2013 Relaxed Hair Buddy Thread

[divachyk]

Nix08 I'm pumping moisture to it at every turn. I'm doing a tea rinse today and will let it sit for a while before rinsing. I'm using my normal concotion as I'm not ready to introduce any new products -- slippery elm, marsh root, burdock rook, moringa, bamboo, oolong and red tea.

bign__17 I'm also considering that also although it defeats the purpose of going to a salon. She uses my combs so I think she would be willing to use my products. I only need her for applying the chemical. I can do the rest tbh but shouldn't have too.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Nix08 I'm pumping moisture to it at every turn. I'm doing a tea rinse today and will let it sit for a while before rinsing. I'm using my normal concotion as I'm not ready to introduce any new products -- slippery elm, marsh root, burdock rook, moringa, bamboo, oolong and red tea.

bign__17 I'm also considering that also although it defeats the purpose of going to a salon. She uses my combs so I think she would be willing to use my products. I only need her for applying the chemical. I can do the rest tbh but shouldn't have too.

Noooo, I don't think you should do a tea rinse?!?! It could make things worse...

Can you List the DC you have in your stash?

Do you have any QB products?

Do you have roux porosity control, honey, EVOO, sesame oil, grapeseed oil?

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[Cattypus1]

Noooo, I don't think you should do a tea rinse?!?! It could make things worse...

Can you List the DC you have in your stash?

Do you have any QB products?

Do you have roux porosity control, honey, EVOO, sesame oil, grapeseed oil?

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Good call, Kiwi!!!

 

[Cattypus1]

Those look perfectly set! How do you style them?

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SO PRETTY! What style did you come up with? Also, LOVE LOVE LOVE that color.

Good job!!! I wanna see your styles and what you did with the set!...

Here is a pic from today after sleeping on it with the curls separated...not much in the way of style but I'm that kind of woman. It's a little more poodle-ish than I'd like but I can live with that. I want to see how long it will last. It may become one of my GoTo protective styles.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Here is a pic from today after sleeping on it with the curls separated...not much in the way of style but I'm that kind of woman. It's a little more poodle-ish than I'd like but I can live with that. I want to see how long it will last. It may become one of my GoTo protective styles.

It's really cute! There are soo many curls! How much time does it take to set?

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[KiWiStyle]

xu93texas KiWiStyle shortdub78 yoli184 Altruisticoam Cattypus1 soonergirl SunySydeofLyfe

Ok buddies today is wash day. I'm going to slap on my prepoo with Dabur Vatika Oil, Shampoo , do a reconstructive treatment, DC w/ steam, add Leave In's, and Air Dry using the banding method and bun for another week. Whats your plans?

I have no plans today. I usually reserve my wash days for Mondays when the kid and DH are at work and school. I'll be doing my usual but I might style in a braidout bun.

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[Cattypus1]

It's really cute! There are soo many curls! How much time does it take to set?

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Thanks...It took me about an hour, about 50 straws on my 9 & 1/2 week post BSL hair. It didn't take nearly as long to dry as my twists do, about 2 hours.

 

[sunnieb]

divachyk - I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. I know you've always said you have a good stylist, so I'm not sure why she isn't listening. And girl, it's YOUR hair. Shoo, if you want to pay for relaxer application and neutralizing only, then do it. You can go home and condition your hair yourself.

How is your hair doing today? Did your washing efforts help?

 

[divachyk]

sunnieb, I think she's a good stylist (in comparison to what's available in my area). She's not a great stylist based on LHCF standards. IRL, no one compares to LHCF standards in my local area. I've chair hopped and it's simply not available.

I like how she applies my TU but there are a few areas that annoy me -- combing and no DCing. My other stylists didn't do an all out DCing either but they did run a RO through the hair in an attempt to balance it out.

I think local stylists really believe protein is the way to go for relaxed heads. They simply are not fluent in all things hair like we are -- porosity, protein/moisture balance, etc. Sounds whack but it's true.

