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Raspberry said:
The real issue when you start adding everyone to the Natural Hair Community (latinas? whites?) is that issues specific to black women with kinky hair in American society will start to be downplayed because everyone has problems, whose to say yours are worse than mine..right?
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Well, there was a Latina who was posting on here earlier this year talking about her "big chop" and the discrimination she faced being curly haired and refusing to perm in the Dominican Republic. Her texture was looser than NikkiDior's. I didn't see one post where someone had a problem with her claiming to be "natural".

Not addressing you Raspberry but who sets the rules here? Only 4a/b's get to claim membership in the natural hair community? I know full well the issues people have had regarding kinky hair but is the natural hair movement just an opportunity for 4a/b's to retaliate and further discriminate? Someone let me know cause I don't want to have anything to do with a group like that.
 
empressri said:
Everyone has their own stuff to deal with, light skin, dark skin, fat, skinny, kinky hair, coily hair, no hair, someone else's hair.

I'm not going to sit here and discount someone else's experiences nor try to downplay what they've been through cause I don't know what they've been through, nor have they been through what I've gone through.

I've had my own personal shade from members of various hair boards and whatnot that tried to tell me xyz because my texture wasn't like theirs when THEY made threads asking for suggestions.

You know I say to them? Screw you chick and I hope your hair falls off. Have a nice day.:lachen::lachen::lachen:

There are too many things I can be doing than to worry about someone being nasty and too many nice people out there I can be socializing with instead.

The slave @$$ mentality in our folks will NEVER go away cause that stuff is too deeply rooted, but I just can't be bothered to let other folks take me there.

Love Nikki Dior's videos though. I need to give my girl a hug.
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ITA............
 
I came back in here to say why can't we ever be on the same page with one another. It's so frustrating that something so enlightening and beautiful is being turned into a competition.
We've all seen the positive attention being natural has created in the media and social networks. And because of that I can totally see this turning into a backlash saying that we bully our "light skinned good haired" women. Ya'll already know black women always in the heat, folks just looking for another reason to talk ish.....and where giving it to them.

Divide and conquer......remember that!
 
Ah, see. It's long, but that's common here. Nothing else remarkable about it. Looks like nice cottony black girl hair to me. :yep:

She would be the one giving side eyes at my family reunion... waves AND silk texture.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that perhaps she had something in her teeth, or her slip was showing. Now that I've seen the photos, I don't believe her hair would be all that something to stare at at a hair show where lots of beautiful hair would be in attendance.

I agree with Empressri - Everyone has their own battles to wage. If it's not hair then it's tummy fat. If your hair is "easier" than what's common, then thank your lucky stars that you can put that energy into some other area of your life that could use the work.
 
*Felt bad, but LMAO'd*

Chameleonchick said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG9shdCNxs&feature=feedu
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HIMAY10ENCE...Girl...

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I feel bad for her and I don't doubt what she experienced is true. People assume so much about peope that have the supposed "good hair". That they only have to put water on it for it to act right, that they don't need or get relaxers, etc. So far from the truth. And I will be the first to say that all light skin people don't have 3b/3c or whatever. I sure in the heck don't and I really don't care but I think this is another thing that is assumed by alot of people. People just need to stop the madness and quit speaking on how other folks feel about being light and dark skin. Noone knows the others struggles.

I felt like reaching thru the screen on the chick. She saying Nikkii wanted attention from her videos but I think she the one that wants attention and her opinion was neither desired or required just like Himay10nence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgz_UWvmW10&feature=related
 
I've never been to a natural hair expo, but I thought that a variety of textures were represented at these gatherings? This is what I thought based on the pics and YT vids that I've seen of them. Was this not one of the bigger natural hair expos? This was a lil rinky dink one? I wouldn't expect that to happen at...say...the World Natural Hair show in Atlanta or something equally as big.

But I feel bad for her; she seemed really hurt :( Like she made the video and then cried :(

I think 'having it easier' depends on what you're trying to do with your natural hair. If you like to wear it straight most of the time (less time straightening, less SSKs to be seen on your straightened hair) or put it in a ponytail and have it be slicked down, etc, then hopefully you have a looser texture. If you like twists (outs), braids (outs), chunky fros, microphone fros (nonie), and other styles that require your hair to be 'up' and 'hold' in place, then hopefully you have a tighter texture. Personally, I'm trying to do the latter with MY natural hair, so I'm glad I don't have a looser texture lol.

