Freespirit02
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This is what I would have told him. You are my twin.
lol..He actually apologized for hurting my feelings. He complimented my hair the other day..and today. I guess I have to take the good with the bad..
This is what I would have told him. You are my twin.
I think, more accurately, men like SIGNIFICANT hair.
Even more accurate: "ABUNDANT" HAIR.
It's a biological marker that a woman is in good health.
Straight, blonde, red, etc. are CULTURALLY DRIVEN preferences.
ABUNDANT HAIR either Afro and HUGE or long and straight is a biological marker that signals she is healthy and can bear children.
The problem, is when society says that only ONE TYPE OF "SIGNIFICANT/ABUNDANT HAIR" is acceptable.
Which forces people (men, for the most part in that society) to ignore what their BIOLOGY tells them is acceptable -IE, massive Afros.
DNA says: A lot of thick, healthy hair irregardless of the texture, whether it grows out or down or color equals sexy. ABUNDANT HAIR EQUALS SEXY.
Sexy, in the most basic sense = can bear children successfully.
Our society says: ONLY BLONDE, THICK, STRAIGHT HAIR IS SEXY!
You see the same thing with breasts in our society:
Biology's take:
Large breasts (out of proportion to her body, I'm not talking about naturally well-endowed ladies, who have a body that matches their proportions "up top") usually signal a female is NURSING and will have no want "to mate". A handful of well-shaped "bosom", signals a woman has a healthy amount of fat...but is not pregnant or nursing. This means she may be receptive to "mating".
Society's take:
The media trains men to think "sexy" (massive, pointy breasts) is something that biologically is NOT. Large breasts on a disturbingly skinny woman should signal she MUST be nursing (when they are out of proportion to her body. Again, I'm not talking about women who are naturally well endowed, my dears).
This can be seen in the body type preferred by high fashion:
Particularly in models who are abnormally thin, EVEN FOR A NATURALLY TALL WOMAN (I'm not speaking of women who are naturally petite, which I am -I'm average height however, or naturally tall and slim women).
The fashion world is attaching the adjectives "beautiful", "sexy", "feminine" to a body type that our DNA says:
DON'T MATE WITH THAT! She couldn't bring a child to term if she tried!
While many a super model has had very healthy, lovely children, biologically, men are hard wired prefer a bit of "meat".
To put it bluntly:
There's a reason ultra-skinny porn-stars are in short supply.
I think the "Men and Long Hair" issue is a case of nature vs. nurture.
Nature says: Abundant, significant hair (NO MATTER WHAT THE TEXTURE OR COLOR) = health. Health = sexy.
Nurture/society says: Long, straight, blonde, thick hair = sexy. Everything else = Not Sexy. Health? Who cares! This is about appealing to the dominant culture. Health is what we say it is!!
I think, more accurately, men like SIGNIFICANT hair.
Even more accurate: "ABUNDANT" HAIR.
It's a biological marker that a woman is in good health.
I think its nice thats he's encouraging you to grow it out and has faith that it can cause some men would be like, Weave up immediately pls... theres no hope for you, you have bad genes or some crazy mess like that, lol
Good answer! My follow-up question is why aren't women attracted to the same thing in men. Or are they? I like hair on a man, but that is not the norm here. Do you think it's because, when it comes to mammalian reproduction, it's more important for the female to be healthy? Or . . . I don't know, just grabbing at straws here.
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Going by your definition of what society says is sexy AND what "nature" says is sexy, I would never get a man. but that's not the case and never was.
I wish a ***** would...
Tis all
Good answer! My follow-up question is why aren't women attracted to the same thing in men. Or are they? I like hair on a man, but that is not the norm here. Do you think it's because, when it comes to mammalian reproduction, it's more important for the female to be healthy? Or . . . I don't know, just grabbing at straws here.
ok dear i hear ya. u guys and no offense don't know what her past has been on this issue. She already said it makes her feel insecure which leads me to believe that hair growth has been an issue for you with other people. whether it were ppl who made u feel inferior or guys who didn't want to talk to you.
