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Listen,

I'm the one who brought up nature and nurture and considering the audience (which seems to have a knack for only reading what it wants to read) I should have elaborated. Yes, in medical and academic circles, it is not a question of nature OR nurture, but rather how they interact together.

BUT

The fact of the matter is, if a condition is already not there GENETICALLY, there is nothing for nurture to play off of to produce those effects. You have to already have the underlying condition in order for the environment to exacerbate it - you cannot make something out of nothing.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
 
Iris...I do understand your concern about these products. I used OCT 4 times and got rid of it ...quick...and I also purchased it w/my eyes wide hyptonized...:lachen:


My concern is from a much more serious standpoint than kertin overload or it's penetration into the scalp/brain/tissues...etc. and I won't even approach
the 'paraben' sisters.:rolleyes:


Here's a small example:

Ovation:Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, PEG-40 Castor Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol,
Tocopheryl Acetate, DM DM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Frangrance

Stearalkonium Chloride :
One or more animal studies show brain and nervous system effects at moderate doses.

DMDM HYDANTOIN

One or more animal studies show skin irritation at moderate doses
National Library of Medicine HazMap

DMDM HYDANTOIN •Skin Sensitizer - An agent that can induce an allergic reaction in the skin or lungs: Yes;

Known human immune system toxicant National Library of Medicine HazMap Human skin toxicant - strong evidence


TETRASODIUM EDTA
Chelating Agent

Enhanced skin absorption
type of concern
Penetration enhancer Cosmetic Ingredient Review Assessments


About PEG-40:

PEG-40 is the polymer of ethylene oxide that conforms generally to the formula: where n has an average value of 40

Developmental/reproductive toxicity
type of concern

One or more animal studies show reproductive effects at very low doses

RTECS®- Reproductive Toxicology 2006


Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive)
type of concern

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Research Progress in Organic-Biological and Medicinal Chemistry 1970

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology 1970

Cancer
type of concern

One or more in vitro tests on mammalian cells show positive mutation results RTECS®- Mutagenesis 2002


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php

People can discount this information and declare that only minute portions are included in each formula..but all it takes is drip...drip...drip...

Take Care, Everyone...:yep:
 
That is simply not true! as there are SECONDARY causes for many things

as I am living with the proof!

nodisrespect said:
Listen,

I'm the one who brought up nature and nurture and considering the audience (which seems to have a knack for only reading what it wants to read) I should have elaborated. Yes, in medical and academic circles, it is not a question of nature OR nurture, but rather how they interact together.

BUT

The fact of the matter is, if a condition is already not there GENETICALLY, there is nothing for nurture to play off of to produce those effects. You have to already have the underlying condition in order for the environment to exacerbate it - you cannot make something out of nothing.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
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Irresistible said:
but some facts still remain the same and if you sit in that water your gonna turn into a prune, so that water still has an effect I am simply stating that too much keratin can still have an effect and it might be real similar to the genetic condition

and it aint that far fetched, because its imposed, on the scalp! just like you aint meant to drink that much water you aint meant to sit in no water for long periods of time and daily topical use of keratin , since its not meant , will have its effect as well

in every case......too much of something does what it does
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If the skin is also made up of keratin and we put products on our skin that contains keratin, isnt the scalp an extension of our skin? And doesn't that mean that keratin would be helpful to the scalp and hair:look:? Hmmm....anyone?
 
I'm thankful for those that do understand, where I am coming from is simple! Concern!

so hell yeah the disrespect pissed me off! when there is MUCH cause for concern or to at least keep it in mind! :yep:

I did not deserve the control tactics and insults!
eshille said:
Iris...I do understand your concern about these products. I used OCT 4 times and got rid of it ...quick...and I also purchased it w/my eyes wide hyptonized...:lachen:


My concern is from a much more serious standpoint than kertin overload or it's penetration into the scalp/brain/tissues...etc. and I won't even approach
the 'paraben' sisters.:rolleyes:


Here's a small example:

Ovation:Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, PEG-40 Castor Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol,
Tocopheryl Acetate, DM DM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Frangrance

Stearalkonium Chloride :
One or more animal studies show brain and nervous system effects at moderate doses.

