Flyaways and Frizzness al the time... HELP!!

[MsLizziA]

Alright so I do my eight year old sister's hair for school everyday BUT she is flyway and frizz city! I have down twistouts and braidsouts which both stay in place while we are at the house BUT when she comes home from school, it looks like she got into a fight on the play ground.every.single.day.

IT IS RIDICOULUS! I frickn set her hair for a twistout last night and she comes home and lo and behold ALL HER DEFINITION IS GONE AND IT IS FRIZZY! I DON'T GET!

I deep condition, I do protien treatments, leave in conditioners, I moisturize and seal it WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM!!??

I'm sorry y'all but I do everything to my hair and I do the same thing to hers and it never stays. I know she is a kid n I should give her a lil more room with her hair and I shouldn't expect it to stay completely intact BUT DAMN! Her edges never stay put. I gel them down, use pomades, AND the scarf method... y'all know it didn't stay??

I need help cuz I get tired of doing it everyday. I'm about to just stick with twists 24/7 or balls and barrets...

 

[ctosha]

I know the frustration of frizz all the time no matter what. Since you mentioned deep conditioning, gel and scarf method etc. have you tried to incorporate ceramides into her regime? Once I started doing this I have had less frizz and my hair would stay put in a nice sleek bun for most if not all of the day using my same products as usual. Currently I add hempseed oil to my deep conditioners and my leave in (Taliah waajid mist) contains ceramides too. I understand shes a child and her hair hair may not stay in tack through the day but maybe with this added method (if you decided to try) will not have her looking like she "got into a fight."

 

[ladytee2]

Hi Im Tee and frizz is my mild name. Thats right Tee Frizz thats me . Anyway I have seen a reduction in my frizz with dc, acv cold water rinse, and increased moisture. And I will say Kimmaytube's leave-in recipe helped as well. I also added ceramides to my regimen as well. With all of that I still get halo frizz. I have come to accept it as part of my life. You all so should consider her personality. If she is going to be running around the play ground like my youngest on skittles then twist outs everyday may not be the style for her.

 

[darlingdiva]

Hi Im Tee and frizz is my mild name. Thats right Tee Frizz thats me . Anyway I have seen a reduction in my frizz with dc, acv cold water rinse, and increased moisture. And I will say Kimmaytube's leave-in recipe helped as well. I also added ceramides to my regimen as well. With all of that I still get halo frizz. I have come to accept it as part of my life. You all so should consider her personality. If she is going to be running around the play ground like my youngest on skittles then twist outs everyday may not be the style for her.

I agree with the bolded. Maybe you could keep her hair in twists during school days & then let her wear a twistout over the weekend. It would also be less work for you. I only have to work to fight the frizz in the summer, but I have been loving Redken's Smooth Down Detangling Cream lately.

 

[MsLizziA]

Hi Im Tee and frizz is my mild name. Thats right Tee Frizz thats me . Anyway I have seen a reduction in my frizz with dc, acv cold water rinse, and increased moisture. And I will say Kimmaytube's leave-in recipe helped as well. I also added ceramides to my regimen as well. With all of that I still get halo frizz. I have come to accept it as part of my life. You all so should consider her personality. If she is going to be running around the play ground like my youngest on skittles then twist outs everyday may not be the style for her.

Well I don't do twistouts everyday. I usually have it in balls and ribbons but I wanted to let her wear her hair down yesterday ~rolls eyes~ so much for that.

I do have wheat germ oil that I never use and I hate the smell of that stuff. How much do you guys use, how often do you use it and how do you use it?



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[Allandra]

Alright so I do my eight year old sister's hair for school everyday BUT she is flyway and frizz city! I have down twistouts and braidsouts which both stay in place while we are at the house BUT when she comes home from school, it looks like she got into a fight on the play ground.every.single.day.

IT IS RIDICOULUS! I frickn set her hair for a twistout last night and she comes home and lo and behold ALL HER DEFINITION IS GONE AND IT IS FRIZZY! I DON'T GET!

I deep condition, I do protien treatments, leave in conditioners, I moisturize and seal it WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM!!??

I'm sorry y'all but I do everything to my hair and I do the same thing to hers and it never stays. I know she is a kid n I should give her a lil more room with her hair and I shouldn't expect it to stay completely intact BUT DAMN! Her edges never stay put. I gel them down, use pomades, AND the scarf method... y'all know it didn't stay??

