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rockstar said:
I read this entire thread at work over a 2 day period. Pure entertainment. :lol:



I know I'm all late and wrong, but I did have a comment about her wet hair picture. In one of her videos, she stated she only washes her hair stretched and in twists or braids. This might have been twists or braids that were unraveled; therefore, her ends did not curl up and pattern appears looser.

There was another picture of her wash and go, and it does appear her hair looks more like the second picture than the first.

ETA: Hi @EllePixie! :wave: I got an A on my project. Thank you so much again!
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I have tried very, very hard to stay out of this conversation because hair typing arguments always end the same way - no-one ever budges from their position. However, I've been stalking Chime's Fotki and Facebook page for a long time now. I have never seen a picture of her hair that looks anything like picture #2. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

That's it.
 
Napp said:
This is how a typical heat training thead on lhcf goes

Original poster: lets talk bout heat training

anti heat train poster:its bad! its bad! its bad! Damage.(200 thanks)

pro heattraining poster: well for xyz reason its working for me. Its not as bad as youre making it seem.

Anti poster:youre in denial! you cant face the fact your hair is damaged! stop speading mis info!

Pro poster:well really its aint that bad.my hair is retaining length and looks healthy


moderate poster: well some people can do it.if it works for them great.its not for everyone.
*ignored*

anti poster: denial! Your hair will break off eventually! your hair is not really healthy!
youre delusional! You are ignorant! Stop sugar cotaing your lies! You are stupid to try and grow hair this way!just get a relaxer. I would never eva eva eva think of doing this because i am a sane beautiful balck woman who is in touch with the african blood that runs through my veins! Why do you feel you must hide the truth? You have some deep seated complex in which you must fry your curls straight because you feel like you should have been born indian!
(2000 thanks)

mods: aww crap *clank*
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cmw45 said:
She looks like a coarse 3c.

What it is, is gorgeous!
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Basically this.

I was so intrigued by her length I kind of e-stalked her and found all her vids and fotki (something I never do). After having looked at her hair in various stages, this is my conclusion. I've seen lots of 4a's of varying textures, but what they all have in common is the pencil-sized spirals. Her hair isn't like that. No curl type has a monopoly on texture - fine, medium, coarse. I guess my question is inverse of the whole "why if someone has long hair do people send them up on the typing ladder?" question. Why, if someone has coarse hair is it automatically 4-something? And FTR, Sera is a clear, waist-length 4b. Chime's hair isn't anything like hers. As for why typing is important, it's not really, but I think it helps to identify and categorize for people who are trying to find ways to address their particular hair concerns. Of course, it all ends up being trial and error. All in all, I'm inspired, even though I'm in the "hot mess" phase of my transition!
 
Cherokee-n-Black said:
No curl type has a monopoly on texture - fine, medium, coarse. I guess my question is inverse of the whole "why if someone has long hair do people send them up on the typing ladder?" question. Why, if someone has coarse hair is it automatically 4-something? And FTR, Sera is a clear, waist-length 4b. Chime's hair isn't anything like hers.
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:yep::yep::yep::yep::yep::yep: And God forbid it is coarse and kinky :perplexed
 
ms-gg said:
:yep::yep::yep::yep::yep::yep: And God forbid it is coarse and kinky :perplexed
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I agree with the sentiment that coarse does not equal type 4, but I still think she is a type 4 (with some 3c and 4b according to her) based on her dry, no product pic, just not a 4b. The wet pic is still laughable to me...being that if a LHCF'er posted a wet pic in their hair typing thread, people would ask for a dry one. lol
 
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EllePixie said:
Gorgeous. That's how much hair I want. Like the type of hair you look at and you're just like, "Gotd*mn, that's a lot of hair."
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Exactly! I saw a woman with similar hair type and color on a bike last year with her hair blowing in the wind. Actually, this woman was closer to a 4a/3c, but with the same length.
 
just to add to the chaos that is this thread:

my hair is primarily 4a except the front of my hair. for a while i thought it was 4b but it just waves up. i primarily pull my hair back off my face while it is wet and the only time i don't ear it pulled back like that is when it's in a twist out. otherwise, it's in a pulled back puff.

i've been trying to figure out how to fix my hair not curling up, but nothing has worked so far.
 
EllePixie said:
I agree with the sentiment that coarse does not equal type 4, but I still think she is a type 4 (with some 3c and 4b according to her) based on her dry, no product pic, just not a 4b. The wet pic is still laughable to me...being that if an LHCF'er posted a wet pic in their hair typing thread, people would ask for a dry one. lol
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Since i posted the wet pic i will just add the reasoning behind it. I was planning to compare it to a wet 4a picture that i easily could find in google images but i wasnt able to find one in a rush so i just posted a dry picture. The picture was to show the show the difference between the two. Ive never seen wet 4a to look like that and look like the following picture dry.just as an example to show why some would be skeptical about her hair type.i was thinking to post my own pictures to compare but i knew better...

