Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural.....

[CurlsBazillion]

^^^yep sounds like wave nouveau/jheri curl

 

[Napp]

I miss you over at section 8

thats whats its called now?

 

[My Friend]

I understand that, I am not referring to everyone who wears braid/twist outs at all. I am referring to women who state that they do not like their afro hair and don't find afros attractive, and therefore wear other styles, but believe they have "overcome" issues with their hair because they stopped getting relaxers and act as if all women who get relaxers hate their hair. Just saying that throwing all the shade and sitting on a pedastal isn't necessary. Apologies if that was not clear in my previous post.

Regarding the OP...liars also make me but I don't really ask women how they got their hair to look how it does, so it's not something I come across often. Some people are SUPER strict in their definition of natural, nixing color, henna, baking soda, products, etc etc...it's too much. It's almost as if someone asks if you are natural you have to give a billion caveats so you don't look like you're faking. "Yes, I'm natural, but I put baking soda in my conditioner once every other month, colored my hair over a year ago, flat iron
it twice a year, have used henna approximately six times (but you gotta mention how many times you used amla too), do DCs with steam weekly, and some of my products have coconut milk." **Card revoked**

'Cuse me... what does baking soda, henna, coconut milk, and Alma suppose to do to your hair? I'm assuming from this thread they are suppose to be natural relaxers? Am I right?

 

[My Friend]

Can't be bovered to read through this thread. Can't wait for "natural" hair to go back out of fashion and we can have some peace on this site again

hothair


Was this site initially set up for relaxed hair?

 

[MsLi@512]

Where are these women... Show them to me Just kidding

One day i was rocking my hair out in all of it's poofy & kinky glory (frigging ca-yute if i do say so mahself ). Anyway, a freelancer at my company complimented me on my natural hair. (I'm no fool. I know she was just fishing to see if I would "admit" that I wasn't.) I told her I was texlaxed (gasp! It's not a secret)... And she had the nerve to say "You know that's a relaxer, right?"

B i s h please!

I think a lot of natural women like to assume many texlaxed women don't know they aren't natural... the reality is, 99.9% of us are well aware & are more than ok with it.


Yes... people can rock kinky hair AND be openly relaxed at the same time. Life ain't fair


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And the choych said....amen!

 

[Kinkyhairlady]

Yet, you keep responding. I can assure you, I'm not upset in the least. But out of all the posters calling you out, your focus remains on me, maybe its because I use the quote function ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yep, it's a simple thread and I simply called your walking contradiction butt out.



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I'm contradictory cause I have a Sim character that does not look like me as an avatar? Well I guess folks who have pics of celebs or of men represent who they are? You make no sense that is why I responded. I assume your avatar is not you right? No matter how much you may think it looks like you it's still not you so I guess if I'm putting on a front online then so are you cause you have someone else's pic as your avatar.

 

[carameldelight87]

I paid my 6.50 because i seriously do not care what anyone is doing to their hair.

I was on another natural only hair board and it made me sick the way they went about tearing apart women and their hair practices that just wasn't my cup of tea.

So i paid 6.50 not to care and not to be apart of a group that would judge people based on what they do with their own hair.


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......so how's that workin out for ya?

I'm sorry but I'm givin you major side eye. If you don't care about what other people do to their hair why are you apart of forums where all there is is OTHER WOMEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY DO TO THEIR HAIR!

My point is, we care because we learn from other women. Some of us have perfected our regimens and whatnot but some folks are actin like they're not phased by other women's hair and they clearly are!

 

[carameldelight87]

At that gif!!

Yeah, this thread did get extra, quick.

 

[carameldelight87]

Kinkyhairlady and Amazhaan

Y'all two need to stop! I'm all for back and forth debates but apparently this is extra personal so either y'all need to take this to a PM so y'all can duke it out later or just plum, drop it! We supposed to be grown 'round heyah!

 

[Amazhaan]

I'm contradictory cause I have a Sim character that does not look like me as an avatar? Well I guess folks who have pics of celebs or of men represent who they are? You make no sense that is why I responded. I assume your avatar is not you right? No matter how much you may think it looks like you it's still not you so I guess if I'm putting on a front online then so are you cause you have someone else's pic as your avatar.

You're a walking contradiction, because you created a Sims character that doesn't represent you in any way. But IRL you have issues with folks that are essentially doing the same- misrepresenting themselves. That's the point.

Folks didn't create these pics, they got them off the internet for whatever reason, no that's not me, but with a big curly wig, it could be That on the other hand could never be you. (Well it could be if you altered your natural self a lot) ...You created an image that you liked and are cool with it, right?

They changed their texture to something the liked and are cool with it too, but you don't like that. And felt the need to point them out.

I was only pointing THAT out... you know... pot, meet kettle... I honestly have no issue with you and aren't mad at all. I just thought it was quite funny that you'd go there. I'll exit the thread now, since I'm not contributing to the issue at hand.