I've learned to just go for TUs only and handle the rest. However, this past time she was juggling multiple clients (applying a relaxer on another client) and the protein sat for too long, hence the reason I'm protein overloaded. All other times, she's protein treated, didn't follow up with a moisture DCner, all was fine. This time sitting with the protein longer than normal caused the hiccup. I'll give her pass this time but won't let it happen again.

ETA: The hair isn't right yet. I'm trying shortdub78's salt in the conditioner trick to see if it helps break the protein bonds a bit. I'll report back when I rinse it off.

 

[Evolving78]

xu93texas KiWiStyle shortdub78 yoli184 Altruisticoam EnExitStageLeft soonergirl SunySydeofLyfe

Thought I would try a new style with the new products...my first stab at a full straw set


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Straws out...took about 2 hours to air dry...gonna let it dry a few minutes more before I separate the curls. So far, I am loving the feel!

that looks so good! now you can come and do a straw set on me!

off topic,
i did a bit of a pre treatment because i was bad with my hair the past few days. so i applied some JBCO to my scalp and applied a bit of coconut oil to my strands. i put a plastic cap on and went back to sleep for a few hours.

i shampooed with Nairobi and applied the Nairobi conditioner and left it on while in the shower for 5 mins. my hair felt nice and strong. once i got out, i applied Mizani MoisturFusion and let that sit on my hair for an hour. (i was cleaning up)

i rinsed, applied my leave-ins and my Nairobi wrap foam lotion. i was running out of time, so i blow dried my hair (it was 90% air dried) and i used my flat iron to curl my hair. it came out nice.

now i gotta figure out how am i gonna tie this stuff up tonight? i may use my flexi rods. i wish i still had my satin rollers.

 

[Cattypus1]

that looks so good! now you can come and do a straw set on me!

off topic,
i did a bit of a pre treatment because i was bad with my hair the past few days. so i applied some JBCO to my scalp and applied a bit of coconut oil to my strands. i put a plastic cap on and went back to sleep for a few hours.

i shampooed with Nairobi and applied the Nairobi conditioner and left it on while in the shower for 5 mins. my hair felt nice and strong. once i got out, i applied Mizani MoisturFusion and let that sit on my hair for an hour. (i was cleaning up)

i rinsed, applied my leave-ins and my Nairobi wrap foam lotion. i was running out of time, so i blow dried my hair (it was 90% air dried) and i used my flat iron to curl my hair. it came out nice.

now i gotta figure out how am i gonna tie this stuff up tonight? i may use my flexi rods. i wish i still had my satin rollers.

I'm on my way...LOL...I've been playing kitchen beautician since I was a little girl! LOL

 

[divachyk]

KiWiStyle & Cattypus1, thanks for the input. I tea rinse weekly but only use moisturizing teas. I stay away from those that strengthen the hair. I have too many products in my stash to name. I have QB products but they don't make me jump for joy. Roux is for high porosity and I'm low porosity. I often mix honey in my DC and did so earlier today. Evoo is ok but not divine (for my hair). Sesame I have no experience with and grapeseed was just meh when I used it back in the day.

I really like the positive impact of adding 1 tablespoon of table salt in the Tresemme conditioner. My hair softened tremendously and I'm very impressed. I'm not impressed that I'm still getting some slight breakage but it's not nearly as much as it was. I pulled out the never fail me, Mizani H20, to mellow out the breakage.

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[Cattypus1]

KiWiStyle & Cattypus1, thanks for the input. I tea rinse weekly but only use moisturizing teas. I stay away from those that strengthen the hair. I have too many products in my stash to name. I have QB products but they don't make me jump for joy. Roux is for high porosity and I'm low porosity. I often mix honey in my DC and did so earlier today. Evoo is ok but not divine. Sesame I have no experience with and grapeseed was just meh when I used it back in the day.

I really like the positive impact of adding 1 tablespoon of table salt in the Tresemme conditioner. My hair softened tremendously and I'm very impressed. I'm not impressed that I'm still getting some slight breakage but it's not nearly as much as it was. I pulled out the never fail me, Mizani H20, to mellow out the breakage.

