Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural.....

[danniegirl]

@danniegirl - I don't know if you just trying to clown me or what, but you're putting words in my mouth and changing what I said into something different now. How come you are not reading everything I post and not understanding what I am saying? erplexed erplexed erplexed

I said nothing about hair styles changing the physical hair structure permanently like chemicals. I said hair styles change/alter the appearance of your hair temporarily. Temporarily simply means "short period of time". Twistouts do change the appearance of your hair temporarily, whether it is a few days, 1 week, 2 weeks, or a month. But after you wash it, your hair goes back to it's original state. Hair styles stretch out your hair into a different texture or pattern. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. Change and alter mean the same thing to me.

I see where you even deleted the last part of my post where I said I believe twistouts, braidouts, and heat styled hair IS natural hair! It's like you want to be in disagreement for no reason. There's nothing to really disagree with.

ok 1st of all

i want to apologize :blowkiss: i seriously didnt mean to come off rude or make it seem as if i was trying to clown you that was not my intentions at all I'm sorry.

When we spoke about hair textures being changed even temporarily from a twist out or braid out I was going off the 1st post (i cant multi quote im not that fancy) well that post that spoke about braids out not being natural cause it could make a type 4 hair look like a non type 4.

Anyhow i know you didnt write the first one but when you sort of kind of agreed i thought about my own hair and its ability to only look like my own hair no matter what i do to it. So i thought i could explain that through the meaning of texture and physical structure.

Ok so i took 4 left turns instead of making a right but i was trying to make the point that it really doesn't change anything about the hair except the look.

Thats neither hair (pun intended) nor there i only left out part of what you said because i didnt think it was relevant to what i was trying to respond to i didnt dismiss what you said at all, and after carefully re-reading the post and thinking about what you said i understand what you were saying and in all actuality i said something similar in another post about hair being braid trained.

Although i dont believe it changes the hair not even temporarily i do think that it will give the appearance of something different and it could cause someone else to think differently about the hair in question.

Once again i apologize for coming off rude and dismissive i really do respect valid opinions.

 

[MsLi@512]

Nope. It is for ANYONE of colour wishing to grow long hair. Threads tended to be more about growth and retention than how "natural" your hair is. New techniques, combos and products were reviewed constantly and people contributed and were respected for their opinions whether their hair was natural, relaxed, texlaxed, 2a, 3c, 4z etc. It would be nice to have that back and leave the Nazi intolerance and ignorance to other sites.

It would be great to get back to this. I hate the direction these boards are heading towards. So much intolerance and disrespect.
Why is it tolerated on this forum?

 

[chellero]

@ a twist out not being natural. I guess I will have to roll out of bed with my fro flat on one side and only moisturize by standing in God's natural rain while using the wind as a comb in order to be truly natural.

 

[Poohbear]

ok 1st of all

i want to apologize :blowkiss: i seriously didnt mean to come off rude or make it seem as if i was trying to clown you that was not my intentions at all I'm sorry.

When we spoke about hair textures being changed even temporarily from a twist out or braid out I was going off the 1st post (i cant multi quote im not that fancy) well that post that spoke about braids out not being natural cause it could make a type 4 hair look like a non type 4.

Anyhow i know you didnt write the first one but when you sort of kind of agreed i thought about my own hair and its ability to only look like my own hair no matter what i do to it. So i thought i could explain that through the meaning of texture and physical structure.

Ok so i took 4 left turns instead of making a right but i was trying to make the point that it really doesn't change anything about the hair except the look.

Thats neither hair (pun intended) nor there i only left out part of what you said because i didnt think it was relevant to what i was trying to respond to i didnt dismiss what you said at all, and after carefully re-reading the post and thinking about what you said i understand what you were saying and in all actuality i said something similar in another post about hair being braid trained.

Although i dont believe it changes the hair not even temporarily i do think that it will give the appearance of something different and it could cause someone else to think differently about the hair in question.

Once again i apologize for coming off rude and dismissive i really do respect valid opinions.

Okay thanks. I sometimes have a hard time explaining my view points. Plus, it's even harder when we all have slightly different meanings for different words. And I'm also just a little frustrated about some things outside of this thread.

 

[Bun Mistress]

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It would be great to get back to this. I hate the direction these boards are heading towards. So much intolerance and disrespect.
Why is it tolerated on this forum?

I think its bleed over from other sites and blogs. There are so many blogs popping up against texlax/relaxers, that come under the pronatural subject. I think the people that are saying they don't care, its more of a I don't want to get in an arguement or natural versus relaxed.

I think that the relaxer backlash may be from natural backlash IRL. People are still telling my what I should do with my hair even now when I went from NL to beyond MBL in less than 3 years.

