AFashionSlave said:If you come across the tape tell me what it says.
I thought it was Grace Jones.
I'll keep the heads up for ma' tape for ya', but I am almost definite it said Shanaid O'Conor.
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AFashionSlave said:If you come across the tape tell me what it says.
I thought it was Grace Jones.
Kitkat said:I feel really sorry that she lost her hair. However, something doesn't make sense to me.
Okay, she says that her hair loss was caused by sodium hydroxide, which is found in lye relaxers, and because the box didn't contain neutralizing shampoo. But as we know, lye relaxers don't come in "kits." Only no-lye relaxers are packaged this way. You have to buy everything separately for lye relaxers - the relaxer, activating liquid, conditioner, neutralizer, etc.
Perhaps the reporter made a mistake, but something's not right. In any event, if she'd been relaxing since she was 12, I'd imagine she should know about neutralizing. However, all of us here learned so much about hair care by being part of this community. We might think certain things are common sense, like neutralizing after either the relaxer or conditioner. I guess I can't assume everyone knows to neutralize . . . although she'd been relaxing since she was 12.
Very strange indeed, is all I'm saying.
bald lady said:What do you mean “the same as usual.” Can you be a little more specific?
I used the relaxer the same way everybody does. I added it to my roots, close to my scalp to make it as straight as possible, from roots to ends. Then I wanted to let it sit for a couple of minutes like the directions said. According to the box I could have left it on for 13 to 18 minutes but it started to burn immediately. I thought the relaxer wouldn’t straighten my hair if I rinsed it out instantly so I left it on for 4 minutes. After that I could not take it anymore and rinsed it out.
weaveitup said:btw...s-curl is lye and it comes in a box kit
Neen said:After looking at that girls head, L'oreal would have to pay me at least $25 mil. That's insane. It sounds like she got a bad relaxer because it shouldn't burn as soon as you put it on. I don't know that a neutralizer would have saved her hair since it appears her scalp was the most damaged. I assumed that since her hair took 2 months to fall out but her scalp looks like someone took a torch to it . When my hair was overprocessed, It would immediately depart from me .
Kitkat said:I feel really sorry that she lost her hair. However, something doesn't make sense to me.
Okay, she says that her hair loss was caused by sodium hydroxide, which is found in lye relaxers, and because the box didn't contain neutralizing shampoo. But as we know, lye relaxers don't come in "kits." Only no-lye relaxers are packaged this way. You have to buy everything separately for lye relaxers - the relaxer, activating liquid, conditioner, neutralizer, etc.
Perhaps the reporter made a mistake, but something's not right. In any event, if she'd been relaxing since she was 12, I'd imagine she should know about neutralizing. However, all of us here learned so much about hair care by being part of this community. We might think certain things are common sense, like neutralizing after either the relaxer or conditioner. I guess I can't assume everyone knows to neutralize . . . although she'd been relaxing since she was 12.
Very strange indeed, is all I'm saying.
Koffie said:OT, But the episode was from Martin, when Gina had to work for Shananay at her salon so she could get basketball tickets for Martin. But yeah, she left out the Neutralizer, and every body tried to tell the woman that it looked good on her like Shanaid O'Conor.
That woman is from the Netherlands, believe me ladies, I have had my hair done in the UK and what Kizzylonghair says is true -- getting your hair done in Europe, in my experience, has been a world of difference from getting your hair done in the States. One stylist was still using tongs and was rough with my hair and sold me a leave in conditioner by this company called Arteffex -- wow talk about cheap stuff. It was basically water with a little bit of panthenol.GodMadeMePretty said:Before you posted this, I thought the story was a bit fishy. I mean, who doesn't know to neutralize. But you're from a "euro" country and from what you're saying, it is a common practice not to neutralize? I really do wonder what the directions in her kit said. That would be the clincher for evidence at the trial. Is 50 euros how much the relaxer cost? "Oh, it didn't work out for you? How about we give you your money back?" Sheesh!
