however, she did the relaxer video because it was requested yet made some errors and admitted she doesn't ordinarily do her own relaxers. it's ok she doesn't know how to do them but that doesn't mean she's justified in putting the vid out there. direct the fans to another vid, film your stylist etc. there were other options. being honest about your abilities needs to come before kindness and "loyalty" to fans when you put out videos of that nature and know people will follow.

As for newbie's all of us are newbies at first...but if you are serious about really taking care of your hair you're gonna do research 1st. And if you do you will already know that you should not overlap YOUR relaxer! It is your responsibility at the end of the day to find what works for you not Ateyaa's.

what if the extent of some people's research is youtube alone? actually, never mind them. we're focusing on people who want to follow ateya's reggie but are on lhcf too. for research to be there to find, someone needs to have said something regarding the subject matter. if one wants to find out if ateya's reggie is a great one, this is a fantastic thread for them. why make the journey to increasing one's knowledge harder?

lhcf is a place where we're supposed to help people and people are doing that in this thread, imo. it's worth mentioning that we have many lurkers here that aren't able to search and many members are overwhelmed by the search feature. typing in "ateya" and seeing this thread is awesome for them.

re: overlapping - some people really do not know it's bad. they see ateya with gorgeous looking hair and may presume overlapping may not be that big of a deal.

how many of us have jumped onto bandwagons without all of that extensive resarch? plenty. see it on the boards every day. to some, ateya is a bandwagon and people should be given a well rounded picture.

I've seen some peoples fotki and I didnt agree with everything they said but who's perfect? I kept my mouth shut and moved on to someone's regimen I could deal with and you guys should do the same. I thought we were here to learn new things about hair not criticize one another for not being perfect. If any of you ARE perfect Please stand up.

hmmm...no-one has claimed to be perfect. must we all be perfect in order to critique? that doesn't make sense in my world, tbh. we are all here to learn and teach. that means that we don't know all of the answers but we do share our knowledge.

fotki/youtube and lhcf are not the same. if people were supposed to keep their mouths shut on lhcf regarding a technique or product because it was negative, this place would be utterly pointless and empty. people here are supposed to comment respectfully (good or bad review) instead of just k.i.m-ing like one may do on fotki. fotki isn't the right medium for someone to make unsolicited comments about a reggie. on lhcf, you except comments on the subject matter of the thread. fotki is of a different nature entirel0y.

I wanna see this...you mean no one on here has ever given out a little bad advice? Yeah I didn't think so. God didn't make any of us perfect last time I checked. What if someone put you all on front street like that. How would you feel?

if you give out "bad" advice on a board with 40,000 members and plenty of lurkers, you deserve to be questioned and "put on front street", imo. many people are reading your words so you are responsible for the information you put out there. it only makes sense that someone may make a comment. if that "bad" practice is what "works for you" then that's cool. however, that doesn't mean other people do not have the right to inform other members of the consequences that "bad" practice may result it.

like i've said many times, we are here to learn and teach...

 

[Quest4healthyhair]

Personally her regimen is not for me, but I have to admit that she is charismatic.

 

[tocktick]

Yeah this is what the hairboard is for to help others..BUT is that video on THIS hair board? No it's not. So if she went on you tube like everybody else...That's HER business. She can't help it if people are DESPERATE (as you say) and go straight to using her regimen. I don't mean to sound mean or disrespectful...But listen, You could just advise newbies to do all their research on forums such as this before landing on a final regimen. There is so much information right here. If people was really concerned about newbies why not tell them that everybody's practices are not correct and will not work for them. I don't think people had to actually pinpoint Ateyya's name to clear that up. You can ruin someone's credibility and reputation that way. The hold issue I understand...The way it was handled I don't. And then to continue to try and bash her practices ...well that's worse.

um yeah, last post in this thread. i don't agree with critique being posted on a youtube video on the youtube page. that's not the correct medium for that unless she asked for advice on there. but this is a thread about ateya with a video link. no-one is saying run to youtube and make comments. if the reason why people should not make a comment on a video is because it's hosted on youtube, then compliments should not be made either. why? for the same reason. take it to youtube, right? makes no sense.

lhcf doesn't create all products, all tecniques, all methods etc yet we critique and compliment anyway instead of taking all of that directly to the source. no-one is doing a character assianation on this woman unlike sandra rose et all would foolishly have people believe, imo.