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At first I thought she was defending her, but the more I watched it the more I realized that she was taking stabs at her throughout the video and making fun of her. "You was probably throwing that sh*t making them mad and sh*t. Witcha Apollonia hair. (Who is Apollonia? Lol I need to google)." Then, "Watchu mad fo? You got hair down to yo ***." Did she say that everything is already made for her, like kinky curly, and mixed chix. "It's probably something you made up in yo head. You ain't comfortable with yo blackness." Wow, I feel sorry for Nikkii having to deal with all of this hate. I hope she stays strong.
 
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Apollonia is perhaps best known for co-starring in Prince's 1984 film Purple Rain and for having been the lead singer in the girl group Apollonia 6.
 
Apollonia is an actress from the 80s, she was Prince's counterpart in Purple Rain...she actually replaced Vanity for a short while in the group Vanity 6--it became Apollonia 6.
 

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The fact that ya'll don't know who Apollonia is just made me feel incredibly old and I'm only in my early 30's damn. :perplexed
 
Bluetopia said:
The fact that ya'll don't know who Apollonia is just made me feel incredibly old and I'm only in my early 30's damn. :perplexed
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Well you shouldn't feel bad, I spent a good portion of my life in Haiti. That's probably why I don't know, unless she was like some big international act.
 
Bluetopia said:
The fact that ya'll don't know who Apollonia is just made me feel incredibly old and I'm only in my early 30's damn. :perplexed
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LOL!!! I was like "who don't know Apollonia"!?!? Even youngsters watched Purple Rain right? But Nikki doesn't even have Apollonia hair!:lachen::lachen::lachen::lol::lol::grin:

reeko43 said:
I would think that the natural hair revolution would include anyone who wanted to learn more about the care and appreciation for natural hair. The problem is not just with people with kinky hair learning to love their hair in its natural state. The problem is with a society that needs to evolve toward a more positive and broader view of what is beautiful and acceptable. This includes AA men and women of all hair types, other races who are caring for/in a relationship with a person with a kinkier hair texture and anyone else who is supportive and want to learn more. The Civil Rights Movement included all who supported the movement, why can't the natural hair community?

As ar as natural hair journeys levels of acceptance, I don't think anyone is in a position to generalize what people go through. Not all 4a/b people had problems with acceptance of their hair. Some of the people with "good" hair may have had hair acceptance issues depending on kind of hair the majority of people had in that person's life. I have majority 3C hair but it might as well have been 5g in a family of people whose average hair types ranged from 2a - 3b. A person raised by a white family in a white neighborhood who had hair like the person in the video may be made to feel inferior. Until we walk in someone else's shoes, we will never truly know what another person may or may not experience.
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Trust me, all kinds of "curly" girls are learning to accept their hair. If you check out the general hair board on Naturallycurly.com, you'll see all kinds of sob stories about being an outsider and abusing hair to get "good" hair. Shoot, the chicks on the 2 board talk about having "frizzy hair" and when I look at the pics I'm helluva confused. But I'm not going to knock their experiences - I'm not in their shoes and who knows what shaped their opinions of themselves.
 
I feel her pain, IF this was true. But my issue is this....
HOW DOES SHE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THIS WAS THE REAL ISSUE? She said she stayed at the function for what 20 minutes? She felt snubbed by the person at the door or somone holding pamphlets and felt others were looking at her. I mean was her beautiful hair and light skin the real issue? Things to consider :Was HER attitude right? what was she wearing? Did she go in expecting people to do what??? praise her hair? or shun her? IDK. I just think 20 minutes isn't long enough for my puppie to warm up to strangers, much less get the feel for a group of women.
I mean, she may be dead on, but she might have been a bit premature in her assumptions. IDK. It just seems a little off to me.
 
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Still not feeling her light skin-ded :) plight. The more I think I about the more i'm like pssssssh! My DH says he feels for her...HAHAHA he's light skin-ded with coolie hair and light eyes I gave him the *side eye* too!

There are things in this life of which we have no control. I LOVE that fact that black comes in sooooo many different shades, textures & FLAVOURS! My own children are representative of VERY different shades & textures of black & I can see and appreciate the beauty in them all!
 
reeko43 said:
I would think that the natural hair revolution would include anyone who wanted to learn more about the care and appreciation for natural hair. The problem is not just with people with kinky hair learning to love their hair in its natural state. The problem is with a society that needs to evolve toward a more positive and broader view of what is beautiful and acceptable. This includes AA men and women of all hair types, other races who are caring for/in a relationship with a person with a kinkier hair texture and anyone else who is supportive and want to learn more. The Civil Rights Movement included all who supported the movement, why can't the natural hair community?
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Hmm.. this is where this discussion gets complicated.. The Civil Rights movement embraced people who supported their cause but the cause remained the same - mainly civil rights for a black people specifically. Other groups who were inspired by the Civil Rights movement created their own off-shoots - ex. Chicanos. In the same way when you start expanding a cause to include every fringe person or issue that's somewhat connected, the movement becomes diluted and eventually crippled. You need a specific singular focus to maintain effectiveness.