I need help cuz I get tired of doing it everyday. I'm about to just stick with twists 24/7 or balls and barrets...

A twist out and a braid out are probably cute styles on an eight year old when they are not going to be active. When most children get home from school, their hair can be a mess (especially after recess and gym). Have you ever tried doing any braid or corn row styles on her hair for school? Braid or corn row styles will hold up much better.

 

[ElegantElephant]

I agree with the bolded. Maybe you could keep her hair in twists during school days & then let her wear a twistout over the weekend. It would also be less work for you. I only have to work to fight the frizz in the summer, but I have been loving Redken's Smooth Down Detangling Cream lately.

How are you using the detangling creme? after shampooing? on dry hair as moisturizer? I too SUFFER from summer frizziness and when it's humid outside.

 

[darlingdiva]

How are you using the detangling creme? after shampooing? on dry hair as moisturizer? I too SUFFER from summer frizziness and when it's humid outside.

I've been using the detangling cream after shampooing. Then I follow up with whatever cream or pomade that I'm going to use to twist my hair.

 

[MsLizziA]

If I only knew how to flat braid good..~sigh~

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[MsLizziA]

But outside of the styles when her hair is lose, her edges don't stay down. Her flyaways are absurd

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[PPGbubbles]

for flat styles try using a pomade or styling wax to tame the frizzes

 

[lovegymnasts]

Disclaimer: This is my opinion. This is only my opinion. No one has to take it. It is not meant to cause strife. This is just me.


Accept her hair for what it is. She is 8 years old...a baby, a child. She is an active 8 year old. She does not need to wear her hair out. Neither one of you should worry about her fuzzies. That is what her hair does.

I think your frustrations would dissolve if you would accept her hair for what it is and what it does instead of trying to make it do what it obviously does not want to do. Her hair does not need pomades, styling wax, and styling gels. Put it in a cute protective style and call it a day.

Moisturize and cover her hair at night, so it will look fresh in the morning...less stress for you...less stress for the baby.

 

[PPGbubbles]

^^^ True but we are dealing with this with a 10 year old in my home... she has MBL hair and is VERY active.... we keep her hair braided and in ponies w/ barrets.

After 2 days her hair is a fuzzy mess and she came home crying because the kids at school teased her...

I redid the same style with a little Elasta QP curling wax to tame the fuzzyness of the cornrows and she was all smiles and was not longer teased.

an 8 year old should be an 8 year old...we know they can be wild..... but no child hair should be left unkempt or appear like no one cares for them.

this is also just my opinion.... but I do agree that she should not be wearing "out styles" just flat, age appropriate styles

 

[lovegymnasts]

This is my issue: Why is our hair deemed unkempt or uncared for if it is not slicked down?

I think hair looks better and more "natural" verses artificially styled when it is not shellacked to death.

Children of other races run around and are not worried. They are just out there having fun. Why do we set an unrealistic standard and expectation on our own children?

Styles that would work:
Single braids/plaits, single twists, and cornrows (can be bunned, ponytailed, hang down, french braided, etc.) - the fuzziness can be minimized by rewetting/moisturizing and covering with a scarf. The perimeter can be redone as needed or simply put the twists/braids/plaits up if it is deemed too fuzzy again by bunning, french braiding, or ponytailing.

 

[Nonie]

This is my issue: Why is our hair deemed unkempt or uncared for if it is not slicked down?

I think hair looks better and more "natural" verses artificially styled when it is not shellacked to death.

Children of other races run around and are not worried. They are just out there having fun. Why do we set an unrealistic standard and expectation on our own children?

Styles that would work:
Single braids/plaits, single twists, and cornrows (can be bunned, ponytailed, hang down, french braided, etc.) - the fuzziness can be minimized by rewetting/moisturizing and covering with a scarf. The perimeter can be redone as needed or simply put the twists/braids/plaits up if it is deemed too fuzzy again by bunning, french braiding, or ponytailing.

lovegymnasts :notworthy

Had to quote the boldface text because you echoed my sentiments perfectly. I have NEVER understood the need for helmet head. In fact, before I saw your post, I was doing a Google search for flyaway pics that look so beautiful to me that I cannot believe people really fret over trivial stuff like this. I think we've been around too many "plastic-looking humans" that we are forgetting what it's like to be happy-go-lucky and just love being alive and free.