DMDM HYDANTOIN

One or more animal studies show skin irritation at moderate doses
National Library of Medicine HazMap

DMDM HYDANTOIN •Skin Sensitizer - An agent that can induce an allergic reaction in the skin or lungs: Yes;

Known human immune system toxicant National Library of Medicine HazMap Human skin toxicant - strong evidence


TETRASODIUM EDTA
Chelating Agent

Enhanced skin absorption
type of concern
Penetration enhancer Cosmetic Ingredient Review Assessments


About PEG-40:

PEG-40 is the polymer of ethylene oxide that conforms generally to the formula: where n has an average value of 40

Developmental/reproductive toxicity
type of concern

One or more animal studies show reproductive effects at very low doses

RTECS®- Reproductive Toxicology 2006


Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive)
type of concern

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Research Progress in Organic-Biological and Medicinal Chemistry 1970

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology 1970

Cancer
type of concern

One or more in vitro tests on mammalian cells show positive mutation results RTECS®- Mutagenesis 2002


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php

People can discount this information and declare that only minute portions are included in each formula..but all it takes is drip...drip...drip...

Take Care, Everyone...:yep:
Click to expand...
 
eshille said:
Iris...I do understand your concern about these products. I used OCT 4 times and got rid of it ...quick...and I also purchased it w/my eyes wide hyptonized...:lachen:


My concern is from a much more serious standpoint than kertin overload or it's penetration into the scalp/brain/tissues...etc. and I won't even approach
the 'paraben' sisters.:rolleyes:


Here's a small example:

Ovation:Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, PEG-40 Castor Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol,
Tocopheryl Acetate, DM DM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Frangrance

Stearalkonium Chloride :
One or more animal studies show brain and nervous system effects at moderate doses.

DMDM HYDANTOIN

One or more animal studies show skin irritation at moderate doses
National Library of Medicine HazMap

DMDM HYDANTOIN •Skin Sensitizer - An agent that can induce an allergic reaction in the skin or lungs: Yes;

Known human immune system toxicant National Library of Medicine HazMap Human skin toxicant - strong evidence


TETRASODIUM EDTA
Chelating Agent

Enhanced skin absorption
type of concern
Penetration enhancer Cosmetic Ingredient Review Assessments


About PEG-40:

PEG-40 is the polymer of ethylene oxide that conforms generally to the formula: where n has an average value of 40

Developmental/reproductive toxicity
type of concern

One or more animal studies show reproductive effects at very low doses

RTECS®- Reproductive Toxicology 2006


Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive)
type of concern

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Research Progress in Organic-Biological and Medicinal Chemistry 1970

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology 1970

Cancer
type of concern

One or more in vitro tests on mammalian cells show positive mutation results RTECS®- Mutagenesis 2002


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php

People can discount this information and declare that only minute portions are included in each formula..but all it takes is drip...drip...drip...

Take Care, Everyone...:yep:
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Quick question-- Were these studies all done in the case of these chemicals being applied to the outer layer of the skin?
 
Aggie said:
If the skin is also made up of keratin and we put products on our skin that contains keratin, isnt the scalp an extension of our skin? And doesn't that mean that keratin would be helpful to the scalp and hair:look:? Hmmm....anyone?
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well put grease on your scalp then, but everyone is against clogging the follicles now, because just as gymfreak said its not the same Keratin, it aint human, and its insoluble , and as the links I posted said, it clogs the follicles, so with it not being a human keratin, thus being even more prone to clog since its not naturally produced by your own body and its synthetic, and just sitting on your scalp , going god knows where and doing god knows what then its another story, besides, Keratin has already been proven to make your hair hard, pretty much the same as ajax is guaranteed to dry out your skin

some things are just across the board no matter how you slice it

I take a synthetic drug that stopped production of a hormone my body should make,but because the drug was present my body reacted to that imposed condition and cause a 'secondary' form of a condition that could naturally occur on its own

so constant keratin could make your body react the same as it would under the other condition , possibly. either way too much protein can make your hair hard! thats enough risk in itself I WOULD THINK
 
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eshille said:
Iris...I do understand your concern about these products. I used OCT 4 times and got rid of it ...quick...and I also purchased it w/my eyes wide hyptonized...:lachen:


My concern is from a much more serious standpoint than kertin overload or it's penetration into the scalp/brain/tissues...etc. and I won't even approach
the 'paraben' sisters.:rolleyes:


Here's a small example:

Ovation:Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, PEG-40 Castor Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol,
Tocopheryl Acetate, DM DM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Frangrance

Stearalkonium Chloride :
One or more animal studies show brain and nervous system effects at moderate doses.