The real issue when you start adding everyone to the Natural Hair Community (latinas? whites?) is that issues specific to black women with kinky hair in American society will start to be downplayed because everyone has problems, whose to say yours are worse than mine..right?

Now how this applies to NikkiiDior in particular is not my call.. but the issue still remains..
 
Many would look at the first pic and say NikkiDior is frontin and knows good and well why some black women hate on her.

The second shows she has a whole lotta hair that takes time and effort to deal with as well..

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I think she's a little hypersensitive & insecure. Don't get me wrong... her hair is gorgeous... but it's not so extraordinary that I'd do a double take in the streets. I've probably seen thousands of girls with the same hair. I'm not understanding what all the supposed hoopla, shock, awe, & discrimination is about.

I'm not saying no one ever hates on her hair. ANYBODY who's on a healthy hair journey is going to have "haters". A girl with a gigantic luscious 4b wash & go can experience just as much, if not more, "shade" than she does.

However, I'm not completely sure if her shade is always hair related... Or that there is always shadiness when she thinks there is.

How many ladies have experienced what you thought was random shade from a random woman & just kept it moving and didn't think twice about it? *raises hand* I would like to think we all have. Most of us don't overanalyze it, jump to conclusions, and make an emotional YT video reply to "them & they".

I feel bad b/c I think she has other emotional issues to deal with and it has very little to do with others & a lot to do with herself.


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Raspberry said:
Many would look at the first pic and say NikkiDior is frontin and knows good and well why some black women hate on her.

The second shows she has a whole lotta hair that takes time and effort to deal with as well..

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My only thought was...why is she detangling it dry?
 
We live in a system of White (light) Supremacy. It effects the entire world. In this system white (light) is the top (better/best), then anything that is half, part or some of looking white or light is rewarded in this system. Further reward is given to those that have the "preferred" physical characteristics, smaller nose, light colorful eyes and smooth naturally straight hair. This can produce envy from some individuals that have half, part, some or all of the features that are the counter opposite to what the system prefers. It is not that such people will all be hateful or envious, but all will be inundated with the programming of what the system prefers. Such people will consume endlessly to attain features that are preferred by the system or at least some part. Dependent on the individual or how the light vs dark dynamic is being played economically will determine what actions you'll see from the darker peoples. Profitable industries have been built because of the created since of lack in the darker people. The Light vs Dark dynamic isn't anything new. The system's influence starts at birth and expects complete conformity, not simply on a physical level, but mental submission is required as well. Don't believe me, that's okay. What is that saying that christians have? "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" LOL!


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wavezncurlz said:
IMHO, it shouldn't have mattered what texture her hair is - she deserved to be treated with respect. She could have walked up in there with bone straight hair looking to transition, she could have been a white woman with a biracial child looking for information, she could have a child with 4b hair, or she could have just been looking to be accepted as part of the natural community. Bottom line, bad customer service and rudeness is uncalled for and in the end, the organizers and their vendors lost a potential customer.
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This is the truth right there!:yep: It's all about the way you treat potential customers and those who may be curious about going natural. Stuff like this turn people off and deter others from supporting similar events events held in the future. The fact is that the people sponsoring the expo treated her as a lesser person. They did not give her the services they gave the other people, according to her. So many won't understand because they never experience it. We even have hair boards that do this very same thing. The separation by hair textures runs very deep. The terms "good and "bad" hair. It's just something the natural hair community will continue to struggle with.:rolleyes:
 
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Raine054 said:
If you watch the entire video you'll see she's actually making some really good points. A lot of it is tongue-in-cheek.

I love when she says "You already on the perm box, you already got mixed chicks, you got kinky curly, you got miss jessie's, they don't even cater to itches like me anymore...what are they doing to you?":lachen:
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I generally can't stand her videos. She is too vulgar for me but I loved this one. She had me laughing from beginning to end and yes she did have some good points. I can sympathize with ND's hurt feelings but I do recognize the realities that are out there.
 
SmileyNY said:
I think she's a little hypersensitive & insecure. Don't get me wrong... her hair is gorgeous... but it's not so extraordinary that I'd do a double take in the streets. I've probably seen thousands of girls with the same hair. I'm not understanding what all the supposed hoopla, shock, awe, & discrimination is about.

I'm not saying no one ever hates on her hair. ANYBODY who's on a healthy hair journey is going to have "haters". A girl with a gigantic luscious 4b wash & go can experience just as much, if not more, "shade" than she does.

However, I'm not completely sure if her shade is always hair related... Or that there is always shadiness when she thinks there is.

How many ladies have experienced what you thought was random shade from a random woman and just kept it moving & didn't think twice about it? *raises hand* I would like to think we all have. Most of us don't overanalyze it, jump to conclusions, and make an emotional YT video reply to "them & they".

I feel bad b/c I think she has other emotional issues to deal with and it has very little to do with others & a lot to do with herself.


