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summerof1990

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I'm confused I always thought when you needed a relaxer its just the chemicals breaking down and getting old but I see some ladies saying it means your hair is growing how is that? I dont need any scientific explanation :lol: but feel free to say so if you know
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but...when you are getting a touch-up you are only applying it to the new growth...which means your hair grew. Chemical bonds break down the hair permanently to make it straight. They dont break down causing you to need a touch-up because the hair is less relaxed...no ma'am...
 
Once your hair is relaxed, it's relaxed. If your perm was done right, none of the chemicals actually remain in your hair. Perm is a tool, not a leave-in aid (ouch)... So "chemical breakdown" isn't an issue after the the perm is completely rinsed/washed out.

When you decided that you need a touch up it's because you have enough new growth to do so. You're only supposed to relax the new growth, so the previously permed hair shouldn't be the focus (except for basing to prevent overlap).


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No one 'needs' a relaxer, but I digress :look: Once you place a relaxer on your hair, you permanently alter the texture of your hair so no, relaxers don't wear off or break down after time. Once your roots are a different texture than the relaxed hair, that means you have 'new growth' or new natural hair that has not been altered by chemicals.
 
Girl my cousin asked me this same question a few weeks ago. I gave her the side eye. I just did not understand how this 40 something yo AA woman who has been relaxing her hair for years did not know how the process works.

She still did not believe me either. I was bugging out because I did not understand how she was confused.

Simply put

The New hair is being relaxed (hair grows a half inch a month, so if you relax the new growth 2 months later you are only relaxing an inch from the scalp down).
 
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I must slightly disagree. I have heard this and I have experienced it since my hair is kinda resistant. If you watch Buildable Beauty's video you will see she switched relaxers because she said her hair would only look straight for a few weeks then it's like she didn't even relax it and she could/would not do correctives each time. And no it's not under processed because this has happened to me before. It was bone straight then a few weeks later not so bone straight. I don't see it as a problem because really it's not. It doesn't look texlaxed it doesn't look like newgrowth it's just not as straight as it was.

But to answer your question when it's time for a touch up it is because newgrowth has come in. Not to relax previously relaxed hair.
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I can see how this can be confusing. Depending on your lifestyle, heavy exerciser/dancer whose scalp is wet on a regular basis, your hair can look like it's reverting even if it was relaxed bone straight.
 
Most ppl who relax their hair bone straight followup with some sort of heat styling. The heat helps the hair appear to be processed straighter than it actually was. If they were to simply let their hair air dry (no blow drying, wraps, roller sets, or flat irons), they would see the true results of the relaxer.

IMO, a little texture showing up after a few weeks only means the after effects of the heat processing wore off... Not that the relaxer is "reverting." I think it's a good thing. It means you haven't completely broken down the bonds of your hair. That, in the long run, is healthier for your strands.


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You need a relaxer because you have new growth ie new hair out of your scalp that has not previously been treated by a relaxer so looks and acts like virgin hair out of your scalp HTH
 
I'm confused I always thought when you needed a relaxer its just the chemicals breaking down and getting old but I see some ladies saying it means your hair is growing how is that? I dont need any scientific explanation :lol: but feel free to say so if you know

Now I'm confused. Are you asking how we know that hair grows?
 
Judging by your question it seems that you think hair does not continue to grow even after chemical straightening. The short answer is yes, it does.

You are only supposed to relax your virgin hair that grows out of your head, so whenever you need a touch up, it means that the hair has grown out enough (usually an inch or so) for you to require the new growth to be relaxed.

Since hair grows about a 1/2 inch a month, that's why most women go for a touch up every 6 to 8 weeks or so.

The easiest way to see an example of this is to look at women who dye their hair a really different shade from their natural color (say, from black to blonde). They have to go get their color touched up because of very visible black roots growing out of their heads, not because the blonde color reverted to black. It's the same way with relaxers.

Hope that example helped illustrate the process for you. :yep:
 
Judging by your question it seems that you think hair does not continue to grow even after chemical straightening. The short answer is yes, it does.

You are only supposed to relax your virgin hair that grows out of your head, so whenever you need a touch up, it means that the hair has grown out enough (usually an inch or so) for you to require the new growth to be relaxed.

Since hair grows about a 1/2 inch a month, that's why most women go for a touch up every 6 to 8 weeks or so.

The easiest way to see an example of this is to look at women who dye their hair a really different shade from their natural color (say, from black to blonde). They have to go get their color touched up because of very visible black roots growing out of their heads, not because the blonde color reverted to black. It's the same way with relaxers.

Hope that example helped illustrate the process for you. :yep:

That was a good answer!!
 
So if this is true why do women use the term "sweat your perm out" or "sweat out my weave" i think it has some of it has something to do with your hair reverting back due to sweat and stuff
is this false?
 
Judging by your question it seems that you think hair does not continue to grow even after chemical straightening. The short answer is yes, it does.

You are only supposed to relax your virgin hair that grows out of your head, so whenever you need a touch up, it means that the hair has grown out enough (usually an inch or so) for you to require the new growth to be relaxed.

Since hair grows about a 1/2 inch a month, that's why most women go for a touch up every 6 to 8 weeks or so.

The easiest way to see an example of this is to look at women who dye their hair a really different shade from their natural color (say, from black to blonde). They have to go get their color touched up because of very visible black roots growing out of their heads, not because the blonde color reverted to black. It's the same way with relaxers.

Hope that example helped illustrate the process for you. :yep:

Thats a good answer.Thank you.
But i've seen women who wear weaves and they are afraid to let water touch it because it will ruin it and revert their hair back to natural. Same with PRESSING COMBS and natural hair if you let water touch your hair it will revert back to natural.

I was wondering since this happens to weave and natural hair i was wondering is it happening to relaxed hair sort of like a wear and tear in all situations??
 