DMDM HYDANTOIN

One or more animal studies show skin irritation at moderate doses
National Library of Medicine HazMap

DMDM HYDANTOIN •Skin Sensitizer - An agent that can induce an allergic reaction in the skin or lungs: Yes;

Known human immune system toxicant National Library of Medicine HazMap Human skin toxicant - strong evidence


TETRASODIUM EDTA
Chelating Agent

Enhanced skin absorption
type of concern
Penetration enhancer Cosmetic Ingredient Review Assessments


About PEG-40:

PEG-40 is the polymer of ethylene oxide that conforms generally to the formula: where n has an average value of 40

Developmental/reproductive toxicity
type of concern

One or more animal studies show reproductive effects at very low doses

RTECS®- Reproductive Toxicology 2006


Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive)
type of concern

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Research Progress in Organic-Biological and Medicinal Chemistry 1970

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology 1970

Cancer
type of concern

One or more in vitro tests on mammalian cells show positive mutation results RTECS®- Mutagenesis 2002


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php

People can discount this information and declare that only minute portions are included in each formula..but all it takes is drip...drip...drip...

Take Care, Everyone...:yep:
Click to expand...

WOW!!! This means that I only need to wash my hair only with filtered water and throw away my entire products stash:lachen::rolleyes:, because these ingredients are in just about all my hair products except my ayurveda stuff I think.
 
eshille said:
Iris...I do understand your concern about these products. I used OCT 4 times and got rid of it ...quick...and I also purchased it w/my eyes wide hyptonized...:lachen:


My concern is from a much more serious standpoint than kertin overload or it's penetration into the scalp/brain/tissues...etc. and I won't even approach
the 'paraben' sisters.:rolleyes:


Here's a small example:

Ovation:Deionized Water, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, PEG-40 Castor Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Panthenol,
Tocopheryl Acetate, DM DM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Propylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Frangrance

Stearalkonium Chloride :
One or more animal studies show brain and nervous system effects at moderate doses.

DMDM HYDANTOIN

One or more animal studies show skin irritation at moderate doses
National Library of Medicine HazMap

DMDM HYDANTOIN •Skin Sensitizer - An agent that can induce an allergic reaction in the skin or lungs: Yes;

Known human immune system toxicant National Library of Medicine HazMap Human skin toxicant - strong evidence


TETRASODIUM EDTA
Chelating Agent

Enhanced skin absorption
type of concern
Penetration enhancer Cosmetic Ingredient Review Assessments


About PEG-40:

PEG-40 is the polymer of ethylene oxide that conforms generally to the formula: where n has an average value of 40

Developmental/reproductive toxicity
type of concern

One or more animal studies show reproductive effects at very low doses

RTECS®- Reproductive Toxicology 2006


Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive)
type of concern

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Research Progress in Organic-Biological and Medicinal Chemistry 1970

One or more animal studies show broad systemic effects at very low doses
RTECS®- Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology 1970

Cancer
type of concern

One or more in vitro tests on mammalian cells show positive mutation results RTECS®- Mutagenesis 2002


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php

People can discount this information and declare that only minute portions are included in each formula..but all it takes is drip...drip...drip...

Take Care, Everyone...:yep:
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What i have underlined has me concerned i think i will be using bee mine now.:ohwell:
 
That is simply not true! as there are SECONDARY causes for many things

as I am living with the proof!
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Oh girl please!!! I can't be all diplomatic, I'ma have to tell you straight up YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

There are no secondary causes for genetic conditions, do you know a genetic condition means you are BORN that way?

Environmental factors AGGRAVATE genetic problems. This particular condition you are talking about cannot be aggravated or created by a hair product because IT DOES NOT EVEN AFFECT OR APPEAR ON THE HEAD.