I still think that as BW, we are too involved in what everyone else if doing. Sorry ladies, kayneshrug.

 

[DDTexlaxed]

This place was to be different from sites like NP.com which has no talk about using heat, relaxers, or chemicals. This site has changed to being just as "intolerant." Can't we call a truce? Let's go back to caring about growing long hair,relaxed, natural, texlaxed, or whatever texture we are.

 

[Used2Bbald]

I texlaxed my hair but I have an afro. So its hard to say. At first sight someone may assume that I am natural. But of you want to get technical I left a texlaxer on my hair for five minutes three months ago.


But to each is own. The reason why I texlaxed my hair is because my hair was very course and hard for me to manage. I also enjoyed the idea of adding oil to my relaxer for conditioning purposes.

At the end of the day my goal is to achieve waist length hair through conditioning moisture and maintenance the easiest way possible. Using a texlaxer once a year with minimum heat wont hurt my hair. Hell, if I could figure out how to retain moisture with a relaxer I would have one. As long as it grows it dosent matter to me.

 

[reeko43]

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It would be great to get back to this. I hate the direction these boards are heading towards. So much intolerance and disrespect.
Why is it tolerated on this forum?

Unfortunately there are some who believe things should be THEIR way or no way These kind of people take the fun and adventure out of hair care. No natural haired, relaxed or in between person wants to be viewed to be less than or more ignorant than another just because of hair choices.

I am thankful for the women on this board that truly represent what LHCF should be about. I have learned a lot and so have many others. I hope that this continues to be a board that offers information on all forms of hair care and products. I am hoping the rest will eventually get over themselves.

 

[lesedi]

This place was to be different from sites like NP.com which has no talk about using heat, relaxers, or chemicals. This site has changed to being just as "intolerant." Can't we call a truce? Let's go back to caring about growing long hair,relaxed, natural, texlaxed, or whatever texture we are.

But is it really like that though? I don't think people on here are intolerant of people with perms. I see many posts about heat-training; stretching relaxers;BKT etc....and they all have positive commentry and lots of thanks.
I think there is a lot of paranoia

 

[yaya24]

I did not read this thread (don't plan on it either).

I'm in agreement w/ anyone who said anything along the lines of #notthatserious #mindyobusiness.

 

[dachsies_rule!]

@ a twist out not being natural. I guess I will have to roll out of bed with my fro flat on one side and only moisturize by standing in God's natural rain while using the wind as a comb in order to be truly natural.

OMG, my ish would be so matted trying to use the wind like that!

 

[manter26]

But is it really like that though? I don't think people on here are intolerant of people with perms. I see many posts about heat-training; stretching relaxers;BKT etc....and they all have positive commentry and lots of thanks.
I think there is a lot of paranoia

Exactly, I don't see the "Nazism." Now if a natural head were to come in here and say "I wish the 'relaxer fad' would wear off so we can all get along"...**** would hit the fan. I just don't get it. Paranoid and being more ignorant that those who they are condemning. smh.

 

[Myjourney2009]

Exactly, I don't see the "Nazism." Now if a natural head were to come in here and say "I wish the 'relaxer fad' would wear off so we can all get along"...**** would hit the fan. I just don't get it. Paranoid and being more ignorant that those who they are condemning. smh.

Not from me. I dont give a fluck what people do with their hair.

Except for "Jeri Curl". Those are ugly

 

[reeko43]

Exactly, I don't see the "Nazism." Now if a natural head were to come in here and say "I wish the 'relaxer fad' would wear off so we can all get along"...**** would hit the fan. I just don't get it. Paranoid and being more ignorant that those who they are condemning. smh.

There has definitely been "nazism". I remember an incident where one had to be checked by one of the moderators because of her "sell out to the White man" type statements. There have definitely been more, especially just condescending statements about the health of relaxed hair.

 

[MsLi@512]

I think its bleed over from other sites and blogs. There are so many blogs popping up against texlax/relaxers, that come under the pronatural subject. I think the people that are saying they don't care, its more of a I don't want to get in an arguement or natural versus relaxed.

I think that the relaxer backlash may be from natural backlash IRL. People are still telling my what I should do with my hair even now when I went from NL to beyond MBL in less than 3 years.

I still think that as BW, we are too involved in what everyone else if doing. Sorry ladies, kayneshrug.

hmmm. I never thought about it this way. It's just disheartening that it's not enough to be a BW commited to caring for her hair however she chooses to wear it, now you must be natural to be truly black and that's cool. And now even that's not enough. You can't have a heating appliance within 100 feet of you and if you color treat, your evil, if you relax your trying to be a WW and not loving yourself and now you can't style your hair in a twist or braid outs without being accused of trying to improve upon your texture!! very interesting. When the heck did all these variables and conditions come about to qualify who is truly natural, who's really self hating here.
But impressive NL to MBL in less than a year?? reggie please.

