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@LittleLuxe

They will know once the claim ends. THats the thing about paypal if the seller has already taken the money out, paypal isn't going to reimburse you :nono: They will grant it in your favor but they won't reimburse you until the seller places money in the account again. Happened to me with some palettes i ordered! I won the claim but because she took the money out of her account I didn't get anything :-( ANd when I filed the claim with my bank, they got my money back, but my paypal account was negative. So i still ended up paying for it.

I didn't even know paypal is that dirty. Might as well pay with your credit card (even on paypal and not draft from your bank) and always file a claim through your credit card.

Cause the bolded is some straight tomfoolery.
 
3. People don't read everything you write. Due to lack of time, energy, or desire...folks don't read the messages. They look for what they want on a site. I'm a big reader so I figure everyone else does the same.

Why blame the victims and be nasty? That's uncalled for and tactless. I think the biggest problem here is that people DID read everything that was written, it just didn't make any sense!

I'm glad you ladies got refunds!
 
"I'm a big reader, so I figure everyone else is"

Girl, please. She's so fancy, but she was going to open an online-based business with an old ragged computer? She reads so much, but never read her own emails from PayPal and members over the last few weeks? "Oh, the $5.00 shipping should have made you pause" ok, then why did you ever even put that on there?! It makes NO sense and I don't appreciate being talked to like I'm a dummy, yet she had no idea what was going in with the business SHE set up!

If she was preparing to relaunch the business, what about the ingredients and supplies to prepare the products? If she was aiming for an Oct. 1st relaunch, what about that? She just purchased the stuff (or didn't because it was all a sham), and made up a website, linked to her PayPal account, paid $6.50 to advertise/post about it here, then "forgot all about it" for 22 days?Yeah freaking right. All of the people who run businesses anywhere, all over the world have other jobs, kids, and significant others...what does that have to do with anything?

She and donewit it or whoever saw that we were going to be relentless about getting answers and that is why we finally got a response. So, basically if we had not pressed the issue, our money would have quietly remained in her PayPal account until the dispute period passed, right?

Then she tries to throw God in the mix like we're supposed say, "Oh yeah, praise Jesus for PayPal!" She could have kept those backhanded insults to herself, said sorry, and processed the refunds...IF she was sincere and it was truly a mistake. Her comments lead me to believe that it was not a sincere mistake. I'm done with this mess ***drops mic***
 
Good Morning Ladies,

I am happy to see that refunds are being received (I got a notice in my email this morning).

Patient1
If you still out there, let me say thank you for coming back to post an update no matter how it comes across. :rolleyes:

I just want to say that I can't understand or believe that someone of your caliber (teacher, mother, business woman, etc.) would announce an October 1st startup date and NEVER return to the website nor this thread to give people that you KNEW were waiting to order an update. It would have only taken a minute or two. How poor and inconsiderate you are. That is no way to treat your sisters nor run a business. I did read your posts on the website up until last night and you didn't update it until hell broke loose.
Many of us have busy lives, illnesses, etc., but that's no excuse to not take 2-3 minutes of your time to tie up lose ends knowing that people were waiting.
Didn't you know that? I would have even if I was blind, crippled or crazy.

I am so terribly disappointed in you and your way of handling this. I'm sorry I even gave you a shout out especially with the explanation you gave us after all this time.

I don't know what type of relationship you have with DWI, but it sounds flakey. Good luck to you with you and your "bestie." :rolleyes:

I hope that you understand the bitter taste you've left in our mouths and if you really do decide to "start up" again, pray that none of us are left to warn people of the irresponsible treatment we received as your customers.

You have a great product and it's a shame that you ruined that reputation, at least in my eyes.

I should have known it was too good to be true for her and then you to pop in after I started the thread and then for us to be treated without care.

Peace & Deuces to you and your friend.
 
You have a great product and it's a shame that you ruined that reputation, at least in my eyes.
^^ This is why I subscribed to the thread and waited to order. I really wanted to try the product. Shoot, I still want to at least smell that oil that errybody was raving about :lol:. oh well...hopefully someone can recreate that scent and I'll try that. I make products and I will tell the customer up front if I will need time to order the raw materials or if they need to pay up front because they want something like real sandalwood oil and that's expensive. I wonder if that is what she was trying to do, but wasn't upfront about it...
Seriously if anyone knows a reputable business that has an oil scent close to the H2H, please let me know. Glad you guys got your money back...
 