Girl, please stop. Accept that you are wrong and move on!!!
 
Aggie said:
WOW!!! This means that I only need to wash my hair only with filtered water and throw away my entire products stash:lachen::rolleyes:, because these ingredients are in just about all my hair products except my ayurveda stuff I think.
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My CB smoothe shampoo has tetrasodium EDTA and DMDM Hydantoin in it. And the cool silk has dmdm hydnatoin in it. These must be common ingredients in products.
 
Ok, I've decided to go sit in a cardboard box and not use ANYTHING anymore. I won't even eat.

I would have said a plastic bubble but plastics are bad for you.

-A
 
Irresistible said:
Might be setting yourselves up for Keratosis!

Think about it you will say oh Petroleum and Mineral Oil can clog the follicles! But you dont think 'insoluble Keratin' Cant? Where is all the Keratin going? huh?

Keratosis pilaris occurs as excess keratin, a natural protein in the skin, accumulates within the hair follicles forming hard plugs (process known as hyperkeratinization). Bearing only cosmetic consequence, the condition most often appears as a proliferation of tiny hard bumps that are seldom sore or itchy. Though people with keratosis pilaris experience this condition year round, it’s during the colder months when moisture levels in the air are lower that the problem can become exacerbated and the “goose bumps” are apt to look and feel more pronounced in color and texture.

Many KP bumps contain an ingrown hair that has coiled. This is a result of the keratinized skin "capping off" the hair follicle, preventing the hair from exiting. Instead, the hair grows inside the follicle, often encapsulated, and can be removed, much like an ingrown hair, though removal can lead to scarring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris

oh and you better be sure you have plenty of Vitamin A since your overloading your scalps and follicles with Keratin!

Your body reacts to a deficiency in vitamin A with brittle nails that grow slowly, and don't glow pink underneath. You also can be afflicted with night blindness, cloudy vision, ulcers of the cornea, and in extreme cases, blindness. Vitamin A helps to keep your tissues soft, because it encourages mucus secretion of the cells. When there isn't enough A, the tissues harden (keratinization). Your digestive and respiratory tracts can harden, making it very hard for those systems to work correctly. Your skin can also be keratinizaed. The hair folicles get plugged with keratin (insoluble protein, also the main constituent of hair and nails) and resembles goose flesh. The first to be afflicted is the forearms and thighs. On the other hand, if you get too much A, you will experience fatigue, restlessness, nausea, vommitting, headaches, skin rash, dry scaly lips, hair loss, brittle nails, weight loss, and liver ad spleen enlargement. Carotene from plants isn't toxic, because your body only changes what it needs to vitamin A. You may get alarmingly yellow-orange skin though. To get a toxicity, you'd have to take 100,000 RE every day for six months. Probably the only way you would do this is through supplements, so be careful with those supplements. You don't need them anyway if you eat a ballanced diet of wholesome foods.

http://waltonfeed.com/self/health/vit-min/a.html

how's that for doing your research and being a captain save a head! :grin: But you know I'm the bad guy I just dont want people using MT/OCT because they are my enemy AND I MUST OWN APHOGEE or something. come on, not even long ago many of you would have been against anyone saying to use Keratin like this! :nono: But now you see some growth and look at ya'll! willing to risk it all! and anyone saying anything about being careful or you know hey , keratin really aint no joke this really isnt making sense to do this, is the bad guy! Well I am through, igg this and please be my guest Keratin it up ladies!!!! You know as long as you grow some hair quckily! Thats all that really matters right?

well after this, far be it for me to try to stop anyone from f'in up their heads of hair! your right. Its your thing do what you want to do! I'm retiring from my 'captain save a head' position!

It didnt pay good enough N E WAY :nono:
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17 pages in 1 day, huh?
DO THAT HOMEWORK GIRL!!!:lachen::lachen::lachen:
 
Irresistible said:
well put grease on your scalp then, because just as gymfreak said its not the same Keratin, it aint human, and its insoluble thus since its not naturally produced by your own body and just sitting on your scalp , going god knows where and doing god knows what then its another story, besides, Keratin has already been proven to make your hair hard, pretty much the same as ajax is guaranteed to dry out your skin

some things are just across the board no matter how you slice it
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I have been and still do put grease on my scalp and I'm still alive and well, my mom and grandma did as well, my aunts did and we're all fine. Besides, if it's insoluble, it can't go anywhere, now can it? It just coats the hair right, kinda like henna right? I take evening primrose oil and my body doesn't produce that so what's your point?