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I'm glad you've found what works. That sucks that you pay someone and they jack up your hair. The silver lining is that you know what happened and can take steps to remedy it. Think of how bad it would suck if you had no clue! I love LHCF for that, the information that is available is invaluable. Good luck with your hair, I'm sure you'll get it under control.

 

[DominicanBrazilian82]

Hey buds, I got my TU last night and I'm very disappointed. My hair is way protein overloaded and breaking. I will have to baggy and cowash like crazy to recover. So far, recovery is going slow and I've washed three times already - last night, this morning and tonight. Hair is still coarse, no movement and feels horrible. The stylist doesn't use a moisture DCner after the protein treatment. Although my hair hates protein, this is usually no big deal because my hair typically recovers well from her protein treatments. She was juggling multiple clients and the protein stayed on a longer than usual. I got home and felt around in my hair and it just felt horrible. At first I thought it was the -cones making my hair feel stupid. I clarified and it still didn't bounce back. I knew right then it was protein overload.

I've discussed p/m balance with her in the past and I don't believe she understands porosity or p/m balance. I honestly haven't found any stylist that knows a great deal about these topics in my local area. I have decisions to make about recovering my hair now and my salon visits later. I am pleased with the application of the relaxer, I'm just not pleased with the other parts of my visit. Maybe I should just let her apply the TU and neutralize hair, I then slap on a plastic cap, go home wet and handle the rest.

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divachyk I'd have to agree with the just allowing her to do your TU part. It's like some Stylists just slept through the hair care part and fast forwarded to styling. I'm super sorry about your overload. Protein overload is what brought me to LHCF, and ladies like you are who taught me about p/m balance. Your hair will be back in no time flat.

 

[KiWiStyle]

KiWiStyle & Cattypus1, thanks for the input. I tea rinse weekly but only use moisturizing teas. I stay away from those that strengthen the hair. I have too many products in my stash to name. I have QB products but they don't make me jump for joy. Roux is for high porosity and I'm low porosity. I often mix honey in my DC and did so earlier today. Evoo is ok but not divine (for my hair). Sesame I have no experience with and grapeseed was just meh when I used it back in the day.

I really like the positive impact of adding 1 tablespoon of table salt in the Tresemme conditioner. My hair softened tremendously and I'm very impressed. I'm not impressed that I'm still getting some slight breakage but it's not nearly as much as it was. I pulled out the never fail me, Mizani H20, to mellow out the breakage.

sunnieb Nix08 baddison DominicanBrazilian82Cherry89

I hope the salt along with the other products continue to help you rebound from this. It's crazy because now that I think about it, I had crazy breakage over the winter which is why I had not retained as much as I normally do. I actually needed more protein and didn't realize it until I started adding more of it this year.

It sounds like your hair is the exact opposite of mine ;-).

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[EnExitStageLeft]

I haven't even attempted to prepoo yet. Looks like wash day don' got pushed up a day. Hopefully I muster up some energy tomorrow.

 

[naija24]

color treated relaxers are too weak for my hair texture. i attempted to self relax and it didn't even straighten my roots a little. I refuse to make it count as a touch up.

getting my hair professionally relaxed from now on.

 

[AlliCat]

shortdub78 I'm gonna push my relaxer back some weeks. Planning to do it some time in late July (for Caribana) or late September (for the end of the Hide the Heat challenge).

 

[AlliCat]

So I'm not using my flat iron until September. Anyone else trying to reduce direct heat this summer?

 

[baddison]

KiWiStyle & Cattypus1, thanks for the input. I tea rinse weekly but only use moisturizing teas. I stay away from those that strengthen the hair. I have too many products in my stash to name. I have QB products but they don't make me jump for joy. Roux is for high porosity and I'm low porosity. I often mix honey in my DC and did so earlier today. Evoo is ok but not divine (for my hair). Sesame I have no experience with and grapeseed was just meh when I used it back in the day.

