nature vs nuture I believe both too!yeah i still don't know why it's referred to as "nature vs. nurture." why are they in competition?everything has both elements in it, sometimes it's more of one than the other that's all.
I didn't mean it like that. I'm just saying, if you're gonna go in, go in hard. Pull out all your sources and provide an even balance properly representing your position. Present people with facts not speculation.(sorry i just watched the great debaters this weekend, loluh oh... might get it for that one!
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External keratin wouldn't cause Keratosis pilaris. Your basal cells in the epidermis of your skin produce your keratin which forms a water resistent barrier on your skin, scalp and nails. Internal and subcutanous dermatitis can cause your basal cells to product more keratin in response to the irratitation, as an attempt for your body to help protect the skin. This is where the keratin buildup comes from, not products.
Your liver actually stores enough vitamin A to last nearly a year as long as you don't have major illness. If you have a healthy body fat percentage or a little extra chub, you also have a larger store of it too. Your liver absorbs vitamin a in the form of retinol palmate since that is the fat soluable form of vitamin A. Beta carotene, found in veggies is the water soluable form that your body can process, convert, and store as well if need be. Otherwise, you pee the extra out every couple of hours.
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Keratosis pilaris is most commonly seen in the skin on the arms, butt, legs(especially the thighs), and sometimes the face. It is rare that you see it on your scalp.
I didn't mean it like that. I'm just saying, if you're gonna go in, go in hard. Pull out all your sources and provide an even balance properly representing your position. Present people with facts not speculation.(sorry i just watched the great debaters this weekend, lol
I didn't mean it like that. I'm just saying, if you're gonna go in, go in hard. Pull out all your sources and provide an even balance properly representing your position. Present people with facts not speculation.(sorry i just watched the great debaters this weekend, lol
your imposing the environment of the same condition they have on your scalps , excess keratin. i cant say what it will do and the truth is neither can you......for sure!
Yeah, this thread is ridiculous. Clearly it is a genetic disorder that I don't think most of us have to worry about. Keratin is in so many hair products anyway, so I really don't get the big deal.
If by excellent you mean scientifically flawed. I agree.
If by excellent you mean scientifically flawed. I agree.
Irresistible;4878739[B said:]& trust me I really dont got that much time to be worried over what ya'll are putting in your heads.[/B] I didnt even care to find out what it was, and the information about came out in that thread! once I saw it was Keratin and how it was being used all I could think was oh shyt! This dont make sense nor does it sound safe!
But again ladies, I wish you the best! I hope it works for you without suffereing any of the risks! I actually really really do!
. I know for sure that not all keratins are created equal either. One is more strengthening than the other. Let me go look for that right now.
Oh so you mean pointing out the obvious that had already been stated by those who actually have used the products. Ohokay I got you.
Oh so you mean pointing out the obvious that had already been stated by those who actually have used the products. Ohokay I got you.
You are speculating that Keratosis can be caused from externally applying keratin to your scalp. If it has not been proven, it is speculation. That's all I am saying. Anyway, I am not for or against any side, I am merely appointing myself a debate judge, lol. JK
You could have fooled me on this one. If it's not much of a concern to you then perhaps you should give it a rest now, huh? We love you honey and we are very pleased that you have shown some concern for us
I just think that you are being a lot contradictary when you say here that you don't have time to be worrying about us yet your control is very lacking because you can't seem to let it go. Thanks a million for the concern though
ETA: Okay here it is:-
All proteins are strengthening proteins to some degree but here are more specific characteristics of these proteins:
Collagen Proteins -- known for increasing elasticity in the hair.
Silk Proteins -- known for softening the hair.
Wheat Proteins -- a moisturizing and strengthening protein. Known for increasing the hair's ability to maintain & receive moisture.
Keratin Protein -- responsible for keeping the hair strong and pliable. This is the strongest of the (hair product) proteins and is actually the one hair is made from. This one re-structures hair that has been damaged or broken down by chemicals. It helps to replace the amino acid cysteine which is the main one lost during chemical processing. This is the heavy duty protein. If you see the following as an ingredient:
*a) Keratin protein -- the will re-structure and strengthen the hair cuticle (the outer layer only & the most important layer)
*b) Hydrolyzed Keratin Protein of Keratin Amino Acids -- this means that the Keratin molecules have been broken down and are small enough to go beyond the cuticle and penetrate the hair shaft. It will strengthen all 3 layers of the hair. That is why the term "deep conditioning" technically only refers to this kind of treatment using penetrating proteins.