Yes protein makes the hair strong and hard if misused or if your hair is very keratin protein sensitive, I agree, however, just as there are solutions to most problems, moistureizing deep conditioning is needed after a protein treatment to give us that perfect moisture/protein balance as our hair needs both to thrive.
 
Arcadian said:
Ok, I've decided to go sit in a cardboard box and not use ANYTHING anymore. I won't even eat.

I would have said a plastic bubble but plastics are bad for you.

-A
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I figure ya gotta pick and choose your poison...we're all gonna leave here sooner of later anyway...:lachen:
 
Arcadian said:
Ok, I've decided to go sit in a cardboard box and not use ANYTHING anymore. I won't even eat.

I would have said a plastic bubble but plastics are bad for you.

-A
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After that post about the bad hair ingredients, yeah we should go do this:lachen::lachen::lachen:. You know they say that tomatoes are a cancer fighting food yet it gives women osteosporosis - can't win for losing. You know what, Ima just live my life because at the end of the day, we're all gonna go one way or another.
 
Aggie said:
If the skin is also made up of keratin and we put products on our skin that contains keratin, isnt the scalp an extension of our skin? And doesn't that mean that keratin would be helpful to the scalp and hair:look:? Hmmm....anyone?
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Let me answer this better! All the rejection of someone being able to speak their mind got me irritable! but ok! to answer anything in moderation! so yes it can be good hence we have all these hair treatments/reconstructors but I have never ever never ever known Keratin to be recommended at this level of use as whats going on now!

Even the drug I take can be taken for a short time and not induce the body to stop producing it itself! Dang! what if all this keratin use, actually stops natural keratin production because its so constantly present! damn that would be messed up!

anyway, again to answer your post with calmness now woooosahhh! Keratin to my knowledge has never been suggested for daily hair/scalp use

so this is new and worrisome! yep
 
Aggie said:
WOW!!! This means that I only need to wash my hair only with filtered water and throw away my entire products stash:lachen::rolleyes:, because these ingredients are in just about all my hair products except my ayurveda stuff I think.
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From my window, it's a just matter of being an informed consumer...nothing more.

I get to understand and pick the poison I want to ingest...polluted water, foods full of pesticides, tainted unpasteurized milk, bird flu infected
chickens....and the list goes on.

I avoid as many chems as I can...and it's ain't easy.

Take Care
 
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gymfreak336 said:
You are comparing apples and oranges here.........

Your skin is a selectivly permable membrane. It can't and won't absorb everything. Keratin protein is not a small molecule, especially keratin that has been hydrolyzed to be used in cosmetics.

Its like this........ You can drink 100 gallons of water and it will kill you or you can sit in a pool with 100 gallons of water and it won't. Either way I could say you have too much water but in reality, the situations are TOTALLY different.
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i refuse to read this whole thread...but i like this analogy.
 
ok I dont but I AM LIVING WITH A SECONDARY CONDITION RIGHT NOW? IMPOSED BY ENVIRONMENT

otay!

it doesnt even matter tho anymore, really!

NO GENETIC MEANS YOUR GENETICALLY PRE-DISPOSED ,NOT BORN THAT WAY PER SAY! alot of us have certain genetic pre-dispositions that dont manifest at all. But can under certain conditions. anyway I AM saying the effects of too much keratin are written already, so who's to say that with ya'll walking around with too much keratin on ya'lls scalp that your skin wont do the same thing as that condition?

nodisrespect said:
Oh girl please!!! I can't be all diplomatic, I'ma have to tell you straight up YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

There are no secondary causes for genetic conditions, do you know a genetic condition means you are BORN that way?

Environmental factors AGGRAVATE genetic problems. This particular condition you are talking about cannot be aggravated or created by a hair product because IT DOES NOT EVEN AFFECT OR APPEAR ON THE HEAD.