I really like the positive impact of adding 1 tablespoon of table salt in the Tresemme conditioner. My hair softened tremendously and I'm very impressed. I'm not impressed that I'm still getting some slight breakage but it's not nearly as much as it was. I pulled out the never fail me, Mizani H20, to mellow out the breakage.

sunnieb Nix08 baddison DominicanBrazilian82Cherry89

Hey! divachyk - been following your progress with keen interest. Looks like the salt in the conditioner did help a bit. I'm gonna add that one to my books for future reference. I'm sure a few consecutive nights of some good baggying will also help. Looks like you're on your way to a nice hair-recovery.

 

[divachyk]

Hey! @divachyk - been following your progress with keen interest. Looks like the salt in the conditioner did help a bit. I'm gonna add that one to my books for future reference. I'm sure a few consecutive nights of some good baggying will also help. Looks like you're on your way to a nice hair-recovery.

baddison, thanks lady. I did GHE last night under the baggy with water and evoo. That should help also.

 

[Evolving78]

shortdub78 I'm gonna push my relaxer back some weeks. Planning to do it some time in late July (for Caribana) or late September (for the end of the Hide the Heat challenge).

AlliCat
how many weeks post will you be by then?

 

[soonergirl]

shortdub78 I'm gonna push my relaxer back some weeks. Planning to do it some time in late July (for Caribana) or late September (for the end of the Hide the Heat challenge).

Im 18 weeks trying to make it to 22, but I can't take it anymore!!! I ordered a Nairobi relaxer yay! Once it gets here its going on!! I will join you on the no heat thing tho

 

[AlliCat]

@AlliCat
how many weeks post will you be by then?

shortdub78 hmm let me think... I'm 8 weeks post this weekend.. so by Aug I'll be 14 weeks and sept 21 weeks

My longest stretch was 16 weeks and I think that's what helped me get past neck length (along with gaining a ton of thickness). It would be cool to do another long stretch again.

 

[DominicanBrazilian82]

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divachyk

Corrective! I think I need one. My last relaxer straightened my hair a lot better than the one before... I mean way better. I've never done a corrective and need a little advice. I don't plan to do one until my stretch is over, but what are some things to consider when doing one? And do I apply the relaxer directly to the under processed area and new growth?

 

[Nix08]

@DominicanBrazilian82 I don't have much experience with correctives but i'm glad you'll do it with your stretch. I would suggest practicing with conditioner. Perhaps do the sunnieb pre parts and use a special coloured clip to mark the areas that require the corrective.

 

[divachyk]

DominicanBrazilian82, I've had a corrective done once. I had it done the same day as my regular scheduled TU. The stylist applied the relaxer to the under processed areas the last 5 minutes of the TU. Are you getting any breakage from the varying textures (sure hope not!).

 

[Evolving78]

shortdub78 hmm let me think... I'm 8 weeks post this weekend.. so by Aug I'll be 14 weeks and sept 21 weeks

My longest stretch was 16 weeks and I think that's what helped me get past neck length (along with gaining a ton of thickness). It would be cool to do another long stretch again.

i will relax with you! i missed the boat with the other members, and my hair is pretty bone straight right now.

 

[baddison]

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divachyk

Corrective! I think I need one. My last relaxer straightened my hair a lot better than the one before... I mean way better. I've never done a corrective and need a little advice. I don't plan to do one until my stretch is over, but what are some things to consider when doing one? And do I apply the relaxer directly to the under processed area and new growth?

hmmm.....never, ever did a corrective before. Normally, when I underprocess (..which is rare...), but if I underprocess, I just suck-it-up until my next 20 weeks stretch. :-/

Will be watching (..and learning...) from the other ladies' replies. erplexed

 

[divachyk]

@baddison, have you not corrected those previously under processed areas during your TU following your 20 week stretch? I continued my stretch but the stylist corrected those under processed areas in the manner mentioned upthread.

I know a self-relaxed head that kept getting inconsistent results each relaxer and she never tried to correct them. She just rolled with the varying textures. That causes too much stress/strain on my needy hair.