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^^^I agree. I looked at her other videos and to me she seems to be chronically melancholy about something all the time. Her hair and she is beautiful though. I hate that (they and them) made her feel uncomfortable.
 
Raine054 said:
If you watch the entire video you'll see she's actually making some really good points. A lot of it is tongue-in-cheek.

I love when she says "You already on the perm box, you already got mixed chicks, you got kinky curly, you got miss jessie's, they don't even cater to itches like me anymore...what are they doing to you?":lachen:
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yeah. If you can cover your virginal, holy ears and endure her vulgarities, she usually makes a lot of sense. She just expresses herself... very aggressively. She's straightforward and you never need to read between the lines with her.
 
I just think some of us are taking this hair stuff too far! It's just hair. HAIR!

All of this drama over hair....

We need to get back in touch with reality. There are more serious problems in the world.

Not to discredit the girl but,sometimes you have to just put on your big girl panties and move past ignorance. The longer you wallow in your feelings the more wound up you will get. All black people don't hate her and she has got to get some tough skin. Life aint easy and if she is crying over hair...smh.
 
What hair expo did she go to? That was hella rude. I would put them on blast.

Himay10nence is a fool! I couldn't listen to the entire thing.
 
Klearli said:
And ill say it. My sister with very fine 3b hair, and light skin (but not light enough to be teased) was praised her whole life for her hair. When my sister wears a puff, its cute. If I dare wear my hair in a natural state around certain family members, I will get snide comments, and around my grandmother? (When are you getting a perm? Why are you wearing your hair nappy now?) Whoa. My father having a rule in his house that we can't wear wigs (no woman should have one hair in the day and a different one at night, *** a protective style). But... No one would call my sisters hair nappy. She doesn't know what an ssk is.


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I have this issue, too. My older sis is biracial and she has the "good hair." I wouldn't go far as her being praised, but to family and friends she was always known, "As the girl or sister wit the pretty hair." My brother is very vocal about it. He hates when i wear my hair out, but doesn't say ish when my sis does. Even my mother asked my younger one time when she was about to go on an interview, "Are you sure you want to wear your hair like that?" (she had them in twists).
 
Raine054 said:
If you watch the entire video you'll see she's actually making some really good points. A lot of it is tongue-in-cheek.

I love when she says "You already on the perm box, you already got mixed chicks, you got kinky curly, you got miss jessie's, they don't even cater to itches like me anymore...what are they doing to you?":lachen:
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She likes the F word:look:

But check this out....she may have been trying to be funny about how "light skinned" chicks have that "good hurr" and how we don't need to be going to no Natural Hair events...but if you listen to her msg throughout the video...its just encouraging more of a division.

So just because i'm light skinned i don't have issues with detangling...or being natural period?

All those who think this:------> _/ and put your hand down.

I'm sick of this whole light vs. dark crap! Okay....so it's there...but how can YOU stop it?! I don't cater to it....bc even though i'm light skinned...a dark skinned chick don't realize that i TOO recieve discrimination from whites, hispanics, asians....so you don't know until you walk in someone else's shoes.

:nono::nono::nono: Our community needs to tighten up fa real.
 
Everyone has their own stuff to deal with, light skin, dark skin, fat, skinny, kinky hair, coily hair, no hair, someone else's hair.

I'm not going to sit here and discount someone else's experiences nor try to downplay what they've been through cause I don't know what they've been through, nor have they been through what I've gone through.

I've had my own personal shade from members of various hair boards and whatnot that tried to tell me xyz because my texture wasn't like theirs when THEY made threads asking for suggestions.

You know I say to them? Screw you chick and I hope your hair falls off. Have a nice day.

There are too many things I can be doing than to worry about someone being nasty and too many nice people out there I can be socializing with instead.

The slave @$$ mentality in our folks will NEVER go away cause that stuff is too deeply rooted, but I just can't be bothered to let other folks take me there.

Love Nikki Dior's videos though. I need to give my girl a hug.
 
IMO every hair type has their pros and cons

on my dads side the hairtypes range from (literally) 1b-3b/c and everyones hair is very fine. my aunt has very fine 2a/b hair and its NEVER grown past her shoulders and its not like she has unhealthy hair practices because she doesnt get relaxers and she washes her hair once a week and roller sets it and does pincurls for the rest of the week. for some of my cousins, although their hair looks nice when they wash&go when they straighten it it doesnt look that good due to the fact that their hair is so fine&thin it looks very "limp" and it gets frizzy very easily and its hard for them to find products that wont weigh their hair down
my grandma always told me (back when i was natural) although my hair was nappy but i had the longest&thickest hair out of all my cousins (my natural texture is mostly 4a with some sprinkles of 3c):rolleyes:
none of my cousins from my dads side has had hair as long as mine, except for one, despite the fact that they all have "good hair"
 
If we could ask the ladies at the hair expo why they treated Nikki Dior so badly, how many of them would even know who she is?

I am sorry she has been discriminated against, **** I am sorry I have been discriminated against. I hope she has at least found a support system through this video.
 
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