"Natural Hair Community My A**" -NikkiiDior

[LittleLuxe]

*Frisky*

Do you know who her sponsors are by any chance? Cause I'm wondering who's supporting the woman who's half naked in some of her videos for no reason...

Also makes me wonder if High Maintenance actually works someplace because I'd send that vid to her boss/corporation in a jiffy.

Either way, glad head wraps were pulled off and clothes were put on for this video. She's even speaking like someone with an education and...some...manners there's hope for her yet.

 

[Raspberry]

Wooowww.. she cleaned it up quick.

It's rare I care enough about what someone is saying online to be messin with their jobs but folks gotta be careful nowadays. Stuff like this used to be kept behind closed doors, now thousands of people across the globe can hear your nonsense within minutes.

I'm surprised that someone who claims to own 3 businesses would take time out to act rachet on YouTube over a subject they claim to care nothing about. If you're a teenager or college student that's one thing, but as grown folks we got more at stake.

 

[*Frisky*]

@*Frisky*

Do you know who her sponsors are by any chance? Cause I'm wondering who's supporting the woman who's half naked in some of her videos for no reason...

Also makes me wonder if High Maintenance actually works someplace because I'd send that vid to her boss/corporation in a jiffy.

Either way, glad head wraps were pulled off and clothes were put on for this video. She's even speaking like someone with an education and...some...manners there's hope for her yet.

LittleLuxe

Girl I have no idea who her sponsors are but that is crazy that somebody would do that!! Yea she didn't even sound like the same person in that video. Hiymay10nence is a supervisor at her job if I am not mistaken. I often wonder about people that have decent jobs that get on youtube showing their azzz if it will ever affect their job later on down the line. Acting like that you can miss out on alot of opportunites that you may not even be aware of because some business person or company saw your video and changed their mind. I was shocked when I heard Queen said she owns 3 businesses. Once you decide to become a part of the business world, you have to conduct yourself in that manner at all times. Especially on these social forums. You have no idea who is watching and reading what you put out there.

 

[LittleLuxe]

Right?

Who knows if a potential client/owner of a corporation/or associate is a 'light skinned ***'? Or etc. SMH. Okay I thought they were ignorant before but now I just think they're plain and simple dumb. ...good luck with that mess, I would not be the one to put money in either of those women's hands.

 

[Raspberry]

Don't get me wrong, I've definitely been entertained by some YT rachetness lol but it's sobering to think of these vloggers as everyday people who have families, friends, and need to make a living.

 

[MrsJaiDiva]

I just wanna know.....what is really the "beauty standard" right now?

Asians using skin whiteners and scared to gain weight.

Light skinned Black folks gettin beat up bc of their skin and hair.

Every race is thinking straight hair is better until recently.

But the White folks is tannin and gettin injections in certain areas.

What is REALLY going on in the world yo?

I'd love to know this myself!! Because really, all of it is just foolishness isn't it? I only need to be beautiful to myself, and those who would appreciate it! And I remember being so bogged down in insecurities, and self hatred as a teen...thinking "If I were thinner, taller, shorter, longer hair, straighter hair, curlier hair, blue eyed, green eyed, smarter, stupider, they wouldn't always be on me." All that for people who I only see on my FB feed...if that. And once I shook that crap off as an adult, I couldn't feed into that nonsense again if you paid me. Who out there is universally loved?...and if that chick doesn't exist, why is everyone trying so hard to be her?!? Why drive yourself nuts if beauty is an ephemeral fad?

Hopefully, at some point everyone can feel comfortable enough in their own skins, to not care what the insecure say or do. I mean, that's their problem, and their issue.

 

[SmilingElephant]

I'd love to know this myself!! Because really, all of it is just foolishness isn't it? I only need to be beautiful to myself, and those who would appreciate it! And I remember being so bogged down in insecurities, and self hatred as a teen...thinking "If I were thinner, taller, shorter, longer hair, straighter hair, curlier hair, blue eyed, green eyed, smarter, stupider, they wouldn't always be on me." All that for people who I only see on my FB feed...if that. And once I shook that crap off as an adult, I couldn't feed into that nonsense again if you paid me. Who out there is universally loved?...and if that chick doesn't exist, why is everyone trying so hard to be her?!? Why drive yourself nuts if beauty is an ephemeral fad?

Hopefully, at some point everyone can feel comfortable enough in their own skins, to not care what the insecure say or do. I mean, that's their problem, and their issue.

I wish there was a thanks button on this app bc I completely agree!