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[Klearli]

Whoa. Out of control, ya'll.

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[DDTexlaxed]

You're a walking contradiction, because you created a Sims character that doesn't represent you in any way. But IRL you have issues with folks that are essentially doing the same- misrepresenting themselves. That's the point.

Folks didn't create these pics, they got them off the internet for whatever reason, no that's not me, but with a big curly wig, it could be That on the other hand could never be you. (Well it could be if you altered your natural self a lot) ...You created an image that you liked and are cool with it, right?

They changed their texture to something the liked and are cool with it too, but you don't like that. And felt the need to point them out.

I was only pointing THAT out... you know... pot, meet kettle... I honestly have no issue with you and aren't mad at all. I just thought it was quite funny that you'd go there. I'll exit the thread now, since I'm not contributing to the issue at hand.

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Really petty. Please...quit.

 

[Etherealsmile]

Some folks really need to take an internet break once in a while. Its really not that seriouserplexed

 

[dynamic1]

I have. The stylist set her hair on perm rods, then after drying under dryer, used fingers and a low-setting blow dryer to relax the curls. The result was still a bit poodley, but I saw her hair a few days later after the tightness of the curls had loosened even more and it looked like naturally curly hair.

I was under the impression the OP was referring to a wash and go style rather than a roller/rod set. Yet still, I have only seen type 4 roller/rod sets that still look like roller/rod sets on type 4 hair.

In other words,

• Gel on type 4 hair looks like type 4 hair with gel
• Twistouts/braidouts on type 4 look like twistouts/braidouts on type 4
• A text on type 4 - looks like a text on type 4
• and so on......(insert any hair type in the above)

Perhaps my belief is based on my hair board and real world experience. I either see an exaggeration in the post I referenced or maybe, just maybe the woman the OP referred to is actually a type 3.

 

[Poohbear]

I will respectfully have to disagree with your theory texture is defined as:

tex·ture
- noun 1. the physical structure or composition of a material, object, etc.

So the physical structure of the hair would need to be altered in order for the texture to change even temporarily the physical structure of hair is defined below

Since braiding and or twisting hair or just manipulating hair in various styles is not changing the physical structure of the hair then it is not changing the texture not even temporarily it just changing the look that's all

The physical structure of a human hair can be seen through a microscope. It consists of three layers of dead skin cells: the cuticle, a smooth, outer covering fashioned from cells that overlap like fish scales; the cortex, a thick, middle layer made of spindle—shaped cells filled with keratin and hair color; and the medulla, a relatively narrow central column containing cube—shaped cells and pockets of air.

danniegirl - I don't know if you just trying to clown me or what, but you're putting words in my mouth and changing what I said into something different now. How come you are not reading everything I post and not understanding what I am saying? erplexed erplexed erplexed

I said nothing about hair styles changing the physical hair structure permanently like chemicals. I said hair styles change/alter the appearance of your hair temporarily. Temporarily simply means "short period of time". Twistouts do change the appearance of your hair temporarily, whether it is a few days, 1 week, 2 weeks, or a month. But after you wash it, your hair goes back to it's original state. Hair styles stretch out your hair into a different texture or pattern. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. Change and alter mean the same thing to me.

I see where you even deleted the last part of my post where I said I believe twistouts, braidouts, and heat styled hair IS natural hair! It's like you want to be in disagreement for no reason. There's nothing to really disagree with.

 

[ashleymichelle1]

some of ya'll are doing entirely too much. smmfh

 

[reeko43]

...a freelancer at my company complimented me on my natural hair. (I'm no fool. I know she was just fishing to see if I would "admit" that I wasn't.) I told her I was texlaxed (gasp! It's not a secret)... And she had the nerve to say "You know that's a relaxer, right?"

B i s h please!

What! Wow, some people have some serious nerve! Why is she playing the natural detective? I guess she needed to make sure you knew your place

 

[MissErikaM]

Wow...there is the MOST going on up in here...*grabs popcorn*

 

[EllePixie]

'Cuse me... what does baking soda, henna, coconut milk, and Alma suppose to do to your hair? I'm assuming from this thread they are suppose to be natural relaxers? Am I right?

Misinformed people consider them curl relaxers, except amla, which is supposed to counteract any curl loosening from henna.

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[SmileyNY]

What! Wow, some people have some serious nerve! Why is she playing the natural detective? I guess she needed to make sure you knew your place

Yea.... And my "place" was with a head of big full beautiful kinky hair. I knew it well I also knew she was low-key hating ai! I'm a trip... but I'm not a ashamed of being proud if my hair. I worked hard for it


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[hair4romheaven]

Separation by hair texture.
We cant win. I cant wait until this natural fad passes. Lol

 

[tatiana]

Is it just possible that the person is telling the truth?

I find some people are misinform about hair textures.

OP, you will be better off if you just concerned yourself with you.