Girl, please stop. Accept that you are wrong and move on!!!
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Aggie said:
After that post about the bad hair ingredients, yeah we should go do this:lachen::lachen::lachen:. You know they say that tomatoes are a cancer fighting food yet it gives women osteosporosis - can't win for losing. You know what, Ima just live my life because at the end of the day, we're all gonna go one way or another.
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Lord two more steps in this direction and we'll be having an existential crisis next :lachen::lachen::lachen:
 
I am not proven wrong nor more than I am proven right, its a theory of a possibilty and trust me I dont want to be right at ya'll expense

but no more than I Have been proven wrong, have you been proven right you cannot prove what long term daily keratin use will do either

nodisrespect said:
Oh girl please!!! I can't be all diplomatic, I'ma have to tell you straight up YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

There are no secondary causes for genetic conditions, do you know a genetic condition means you are BORN that way?

Environmental factors AGGRAVATE genetic problems. This particular condition you are talking about cannot be aggravated or created by a hair product because IT DOES NOT EVEN AFFECT OR APPEAR ON THE HEAD.

Girl, please stop. Accept that you are wrong and move on!!!
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hey everybody

I agree too much protein is not good.
I also agree that whether it's too much or not is going to depend on each situation/head...it sucks when I think something might work for me the way it worked for such & such and so & so, and it turns out to be a complete flop in my case, but that's what this journey is all about. you try new things sometimes, you learn from your experience and that's how you know what your hair does and doesn't like. I researched WGHO before I bought it, I tried it for months and didnt notice much of a difference in growth. I didnt see too many complaints when I researched WGHO either, I would've considered the complaints but in the end Im a positive and hopeful person so I still would've bought it and tried it for myself (especially when the success stories and praises totally outnumber the complaints so far).

I used to use a leave-in conditioner and it had protein and was for strengthening...my hair grew fine. It felt stronger but I still used ultra/intense moisturizing dc so my hair always felt soft. I think a lot of products have keratin. My hair fell in love with a daily moisture leave-in though. I was product shopping in the store the other day and saw "keratin" on almost everything lol. [also noticed wheat protein in almost everything] Protein/keratin does seem to be essential just as moisture is. I think too much of either moisture or protein is harmful and you have to balance them out within your regimen. I think many effective or quality products/whole lines are designed using the latest technology based on formulas having been researched, tested, perfected to a certain point for daily or weekly use. I dont think these products would work so well otherwise. I also believe that not everything works for everybody. Some people heads may love or tolerate more protein while others heads cant handle that...
wanted to add my thoughts...Im sleepy so sorry if some things are repetitive or cloudy...

G'Night :yawn:
will check into this thread tomorrow for more info.
 
Just a thought.........if keratin protein is most commonly found in hair care products, how come the most common places that keratosis pilaris are on the skin of the arms and butt. With all the google searching that has been going on, no one has found many pics of it on the scalp just?
 
nodisrespect said:
Lord two more steps in this direction and we'll be having an existential crisis next :lachen::lachen::lachen:
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well it dont matter some of us will do certain things for our own reasons and that has to be respected as much as people who are asking for it that are using this stuff! you dont want to be scoffed at and neither should we!

There have many thread about ladies having health problems and cancers and hormonal issues with certain products and they decided to toss them, its their right!
 
Irresistible said:
well put grease on your scalp then, but everyone is against clogging the follicles now, because just as gymfreak said its not the same Keratin, it aint human, and its insoluble , and as the links I posted said, it clogs the follicles, so with it not being a human keratin, thus being even more prone to clog since its not naturally produced by your own body and its synthetic, and just sitting on your scalp , going god knows where and doing god knows what then its another story, besides, Keratin has already been proven to make your hair hard, pretty much the same as ajax is guaranteed to dry out your skin

some things are just across the board no matter how you slice it

I take a synthetic drug that stopped production of a hormone my body should make,but because the drug was present my body reacted to that imposed condition and cause a 'secondary' form of a condition that could naturally occur on its own

so constant keratin could make your body react the same as it would under the other condition , possibly. either way too much protein can make your hair hard! thats enough risk in itself I WOULD THINK
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I never said it wasn't human. When I say all keratin isn't the same, I am refering to the chemical complexity.
 
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