 

[discodumpling]

*in my West Indian dialect* TREE? TREE?? Videos she made on this? This chick needs a hug ((((huggggsssss) SISTER. If it's any comfort your facial features are African enough for your natural to be believeable...for me anyway

 

[Love Always]

ManeStreet, sounds like you were at Plaza Bonita ? I just peeped your location and that was the hangout spot in highschool where things went down .

Anyway, it's really unfortunate that this happened to you. I knew this girl that got jumped by some girls in high school while she was in junior high because the other girls thought she was "all that" .

 

[*Frisky*]

*in my West Indian dialect* TREE? TREE?? Videos she made on this? This chick needs a hug ((((huggggsssss) SISTER. If it's any comfort your facial features are African enough for your natural to be believeable...for me anyway

You know honestly, I don't think the 3 video thing means a thing. All the videos were only 3 minutes long which in total, add up to how long an average video is. I was thinking maybe her phone only lets her do 3 or 4 minute videos. Now if she did 3, 10 minute long videos I would be like
hahahahahha

 

[ms-gg]

@*Frisky*

Do you know who her sponsors are by any chance? Cause I'm wondering who's supporting the woman who's half naked in some of her videos for no reason...

Also makes me wonder if High Maintenance actually works someplace because I'd send that vid to her boss/corporation in a jiffy.

Either way, glad head wraps were pulled off and clothes were put on for this video. She's even speaking like someone with an education and...some...manners there's hope for her yet.

Oh wow. That serious that you want to get her fired huh? ohwell:

 

[ManeStreet]

@ManeStreet, sounds like you were at Plaza Bonita ? I just peeped your location and that was the hangout spot in highschool where things went down .

Anyway, it's really unfortunate that this happened to you. I knew this girl that got jumped by some girls in high school while she was in junior high because the other girls thought she was "all that" .

Lol, no at that time I was living in the Bay at the time, that's where it happened.

 

[ManeStreet]

i kinda wanna know how it ended

@keenyme I was on my cellphone last night when I posted and I got tired of typing on it so I wrapped the story up. so this is what happened....

My best friend and I left McD and as we walked through the mall we heard them behind us following us cursing and threatening me. Then they started to say demeaning things to my best friend too. She is 3 or 4 years younger than me and I always looked at her like my younger sister and I am protective of her. I could tell that it was very starting to spook her because she started walking super fast almost trying to run from them and I could tell she was shakey. I told her to go ahead and I'd catch up with her. I stopper, turned around and the girls approached me. I could tell they were surprised that I stopped and I looked them right in their eyes.

And I said, "Hi, do I know you?

Them, "Ah, No."

Me, "Do you know me. Because I don't think we've ever met before so why do you have a problem with me?".

I truly said it sincerely, no attitude and not confrontational, I was really confused by the whole situation, I'm not one for violence but I'm also not going to be bullied or back me up against a wall.

They just stood there lookin confused and looked at each other like "hmmm that's a good question". I just stood there quiet waiting for them to say something but then they just turned around and walked back the other direction and called me a Bi$#% and other names as they walked away.

So that was the first blatant , in my face sort negative reaction I experienced based solely on how I looked. Unfortunately it happens.

 

[anartist4u2001]

It's sad that she has to be treated like that. By the way, I wonder what city she lives in? There's a natural hair expo going on right now near where I live.

LOL i was wondering that too because i went to one on Satuday.

 

[ManeStreet]

Lol at the bolded

PersuasiveBeauty LOL yeah for real. They were real ignorant with it. I was like damn grab some popcorn somebody's about to their behind whipped. It's about to be Jerry Springer up in here. So I turned around trying to see who was saying it and who they were saying it too. And it was ME. I was so shocked, I had never seen those girls in my life. And I was so embarrassed because the line at McDonald's was very crowded and packed with people waiting in line. Everybody in the whole restaurant could hear them. And it seemed to make them madder that I did not respond to them so they got louder and louder. Hott Mess.

 

[LittleLuxe]

Oh wow. That serious that you want to get her fired huh? ohwell:

No, I don't want get her fired. However, she is an adult capable of rational thought and (I hope) evaluating her priorities. She decided she wanted to upload videos of herself acting like a stereotype and more importantly title her videos like that...So I have to assume she'd be fine with any and every one seeing those videos including an employer.

Frankly she's setting herself up for an unemployment check, no assistance needed from me.

 

[ManeStreet]

In the end my take on Nikki's video and High Maintenance is that people should learn to empathise with another person's hurt regardless of the circumstance.