I was going to start my post by saying I must be the only person in the world that adores flyaways but your post lovegymnasts was such a joy to read and a reminder that I'm no island.

All these kids have flyaways and I wouldn't change anything about how they look:

On the other hand, these "perfect" haired kids look a bit erplexed...unnatural to me--stiff,
even scary and a bit sad

I am so glad I grew up at a time and era and environment when kids could be kids and no one pointed and laughed at flyaways or was even bothered by them to try to change their behavior. In fact, back then you'd find little Nonie among the crowd who thought flyaways were so becoming that she'd actually use a comb to pull out a little afro row along the hairline so she'd fake a halo like her natural type 3 or 3/4A fine-haired friends.

And even at this age, I think they are the shizzle. I have NEVER used gel to try to pretend that my hair doesn't have flyaways. I love them and the secrets they give away about how soft my hair is.

 

[lovegymnasts]

On the other hand, these "perfect" haired kids look a bit erplexed...unnatural to me--stiff,
even scary and a bit sad

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Oh my goodness, this child's parent needs a pop upside the head.

 

[MsLizziA]

I think y'all are misunderstanding me, if she has flyaways from playin but her hair doesn't stay in tact. Even with balls its still frizzy when she comes home and its in balls 90% of the time. I try to keep it like that all week. I hate havn to take it down everyday n redoing it. That's a pain in the a$$.

Even with braids her hair is only frizz free 2 days and that's scalp braids! I just want to minimize it

 

[Curlykale]

try to see if she has my "problem": her hair hates all humectants on this planet (pure aloe, jojoba, castor, avocado oil, honey, panthenol, glycerine, glycols...). if this is the case, leaving a "normal" conditioner that has no humectants and no protein on the length will do wonders (i.e. garnier fructis triple nutrition). I use quite a bit of conditioner: while I air dry there are still some white areas which disappear (tightlycurly.com method) and I always air dry. In the morning you just re-smooth with wet hands and a little more conditioner. I hope it works.

 

[PPGbubbles]

I think y'all are misunderstanding me, if she has flyaways from playin but her hair doesn't stay in tact. Even with balls its still frizzy when she comes home and its in balls 90% of the time. I try to keep it like that all week. I hate havn to take it down everyday n redoing it. That's a pain in the a$$.

Even with braids her hair is only frizz free 2 days and that's scalp braids! I just want to minimize it

I get you OP! I mentioned nothing of perfection and slicking hair down... just a better method to hold her hair...

like I said we have a 10yr old @ the house and I feel your pain.... longhairdontcare2011 uses the wax to keep her braids in for a month check her out on YT she has good braiding methods
YouTube - Longhairdontcare2011's Channel
her is a video on cornrow maintenance

and this blog
Beads, Braids, & Beyond

it is a blog dedicated to styling children's hair in ponies and braids. she uses various butters in her daughters hair

 

[PPGbubbles]

This is my issue: Why is our hair deemed unkempt or uncared for if it is not slicked down?

I think hair looks better and more "natural" verses artificially styled when it is not shellacked to death.

Children of other races run around and are not worried. They are just out there having fun. Why do we set an unrealistic standard and expectation on our own children?

Styles that would work:
Single braids/plaits, single twists, and cornrows (can be bunned, ponytailed, hang down, french braided, etc.) - the fuzziness can be minimized by rewetting/moisturizing and covering with a scarf. The perimeter can be redone as needed or simply put the twists/braids/plaits up if it is deemed too fuzzy again by bunning, french braiding, or ponytailing.

I totally agree with the natural look.... you will not find me gelling or slicking down my hair... BUT we are discussing children here and not adults.

I simply provided the anecdote that led to me finding a better way to smooth a 10yr olds hair...
yes she was teased....but by OTHER 10yr olds (kids are silly)...and that situation made her cry. Kids are touchy and children are mean.

