Am I the only one...

[divachyk]

...That can use glycerin in the winter? Its in the 40's here in Alabama. I did a test, half of my hair w/o glycerin and the other half w/ glycerin. The side w/ glycerin is touchably soft

Anybody else juicing for the winter?

I'm also in Alabama its in the 60s here. And S-curl is still doing its job.

I live in Northwest Florida, right outside of Mobile and glycerin is not cutting it for me during the winter. It dries my hair out something serious. I had to move to a creamier, heavier product (Bee Mine Balanced Cream Moisturizer). Come summer though, I'll be back on the grind with Scurl.

ETA: Based on the humidity % for my area, you'd think glycerin would work in the winter. For example, the humidity right now at 11pm is 93%. Tomorrow's humidity is expected to range from 70%-100% at varying times throughout the day but for some reason, the glycerin (Scurl) stopped working when the temps cooled off. Can anyone explain why that might be?

 

[thehairmaverick]

I live in Northwest Florida, right outside of Mobile and glycerin is not cutting it for me during the winter. It dries my hair out something serious. I had to move to a creamier, heavier product (Bee Mine Balanced Cream Moisturizer). Come summer though, I'll be back on the grind with Scurl.

ETA: Based on the humidity % for my area, you'd think glycerin would work in the winter. For example, the humidity right now at 11pm is 93%. Tomorrow's humidity is expected to range from 70%-100% at varying times throughout the day but for some reason, the glycerin (Scurl) stopped working when the temps cooled off. Can anyone explain why that might be?

I would like to know also!

 

[EbonyCPrincess]

I tried my homemade spritz and Wave Nouveau last winter and hated them, and simply thought all the juicers must have different hair than I. This year I read that glycerin in the winter may not work...and since then I have stayed away like the plague this winter and so far so good! So to answer your question, no I do not use glycerin based moisturizers in the winter!

 

[~~HoneyComb~~]

I live in Alabama and I use glycerin year round too.

Today I'm wearing a big juicy side puff and it's really soft---it's almost 70 degrees today..

 

[ms-gg]

I would like to know also!

Elle and some others have already noted that it is based off of the dew point and not the humidity:

Dewpoint is related to the quantity of moisture in the air while relative humidity is related to how close the air is to saturation. http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/454389#ixzz19j6uw3cP​

Source: http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/190/

 

[divachyk]

Elle and some others have already noted that it is based off of the dew point and not the humidity:

ource: EXPLAINING DEWPOINT AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY TO THE PUBLIC

I would like to know also!

My glycerin usage depends on the dew point outside (not humidity), and the formulation of the product in question. If the dew is below 30 and glycerin is in the first four ingredients, it's a no go - I've tried it, and I get dry, straw-like hair.

Otherwise, it's fine, but I also don't use glycerin in dew points over 65 or so, because then my hair will be overly moisturized and frizzy. Thankfully, in LA the dews have been in the 40s-50s, which are perfect for me to use glycerin. But when I visit the DMV, I leave my glycerin products at home. Interestingly enough, I never have issues with other humectants, just glycerin.

Thank you ms-gg, I totally missed EllePixie's post. However, I've never heard of the dew point being the determining factor for glycerine's effectiveness. All threads that I've read pointed to the humidity % that determined effectiveness but like the poster mentioned, I guess product ingredients are to be factored in also. I'm not well versed in humectants, glycerine, dew point or humidity to make a valid argument either way. Scurl just seems to not work as great for me right now. I've also tried others - CFCG, Wave Nouvea, Hawaiian Silky, etc with the same results.

The dew point right now is 62% in Northwest FL at 9pm so that is a great percentage, I think? So anyway, until I can figure this thing out, I'll keep with the creamier leave-in for the winter. I wish I could make Scurl work because it's cheaper than the Bee Mine I'm using, hence the reason I'm curious on how to figure this thing out.

 

[EllePixie]

I did a video on dew point - YouTube - Dew Points and Natural Hair. The thing is, dew point is absolute, while humidity is relative. Humidity is determined by a calculation using dew point and temperature.

 

[ms-gg]

It's all good Diva

I first learned about the dew point and glycerin from Pittsburgh Curly (I think she is a poster on NC too) Although her chart is based on when it is best and worst to get curls, it can be used to know when the air is really dry or not.

I, along with Boticelli Babe and Colorado Curly, being the hair science geeks that we are, talked about it enough that there is a simple, if theoretical, temperature chart.

* Dew point bleow 15 – very dry. Use as much moisture and emollients as you hair can handle without overconditioning. Many will have to expect a looser curl pattern at this point. For those who like to occasionally straighten their hair, this is a good time for it since you may have less curl to fight.
* Dew point 15-30 – Dry, add moisture and emollients. Limit or cut out humectants.
* Between 30-40 can be iffy. Some people can tolerate more humectants. Other cannot. Very trial and error in this range.
* Between 40-60. Prime curly range. You should get some curl without that summer frizz. Find a balance between moisture and humectants that works for you.
* Dew point 60 and up, you’ll need less moisture (usually) and more humectants to help keep the environmental moisture out of your hair, causing that summer frizz. Even those who like moisture will not need as much of the heavy stuff as they did in the winter. This is the time for your hard hold gels. Once the dew point gets past 70, it’s pretty miserable anyway, so you may just feel better putting you hair into an updo. Alas, curly updos will have to wait for another post.

source: dew point

 

[EMJazzy]

That was a very interesting video. How about the use of sodium lactate and dew points?

I did a video on dew point - YouTube - Dew Points and Natural Hair. The thing is, dew point is absolute, while humidity is relative. Humidity is determined by a calculation using dew point and temperature.

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[thehairmaverick]

Elle and some others have already noted that it is based off of the dew point and not the humidity:



Source: EXPLAINING DEWPOINT AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY TO THE PUBLIC

Oh no i was wondering why it wasn't working for her in with 93% humidity( and why it works for Mz.MoMo in a zero percent humidity in Arizona) Sorry I did specify lol...*off to check out the link*

 

[thehairmaverick]

I did a video on dew point - YouTube - Dew Points and Natural Hair. The thing is, dew point is absolute, while humidity is relative. Humidity is determined by a calculation using dew point and temperature.

ohhhhh....let me check this vid out...I feel like I'm in science class

 

[frizzy]

Thank you ms-gg, I totally missed EllePixie's post. However, I've never heard of the dew point being the determining factor for glycerine's effectiveness. All threads that I've read pointed to the humidity % that determined effectiveness but like the poster mentioned, I guess product ingredients are to be factored in also. I'm not well versed in humectants, glycerine, dew point or humidity to make a valid argument either way. Scurl just seems to not work as great for me right now. I've also tried others - CFCG, Wave Nouvea, Hawaiian Silky, etc with the same results.

The dew point right now is 62% in Northwest FL at 9pm so that is a great percentage, I think? So anyway, until I can figure this thing out, I'll keep with the creamier leave-in for the winter. I wish I could make Scurl work because it's cheaper than the Bee Mine I'm using, hence the reason I'm curious on how to figure this thing out.

I did a video on dew point - YouTube - Dew Points and Natural Hair. The thing is, dew point is absolute, while humidity is relative. Humidity is determined by a calculation using dew point and temperature.

Bumping!

GREAT information we should all know, thanks ladies!

 

[ilah]

Not sure how much my vote is worth...I live in So Cal so the "winters" here are....not at all like winters elsewhere. We've had some cold days since I've started juicing and my hair shrugs it off like it's nothing with the S-Curl.

So in love with the S-Curl.

 

[Stormy]

I use a glycerine and water spray mix year round and I have no problems! Even in these crazy below freezing temps in the South.