AMEN! Say it again sister!pookeylou said:AFS...your point is coming in loud and clear.
Being a former relaxer user myself, I remember the days of leaving the relaxer on even though the burning sensation was making me cry.
But I thought "that's what black girls do for bad nappy hair...and you cannot go out with nappy hair!"
There, but for the grace of God go I. What if I had gotten an old relaxer or one where the manufacture added to much chemical? What if I didnt mix it properly myself? What if the "professional" mixed it wrong or I was too intimidated to tell them that the relaxer was burning? I willingly took those risk...because that is what I needed to do to be pretty.
Anyone who knowingly takes vitamins to the point that they cause toxicity in their own bodies because they did not know that too much vitamin B, E or C can cause diarrhea or something worse...is willingly risking their health.
Anyone who knowingly uses Surge (or Rosemary Hair spritz, or Wild Growth whatever) and their skin is peeling and burning...is willingly risking their health.
Anyone who knowiingly braids their hair so tight that they now have traction alopecia...is wilingly risking thier health.
When we willingly risk our health for a perception of beauty...we take a risk of doing irrepairable damage.
My heart goes out to her. There is no greater pain, than pain you caused to yourself.
If she bought this in Europe, it might be different. You would be surprised, I personally have found that they can be almost 10 years behind us as far as healthcare in some places. Think about it, how many black people, and thus, black hairdressers are there in the Netherlands? I have been there and I kid you not, I did not see that many black people there,AFashionSlave said:Off topic:
You are very observant. I have not seen a lye relaxer kit in a very long time, but they did used to make them. I used them in the 90's. I'm not sure about Optimum but, Revlon Realistic had a lye relaxer in 3 formulas mild, regular and super. The box used to be white with red lettering. I used it because back then I was not a fan of no-lye relaxers, and it was the only relaxer that I could find easily. Wal-Mart even carried it.
I wonder when she had this perm done? How many years has she been bald?
AFashionSlave said:If you come across the tape tell me what it says.
I thought it was Grace Jones.
ximenia said:I think carson/loreal should get their butts sued off for this. I read that even the manufacturers of relaxers are fully aware that they are the most caustic styling agent on the market. They sell us this stuff knowing how dangerous it is, how it eats away at our hair, makes it dry and brittle, damages the scalp, kills the follicles. That's why black girls don't have any hair as it is and are running around at 10 with weaves because they momma been relaxing their hair since 5 and it's all short and broken off. To say that carson isn't responsible is like saying its ok for cigarette companies to withold information regarding the dangers of smoking. It is illegal to withold information about potential dangers from the consumer, that's why the cigarette companies lost their lawsuits. Carson knows full well that neutralizers are needed. If their instructions did not state to use a neutralizer, they are 100% responsible for what happened to this woman. Let's quit blaming the victim here and hold these companies responsible.They don't market chemicals this dangerous to white girls. That's why they still have hair and we don't.
tryn2growmyhair said:They are lucky this did not happen to me because I would have immediately embarked on a nationwide -- no worldwide -- campaign. They would have wished that they had paid me millions at the end, because I would have cost them millions in bad publicity, LOL!
ximenia said:I think carson/loreal should get their butts sued off for this. I read that even the manufacturers of relaxers are fully aware that they are the most caustic styling agent on the market. They sell us this stuff knowing how dangerous it is, how it eats away at our hair, makes it dry and brittle, damages the scalp, kills the follicles. That's why black girls don't have any hair as it is and are running around at 10 with weaves because they momma been relaxing their hair since 5 and it's all short and broken off. To say that carson isn't responsible is like saying its ok for cigarette companies to withold information regarding the dangers of smoking. It is illegal to withold information about potential dangers from the consumer, that's why the cigarette companies lost their lawsuits. Carson knows full well that neutralizers are needed. If their instructions did not state to use a neutralizer, they are 100% responsible for what happened to this woman. Let's quit blaming the victim here and hold these companies responsible.They don't market chemicals this dangerous to white girls. That's why they still have hair and we don't.