And I think that's where the term 'good hair' came from, back in the day, after afros were played out and everyone wanted straight hair. Loosely curly hair was good hair because it was easier to straighten or you didn't even need a relaxer (for it to be straight). That's all.

I do wonder why the term 'good hair' was never applied to people who could get perfect afros easily. You know, during the black power movement, before relaxers. Because this would mean that the people with tightly curled hair had it easier...in terms of getting an afro (and not having it be floppy, etc)...right?
 
lesedi

Me too. I can see both sides.

I feel for her and she shouldnt be treated like that because of hair, but for alot of black people hair is just not hair.. Im not going to act like a looser texture isnt easier because MOST times it is. Maybe not everytime but most times it is.
 
I just want to know where all of the folks with a the heads of one side of looser curls and the other side of tighter curls are, since it's "fact" that a looser texture is easier to deal with.

Easier in terms of what exactly?

Anything can be hard to deal with if you don't know how the hell to approach it. I've met folks with the kinkiest head of hair and no complaints talking about how hard it is to deal with.
 
Well... I looked at the pictures from the event on facebook and I saw quite a few light skinned women who seemed to be getting along just fine (I know Nikkii didn't say it was because of her color that she was getting such treatment, but it was brought up in another woman's response video and I think earlier in this thread. So that clearly isn't the problem). There also seems to be a light skinned woman with a looser hair curl pattern that seems quite happy....She's cheesing to the camera. I'm starting to think that it was in Nikkii's head. I don't think people were treating her that way because of her hair texture. I think this is something that she has carried with her, her whole life, and she needs to let it go otherwise she'll continue to be unhappy. I mean she said she stayed there for 20 minutes? She didn't really give it much of a chance in my opinion. Did people really have a problem with her? Or did she let her insecurities get the best of her? I'm not saying this type of discrimination doesn't exist, but if you go looking for something, you are going to find it. And that goes for anything in life. Why let other people control and dominate your life like that? Take control of your own life and don't sacrifice your own happiness.

Pictures from the event: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150441666957463.418106.510442462&type=3&l=fb03907193
 
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AHeadOfCoils said:
She is low-key making fun of her. She was saying that NikkiDior gets to be on the cover of a relaxer box, use KinkyCurly, Mixed Chicks, MissJessies, and that she doesn't need to go to a meet up because she has "good hair". She also suggested that NikkiDior went to the meetup to make all the other "NaturalHairHoes" mad. :blush:
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Low key? It's pretty blatant. Lol. When I heard that Appollonia stuff, I nearly fell out of my chair! :lachen: The whole video is pure satire, and if you weren't sure about it through most the the video, once you get to the last minute, it's pretty darn obvious that she is not on Nikkii's "team"
 
Im glad that she made this video because she is shedding light on the discrimnation against light skin naturals with looser curl patterns, but people are going to use this as a scapegoat to go off on light skin naturals with looser textures.
 
SmileyNY said:
I think she's a little hypersensitive & insecure. Don't get me wrong... her hair is gorgeous... but it's not so extraordinary that I'd do a double take in the streets. I've probably seen thousands of girls with the same hair. I'm not understanding what all the supposed hoopla, shock, awe, & discrimination is about.

I'm not saying no one ever hates on her hair. ANYBODY who's on a healthy hair journey is going to have "haters". A girl with a gigantic luscious 4b wash & go can experience just as much, if not more, "shade" than she does.

However, I'm not completely sure if her shade is always hair related... Or that there is always shadiness when she thinks there is.

How many ladies have experienced what you thought was random shade from a random woman & just kept it moving and didn't think twice about it? *raises hand* I would like to think we all have. Most of us don't overanalyze it, jump to conclusions, and make an emotional YT video reply to "them & they".

I feel bad b/c I think she has other emotional issues to deal with and it has very little to do with others & a lot to do with herself.


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Exactly.:yep:
 
JOI said:
another video about nikkii smh!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwG87KKN8U&feature=feedu
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Is this a contest about who can respond in the most ignorant way possible? Is there a video response to NikkiDior that presents a more intelligent point of view? These type of videos only further convince me that what NikkieDior experienced is real. People like this who can go off like this rolling their neck and contributing to negative stereotypes about Black women can't possibly behave any better in a real life setting.
 
