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When is it better to trim before or after a perm?

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i always get a trim after, but i dont know if its necessarily the best. i always get a trim before i color my hair though. good question spider. anyone else have an answer?
 
IMO it shouldn't matter. But I usually get a trim after a perm, since the stylist I go to knows nothing about precision cuts.
 
I think if it's an even cut one seeks, then after a relaxer..
If it's just to trim split ends it won't matter....
 
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