I didn't even pay for this stuff...and i'm tired of reading excuses of "i've been busy". "I had no time" from people who want to sell goods to you. That is the go-to excuse from people who simply are too lazy to do what they have to do. It doesn't make any sense for grown people to NOT inform.

KEYWORD: INFORM. Like what is the problem with informing people and updating people. I don't even think the folks who did buy would have had a problem if the date had to get pushed back. But the let the people know!
 
This has not been a good year for small businesses on this forum :nono:

The only person I can give any kind of props to is Supergirl, not only are her products great but when there was an error in what was shipped best believe 15 minutes after I sent the email she was on it. (I find it so cute how this turned into a Silk Dreams/Supergirl appreciation thread :grin: ). I know running a business ain't easy but (Mental)Patient1 sounded happier to be talking to her friend again than outraged or apologetic for what you ladies went through.

Wow...like another poster said I'm sorry I'll never get a chance to smell it since so many people made it sound so good but that chick sounds batty. Patient1 I think maybe you should just close up shop now and save yourself some trouble, you ruined a good thing sister :nono:
 
Glad Everyone Who Paid Received A Refund.

Its A Shame Because Her Products Are The Bomb. In My PJ Days Hair2Heaven Was My Staple Hair Care Line. The Oils Was To Die For, The Scents Were Heavenly, The EndAll............Lawd I Love Those Products.:lol:
I've Never, Ever Had A Problem When I Placed Orders With Her. EVER.

I'm At A Lost For Words By Her Response/Actions With This Whole Situation.:nono:

Craziness!!!!
 
I didn't even know paypal is that dirty. Might as well pay with your credit card (even on paypal and not draft from your bank) and always file a claim through your credit card.

Cause the bolded is some straight tomfoolery.

westNDNbeauty
That's what I'm saying. I paid with my CC and they refunded me back but this causes PayPal to make my account negative since my CC company took money from them (they are the middle men remember). So I had to pay PayPal back because they threatened collections. :-( thankfully she didn't remove the money from her account in this case.
 
People keep saying these hair products were the bomb, but I never heard single peep about them outside of this thread and I've been around the boards since '08, watched hundreds of videos, and read dozens of blogs. I'm wondering how few people actually ever patronized P1's original business and experienced the supposed fabulous service.
 
All I can say is Wow! I've been lurking, and following this thread from the begining. I was on the page ready to order (Super Big PJ here), but didn't at the last minute, because her page looked so unprofessional. Plus I wanted to see how quickly everyone got their stuff. So, very glad everyone got their money back! This was pure craziness...
 
I was excited about this product too, i had never heard of it before..sorry this happened to the ladies that purchased. The good news is that if you used your credit card to make the purchase, you can contact your bank directly and tell them that you want to dispute the charge as you have not received the product, and are unable to successfully contact the company to cancel the charge and that you believe the company isn't a real company as there is mo way to reach the owner.

Your bank will charge the purchase back to the merchants bank and you should see a credit on your bank account within 1-3 business days.

Sorry for a duplicate if this has already been posted , I just started reading this thread again and didn't read all the posts.
 
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Originally Posted by growinghealthyhair
LittleLuxe

"They will know once the claim ends. THats the thing about paypal if the seller has already taken the money out, paypal isn't going to reimburse you They will grant it in your favor but they won't reimburse you until the seller places money in the account again. Happened to me with some palettes i ordered! I won the claim but because she took the money out of her account I didn't get anything :-( ANd when I filed the claim with my bank, they got my money back, but my paypal account was negative. So i still ended up paying for it."

Wow, I didn't know paypal was like that, I've never used their service before.
 
wow, this went south fast, i just came back on to the thread to get the website to place an order and saw this........Hope all who placed orders get their money back, and hopefully the vendor is ok, you never knows what can happen in life.
 
@westNDNbeauty
That's what I'm saying. I paid with my CC and they refunded me back but this causes PayPal to make my account negative since my CC company took money from them (they are the middle men remember). So I had to pay PayPal back because they threatened collections. :-( thankfully she didn't remove the money from her account in this case.


Thanks for this info! I will be sticking to direct credit card payments. Paypal got some undercover foolishness going on.

How paypal gonna put your account in negative cause the credit card company favored your claim? Out. of. control.
 
Thanks for this info! I will be sticking to direct credit card payments. Paypal got some undercover foolishness going on.

How paypal gonna put your account in negative cause the credit card company favored your claim? Out. of. control.