After dealing with my niece's 3 something natural bsl/midback hair I can empathize. Her hair is gorgeous and what everyone refers to as "good hair" but it takes me the same effort and time to shampoo/condish/detangle/style/dry her hair as my 4b texlaxed hair, thick bsl hair.
 
Exactly! Even after 3 videos I'm not sure why she thinks the shade she felt was over her hair.:perplexed People throw shade randomly for a myriad of different reasons. For all we know the woman she feels was throwing shade and ignoring her could have been pondering her grocery list.

Apparently this has a couple of people in an uproar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgz_UWvmW10&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwG87KKN8U&feature=feedu

http://youtu.be/uhG9shdCNxs

I should add, looser curl patterns take just as much time as 4a/4b hair. My brother's daughters have a time with their hair and have to redo it often. I do not know many 3a, 3b, 3c textured ladies that can rock a style for a full week like I can with my 4a hair.


SmileyNY said:
I think she's a little hypersensitive & insecure. Don't get me wrong... her hair is gorgeous... but it's not so extraordinary that I'd do a double take in the streets. I've probably seen thousands of girls with the same hair. I'm not understanding what all the supposed hoopla, shock, awe, & discrimination is about.

I'm not saying no one ever hates on her hair. ANYBODY who's on a healthy hair journey is going to have "haters". A girl with a gigantic luscious 4b wash & go can experience just as much, if not more, "shade" than she does.

However, I'm not completely sure if her shade is always hair related... Or that there is always shadiness when she thinks there is.

How many ladies have experienced what you thought was random shade from a random woman & just kept it moving and didn't think twice about it? *raises hand* I would like to think we all have. Most of us don't overanalyze it, jump to conclusions, and make an emotional YT video reply to "them & they".

I feel bad b/c I think she has other emotional issues to deal with and it has very little to do with others & a lot to do with herself.


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*didn't read the whole thread*
1) that was rude and out of order what they did at the expo to ol girl. if you gon do all that, just put on the flier "4a/b true naps only" and KIM.
2) Himay10nence is ****** hilarious-she reminds me so much of a friend i have IRL. i would so hang with her she seems mad cool.
3) i wanna drop a grenade in the whole dayum "natural hair communatee" cause this **** is getting on my nerves now. gettin so extraaaa. :look:
 
reeko43 said:
Well, there was a Latina who was posting on here earlier this year talking about her "big chop" and the discrimination she faced being curly haired and refusing to perm in the Dominican Republic. Her texture was looser than NikkiDior's. I didn't see one post where someone had a problem with her claiming to be "natural".

Not addressing you Raspberry but who sets the rules here? Only 4a/b's get to claim membership in the natural hair community? I know full well the issues people have had regarding kinky hair but is the natural hair movement just an opportunity for 4a/b's to retaliate and further discriminate? Someone let me know cause I don't want to have anything to do with a group like that.
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Thank you for your response and I hear you :yep:

Well .. my real opinion is that the term "natural hair community" sounds nice but it can't deliver everything that some folks are expecting. Chemical free hair isn't really enough to form solid community around for the large group that comprises "women of color". If you want to find support and information to take care of your chemical-free or unstraightened hair, that's great, but when it becomes more than that there's confusion.

Also after reading this thread and thinking a bit I agree with @PersuasiveBeauty and @SmileyNY that NikkiDior most likely has a lot of internal baggage she's carrying around regarding this hair/skin stuff so her perception may be off in the way she's interpreting the actions of others at the expo. It's unlikely everyone else in the room was 4b/c and darkskinned. I mean 3 videos where she's on the verge of tears? Just extra...

ETA: Himay10nence is vulgar but she seems to mean well and I can feel where she's coming from. QueenNaturalBeauty on the other hand is straight crazy, no chaser.
 
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Raspberry said:
Thank you for your response and I hear you :yep:

Well .. my real opinion is that the term "natural hair community" sounds nice but it can't deliver everything that some folks are expecting. Chemical free hair isn't really enough to form solid community around for the large group that comprises "women of color". If you want to find support and information to take care of your chemical-free or unstraightened hair, that's great, but when it becomes more than that there's confusion.
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I agree :yep:
 
This whole fiasco is funny. Her video, the response videos, the PC comments, the IDGAF comments...all of it is hilarious!
 
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