I found a simple remedy.....make her braids look neater and as a result her styles last up to 3 weeks now....life is easier on her and me.OP is not looking to re-wet or redo the hair often and I offered a simple solution

I dunno how we drifted into yt child beauty pagent stars...

best of luck OP with her hair.... I remember the post you did awhile back with her flat twist and individual twist, that was cute

 

[Ms Lala]

I often have the same problem. Usually if I clarify and do a porosity treatment it helps. Also did you do the twist out on wet or dry hair? My twist out always lasts better if my hair is atleast damp.

 

[Nonie]

I dunno how we drifted into yt child beauty pagent stars...

We drifted to them because that's the only thing that came to mind when I thought of perfectly, non-flyaway hair. Unless hair is type 1 where it can look like this with ease as long as all the hairs make it to the pony tail, the only other look that comes to mind when I think of non-flyaway hair is those styles of the 80's where people would have some holding gel/spray/foam turn their hair into some kind of meringue pie that was so hard and frozen and stayed that way for days, only to be taken down when you visit the salon.

I guess I'm from a different era when kids didn't worry or tease each other about silly things. Also you said something about not gelling your hair or slicking it down because you're an adult but that it's different when we're talking about kids. Again, we differ on that note because I would be more accepting of kids having "unkempt" hair than adults, so if flyaways were a bad thing to me, then they would be the last thing I would expect on an adult but I'd be more lenient on a kid. I am very comfortable with them because I find them cute. But if I didn't find them cute, then I'd be damned if my grown *** would be walking around with them while making sure my kid didn't have them. Just sayin'.

Kids sure have it hard these days. I'll never forget reading about a 3 year old crying like her little heart will break because her natural type 3 hair didn't swing or look like her classmate's. When do they get to just let go and be kids in heart, soul and mind if they worry so much about appearance? Sad.

 

[PPGbubbles]

We drifted to them because that's the only thing that came to mind when I thought of perfectly, non-flyaway hair. Unless hair is type 1 where it can look like this with ease as long as all the hairs make it to the pony tail, the only other look that comes to mind when I think of non-flyaway hair is those styles of the 80's where people would have some holding gel/spray/foam turn their hair into some kind of meringue pie that was so hard and frozen and stayed that way for days, only to be taken down when you visit the salon.

I guess I'm from a different era when kids didn't worry or tease each other about silly things. Also you said something about not gelling your hair or slicking it down because you're an adult but that it's different when we're talking about kids. Again, we differ on that note because I would be more accepting of kids having "unkempt" hair than adults, so if flyaways were a bad thing to me, then they would be the last thing I would expect on an adult but I'd be more lenient on a kid. I am very comfortable with them because I find them cute. But if I didn't find them cute, then I'd be damned if my grown *** would be walking around with them while making sure my kid didn't have them. Just sayin'.

Kids sure have it hard these days. I'll never forget reading about a 3 year old crying like her little heart will break because her natural type 3 hair didn't swing or look like her classmate's. When do they get to just let go and be kids in heart, soul and mind if they worry so much about appearance? Sad.

lol @ the bold... but yes kids are silly and are usually disapprove of natural hair. and see it as "bad" I was teased in school for my kinks and as a result I kept my hair in braids. all through middle school and high school.

@ the second bolded, its not so much that I believe that flyaways are bad and I accept them as an adult. I simply accept that my hair line will neve be silky. I do not attempt to gel down my baby hurrs. I wasnt until my adult years that I learned to embrace my natural hair. And kids usually are not mature enough nor comfortable enough in their own skin to embrace that fact.

But it is a sad time to be a kid. I was reading another thread about "african" being the new name calling trend... Since when did being african become un-desirable??? Also I notice the 10yr old and her friends were obsessing about weight loss already it is a shame that these girls strive for the medias standard of perfection and don't accept themselves for who they are. They should be enjoying childhood and the folly of youth.

I like U @Nonie you can engage in a respectful exchange of ideas and you always have some sort of visual lol

and @lovegymnasts u are another poster I enjoy... question were you a gymnast before or just a fan of the sport. I ask because I was a gymnast for many years.

and to OP @MsLizziA....sorry for hijacking your thread! I will be good from now on I promise!!! hopefully you did find some good ideas for the lil one

 

[lovegymnasts]

and @lovegymnasts u are another poster I enjoy... question were you a gymnast before or just a fan of the sport. I ask because I was a gymnast for many years.

Thanks
I have never been a gymnast. I have just been a huge fan of the sport since the 80's.