Also when someone shows wet hair pictures in a hairtyping thread its usually wet with product which is what people have qualms about. I dont think ive seen a hairtyping thread that was questioned by showing wet product free hair along with dry pictures.
 
Hair Typing Part I: Andre Walker
stylist Andre Walker and Author of the book Andre Talks Hair, developed a hair-typing system that is frequently used to catergorize the various types of textures of curly hair. Andre's system breaks the differnt textures into 4 main categories and from there, into sub categories.

This system should only be used as a guide and, in my opinion, is more important for natural-heads to know and become familiar with hair types than relaxed-heads as far as CARE is concerned.

DISCLAIMER: ALL TYPES OF HAIR GROWS one hair type is not "superior" over another. The foundation of growing hair to its longest lengths has little to do with (if at all) the type of hair one has and MORE to do with a solid 3C's regimen.

Type 1
Type 1 is straight hair. (that's all there is to it!)

Type 2
A relatively unusual type, wavy hair tends to be coarse, with a definite S pattern to it. There are three Type 2 subtypes: A- Fine /thin, B -medium-textured, and C - thick and coarse. Type 2A is very easy to handle, blowing out into a straighter style or taking on curlier looks with relative ease. Types 2B and 2C are a little more resistant to styling and have a tendency to frizz.

Type 3
When this type of hair is wet, it appears to be pretty straight. As it dries, the hair goes back to its curly state. When curly hair is wet it usually straightens out. As it dries, it absorbs the water and contracts to its curliest state. Humidity tends to make this type of curly hair even curlier, or even frizzier. Type 3 hair has a lot of body and is easily styled in its natural state, or it can be easily straightened with a blow-dryer into a smoother style. Healthy Type 3 hair is shiny, with soft, smooth curls and strong elasticity. The curls are well-defined and springy.

Andre defines two subtypes of curly hair. First, there is type 3A hair which is very loosely curled and usually very shiny with big curls. The shorter the hair is, the straighter it gets. The longer the hair is the more defined the curl. Then, there is type 3B hair which has a medium amount of curl to tight corkscrews. It's not unusual to see a mixture of these types existing on the same head. Curly hair usually consists of a combination of textures, with the crown being the curliest part. Lastly there is a type 3C, is hair type that is not in Andre Walker’s book, but many people suggest that it should be. This type of hair can be described as tight curls in corkscrews. The curls can be either kinky, or very tightly curled, with lots and lots of strands densely packed together.

Type 4
According to Andre Walker, if your hair falls into the Type 4 category, then it is kinky, or very tightly curled. Generally, Type 4 hair is very wiry, very tightly coiled and very fragile. Similar to Type 3 hair, Type 4 hair appears to be coarse, but it is actually quite fine, with lots and lots of these strands densely packed together. Type 4 hair that is healthy won't shine, but it will have sheen. It will be soft to the touch and will pass the strand test with ease. It will feel silkier than it will look shiny.

Type 4 hairs looks tough and durable, but looks can be deceiving. If you have Type 4 hair, you already know that it is the most fragile hair around. There are two subtypes of Type 4 hair: Type 4A, tightly coiled hair that, when stretched, has an S pattern, much like curly hair; and Type 4B, which has a Z pattern, less of a defined curl pattern (instead of curling or coiling, the hair bends in sharp angles like the letter Z). Type 4A tends to have more moisture than Type 4B, which will have a wiry texture.
 
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Chime told me she recorded a video this weekend with her air-dried hair
she says she hopes/thinks it will answer a lot of questions everyone has
about her hair

she's so cool IMO...
 
Solitude said:
:lachen::lachen::lachen::lachen: I know, right??? It's like he invented the system, but doesn't care about it nearly as much as other people do.
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This ninja was like, let me make some bull-ish up real quick to make my book sound super official and we all fell for it. Now ole boy and Oprah sitting back laughing at us like:

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I love Chime's hair. I don't understand how we ended up turning it into a battle of the textures when it was supposed to be about heat training.:ohwell: I hope to have long natural hair like hers one day.
 
ms-gg said:
This ninja was like, let me make some bull-ish up real quick to make my book sound super official and we all fell for it. Now ole boy and Oprah sitting back laughing at us like:

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I think he's about one of the only black people Oprah has publicly put on, (besides Gail):perplexed
 
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