I totally understand. My hair is the longest its ever been in its life. Its shoulder length but in my head its not. some of u have never had to experience someone calling you buckwheat (yup got that from a guy once) or people making fun of u because ur hair wasnt long (as a child). I was told recently by a guy that 1 of his requirements for a woman was that she has long hair. WTF?!
What does that have to do with her ability to be a good girlfriend? Loyalty and faithful?? Are u Fin kidding me? Now this same guy, has grown to like my puff and ahem says that he likes to ahem...pull on it...ok now im blushin
i think that the bottom line is that a big majority of men still have that complex that if a girl has long hair she is somehow better than the girls with short hair. i do think that of course we can open their eyes and their perceptions begin to change and accept all types of hair but at the end of the day anything that puts u closer to the desired beauty "Fill in the blank" is what they want.
Keep ur head up girl, obviously ur guy loves u just the way u r. Maybe u should try to explain why u reacted the way u did. Obviously he's not with u because of the style of ur hair. And happy growing because thats why we're all here!
OTi guess the same reason we do; its so pretty and girly and feminine. and its different from them. a lot of men where their hair shaved, besides men with locs or white boys with that shaggy thing goin on these days, so maybe they want a woman with hair that doesnt come close to theirs? i dunno. its too early for this lol.
loveurself84, looks like you have alot of good advice from the ladies. I say join a challenge on the board and you'll eventually figure out what is working/not working for you. My hair is long, thick, past BSL and if you saw me now you'd think I always had long hair like this.... not even close! I had shoulder length hair for like 26 years and it was due to overlapping relaxers, going to salons, not having the knowledge to take care of my hair. You can have long hair too. Heck if you didn't think you could you wouldn't have joined.
Oh and as far as long hair and men, I definitely get more attention when my hair is down (straight or curly) than I do when its in a protective bun. My DH denies it but he prefers to see it long and straight. But just try not to flip out on your boyfriend though. You don't want to end up losing a good guy over something as simple as hair.
ok dear i hear ya. u guys and no offense don't know what her past has been on this issue. She already said it makes her feel insecure which leads me to believe that hair growth has been an issue for you with other people. whether it were ppl who made u feel inferior or guys who didn't want to talk to you.
I totally understand. My hair is the longest its ever been in its life. Its shoulder length but in my head its not. some of u have never had to experience someone calling you buckwheat (yup got that from a guy once) or people making fun of u because ur hair wasnt long (as a child). I was told recently by a guy that 1 of his requirements for a woman was that she has long hair. WTF?!
What does that have to do with her ability to be a good girlfriend? Loyalty and faithful?? Are u Fin kidding me? Now this same guy, has grown to like my puff and ahem says that he likes to ahem...pull on it...ok now im blushin
i think that the bottom line is that a big majority of men still have that complex that if a girl has long hair she is somehow better than the girls with short hair. i do think that of course we can open their eyes and their perceptions begin to change and accept all types of hair but at the end of the day anything that puts u closer to the desired beauty "Fill in the blank" is what they want.
Keep ur head up girl, obviously ur guy loves u just the way u r. Maybe u should try to explain why u reacted the way u did. Obviously he's not with u because of the style of ur hair. And happy growing because thats why we're all here!
It sounds to me that the problem is not really about him/ or men liking long hair. I think the issue is that you are just frustrated at the growth process of your hair and the amount of time it took for your hair to get to or stay at the length that it is at! Which is not that big of a deal. It made you angry at that the fact that he issued a statement that you already knew, and the fact that he wants you to prolly grow it even longer, irratate the crap out of youerplexed. Which is understandable!!!! But don't give up... there is hope. First you just need a CONSISTENT........ regime. Then, you can see what your hair likes or dislikes. baby steps.
P.S. You know that if your hair was APL or WBL no one would be able to tell you anything,you would be thinking that you were the ish......swinging your hair from side to side all the time.