 

[MsLi@512]

There has definitely been "nazism". I remember an incident where one had to be checked by one of the moderators because of her "sell out to the White man" type statements. There have definitely been more, especially just condescending statements about the health of relaxed hair.

It's clear as day to me. *shrugs. and I'm far from being paranoid.

 

[lesedi]

^^^^
There will always be extremists- on both sides of the fence. But does that determine the tone of the board?
I personally haven't experienced a difference in my enjoyment of the site from when i was relaxed to now when i'm natural.

 

[HauteHippie]

@ a twist out not being natural. I guess I will have to roll out of bed with my fro flat on one side and only moisturize by standing in God's natural rain while using the wind as a comb in order to be truly natural.

Lol, yes! Or move next to a waterfall. We're all about extremes!

Before texlaxing I'd just say chemical-free or virgin to avoid the debate/confusion b/c it got to be too much, even pre-styling questions. "Natural as in your hair or natural as in no relaxer? No texturizer? No dye?" Me: Do I know you...?

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[HauteHippie]

There has definitely been "nazism". I remember an incident where one had to be checked by one of the moderators because of her "sell out to the White man" type statements. There have definitely been more, especially just condescending statements about the health of relaxed hair.

Yep, it gets old. Can't we just have drama-free hair? I wont hold my breath for a "yes".

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[Roux]

I swear some of you are such crybabies. If someone challenges your opinion (yes, a person can CHALLENGE your opinion boo) or disagrees with you you go on a long tangent about how it used to be in the good ole days when everyone had one uniform opinion. Want some kumbuya? Go create a board filled with clones of yourself so you can cosign you and yourself all day long. Geez.

Some of yall are way too damn sensitive for the internet.

 

[My Friend]

Not from me. I dont give a fluck what people do with their hair.

Except for "Jeri Curl". Those are ugly

Myjourney2009


Don't start none, won't be none

 

[Myjourney2009]

Myjourney2009


Don't start none, won't be none

Sorry but they are

 

[reeko43]

I swear some of you are such crybabies. If someone challenges your opinion (yes, a person can CHALLENGE your opinion boo) or disagrees with you you go on a long tangent about how it used to be in the good ole days when everyone had one uniform opinion. Want some kumbuya? Go create a board filled with clones of yourself so you can cosign you and yourself all day long. Geez.

Some of yall are way too damn sensitive for the internet.

Don't you find your post just a little sensitive? I mean no offense and for some reason it really tickled me!

 

[DDTexlaxed]

^^^^
There will always be extremists- on both sides of the fence. But does that determine the tone of the board?
I personally haven't experienced a difference in my enjoyment of the site from when i was relaxed to now when i'm natural.

I hope you continue to keep that point of view. I just want us to go back to the happy site we used to be. Honestly, the tone of the board has changed, but it doesn't mean it is completely ruined. We can agree to disagree and try to be respectful to each other. It doesn't have to be Sunday every day.

 

[cheryl26]

Do people really go around asking each other's hairtype in real life? I've never heard it before just online.

 

[OsnapCnapp!]

This is what happens when a regular 9 to 5 is not enough.

 

[MizzBrown]

This place was to be different from sites like NP.com which has no talk about using heat, relaxers, or chemicals. This site has changed to being just as "intolerant." Can't we call a truce? Let's go back to caring about growing long hair,relaxed, natural, texlaxed, or whatever texture we are.

I actually liked NP for that fact that they were "intolerant". I joined that site while relaxed and liked that it was pretty much cut and dry and if you didn't like it they'd help you see the X in the corner of your browser.

 

[nappystorm]

I swear some of you are such crybabies. If someone challenges your opinion (yes, a person can CHALLENGE your opinion boo) or disagrees with you you go on a long tangent about how it used to be in the good ole days when everyone had one uniform opinion. Want some kumbuya? Go create a board filled with clones of yourself so you can cosign you and yourself all day long. Geez.

Some of yall are way too damn sensitive for the internet.

Roux I like you, girl

 

[Myjourney2009]

Do people really go around asking each other's hairtype in real life? I've never heard it before just online.

They dont use the words "hair type" but they will stare you down and will ask (if you dont look like the traditional "exotical"), " how you get your hair like that".

When I was natural this happened sooooo often. I just answered this is what it is and kept it moving.

 

[Roux]

Don't you find your post just a little sensitive? I mean no offense and for some reason it really tickled me!

sensitive? not at all. annoyed? plenty.