The term 'sweat my perm out' is generally made by people who don't know any better.

Relaxing is an irreversible chemical process. It is impossible to sweat it out and become natural again. If that were the case, I know a lot of transitioning ladies who would appreciate it.


As one poster mentioned, a lot of ladies who relax follow it up with heat straightening which makes the hair appear straighter post relaxer. However, if these same ladies were to let their hair air dry, they would see that their hair retains some of it's texture. So for those claiming that they 'sweat their perm out', that is what they are seeing. The relaxer did not magically go away. The structure of their hair is still altered.

As for naturals, heat straightening is not permanent like a relaxer. Therefore, for many ladies contact with humidity or water will result in their going back to it's curly state.

You cannot compare a process which permanently results in straighter hair with that of a process that temporarily results in straighter hair. It's like comparing apples and oranges. :yep:
 
The term 'sweat my perm out' is generally made by people who don't know any better.

Relaxing is an irreversible chemical process. It is impossible to sweat it out and become natural again. If that were the case, I know a lot of transitioning ladies who would appreciate it.


As one poster mentioned, a lot of ladies who relax follow it up with heat straightening which makes the hair appear straighter post relaxer. However, if these same ladies were to let their hair air dry, they would see that their hair retains some of it's texture. So for those claiming that they 'sweat their perm out', that is what they are seeing. The relaxer did not magically go away. The structure of their hair is still altered.

As for naturals, heat straightening is not permanent like a relaxer. Therefore, for many ladies contact with humidity or water will result in their going back to it's curly state.

You cannot compare a process which permanently results in straighter hair with that of a process that temporarily results in straighter hair. It's like comparing apples and oranges. :yep:

@shasha8685 - Before I knew any better I would use the phrase "sweat out my perm." :look:

When I first joined LHCF, I was roller setting weekly and was feeling like my TUs were going well. I quickly learned the art of air drying. That's when issues started. I started feeling like my hair was under processed. While I feel some of it was under processed hair, I also feel that majority of it was my unawareness to the amount of texture left behind when receiving a TU since I had been 100% heat user in the past. It wasn't until this year did I have a light bulb moment (about the bolded ^^^) after I started back roller setting. I quickly realized what I considered under processed was more than likely texture left behind during TU. Now that I'm back roller setting, my hair feels relaxed appropriately as opposed to under processed and overly wavy when air drying. So now that I know the difference, I'm no longer singing the under processed hair blues.
 
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It's definitely growing. Some people may be mistaken because their hair isn't getting any longer or even shorter as time passes. That's not because the hair isn't growing, it's just breaking off just as fast so they don't notice hair growth.
 
I don't always use heat after my perms and I still know what she means. :shrugs: Some people Just have resistant hair.

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Issues of reverting ("sweating out the perm") and the appearance that it has reverted are usually the result of: 1) the hair was underprocessed in the first place, or 2) the hair has become dry or damaged, thus making it look "poofy".
 
Your hair definitely is growing and never EVER adopt the idea that your hair STOPS growing. Now having said that, there are some SERIOUS resistent areas for many people and I am one of them. My sides and the nape of my neck are all highly anti relaxer. What I mean by this is when I would get relaxers, these areas seemed to revert back to 'natural' after a few weeks. It drove me up the wall BUT is also encouraged overprocessing which is why those areas don't grow as well for many ladies. If it looks nappy, it needs relaxing, right?................NOT. Stylists make this very mistake over and over. How do you know they do? Because many will target those areas first when they are relaxing...............BIG MISTAKE!!!
 
OP are you serious? Are you that uninformed about your own hair?! Sorry, but this was a major *side-eye* moment. I ain't buyin it. Now let me go back to lurk mode before I get tomatoes thrown at me...
 
OP are you serious? Are you that uninformed about your own hair?! Sorry, but this was a major *side-eye* moment. I ain't buyin it. Now let me go back to lurk mode before I get tomatoes thrown at me...

smh i try to come in and learn about my hair and then i get slapped around from people who were probably just like me not knowing about your hair from birth...sorry.

I just wanted to be sure about the relaxer thing i've heard this before like you have but i wanted someone to bring in a even more conviencing answer to just keep me believing and motivated in my journey.
 
Your hair definitely is growing and never EVER adopt the idea that your hair STOPS growing. Now having said that, there are some SERIOUS resistent areas for many people and I am one of them. My sides and the nape of my neck are all highly anti relaxer. What I mean by this is when I would get relaxers, these areas seemed to revert back to 'natural' after a few weeks. It drove me up the wall BUT is also encouraged overprocessing which is why those areas don't grow as well for many ladies. If it looks nappy, it needs relaxing, right?................NOT. Stylists make this very mistake over and over. How do you know they do? Because many will target those areas first when they are relaxing...............BIG MISTAKE!!!

Thank you so much brighteyes. i was looking for something motivating and u gave me that:yep:
 
This is something I've wondered about as well.

I flat-iron weekly, and after a touch-up, the texture of the length of my hair is so much smoother than it is a few weeks after a touch-up.

And I'm not talking about my new-growth.

I have no problems at all identifying my new-growth.

I'm talking about the previously-relaxed portion of my hair.

I have just always wondered why my hair - all the way to the ends - is so straight after a touch-up that I can walk outside when it's sprinkling without worrying about reversion, but after my third week or so post, I hate to even be caught outside on a slightly humid day. :perplexed

ETA: I don't have any noticeable new-growth 3-weeks post either. I only notice it around week 5.
 
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Okay for a min there I thought you was joking around with all these post girl & actually questioned myself on why on earth am I reading these...but I can see how you are curious about hair. I dk everything either & come to ask my LHCF ladies. Good luck with finding what you are looking for!
 
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