Nikki expressed the hurt she experienced when she didn't feel accepted by the natural hair community and other black women.

High Maintenance expressed the hurt she experienced with being treated inferior to women with lighter skin and "good hair".

Hurt is hurt. And another person's suffering is not less than mine. And we need to learn how to embrace another people's suffering. When people can realize that, the barriers between groups can be eliminated.

 

[jaiku]

"Let's not act like you don't get more acceptance from men because you are light skinned with "good hair" ...Nobody should be rude to you. They should embrace you. I believe that you go through equal hair issues with maintenance and retention as well... But don't sit up there and front like society does not give you a privilege because of your light skin and hair texture. You want us to pretend like it's not there? Girl go turn on BET."

SMH at this Youtube comment.

Unfortunately, a lot of women really believe this mess. I feel sorry for them. I'm dark and my bff is light and if having guys call you yellowbone and feel like they can touch your body without your permission is a privilege than I'll pass. I have yet to see good attention directed at anyone based on color alone. Most of the time its disrespectful attention.

 

[ms-gg]

No, I don't want get her fired. However, she is an adult capable of rational thought and (I hope) evaluating her priorities. She decided she wanted to upload videos of herself acting like a stereotype and more importantly title her videos like that...So I have to assume she'd be fine with any and every one seeing those videos including an employer.

Frankly she's setting herself up for an unemployment check, no assistance needed from me.

And that's why I make sure I neeeeeeeeeeeever reveal where I work over the net, or even hint at it. NEVER.

 

[LittleLuxe]

True, but in general I'm sure you're also pretty harmless in what you say and do online. The problem with High Maintenance one is her video persona is one that can offend people, not everyone finds that form of humor amusing and everything from the cursing, to the title of the vid, to it's content is pretty divisive.

Honestly I feel like she's focusing on the wrong target and prob. just feeding the system which pits us against one another.

Still, I think she should be careful. Even professional comedians cross the line and lose their jobs...someone who has a real job should probably decide how much they value their YouTube fans over employment. I have no clue where she works but bosses surf YouTube too.

 

[Embyra]

And that's why I make sure I neeeeeeeeeeeever reveal where I work over the net, or even hint at it. NEVER.

EXACTLY!!!!

 

[Qualitee]

Why are people trying to make it seem like everything that happened to her is in her head? Is it because she's light skin and people wouldn't judge her negatively because of it?..Right? I wasn't there, neither were any of us. So we can't really put our two cents in it, but saying that it was in her head it straight up wrong. If she were a brown sista and someone said that, it would be on like donky kong Oh yeah, lighter skin sistas get it bad too. Our lives aren't roses like other people make it seem to be. People make it seem like when you are born light skin your father taking to to the highest near by mountain, hold you up in the air as high as he can and thanks God.

 

[nzeee]

i keep coming back to this thread. it's like a bad traffic accident that i feel compelled to slow down and gawk at

Qualitee you're right, none of us were there so we can't assume what she's saying is w/out merit but from what i've read here the majority of people are on ND's side and choose to take her words at face value. i agree with whoever said 'hurt is hurt' upthread; whatever happened doesn't matter at the end of the day -- if someone feels bad then hopefully most people will be able to empathize w/ the hurt (if not w/ the situation itself).

the point some people seemed to be making tho is that certainly ND was not the fairest of them all at this expo so can she really assume any shade she received was hair-based? why would she be singled out? it's worth asking the question. if this was a friend of mine i would completely console her because she's upset and she's my friend and i care about her feelings, but i would still challenge her assumption because in this case the source of any disrespect could really be anything. caring about feelings and challenging what could be faulty assumptions are separate and because you do the latter doesn't mean you're incapable of the former.

i'm dark and therefore more likely to experience overt forms of racism (let's be real here) but holy crap, if i walked around assuming everyone who was mean to me was being racist i would not have the emotional energy to function. i'm female in a male dominated industry so same thing; if every unpleasant interaction i had w/ a man at work was assumed sexist i wouldn't show up everyday. Prejudices exist w/in everybody cuz that's the world we live in. but our skin and hair are w/ us all our lives. by the time we're through our teens we've hopefully developed some way of moving through the world w/out dwelling on minor slights. i'm genuinely surprised ND, who looks to be in her mid-late 30's, gave so much weight to what was essentially a minor interaction. she must have reason to be sad a lot; there are a lot of rude people in the world.

also, pls don't bring up the if ND was a dark-skinned girl she'd get more sympathy thing. it's insulting and irrelevant. (i know it's not just you, a bunch of other people have done it; you're just the most recent offender).