Exactly. But I guess it's because they are taking he money from PayPal and not the seller. It just really sucks. It's just get not to spend large amounts thru PayPal.
 
People keep saying these hair products were the bomb, but I never heard single peep about them outside of this thread and I've been around the boards since '08, watched hundreds of videos, and read dozens of blogs. I'm wondering how few people actually ever patronized P1's original business and experienced the supposed fabulous service.
I bought a jar of End-All I-don't-remember-how-long-ago. Like january noir's jar, the label has faded. I got the Samadhi scent everyone raved about (thought it was really strong). One thing I remember about the transaction was that it took a looooong time to come and there was no communication. I thought it was odd and was a little put off but didn't report that here because everyone was stanning so hard for her and her business that I figured it was an isolated incident and didn't want to be on the receiving end of what happens around here. As for my transaction, the service wasn't so fabulous.

I watched and subscribed to this thread hoping for more End-All. I'm glad everyone is getting back their money and it's sad all this has happened. Maybe @Supergirl can replicate the product.:look::poke:
 
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It is time for the operator(s) of this site to take a definitive stand against the less than reputable vendors that seek to prey upon members, or proffer substandard products/service. Clearly, there is a need for the institution of a new framework that will effectively address this issue. Enough is enough already.



Seriously! B/c thanks just wasn't enough!
 
Wish there were thanks on the app.

What I don't understand is...
1. If there was no intention to sell why were we able to order 10/1? I couldn't order anytime before that. Launch date FAQ MSG was cryptic also talking bout "we'll see" or something similar. But we sho was able to order on stated launch day
2. How is it that now the website can be edited with postings and hidden pages not seen? Now there are no products available. Why was this not the case before?

Not that my questions will be answered. Don't even matter. It's all lies & a scam that back fired when we all realized no one heard or got jack after 20 days.
 
I bumped this thread once also to see if she was gonna launch....I believe she started to launch but just realized she couldn't meet the demand and being the unprofessional person she is--- just flaked out and decided not to update. I'm glad you all got your $$$$ back though. I just can't believe she thought every1 was gonna buy the BS excuse she came up with in the end. I wouldn't have minded her just being woman enough to admit she couldn't meet the demand, but to just flake out just makes what she did all the more childish and unprofessional---and I hate unprofessionalism...with a capital H!

Thats why people don't want to help the small businesses much anymore---especially those run by our own brothers and sisters....people don't understand---your product may not even be really the "End All" but good customer service keeps $$$ money in your pocket and regular clients in your rolodex. Gosh she is so basic. Ugh
 
I bought a jar of End-All I-don't-remember-how-long-ago. Like january noir's jar, the label has faded. I got the Samadhi scent everyone raved about (thought it was really strong). One thing I remember about the transaction was that it took a looooong time to come and there was no communication. I thought it was odd and was a little put off but didn't report that here because everyone was stanning so hard for her and her business that I figured it was an isolated incident and didn't want to be on the receiving end of what happens around here. As for my transaction, the service wasn't so fabulous.

I'd like to think the days of hardcore stanning have died by now and I think it's the fact it was so many beloved, trusted, here since the forum began members that killed it. It's hard now to give folks the benefit of the doubt because it usually is what it looks like :look: I'm sure even some people who had doubts were keeping quiet with this one because patient1 came so highly recommended.

After MopTop...:nono:
 
Out of all the fukcery in this thread the thing got me going OH HELL NO is all these tidbits about paypal that I didn't know. If you win a claim against a person that already closed their account they won't refund the money and then if you decide to go through your credit card company then they take it out of your account and put you in the negative? OH HELL NO! That's some shady stuff right there.
 
I bought a jar of End-All I-don't-remember-how-long-ago. Like january noir's jar, the label has faded. I got the Samadhi scent everyone raved about (thought it was really strong). One thing I remember about the transaction was that it took a looooong time to come and there was no communication. I thought it was odd and was a little put off but didn't report that here because everyone was stanning so hard for her and her business that I figured it was an isolated incident and didn't want to be on the receiving end of what happens around here. As for my transaction, the service wasn't so fabulous.

I watched and subscribed to this thread hoping for more End-All. I'm glad everyone is getting back their money and it's sad all this has happened. Maybe @Supergirl can replicate the product.:look::poke:

You know what? After H2H closed the last time, SweetCashew started Shescentit with a product called Seyani Hair Butter. A lot of H2H fans converted to the Seyani butter.
 
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