 

[BraunSugar]

Some folks really need to take an internet break once in a while. Its really not that seriouserplexed

But it is that serious! I mean, what are folks supposed to do IRL??? We can't ask them to stop it. We're just being silly!!! You understand...

 

[danniegirl]

......so how's that workin out for ya?

I'm sorry but I'm givin you major side eye. If you don't care about what other people do to their hair why are you apart of forums where all there is is OTHER WOMEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY DO TO THEIR HAIR!

My point is, we care because we learn from other women. Some of us have perfected our regimens and whatnot but some folks are actin like they're not phased by other women's hair and they clearly are!

It working out great for me and I suggest you give it a try. Not caring what others do with their hair makes me feel non-judgmental about other peoples personal choices. It is what it is your hair choices have no bearing on me at all.

when i say i dont care what i mean is it doesnt bother me that people perm their hair or the childs hair or the childs child hair im not bothered by weaves, wigs or braids and i really dont think anyone should do what i do and know damn well i dont know whats best for the minority or the majority

Now I'm still able to find great advice, learn different things and meet great people and personalities along the way . However their hair and their hair practices are their own and I would never ask anyone to change them to please my eye,my emotional state or my idea of what a HHJ can be.

So I hope you can understand that I although I care about healthy hair and the care and maintenance that goes along with it how someone gets there is their own personal journey and has nothing to do with me.

Eta. this was in response to a post about people paying 6.50 to care about what others do to their hair a bit ot but. It was not in response to the OP and her opinion or the thread.

 

[gcchick_07]

why would people want the "natural fad" to pass? wouldn't you like it that changing one's texture to turn into an available option and not mandatory for "coming of age" as it is seen in in most black communities? would you really rather 90% of black women to relax because they honestly don't know how to care for their, their daughters, or anyone else's natural hair?

this "i don't give a phuck bout nobody but me" thing that's starting to seep into the conversation when it comes to natural hair is a bit...disappointing. it's like people think if you say "i'd like to encourage anyone who asks (not forcing my opinion on others) to go natural to at least SEE what their hair is like" you will be a dreaded "natural nazi". people on both sides are really doing the most...

 

[hair4romheaven]

why would people want the "natural fad" to pass? wouldn't you like it that changing one's texture to turn into an available option and not mandatory for "coming of age" as it is seen in in most black communities? would you really rather 90% of black women to relax because they honestly don't know how to care for their, their daughters, or anyone else's natural hair?

this "i don't give a phuck bout nobody but me" thing that's starting to seep into the conversation when it comes to natural hair is a bit...disappointing.

@gcchick when "I" say I want it to pass I mean on the hair board. IRL people don't really care. It seems like the tone on the board has changed from beautiful hair relaxed and natural to natural hair typing wars. Hair typing is fun to me, I love seeing beautiful textures and admiring our hair but it has taken a different road on the hair boards and a lot of vets. left because of this I suppose. I see it now.

 

[tropical-punch]

Some people really don't know any better.

 

[gcchick_07]

@gcchick when "I" say I want it to pass I mean on the hair board. IRL people don't really care. It seems like the tone on the board has changed from beautiful hair relaxed and natural to natural hair typing wars. Hair typing is fun to me, I love seeing beautiful textures and admiring our hair but it has taken a different road on the hair boards and a lot of vets. left because of this I suppose. I see it now.

irl i think people have more of a problem with natural hair. why else would over half the women who post about their hair experiences mention someone giving them sideways comments? or the fact that the majority of black women are still relaxed (most since before they could remember anything else)?

the op, while i think this post could have not been made, said later in the thread that these are people that she's SEEN the natural hair of and suddenly they have a looser permanent pattern. and then they want to talk natural hair with her and it's clearly not. who cares if that bothers her. i'd be annoyed if someone wanted to have conversations with me all the time and i knew they were lying 24/7. if she wants to post about it, let her. i don't think she's saying that their texture was "too loose for them so therefore it HAS to be chemically altered". now if she said THAT i could see the attacking. but she didn't.

it's just so catty to come up in a thread for some of these people to berate her for caring about stuff THEY don't think she should, yet they are caring about her caring about something they don't think she should be? like what kind of time on your hands is that? i've ignored it for the past however many days this mess has been going on, but for crying out loud.

erplexed

 

[hothair]

Nope. It is for ANYONE of colour wishing to grow long hair. Threads tended to be more about growth and retention than how "natural" your hair is. New techniques, combos and products were reviewed constantly and people contributed and were respected for their opinions whether their hair was natural, relaxed, texlaxed, 2a, 3c, 4z etc. It would be nice to have that back and leave the Nazi intolerance and ignorance to other sites.

hothair


Was this site initially set up for relaxed hair?

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Separation by hair texture.
We cant win. I cant wait until this natural fad passes. Lol

It's not the fault of natural hair, this has to do with catty arsed, ignant tailed females being far too involved with other people's hair choices. Bottom line. Let the blame stay where it belongs.




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