 

[nzeee]

oh, one more thing (my previous post is already too long so i'm loathe to add to it):

unless it's theraputic, i don't think it's really necessary for people to bring up childhood or present (or your friend's childhood or current) inter-racial conflicts in this thread.

the fact that you or your friend was attacked and beaten down because you were lightskinned or because you were dark w/ enviable hair doesn't prove this particular experience of ND's was racially based or had anything to do w/ skin or hair envy. no one is doubting people in general can be mean or that as a racial group we have reason to be screwed up and turn on each other.

but IMO it's more useful to keep this thread about this specific experience lest it turn into a light vs dark vs darks who support lights vs lights who support darks and etc. i love a fruitful debate but this is going in weird directions and i'd like to think we're all better than that.

 

[ManeStreet]

i keep coming back to this thread. it's like a bad traffic accident that i feel compelled to slow down and gawk at


i'm dark and therefore more likely to experience overt forms of racism (let's be real here) but holy crap....

nzeee

In response to the bolded area. I'd like to mention that racism is not most likely overtly directed to dark skinned people. Jews, asians, latinos, the irish and many other races and ethnic groups have been the target of racism and genocide and even if they are not dark-skinned. Every group is susceptible or can be the target of racism and discrimination. Overt racism is not one-dimensional or only related to skin tone.

 

[nzeee]

yeh... ok. i honestly wasn't thinking about the racism experienced by the irish erplexed

but since we were talking about light and dark black women for the majority of this thread i thought it was safe to assume everyone would know i meant that EYE, as a very dark-skinned woman would be more likely to experience overt forms for negative attention based on racial prejudice due to my skin tone as compared to a light-skinned woman. it shouldn't need to be said (but i will) that light-skinned women experience some forms of extreme prejudice as well and racism as well (and to some hardcore racist extremists there is absolutely no difference; dark or light you get hung) but there are privileges associated w/ being less dark. acknowledging privilege doesn't take away from the individual or group pain one will also experience in different contexts.

i'm dark (woe is me, whatever will i do) but there are some negative things i don't experience due to my class, education, accent, 'relative' attractiveness to some, whatever. we all have our struggles and our privileges. if everybody was able to have complete privilege alone w/out any negatives then the world and life would be too easy

and don't nobody call me out to repeat this or show statics as proof .

 

[ms-gg]

Can I say something?

More than anything, in this day and age, what is a bigger issue is not really racism or colorism, but classicism. I acknowledge that racism still does exist, racism is a real force, but what continues to plague the black community more so today in the 21st century is not how light or how dark we are, but access to resources and the ability to get ahead in this world.

Unemployment in the AA community is 16% and they aren't discriminating based off of who is lighter than who. There will always be people in the black community who will have personal issues with complexions within our community, at least for the foreseeable future. But at the end of the day, we really do need to stop dividing ourselves even further off of these trivial issues.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying open dialogue about the issue is divisive. What I'm saying is that people who believe that the number one problem plaguing people of the African diaspora is what shade of brown they are, is focused on the wrong cause.

 

[HappilyLiberal]

And that's why I make sure I neeeeeeeeeeeever reveal where I work over the net, or even hint at it. NEVER.

And now y'all know why I never post pics either. Some of these folks like to take mess to real life!

 

[naturalTAN]

Can I say something?

More than anything, in this day and age, what is a bigger issue is not really racism or colorism, but classicism. I acknowledge that racism still does exist, racism is a real force, but what continues to plague the black community more so today in the 21st century is not how light or how dark we are, but access to resources and the ability to get ahead in this world.

Unemployment in the AA community is 16% and they aren't discriminating based off of who is lighter than who. There will always be people in the black community who will have personal issues with complexions within our community, at least for the foreseeable future. But at the end of the day, we really do need to stop dividing ourselves even further off of these trivial issues.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying open dialogue about the issue is divisive. What I'm saying is that people who believe that the number one problem plaguing people of the African diaspora is what shade of brown they are, is focused on the wrong cause.

@ the bolded. Actually, there is still a huge disparity. In my Race & Ethnicity class last semester, we had statistics that showed how lighter blacks are more likely to get hired, get married, etc. still in the 21st century.

 

[naturalTAN]

Oh wow. That serious that you want to get her fired huh? ohwell:

some LHCF members need to seriously log off. it's never that serious to try and get someone fired over something that doesn't even involve you.