*c) Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin -- This is an exact match for the keratin your hair has (or has lost due to chemical processing). This is the highest quality and most potent keratin that can be used in hair products.
*Vegetable protein -- Vegetable protein absorbs more easily into the hair shaft (than animal protein) and does not create build-up, leaves the hair very shiny, radiant, luxuriant, and healthy.
*Animal protein -- Animal protein breaks down into fatty acids, which coats the hair and create residual build-up.
Silk Amino Acids/Protein -- Natural Silk is the strongest, natural fiber known to mankind. Discovered in Japan and has been used for centuries in all kinds of products that require durability. Silk has a tiny molecule that can penetrate the entire hair shaft deeper than all other proteins without adding any weight leaving the hair feeling clean and non-greasy.
The Keratin in some reconstructors should not leave your hair hard like the Aphogee Treatment for damaged hair (which contains hydrolyzed animal protein). This treatment hardens on your hair for a reason and is used with mild heat. A moisturizing conditioner is a must with this in order to soften like KeraCare Humecto.
Reconstructors that contain keratin and other proteins are supposed to have enough moisture to soften the hair therefore leaving your hair with a nice protein/moisture balance.
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I didn't know that my post would cause such an uproar, Iris. Why I gotta be a trip? I don't go around calling people names (well, maybe McCombOver
but some facts still remain the same and if you sit in that water your gonna turn into a prune, so that water still has an effect I am simply stating that too much keratin can still have an effect and it might be real similar to the genetic condition
You could have fooled me on this one. If it's not much of a concern to you then perhaps you should give it a rest now, huh? We love you honey and we are very pleased that you have shown some concern for us
I just think that you are being a lot contradictary when you say here that you don't have time to be worrying about us yet your control is very lacking because you can't seem to let it go. Thanks a million for the concern though
ETA: Okay here it is:-
All proteins are strengthening proteins to some degree but here are more specific characteristics of these proteins:
Collagen Proteins -- known for increasing elasticity in the hair.
Silk Proteins -- known for softening the hair.
Wheat Proteins -- a moisturizing and strengthening protein. Known for increasing the hair's ability to maintain & receive moisture.
Keratin Protein -- responsible for keeping the hair strong and pliable. This is the strongest of the (hair product) proteins and is actually the one hair is made from. This one re-structures hair that has been damaged or broken down by chemicals. It helps to replace the amino acid cysteine which is the main one lost during chemical processing. This is the heavy duty protein. If you see the following as an ingredient:
*a) Keratin protein -- the will re-structure and strengthen the hair cuticle (the outer layer only & the most important layer)
*b) Hydrolyzed Keratin Protein of Keratin Amino Acids -- this means that the Keratin molecules have been broken down and are small enough to go beyond the cuticle and penetrate the hair shaft. It will strengthen all 3 layers of the hair. That is why the term "deep conditioning" technically only refers to this kind of treatment using penetrating proteins.
*c) Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin -- This is an exact match for the keratin your hair has (or has lost due to chemical processing). This is the highest quality and most potent keratin that can be used in hair products.
*Vegetable protein -- Vegetable protein absorbs more easily into the hair shaft (than animal protein) and does not create build-up, leaves the hair very shiny, radiant, luxuriant, and healthy.
*Animal protein -- Animal protein breaks down into fatty acids, which coats the hair and create residual build-up.
Silk Amino Acids/Protein -- Natural Silk is the strongest, natural fiber known to mankind. Discovered in Japan and has been used for centuries in all kinds of products that require durability. Silk has a tiny molecule that can penetrate the entire hair shaft deeper than all other proteins without adding any weight leaving the hair feeling clean and non-greasy.
The Keratin in some reconstructors should not leave your hair hard like the Aphogee Treatment for damaged hair (which contains hydrolyzed animal protein). This treatment hardens on your hair for a reason and is used with mild heat. A moisturizing conditioner is a must with this in order to soften like KeraCare Humecto.
Reconstructors that contain keratin and other proteins are supposed to have enough moisture to soften the hair therefore leaving your hair with a nice protein/moisture balance.
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Thanks for the great post!
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